[Q] Easily Scratchable Back - Xperia Z1 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Is it true that the rear of the phone is easily Scratchable ?
Is the rear in the Z3 Compact is much more better because it is glass ?
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AK2H said:
Is it true that the rear of the phone is easily Scratchable ?
Is the rear in the Z3 Compact is much more better because it is glass ?
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yes it is true. my z1c's back looks like i dragged it through a marathon even though i rarely put it on tables or other surfaces other than my hand/pockets. z3c should be a lot harder to scratch since it's glass. though z1c is a lot tougher to break as proven in drop tests and impact tests.

yes
i can confirm too.
daily use scratches the back way more than the front.

Yeah these scratches are sick. Got the phone for like 2 weeks and it has few scratches on front and back.

yep, that why i use screen guard both fron and back.
sony really went full retard with this thing.

i bought a custom skin for the back from amazon for $15. it looks really good and the fit is excellent. you should get one. i also purchased a tempered glass for the front from nillkin.

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No case, no screen protector..but

I am one of those who likes the phone as is.
Why cover/thicken it up? And gorilla glass sure as heck shouldn't need protection as it only reduces the sensitivity and usefulness - why buy a touch screen if you don't want to touch it in the first place.
BUT
2 days on the TGV's across France and Switzerland and boy was I cursing; the bloody phone slid everywhere ... so it made me think.
Got home and stuck 2 of those clear rubber/plastic kitchen cupboard door dome bumpers (Magnet for those in the UK) on the corners by the camera, and voila you have a non-slide phone and protects the lens at the same time.
Works for me, also helps the grip as your fingers go between the domes.
Each to their own. Hope its helps some.
major c said:
I am one of those who likes the phone as is.
Why cover/thicken it up? And gorilla glass sure as heck shouldn't need protection as it only reduces the sensitivity and usefulness - why buy a touch screen if you don't want to touch it in the first place.
BUT
2 days on the TGV's across France and Switzerland and boy was I cursing; the bloody phone slid everywhere ... so it made me think.
Got home and stuck 2 of those clear rubber/plastic kitchen cupboard door dome bumpers (Magnet for those in the UK) on the corners by the camera, and voila you have a non-slide phone and protects the lens at the same time.
Works for me, also helps the grip as your fingers go between the domes.
Each to their own. Hope its helps some.
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I also hate casing, but... I hate scratches and dents more.
I've found mine is getting scratched on the 'bump' below the samsung logo. Stupid bit of design that put the most scratchable plastic on the entire phone on the only surface that touches the table.
I like mine au naturel too but it looks like we've no choice but to use a skin or case if you don't like scratches.
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That "bump" actually stops the camera lens from getting scratched when place on a flat surface.. dunno why they didnt recess the lens though... or better still stick a lens cover on it!!
Im a case fan personally, yeah I love the look of the phone, but I want it to stay that way.. so Ill wrap it up! makes for good resale value near end of contract!
I stuck a strip of clear sellotape across the hump, prevents scratches until something better pops up
The sellotape works wonders!
I don't care scratches but the reason why I use case is the camera lens because it can be easily scratched and will take worst photo
.:SiLvErHuNk:.
I have a case an cheap one i bought on eBay and it works fine but ive ordered another one and am going to buy a screen protector - SGP Ultra Oleophobic Film which appears to be the best available, when you've spent €450 on a phone the last thing you want is for it to be scratched
major c said:
Why cover/thicken it up? And gorilla glass sure as heck shouldn't need protection as it only reduces the sensitivity and usefulness - why buy a touch screen if you don't want to touch it in the first place.
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Holy cow. Who said Gorilla Glass won't scratch? Jeez. Of course a good screen protector is recommended and also a good case which will protect the device if it drops accidentally.
Regards.
I have got a visible scratch right between the camera lens and the flash....missed both of them...Phew!!!...
so now I have a case always fitted, SP and also a cut out SP for the lens...

[Q] Removable plastic protector on the backside?

