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[Q] Upgrading to lollipop / unlocked / rooted /xposed working /deodexed

Since lollipop is out now for the z1 compact there are a lot of threads about upgrading, rooting, xposed working - not working.
Just as many of you I'm running on kitkat / unlocked / rooted and I make use of xposed modules.
I've been looking through some of those threads but once you think you know the way to go there will be somebody else experiencing problems with that specific method.
I'm looking for a broader perspective.
Just as there are threads about how to upgrade there are also a lot of bugs mentioned but not everybody seems to be impacted by them.
And there are of course the custom roms, some kitkat based some lollipop based.
Before switching to the xperia I used a HTC One and there was a custom rom developer who would stick to the options foreseen in the original one but he changed the code for speed and reliability, it was also based on a aroma installer that gave the choice to leave some bloatware out at installation time.
This is something I would like to see happening for the z1c, not just adding new features but streamlining the existing rom.
As of now I'm running on the xzdualrecovery on a rooted and unlocked kitkat and I'm using some xposed modues.
I consider upgrading if I knew more about the bugs, will I be impacted and I'm looking for a complete guide on how to.
As far as I know the Italian customized rom is the one with the least bloatware in it, so that is he one I'd like to use as a start
Some people already have reported zip files you can flash from recovery and they seem to be pre-rooted. Do I need to use one of them or is it possible to
flash a rom
unlock or do I need the unlocked bootloader from the beginning?
root it
make sure xposed runs, xposed seems to need deodexed roms, are they available?
So I like to see a plan on how to
Unlock
root
upgrade
make xposed running
have a correct bootloader
and have a recovery (xzdualrecovery or something else)
I know this is a list of questions but such a guide would help a lot of people like me, I'm not a complete newbie but I'm neither a rom developer so I like a guide on how to accomplish things.
If the stock rom is bugfree and stable enough that's the one I'd stick to, otherwise I need to have a look at custom roms and then I think I need to consult the custom rom developer on how to install his/her custom rom.
All the above mentioned questions will be related to installing / unlocking / rooting a stock rom.

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bumjrah said:
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At least I have one guide
http://techbeasts.com/2015/04/20/root-xperia-z1-compact-d5503-14-5-a-0-242-5-0-2-firmware-plus-recovery/
This seems enough for unlocking and rooting, don't know about xposed, they don't mention it.
Even then they talk about how to unlock your bootloader.
I've done it this way in the past but I'm unsure if the bootloader for KK is the same as for Lollipop, I have no idea if this is changed. There is a thread about an unlocked bootloader, I'll ask over there if they know about differences between LP and KK, if there are none then we have guide explaining all the steps

I do not have any info yet on the bootloader but I do have some more news on Xposed.
It's not only the Xperia that's having problems with xposed on lollipop, other phones are impacted as well.
Once a certain number of apps is installed the bootlooping starts.
Xposed seems to open too many files at boot time.
A solution is to find out how many apps may be installed on your phone before it gets into a bootloop.
Another (and better) solution is to increase the upper limit of open files at boot time, but this is only available on an unlocked bootlader since it requires a modified kernel to be installed.
A lot of posts can be found at Xposed for lollipop.
Since xposed is still in an alpha phase I think rovo89 will fix this in a future release of xposed.
If you want to fix this right now you can have a look at this thread
The post about the changed kernel is this one

I am on stock RU version, heard it was the best I have also had some bootloop experiences with xposed. Some guys have reported success but their method requires a "bloatware" script that removes ****load of useful apps. Bleh!
Right now it's just wait and see. I miss xposed but am also really enjoying this lollipop update, the performance (too soon?) looks better than the custom roms available. IMO

Discussion, Benifits of rooting and available tweaks?

Hi guys, I wanted to start a discussion on the benefits of rooting and any available tweaks/mods/apps people are using. Thanks

daveyp187 said:
Hi guys, I wanted to start a discussion on the benefits of rooting and any available tweaks/mods/apps people are using. Thanks
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For me at least until my SW3 updates to Android 6 I see very little point in rooting my SW3... And as yet other than twrp and Kernel I don't feel there are enough mods etc or even Custom roms(if any) to even bother with rooting... On a phone there are huge benifits but a watch that relies on your phone for most everything I see no advantages yet...

