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Accessing an NTFS drive via Fire TV 4k

Hello!
Just purchased a Fire TV 4k to replace my WDTV Live and I've run in to a bit of a problem. I have successfully rooted the machine and I installed Stickmount to be able to access my NTFS-formated external hard drive but Stickmount appears to be unable to see the drive. The drive is a Seagate 4TB, powered by a separate PSU but it does not appear to turn on at all either when plugged in to the Fire TV or when trying to mount it.
Is there something silly that I am overlooking? Is there a known issue with some drives or perhaps I am just really unlucky and this one won't work? Are there alternatives to using Stickmount?
All I want to do is have a nicer looking, better performing version of the WDTV to play my media... Why must you make it so tricky Amazon?
Anyway, really appreciate your help and patience!

okay so, turns out switching off debugging via USB allowed the drive to power up but it still doesn't seem to be mountable or, perhaps, i can't see the drive's contents on kodi.
any idea where that stuff usually goes?

I only rooted two days ago. Stickmount hasn't been useful for me. Paragon exFAT, NTFS & EFS+ however has been great with my NTFS hard drives. It seems to run and do most stuff automatically, it does have a couple of options. If your drive is alive after installation this is the process to get things working in Kodi.
1) Go into KODI and select the Video menu then Files below it.
2) Select Files from the menu then Add videos. A window called Add Video source should appear.
3) Click the Browse button. Select External storage. You'll see a folder named ParagonNTFS If your drive is mounted.
4) Select or Open ParagonNTFS then click OK on the right side of the screen.
5) The Add Video source window appears, click Add. Then OK
From there it's straight forward. Kodi will ask how you have your files stored, index them and other fun things. So far with hard drives I've found that the Fire TV 2 wants them to be powered or connected to a powered USB hub.

NutterNatter said:
I only rooted two days ago. Stickmount hasn't been useful for me. Paragon exFAT, NTFS & EFS+ however has been great with my NTFS hard drives. It seems to run and do most stuff automatically, it does have a couple of options. If your drive is alive after installation this is the process to get things working in Kodi.
1) Go into KODI and select the Video menu then Files below it.
2) Select Files from the menu then Add videos. A window called Add Video source should appear.
3) Click the Browse button. Select External storage. You'll see a folder named ParagonNTFS If your drive is mounted.
4) Select or Open ParagonNTFS then click OK on the right side of the screen.
5) The Add Video source window appears, click Add. Then OK
From there it's straight forward. Kodi will ask how you have your files stored, index them and other fun things. So far with hard drives I've found that the Fire TV 2 wants them to be powered or connected to a powered USB hub.
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ah fantastic, i shall look in to this. what's the easiest way to get ParagonNTFS onto the Fire TV?

May I make a suggestion if this doesn't work out? Your router might have a USB port designed to allow a hard drive's contents to be a network share. Not only will Kodi be able to access the drive easier, every computer/Fire TV will be able to access it, too.

Sizzlechest said:
May I make a suggestion if this doesn't work out? Your router might have a USB port designed to allow a hard drive's contents to be a network share. Not only will Kodi be able to access the drive easier, every computer/Fire TV will be able to access it, too.
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unfortunately mine doesn't. i have found out that my old WDTV Live acts as a NAS server of some kind (i guess, it allows a harddrive to appear on the network anyway) so i am using that for now and able to view all my files. i will try out Paragon or otherwise buy the cheap usb-ethernet device i was linked to via Reddit.

Glad I found this thread.
Here's a Mac guide for this. It will cover formatting a drive in NTFS and the program you need on the Fire TV to mount the NTFS drive and how to make this work with Kodi.
http://marksmods.com/Hack-the-Fire-...e-Fire-TV-and-use-an-External-Hard-Drive.html
I'm loving this Fire TV more every day.