On the other Xperia Z devises I've had the fabric mounted shatterproof plastic were easy to remove on both the front andoor back. Good since they get scratched really fast.
On my compact it just doesn't seem to be any plastic to peel off. Anyone know about this?
Cfager said:
On the other Xperia Z devises I've had the fabric mounted shatterproof plastic were easy to remove on both the front andoor back. Good since they get scratched really fast.
On my compact it just doesn't seem to be any plastic to peel off. Anyone know about this?
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There is no ASF in the back of compact. Additionally some people report the back is easily scratched
trewelu said:
There is no ASF in the back of compact. Additionally some people report the back is easily scratched
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Shoot. I wish I would have known this sooner. The back of my phone has a few scratches but I didn't worry about it because I thought it was the asf. I think I might try to replace the back with the glass panel.
filthyfnj24 said:
Shoot. I wish I would have known this sooner. The back of my phone has a few scratches but I didn't worry about it because I thought it was the asf. I think I might try to replace the back with the glass panel.
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I have the same thought as you, and right now mine is heavily scratch. I think I just install the TG on the back panel since replace it with a glass one is so damn complicated.
filthyfnj24 said:
Shoot. I wish I would have known this sooner. The back of my phone has a few scratches but I didn't worry about it because I thought it was the asf. I think I might try to replace the back with the glass panel.
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Z1 f back cover is a glass panel with an asf, which is compatible with Z1 compact.
ASF can keep scratches away from the back cover but it can't anti scratches itself. So you'd better put a back protector flim if you don't like the scratches.
I found the other thread talking about the Xperia Z1 compact back cover and Xperia Z1f back cover. You can know more about their different from that.

Glass rear camera

I'm using moto z play two weeks, and I see some scratches on the rear camera, the glass is que has no protection (gorilla glass) ?? somebody else with this problem ??
Andreyyrafa said:
I'm using moto z play two weeks, and I see some scratches on the rear camera, the glass is que has no protection (gorilla glass) ?? somebody else with this problem ??
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Mine shipped with a scratch in the AR coating on it! It may be good glass (I dunno) but it looks like the AR coating is very weak. Small recessed glass's don't have to worry about having a durable AR coatings but the huge one on the Z's looks like it going to be an issue for all of them.
Sent it back and already got another one. Spent a few min last night trying to cut down an old screen protector to fit but due to the flash being in the same circle - it causes major blow out when it lights so it needs to be much smaller and the edge needs to be blacked out.
OrBy said:
Mine shipped with a scratch in the AR coating on it! It may be good glass (I dunno) but it looks like the AR coating is very weak. Small recessed glass's don't have to worry about having a durable AR coatings but the huge one on the Z's looks like it going to be an issue for all of them.
Sent it back and already got another one. Spent a few min last night trying to cut down an old screen protector to fit but due to the flash being in the same circle - it causes major blow out when it lights so it needs to be much smaller and the edge needs to be blacked out.
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You can protect the camera lens with some "cool" skins, like:
https://dbrand.com/shop/moto-z-skins
or
https://www.slickwraps.com/devices/phones/android/moto-z.html
mine has some lines too, I will get some pulish and after that a skin will help for good
hope it helps
Same here with Moto Z but this is a problem with all Moto devices all moto phones of this year scratch incredibly easy, ALL PHONES, from G4 Play up to Moto Z Force, I don't want to imagine how they will look the lens cameras in a couple of months later... terrible Motorola/Lenovo...
So far the only scratch I have is a small scratch on the top aluminum edge. No scratches on any of the glass. My dbrand skin should be coming some time this week. Black carbon back and white carbon camera.
can the camera glass be replaced?
Mine has some scratches and now that I saw that I'm not alone I knoe that is not my fault. It doesn't hurt the Picture quality but is really annoying
I set my Moto z play on the table and glass cracked can I get it replaced?
Protect from further scratches:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...250-indian-t3620612/post72639865#post72639865