I know what you mean, side loading apps is cool, and being able to change the DPI. Firefox and Google keyboard works well, cm cleaner works perfectly and helps uninstalling apps and es file manager is good for installing apps

Be honest. Do you really need a reason beside "it can be done"?

No lol, but I want tweaks

[NUMINIT] said:
Be honest. Do you really need a reason beside "it can be done"?
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LOL I guess not. Andhopefull we will get Marshmallow soon and then will have a proper play!

Hopefully, it's been seen in the wild. Just need them to pull their fingers out.

So, while I agree that waiting to root until after 1.4 might be a good idea, here is what I did with root...
Direct wifi access with apps (mostly es File Explorer for on watch app install and uninstall)
Kernel experimenting and tweaking
Uninstall wear apps but keep host apps on phone
All done without a computer (after initial install and setup)
Run most terminal commands with a single tap (like changing dpi)
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currently i am running ubuntu in a chrooted environment on my watch (rooted device needed)

Link?

if this question was dedicated to me, my answer is:
I read posts about android and chrootet linux distros and used a similar technique to do this with my smartwatch 3. As soon as I am allowed to post a DEV-THREAD I will probably make a quick tutorial about it.

Looking forward to it. Not something I've looked at

Xposed

Hey Guys,
Thank you for any help you may provide in advance, and please know I did a proper search before posting this.
I am currently using Malaysk firmware (April release) and have I am very happy with such a dev.
However there is one thing I would like to do; I would like to completely remove the Xposed framework and any trace remaining of it. (I already uninstalled the framework using the app)
This is due to the fact that the current app of my tv provider gets blocked when it discovers this and I would love to have this functionality back.
Could someone point me in the right direction on this topic?
Thx Again,
Gtrz Ecniv

Did it work before on an older version of Malaysk ROM? There are xposed apps that can prevent apps from seeing a modified system like Root Cloak there was one that you could type in specific modifications not sure the name though. Does a rooted device have a conflict with your app? there are apps that disable certain features or all if root is detected. I'm not sure where Xposed is located on the storage but a simple search in ES File Explorer might find it for you.

Hey bsavoir22,
Thx for the input, to be honest I can`t remember if I ever had it working on a Malaysk ROM however I do know what you are talking about; The Irdetto fix. Unfortunately I have tried and tested that and it won`t work I did have it running on a rooted previous firmware though (Non-Malaysk, rooted Stock GS firmware) in combination with root cloak that`s why I`m suspecting the Xposed framework.
That`s why I am interested in trying to remove the framework entirely as I love the ROMs made by Malaysk really would like all functionality back that I had on my old firmware.:good:
Grtz Ecniv

HTC One m8 hide root

Hi,
First of all I'm new here. I have recently rooted and installed Lineage OS on my HTC One m8. I have noticed that one of my apps (Adidas Confirmed) does not support rooted devices. Therefore I just tried (15 min ago) to flash SUhide on my phone. This resulted in a boot-loop and I therefore had to restore my device. Is there any other way to hide the fact that my device is rooted? As far as I know Xposed framework isn't out yet for Android 7.0 and I can't get Cydia substrate to work with root cloak. Btw I have S-off (not sure if this makes a difference to why the methods I have tried didn't work or not. Just wanted to mention)
Thanks in advance!

Use Rootcloak
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.devadvance.rootcloak2
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princepavs said:
Use Rootcloak
There is version for nougat too google it too
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.devadvance.rootcloak2
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There's no Xposed Framework for Nougat. Maybe he can try to use Magisk. Magisk has option to hide the root.

mefistoreyon said:
There's no Xposed Framework for Nougat. Maybe he can try to use Magisk. Magisk has option to hide the root.
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Thanks! I'll try it out. Btw I can see you have S-off. Should I do that too for my m8?