Just for hard drive?
Guys, being limited to fat32 and related file size < 4gb is the biggest issue that really sucks with ftv for me. I have some questions, as you already successfully removed this limt.
Does this way by paragon ntfs help even to mount an usb stick? Will stick be mounted as otg (as fat32 before) or do i will find it in the paragonntfs folder, same as the HDD?
What method you took for rooting?
If used kingroot, did you apply factory reset after finished , as i read of this recommendation?
Thanks and cheers

Meandi51 said:
Guys, being limited to fat32 and related file size < 4gb is the biggest issue that really sucks with ftv for me. I have some questions, as you already successfully removed this limt.
Does this way by paragon ntfs help even to mount an usb stick? Will stick be mounted as otg (as fat32 before) or do i will find it in the paragonntfs folder, same as the HDD?
What method you took for rooting?
If used kingroot, did you apply factory reset after finished , as i read of this recommendation?
Thanks and cheers
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An external drive is an external drive. I don't see why there would be any difference to paragon whether you were using a flash chip or a spinning platter to contain your data files.

Rooted today and paragon app works well with flash chip. Anyone experience with CF stickmount? What's the difference to Paragon except it needs extfat formatted drives?

Paragon ntfs su notifications
Hi,
im on the latest prerooted rom on my 2gen fire tv with Paragon ntfs intalled.
But i always get these paragon su granted notifications on screen every 5-10min, which drives me crazy
Does anybody get the same notifications?
How do i get rid of them?

Kodi saving movie to usb

I have installed Kodi on my firetv (rooted)when I tried to save a film to my usb flash drive but it would not let me also the same with sdcard.
Thanks for any help z4

Cool, bro!
*silence*
Fat32 has a filesize limit of 4GB > movie was larger > *pity* > Android 5.x doesnt mount the sdcard2 as writeable by default anymore (not sure what it does with USB media) > if you used a program that cant pull root rights to remount the drive > *pity*.
(If you are looking for such a program: Total Commander (Amazon App Store).)
edit: If you are talking about moving a file to those two kinds of storage media from a PC or (have mercy) a tablet - and dont know about filesystems (fat32, ntfs, ...) or that the Fire TV devices are locked down to only be able to read fat32 by Amazon itself (there might be a workaround for rooted devices - search these forums) - thats entirely your fault.
Also at this point I would commend you for not using the words PC or the program you tried to use at all and just having clicked away the error message - because this makes our part of the question/answer game - so much easier.
Short answer for dudebros: Buy a NAS, or a router with an USB port (dd-wrt compatible ones cost 10-30 USD used) if the 4GB filesizelimt of fat32 is the problem - or wait until someone cares to tell you if there is a root solution to mounting different filesystems on a rooted Fire TV. Also if you have a Fire TV 2 and just have dropped the 2, because - why not - theres currently no such solution that has been publicly explored. Maybe tomorrow. But If there is not - *shrug* (Most of us (probably) use NAS boxes or network shares, you (probably) dont.)

I am a newbie with the fire tv so there is a lot I dont understand all I wanted to do was save a avi file from Genesis in Kodi to a usb flash drive.
z4

zephyr4 said:
I am a newbie with the fire tv so there is a lot I dont understand all I wanted to do was save a avi file from Genesis in Kodi to a usb flash drive.
z4
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Just like on the official kodi forums you won't get here any support for piracy add-ons.
https://kodi.tv/the-piracy-box-sellers-and-youtube-promoters-are-killing-kodi/
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Ok sorry, I never thought about that.

Banging my head--WHY is AFTV automatically moving data?

I'm really confused so I'll try to provide details I can recall...
My AFTV gen 1 with OS5 kodi install was a little glitchy so eventually wound up doing a clean install.
This came AFTER MANY attempts to preserve my data.
The last 2 times I tried this I completely wiped every bit of kodi data I had on internal and USB. I installed kodi Jarvis.
The 1st time I scanned sources and it populated fine. But when I exit kodi then relaunch it I'm greeted with what looks like a blank install!
To sum up, it appears like when I exit Kodi it sends Kodi data to my usb BUT there are no settings in place to actually read that data so Kodi is blank.
Last time I made certain to remove everything. Then I took my sources.xml from my other aftv (same setup) and moved it to the problem aftv. I start up kodi, all seems fine--my movies and TV shows are there. I exit and POOF! Its gone again. If I delete my kodi data from usb drive Kodi works again but when I exit it repeats the cycle.
I'm stumped. Any help is appreciated. Thanks
***I think the issue would be resolved if someone could just tell me why data keeps exporting to my usb drive. I keep deleting it but Kodi winds up back on my usb once I exit.