Scratches around screen surround

Looks like there is a plastic strip around the screen before the aluminium bezel as mine after just 2 days with a case has fine scratches already be careful peeps will annoy some.
r8dooo said:
Looks like there is a plastic strip around the screen before the aluminium bezel as mine after just 2 days with a case has fine scratches already be careful peeps will annoy some.
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I was supposed to create a thread regarding this but yes, I can confirm my P20 got scratched on the plastic strip surrounding the the screen as well!!! It is annoying!! why the heck did they use glossy plastic instead of the matte (like on the iPhone X)!!!! Mine actually was covered with case since day 1 but the friction on the case caused this!
SO.... ANYTHING THE TOUCHES THE PLASTIC WILL CAUSE IT TO GET SCRATCHED. PERIOD. Screw Huawei!
I just noticed that, the plastic is pretty thick, about 1mm, and I though it was a curve glass that run right down to the metal, also do note the metal around the back camera is also very easy to get scratched.
ijuanp03 said:
I was supposed to create a thread regarding this but yes, I can confirm my P20 got scratched on the plastic strip surrounding the the screen as well!!! It is annoying!! why the heck did they use glossy plastic instead of the matte (like on the iPhone X)!!!! Mine actually was covered with case since day 1 but the friction on the case caused this!
SO.... ANYTHING THE TOUCHES THE PLASTIC WILL CAUSE IT TO GET SCRATCHED. PERIOD. Screw Huawei!
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I have issue with p20 after a week use with fulltime case on. Very poor quality build.
oh well, I just have to live with the scratches. I'm just pissed that Huawei overlooked this issue when they did their QA.
Same here. Very bad quality. Shame on you, Huawei.
I have the issue of the back panel getting really scratched uo even with a case on permanently
Yep. I got the same issue. Damn it. I've been carefull with the phone all the time. It is perfect except that area u mentioned.
that's just stupid for a 700 USD phone.
Can anyone share a screenshot of these scratches you guys are talking about? I've had mine for about 3 weeks now (factory case+screen protector on) and don't see these scratches.
Some pics
any fix for this? at least to make the scratches less visible? damn piss me off.
I got Huawei P20 Pro and after 5 min of use it already has scratches on back glass. Sony XPERIA XZ2 Premium after a month without any case still doesn't have scratches on back glass. Bad quality for this price. Very disapointed. **** quality.
come on guys, it cant be that bad. I saw a ton of 2nd hand p20s and none of them had those scratches.. I had p9, p10, mate 9 .. and never had any issues. I am planing to buy regular p20, but you are getting me worried
I don't have any scratches... What are you doing with these phones??!! Scratches cannot comes by itself
I can confirm the same issue. I dont know why they decided to use plastic. I owned m2 m3 and now i own mediapad m5 and they all are with metal body with no signs of scratches in normal use. I'm too quite disappointed. Its weird build quality to be worse than their tablets for such high price. Otherwise i like the phone very much. The back is quite sensitive to scratches. I have one already even I've never use it without case. But it's very cool and beautiful with glass back. Can someone with mate 10 pro can confirm if the build quality is better or the same.
I think the P10 has the same "flaw" but I never had any issues with it.
edit: I bought a new p20, used the huawei case that comes in the box from the day 1..and yes.. I can already (after a week or so) see some scratches around the screen. nothing major though.. you have to go outside and keep tilting the phone from one side to another to be able to notice it.
I think they're factory scratched
Hello! Im from Chile, I have this phone since a couple of weeks now and yes, I can confirm that it has this exact same issue.
I'm a maniac when it comes to phone care, I've been using mine with the silicone case included since day 1, in fact I still haven't removed the back protective film, I think those scratches appear because of the friction caused when you put on the case and take it off a couple of times. The other day, I had to swap SIM cards a couple of times and noticed those ugly scratches, thought it was dirty but nope, it's a bummer for a premium flagship device, bad idea to use black, glossy and cheap plastic on the bezel.
Well... I guess we will have to live with it, because changing the whole LCD panel is not cheap nor easy, it's not worth the hassle.