BeastyUmbrella said:
Thanks! I'll try it out. Btw I can see you have S-off. Should I do that too for my m8?
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No, you don't need to. S-OFF is giving you more permissions, like to flash h/k mod on sense rom or to flash firmware easily.

mefistoreyon said:
No, you don't need to. S-OFF is giving you more permissions, like to flash h/k mod on sense rom or to flash firmware easily.
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Thanks! The Magisk manager worked

BeastyUmbrella said:
Hi,
First of all I'm new here. I have recently rooted and installed Lineage OS on my HTC One m8. I have noticed that one of my apps (Adidas Confirmed) does not support rooted devices. Therefore I just tried (15 min ago) to flash SUhide on my phone. This resulted in a boot-loop and I therefore had to restore my device. Is there any other way to hide the fact that my device is rooted? As far as I know Xposed framework isn't out yet for Android 7.0 and I can't get Cydia substrate to work with root cloak. Btw I have S-off (not sure if this makes a difference to why the methods I have tried didn't work or not. Just wanted to mention)
Thanks in advance!
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I cannot give you a definative answer concerning your ROM mut I too have a rooted HTC One (M8). Post rooting I tried various ROMs from Cyanogen mod but none of these were very up-to-date for long and Android has been quite vulnerable since most manufacturers take an expediant and cynical view when it comes to supporting non-cutting edge hardware (HTC was one of the worst) and supplying security patches. I should add I try to avoid Google and the big social media platforms because I am not prepared to trade privacy (hand over personal data) for the sake of functionality. So, I have been using Moke ROM - MK60.1 Android security patch 1 April 2017. I tried usin MK71 Nightly OTA release but found them unstable - they lost dialer and network functionality after 24 hours. This is where my comments become more relevant. I have several proprietry UK banking apps installed including FinTek ones. None of them is supposed to instal on a rooted device, not at least without saying 'rooted - no go'. Under settings, developer options root access is controlled. The options are: Disabled Apps only ADB only Apps and ADB. None of the Fintek apps function but the main legacy bank app does even though it is not supposed to. In conclusion it seems to be that the app has code capable of interrogating the phone OS and detecting rooted status. Depending on the quality of the program it may correctly determin rooted status, or not. It is highly unlikely there is any intervention available to the rooter to combat this.

nickbw said:
I cannot give you a definative answer concerning your ROM mut I too have a rooted HTC One (M8). Post rooting I tried various ROMs from Cyanogen mod but none of these were very up-to-date for long and Android has been quite vulnerable since most manufacturers take an expediant and cynical view when it comes to supporting non-cutting edge hardware (HTC was one of the worst) and supplying security patches. I should add I try to avoid Google and the big social media platforms because I am not prepared to trade privacy (hand over personal data) for the sake of functionality. So, I have been using Moke ROM - MK60.1 Android security patch 1 April 2017. I tried usin MK71 Nightly OTA release but found them unstable - they lost dialer and network functionality after 24 hours. This is where my comments become more relevant. I have several proprietry UK banking apps installed including FinTek ones. None of them is supposed to instal on a rooted device, not at least without saying 'rooted - no go'. Under settings, developer options root access is controlled. The options are: Disabled Apps only ADB only Apps and ADB. None of the Fintek apps function but the main legacy bank app does even though it is not supposed to. In conclusion it seems to be that the app has code capable of interrogating the phone OS and detecting rooted status. Depending on the quality of the program it may correctly determin rooted status, or not. It is highly unlikely there is any intervention available to the rooter to combat this.
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Thanks for the reply! In the meantime, I have bought a Samsung galaxy s8 and put my HTC One m8 on a shelf. However, I remember that I managed to solve the issue somehow through Magisk and their "hide root function". It may have been because of an update to the Adidas app or a Magisk update, I am not sure. Hope this was somewhat helpful

BeastyUmbrella said:
However, I remember that I managed to solve the issue somehow through Magisk and their "hide root function". It may have been because of an update to the Adidas app or a Magisk update, I am not sure. Hope this was somewhat helpful
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Magisk is indeed a solution. It's been updated to (currently) hide root successfully from Safety Net. Although Google may update it again, and break the hide function. So the cat and mouse game goes on. But so far topjohnwu is aggressively keeping Magisk updated to bypass Safety Net.
Apps may use other methods to detect root besides Safety Net. But Safety Net is probably the most common method. Magisk works for me, in hiding root from Netflix and banking apps on my current device (OnePlus 3T).
More recent versions of SuperSU also have a function to hide root (current version is 2.82). I personally haven't tried it. But reports I've read are positive.
Xposed is a no-go, as far as I know. It inherently breaks SafetyNet. So whatever means the Xposed module used before to hide root, won't work now. Again, AFAIK (haven't personally tried, and not really an xposed user).
Also note that some custom ROMs may also trip Safety Net. And if so, there is nothing the Magisk Hide and SuperSU hide function can do about that. But I think this does not apply to Lineage (hide still works).