http://kodi.wiki/view/HOW-TO:Change_data_location_for_Android
This took 5 seconds on google.
Backing up Kodi is as simple as copying over the userdata folder, btw. If you don't know how to copy files, learn to use adb and get to know the filestructure of kodi a bit better using a file explorer on the Fire TV. Or just use a File explorer and copy the userdata folder to a networkdrive (Total commandar f.e. has a lan plugin), or a usb stick, or... If you don't know what a folder is... Try to learn that as well...

harlekinwashere said:
http://kodi.wiki/view/HOW-TO:Change_data_location_for_Android
This took 5 seconds on google.
Backing up Kodi is as simple as copying over the userdata folder, btw. If you don't know how to copy files, learn to use adb and get to know the filestructure of kodi a bit better using a file explorer on the Fire TV. Or just use a File explorer and copy the userdata folder to a networkdrive (Total commandar f.e. has a lan plugin), or a usb stick, or... If you don't know what a folder is... Try to learn that as well...
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I appreciate the help but Ive been using Kodi since Frodo and aftv gen 1 since June 2014. Ive been through numerous kodi versions and never has the aftv just defaulted to moving all the data to usb...
In fact Im pretty sure it doesn't because theres methods available specifically for aftv to properly move data to usb.
I have to take a closer look at my other aftv. Its running the same kodi version.
***Btw my bandaid was to remove my usb stick and copy sources.xml from my other aftv. It works fine but of course not having external storage isnt a good option.

Rooted Fire TV 1 apps not showing up in Manage Applications

I have a rooted Fire TV 1 with rbox 5.2.1.1 rom installed (no I don't think this issue is related to the rom) I have a hard drive attached to the Fire TV and have Kodi moved to the hard drive to save space. The weird problem I'm having is that almost none of the apps I have installed on the Fire TV are showing in the Manage Applications section of settings. Even though the apps are installed and I can open them their not showing up in Manage Applications. I am using FolderMount to move game data to the hard drive, but not sure if that is affecting other apps that have not been moved. Has anyone else seen this before. I tried searching the forum for something related to my problem but couldn't find anything so started a new thread. I don't want to do a Factory Reset because I have the Fire TV setup just the way I want it.
appreciate any help on this.

dk1keith said:
I have a rooted Fire TV 1 with rbox 5.2.1.1 rom installed (no I don't think this issue is related to the rom) I have a hard drive attached to the Fire TV and have Kodi moved to the hard drive to save space. The weird problem I'm having is that almost none of the apps I have installed on the Fire TV are showing in the Manage Applications section of settings. Even though the apps are installed and I can open them their not showing up in Manage Applications. I am using FolderMount to move game data to the hard drive, but not sure if that is affecting other apps that have not been moved. Has anyone else seen this before. I tried searching the forum for something related to my problem but couldn't find anything so started a new thread. I don't want to do a Factory Reset because I have the Fire TV setup just the way I want it.
appreciate any help on this.
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I think i found what is causing applications not to show up in Manage Installed Applications in Fire TV 1 settings. When Xposed is enabled the applications are missing or greyed out. When I disable Xposed Framework the apps show up in Manage Installed Applications. Anyone have an idea how to fix that. I really need to keep Xposed enabled to use the Google Play Store.
thanks.

dk1keith said:
I think i found what is causing applications not to show up in Manage Installed Applications in Fire TV 1 settings. When Xposed is enabled the applications are missing or greyed out. When I disable Xposed Framework the apps show up in Manage Installed Applications. Anyone have an idea how to fix that. I really need to keep Xposed enabled to use the Google Play Store.
thanks.
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Found the culprit. Xinstaller Module breaks something in the Manage Installed Applications settings.

