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Verizon Tab S 8.4 - Did I purchase a Unicorn?

So, my local Non-Corporate Verizon store had a sale this weekend on the Tab S 8.4. I didn't even know this was available for Verizon. The only Tab S on the website is the 10.5 model.
So, searching the web, I have found a few sites listing this model, but not for sale anywhere.
It is SM-T707V. Looks like it has the snapdragon.
As for root or anything custom, will I be out of luck, since no one else has this model to test?
I attached a few images.
Thanks.

As for root, if their was a way to export a copy of your recover img and other stuff then someone can port root. But idk how to pull the files to get root. But your tab s is faster then exynos chipset

I'm about to have the same problem, I think. I'm getting mine from AT&T, and it's another T707. I'm getting the feeling that we'll be SOL when it comes to root, recovery, and roms. :crying:

potatomanwrl said:
I'm about to have the same problem, I think. I'm getting mine from AT&T, and it's another T707. I'm getting the feeling that we'll be SOL when it comes to root, recovery, and roms. :crying:
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I'm more amazed I got such a good deal on it, and that it exists for Verizon. It's not listed anywhere for sale on their website.
I'll keep an eye out for root. Just hope the updates from Samsung are timely.

docchaos said:
I'm more amazed I got such a good deal on it, and that it exists for Verizon. It's not listed anywhere for sale on their website.
I'll keep an eye out for root. Just hope the updates from Samsung are timely.
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I just picked one up too. $99.
So we're out of luck for root?

StingK said:
I just picked one up too. $99.
So we're out of luck for root?
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If we can find a way to pull your recovery. Img and give it to chainfire or beanstown so they can port it. As of now no. I have no idea how to pull the recovery also. Not sure if twrp can work on your device? Is your bootloader locked?

DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
If we can find a way to pull your recovery. Img and give it to chainfire or beanstown so they can port it. As of now no. I have no idea how to pull the recovery also. Not sure if twrp can work on your device? Is your bootloader locked?
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I have no idea how to check the bootloader.
If you can point me in a direction, I'll do what I can.
Otherwise, I'll just keep an eye on this forum.
Thanks

StingK said:
I have no idea how to check the bootloader.
If you can point me in a direction, I'll do what I can.
Otherwise, I'll just keep an eye on this forum.
Thanks
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Well turn off your device.
Now hold power, home, vol down till it saids warning you are about to install a custom os. Now just press the volup. If you can access that it should be unlock. Now to exit, now do power, home, vol down again and it should reboot.
I think there may be a way to root your model tablets unless the bootloader is unlocked.
My think was since twrp works on the 805 and 705 also, shouldnt that mean they should be the same for all versions of the tab s if the have the same chip? Because twrp was build for the tab s wifi devices but still worked on the lte devices. So what i thought is that they should work for the 807s with unlocked bootloaders the same way they did with the lte tab s. Then if they can get that installed all they need to do is flash supersu zip since cfautoroot does the same. Though this is jist a though but could get you guys root. Highly not recommned you try it thoufg. But just check if your bootloader is unlocked with what i told you and well see if the root method I thought of may start something. But twrp only works on eynos.... So.. Idk

I'd really just be happy with a working root method. A recovery would be nice, but not really necessary for me since there's not likely to be any development for these weird US lte variants.

docchaos said:
I'm more amazed I got such a good deal on it, and that it exists for Verizon. It's not listed anywhere for sale on their website.
I'll keep an eye out for root. Just hope the updates from Samsung are timely.
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Hi, where did you find the T707v? I have looked almost everywhere.
The Galaxy Tab S 8.4 is available for other carriers, but I haven't found it for Verizon.
Thank you if you reply, Jeff

TCC Wireless - http://www2.ecellularconnection.com/
They are a non-corporate Verizon retailer. They seem to be the only ones carrying it.
It is an approved Verizon device, but not sold at Verizon corporate stores. ( I Guess )

Do you know if it is locked to Verizon and also has the LTE bands to work on AT&T?

dzeek said:
Do you know if it is locked to Verizon and also has the LTE bands to work on AT&T?
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Currently getting LTE using my T-Mobile sim. I'll check using an AT&T sim in the morning.

I have one too. Even without root for $100 I couldn't pass it up.

05GT said:
Currently getting LTE using my T-Mobile sim. I'll check using an AT&T sim in the morning.
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Thanks. Please let me know if the AT&T sim works. I'm trying to find a version of the tablet that works on both Verizon and AT&T.

dzeek said:
Thanks. Please let me know if the AT&T sim works. I'm trying to find a version of the tablet that works on both Verizon and AT&T.
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dzeek said:
Thanks. Please let me know if the AT&T sim works. I'm trying to find a version of the tablet that works on both Verizon and AT&T.
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Answered my own question. Got one. Both Verizon and AT&T sim cards work.

Yes they do. I forgot to get on here and post an update. The bad boy is GSM unlocked with full LTE on the major carriers.

You guys all got unicorns (the Galaxy Tab S 8.4 with the Snapdragon). I wish I had seen this thread before I purchased the Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 a few weeks ago. For some reason my Google Alert didn't pick it up.
I have 2 questions for those who bought the Verizon from TCC Wireless.
1) Was it $99 with a 2 year contract with Verizon or was it $99 straight up no contract?
2) What color is it, white or titanium bronze?
I'm a little disappointed that it only has the Snapdragon 800 instead of the 801 but either of them is better began the Exynos in the other versions.