Samsung G20 S is an amazing phone and more delicate than eggs

I decided to switch carriers and try a new smart phone and went with Tmobile and a Galaxy 20S. I was surprised on how slim and light the phone is upon picking it up. The retail store did not have any cases I liked so I ordered a case off Amazon and decided to not take my phone out of the house until I had a case for it. Well......
I had my phone for about 4 days using it in the house. My phone was sitting on the arm rest of my couch and slid off , dropped and landed on the laminate floor. A fall of less than 20". The rear glass cover is cracked on opposite corner edges.
My phone and camera work fine but I am simply amazed at how fragile the 20S is or maybe its just my 20S. I have no idea if its a factory defect and I have never seen anything like it. Its really more fragile than an egg. If the phone is this delicate it should come WITH some type of case or more durable gorilla glass. I am 57 years old and owned several brands of smart phones ( coming from an LG V30) and I have never dropped or broken a phone before in my life. Be aware my cracked 20S could be a fluke or a sign of a bigger issue. Now I need to find a place to replace mt rear cover.
The Galaxy 20 S needs a GOOD case so be advised if you have one be darn careful with it. The quality of the phone ( use) is excellent , its the durability issue that makes me concerned. If a laminate floor cracked the rear glass a drop on concrete will likely kill the phone. Pretty sad for a device that costs a grand or more.
Depends on which angle your phone falls, it is just glass. Gorilla glass is anti scratch but not anti crack.
Also the phone comes with a case, it's in the box and I will recommend you use it while waiting for the better one you ordered on Amazon to arrive.
Glass is glass and glass will break.
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vash_h said:
Depends on which angle your phone falls, it is just glass. Gorilla glass is anti scratch but not anti crack.
Also the phone comes with a case, it's in the box and I will recommend you use it while waiting for the better one you ordered on Amazon to arrive.
Glass is glass and glass will break.
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It needs a "fragile" logo embossed on it................
Rear screen and replacement from a Samsung authorized repair center is $109.17 / FYI
cal50 said:
It needs a "fragile" logo embossed on it................
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Just got to be careful of where you put and how you handle it.
I haven't dropped or broken a phone or misplaced one in 12 years.
Mainly because i see the item as $$$ and to get $$$ took me months of hard work.
It's WAY more break prone than other phones.
Watch and wait . Great phone for function and features, build durability is iffy at best,IMHO.
If you spend over a thousand dollars for a phone in this day and age a good case is mandatory. Otherwise you are just playing Russian Roulette and sooner or later it's gonna fall on the floor. I love the OtterBox cases. I had the commuter for many years for the S7 edge and Note 8. When I got the Ultra 512 gb I want with the Defender Pro and glad I did. First day I got the phone it was knocked off the kitchen table at work and landed on a concrete floor. Not even a scratch. So you can either wait for your beautiful caseless phone to shatter when you have an oooops moment or you can invest in a top quality case.
Everyone, well most of us, have heard the expression you cannot have your cake and eat it too!
This applies well to our beloved smart phones.
You can have something durable in its creaky, plasticky, feels like a piece of s4!+ design and all (Blackberry anyone?) that can be kicked, tossed, dropped, etc. Doesn't need a case at all.
Or the latest designs that are thin, glass on front and back with metal trim that feel like quality in hand with no squeaks or twists when handled. But if you drop them without a case you will regret it! Even if the glass doesn't chip or break there will be nicks/scratches in the bezel/frame that gets the best of the OCD types.
So now we have cases that are essentially mandatory to everyone that has to carry their devices around. The best cases combine looks/feel while offering adequate protection and then some are purely based on protective qualities alone that make our phones feel like bricks!
I do like thin cases like Pitaka but also will use something with a bit more protection if I'm running around outdoors or up in the air (tower/ladder/tree) etc. I used to use a rigid holster that would fit a specific case but gave up on those due to having to buy so many. And they didn't actually protect the screen as well as you'd think. I use a pouch now with a clip for belt and has a loop that my Grip6 belt can pass through making it utterly impossible to lose the pouch with phone safely inside.
The only thing I haven't figured out is how to make a case puppy teeth proof!
Irony :
Designing something for great looks and feel.
Has to be put in a case that wipes out the looks and feel.
Don't get me wrong, I do love the phone but it really is delicate. Sometimes adding thicker glass or raised impact frame is better for function and longevity.
This is the 1st smart phone I have damaged from a very minimal drop. The plus version I think has a raised camera module that takes a beating from setting it down on a flat surface. I almost selected that one for the bigger battery and glad I got the S20. The S20 will be a money maker for repair shops.
cal50 said:
Irony :
Designing something for great looks and feel.
Has to be put in a case that wipes out the looks and feel.
Don't get me wrong, I do love the phone but it really is delicate. Sometimes adding thicker glass or raised impact frame is better for function and longevity.
This is the 1st smart phone I have damaged from a very minimal drop. The plus version I think has a raised camera module that takes a beating from setting it down on a flat surface. I almost selected that one for the bigger battery and glad I got the S20. The S20 will be a money maker for repair shops.
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The Ultra has a raised camera lens too, but the silcone case im using is just right enough to make it flush so theres no problem with putting it down for me.
Damage the front glass, display or camera module and a $109 rear cover will be a bargain.
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The Ultra has a raised camera lens too, but the silcone case im using is just right enough to make it flush so theres no problem with putting it down for me.
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If it's flush, it would still come into contact with any surface you placed it on. I'm having a hell of a time finding a case that maintains a thin profile but has raised edges along the camera so that it can be recessed. In the meantime I use a little tempered glass protector back there. But it sucks cause it smudges easily and isn't as easy to clean. The search continues.
chetly968 said:
If it's flush, it would still come into contact with any surface you placed it on. I'm having a hell of a time finding a case that maintains a thin profile but has raised edges along the camera so that it can be recessed. In the meantime I use a little tempered glass protector back there. But it sucks cause it smudges easily and isn't as easy to clean. The search continues.
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The lens does not come in to contact with the surface so n like i said its good for me.
Darkat70 said:
The lens does not come in to contact with the surface so n like i said its good for me.
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Ah so it's not flush
chetly968 said:
Ah so it's not flush
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Its flush, but for example if i wet the surface with a cloth then place my phone down. The case is wet, the camera lens is dry.

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