Moving apps to USB storage and Official Updates, best way to do it?

Hi everyone,
On my 4k firestick and my firetv 3rd gen (dongle) I’m using an otg cable, and an external usb drive formatted using ADB partition command. In order to move the apps from the internal to external storage I either use de ADB move command or the MiXplorer, the downside on using the MiXplorer is that you have to copy the app to the downloader folder, uninstall it and then reinstall it from the folder and it goes straight to the usb partition, but this method looses al the login info, not a major drawback but nerveless a nuisance.
When it comes to update the apps from amazon’s official appstore we run in to an error if the app is located in the external drive, so the solution is either move it back to the internal storage, update it and move it back either by uninstalling it and downloading it again from the Appstore, moving with ADB command, or using the downloader app to find the newest version and install it over the old one, although this last method works it is prone to errors due to choosing the wrong apk version listed on those alternative sources (apkmirror and others).
So, my question is if there is an app with a graphic interface like MiXplorere that allows to move the apps to and from the USB storage in a similar way as the ADB command line? Is there a different method that I’m missing?
Thanks in advance,
London

london18 said:
Hi everyone,
On my 4k firestick and my firetv 3rd gen (dongle) I’m using an otg cable, and an external usb drive formatted using ADB partition command. In order to move the apps from the internal to external storage I either use de ADB move command or the MiXplorer, the downside on using the MiXplorer is that you have to copy the app to the downloader folder, uninstall it and then reinstall it from the folder and it goes straight to the usb partition, but this method looses al the login info, not a major drawback but nerveless a nuisance.
When it comes to update the apps from amazon’s official appstore we run in to an error if the app is located in the external drive, so the solution is either move it back to the internal storage, update it and move it back either by uninstalling it and downloading it again from the Appstore, moving with ADB command, or using the downloader app to find the newest version and install it over the old one, although this last method works it is prone to errors due to choosing the wrong apk version listed on those alternative sources (apkmirror and others).
So, my question is if there is an app with a graphic interface like MiXplorere that allows to move the apps to and from the USB storage in a similar way as the ADB command line? Is there a different method that I’m missing?
Thanks in advance,
London
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Hey,
Not sure if you've tried apps2sd Pro?
To use this this app you will have to set partitions on the extsdcard USB first.
If I remember correctly one partition is made ext4 and one FAT32.
The ext4 partition becomes apps adopted storage when mounted and the FAT32 partition becomes normal storage for downloads etc.
Hope this helps
Regards

Unfortunately, Apps2sd Pro only works in rooted devices, not the case here.
Any how thanks for the suggestion, let's if there is some other solution in this line.
Cheers,
London

london18 said:
Unfortunately, Apps2sd Pro only works in rooted devices, not the case here.
Any how thanks for the suggestion, let's if there is some other solution in this line.
Cheers,
London
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Hi,
Apologies I guess I just assumed you were rooted as most on here use rooted devices.
The only other (known) way is described here :
How To Increase Storage On Firestick & Fire TV in 2022
This post will explain how to Increase Storage on Firestick & Fire TVs. The Amazon Firestick is the most popular streaming device available on the
troypoint.com
Apart from that I know of no other way to use adopted storage on fireos without root.
Regards

Bertonumber1 said:
Hi,
Apologies I guess I just assumed you were rooted as most on here use rooted devices.
The only other (known) way is described here :
How To Increase Storage On Firestick & Fire TV in 2022
This post will explain how to Increase Storage on Firestick & Fire TVs. The Amazon Firestick is the most popular streaming device available on the
troypoint.com
Apart from that I know of no other way to use adopted storage on fireos without root.
Regards
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This is basically the procedure that I used to format the USB drive, but to move the apps he suggests to use ES file explorer, that was banned due to security concerns, so I was looking for an alternative...
Thanks again for the patience and attention.
London