Magisk + Xposed module trips SafetyNet

After flashing Magisk and the F2FS fix on 7.1.1, I decided to install the Magisk Xposed module. After I rebooted, Magisk reported that the phone didn't pass SafetyNet checks. Uninstalling the module allows it to pass checks again. Does anyone have any ideas?

Jesus, under which rock do you live? It was already mentioned about a million times in the Magisk thread and most likely in the Magisk release thread that it is and most likely always be impossible to pass SN with XPosed installed!
The only advantage the XPosed Magisk module had that you don't have to uninstall XPosed to pass, you only have to deactivate it and reboot. No recompilation will be necessary

GiantPlaidSquirrel said:
After flashing Magisk and the F2FS fix on 7.1.1, I decided to install the Magisk Xposed module. After I rebooted, Magisk reported that the phone didn't pass SafetyNet checks. Uninstalling the module allows it to pass checks again. Does anyone have any ideas?
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This doesn't surprise me . Did you tell magisk to hide exposed?

GiantPlaidSquirrel said:
After flashing Magisk and the F2FS fix on 7.1.1, I decided to install the Magisk Xposed module. After I rebooted, Magisk reported that the phone didn't pass SafetyNet checks. Uninstalling the module allows it to pass checks again. Does anyone have any ideas?
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Safetynet won't pass with Xposed installed, live with it or uninstall Xposed )

Artim_96 said:
Jesus, under which rock do you live? It was already mentioned about a million times in the Magisk thread and most likely in the Magisk release thread that it is and most likely always be impossible to pass SN with XPosed installed!
The only advantage the XPosed Magisk module had that you don't have to uninstall XPosed to pass, you only have to deactivate it and reboot. No recompilation will be necessary
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I don't know how you get 500 thanks for responses like that.

You are supposed to read and search for yourself before you open a new thread. It's written in the Magisk release thread. If you are not able to do what you are required by forum rules to do don't be surprised you don't get the friendliest answers

Artim_96 said:
You are supposed to read and search for yourself before you open a new thread. It's written in the Magisk release thread. If you are not able to do what you are required by forum rules to do don't be surprised you don't get the friendliest answers
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This is the most moronic and counter-productive attitude I can see on any forum. I will give you arguments for that:
- yes, indeed, someone added in ONE Place a clear information about something (speaking generally, because it can apply on any forum)
- one user, most probably new, comes and ask the question for which the answer lies in that above mentioned place. It may seem obvious for some, but for that new user it wasn't.
- a mob gathers and flays that user because of his laziness and ignorance. Moreover, posts accumulate, filling pages, trying to condemn the poor user.
What the above solves, beside attacking one person who tried to solve a problem? Nothing.
Now, let's see a different scenario:
- user asks the obvious question (let's assume the worst: he's a lazy user who wants his answers ready and won't do a damn search)
- he gets the response AND a link where he could find the original answer... and if you really feel the need, you can mention it that next time he could do a quick search first
Let's see the benefits of this attitude:
1. now the answers can be found in several places (plus referral links)
2. this means the next one who will search for the answer is more likely to find it, due to more results being indexed by search engines
3. no one gets their feelings hurt
4. fewer posts in the thread (as instead of many people talking around the subject, there is only one short post, pointing the answer - which also makes it constructive)
While this reply is a bit long and apparently not adding to the topic, I hope it will prove its value in long term, if some of you will decide to follow this suggestion.
G'day!

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The official Magisk thread is plastered with that question, so whatever you wanted to say with your senseless post, you missed the point.
Every user has accepted some rules when he joined this forum. Besides the fact that the Magisk thread, the Magisk XPosed thread and probably the Magisk beta thread are plastered with that question, just Google for Magisk XPosed SafetyNet. Besidesa very strange headline Google shows for a post on the xda news side with an indication Xposed for Oreo could pass, which is missing when you actually open the page (no idea what Google messed up there), every page basically tells you the same.
So there is absolutely no excuse for anyone to still post about such things. Period.