Sam K said:
You guys all got unicorns (the Galaxy Tab S 8.4 with the Snapdragon). I wish I had seen this thread before I purchased the Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 a few weeks ago. For some reason my Google Alert didn't pick it up.
I have 2 questions for those who bought the Verizon from TCC Wireless.
1) Was it $99 with a 2 year contract with Verizon or was it $99 straight up no contract?
2) What color is it, white or titanium bronze?
I'm a little disappointed that it only has the Snapdragon 800 instead of the 801 but either of them is better began the Exynos in the other versions.
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1. I don't know since I did not get mine from them.
2. I believe the Verizon model is only available in white.

[Q] confused about rooting my note 4

i dont get it. havent be on this site in forever since i rooted the note 2 lol
is there a root for my phone? have verizon samsung note 4 model sm-n910v sku smn910vzke i did buy it from the verizon store but i had to wait for it to be sent to the store as they was all out i see DEVELOPER EDITION ONLY root but i dont know if thats for my phone are not? can anyone help me oe get me up to daTE on this??

Odds are you have a retail model... you can only get the devs ed. From the samsung site. sucks I know wish I knew this before dropping 750 on it. Yes I Bought mine right out

JamesCaywood said:
i dont get it. havent be on this site in forever since i rooted the note 2 lol
is there a root for my phone? have verizon samsung note 4 model sm-n910v sku smn910vzke i did buy it from the verizon store but i had to wait for it to be sent to the store as they was all out i see DEVELOPER EDITION ONLY root but i dont know if thats for my phone are not? can anyone help me oe get me up to daTE on this??
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If you bought your phone from a Verizon store then you have a Retail version of the Note 4. The Developer Edition of the Note can only be purchased (new) from Samsung. There currently is no way to root the retail version of the Note 4.

Found a site who's tryin' to brick the noobs.
http://primehowto.com/root-verizon-galaxy-note-4-sm-n910v/

Delakit said:
Found a site who's tryin' to brick the noobs.
http://primehowto.com/root-verizon-galaxy-note-4-sm-n910v/
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It will not brick....it just Will Not Work...
Sent from my SM-N910V / VZW Note 4 DE / Factory Bootloader Unlocked / Rooted / Custom Kernel-ed / TWRP 2.8.4.0.trltevzw

Has anyone tried giefroot? I tried it on my Note 4, but it doesn't work since the kernel is too new. Did anyone with the old firmware try it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/giefroot-rooting-tool-cve-2014-4322-t3011598

I'd wager most of my earnings that there isn't many methods that haven't been looked into at this point. When something works there will probably be an explosion within the community that you won't be able to avoid even if you try... But, I'm happy to see others enthusiastic about finding the necessary info.

Note 4 at&t root finally out?

So, I saw a guy on youtube who has uploaded a video of permanently rooting a Galaxy note 4 at&t variant on Lollipop. I searched the internet and there's no clear way to do it as yet. Take a look at the video. Seems legit but why hasn't he told the world about it and redeemed the bounty for this root?
Also, a very stupid question but, if the at&t software has a locked bootloader, is there any way to install another software like of the N910F or N910G or N910T on the n910A via odin or something so we can root?
Can't post a link to that video since I'm a new member so go on youtube and search n910a root and its a video by a user called : vu ngoc

He claims to have rooted both it and the Verizon model. He has never posted a method, etc. Just videos and using it as advertisement for his "phone repair" business in Vietnam. His thread announcing it in the Verizon section was shut down shortly after he posted it.
If you look at his XDA post history, it's a repetitive pattern with him. Announcing something, saying it's coming and then disappears.
Take that as you will, but most take it as a scam.

I got too happy after seeing that video haha but yes since he's not added any tutorial or claimed the bounty I'm very much going to agree to what you have said.
Also the second part, can I install an N910F or N910T software on n910a so that I can root it?

No way in hell, If we could....****...we'd all do it by now. Things in life are never that easy :c

i bought my N910A from far east and N910F software was on it. I didnt know it was a N910A otherwise i wouldnt buy it. I dont know how did they do it despite locked bootloader but they did it.

Unlockable bootloader / root?

UPDATE: BOOTLOADER IS UNLOCKED AND TABLET CAN BE ROOTED USING MAGISK v16.7!
Haven't seen any discussion on root yet for this tablet. I'm interested in picking one up, but would like to know if the bootloader is unlockable so that the tablet could have TWRP/custom ROMs installed on it at some point. Especially interested because of Treble.
Anybody have any ideas yet or is it still too early?

That is also interesting for me. I will never by a phone or tablet without the possibility of rooting. I currently owning the Tab S2 under Lineage OS 14.1 and I am pretty happy with the degree of freedom I have.
I hope the development with the Tab S4 will be more than with the Tab S3 (this was the reason why I never buyed one)

hurray said:
That is also interesting for me. I will never by a phone or tablet without the possibility of rooting. I currently owning the Tab S2 under Lineage OS 14.1 and I am pretty happy with the degree of freedom I have.
I hope the development with the Tab S4 will be more than with the Tab S3 (this was the reason why I never buyed one)
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Sadly don't get your hopes up... SD's are notorious for being locked.

The S3 was Snapdragon and was unlocked as far as I'm aware. Either way, I have sent Samsung an e-mail requesting kernel source code for the Tab S4 since it apparently hasn't been done yet. Just waiting for a response.

With the Samsung devices I've had, no issue unlocking the bootloader. You have to use Odin or Heimdall to load a rom, and your warranty is voided (they've all had a 'knox bit' that gets burnt and is irreversible once burnt).
SD's notorious for being locked? Not in my experience. They are the most common chips to have aftermarket roms, thus the devices have to be unlockable. I'd put my money on a rom being developed for a device with an SD before any other chip available.

AsItLies said:
With the Samsung devices I've had, no issue unlocking the bootloader. You have to use Odin or Heimdall to load a rom, and your warranty is voided (they've all had a 'knox bit' that gets burnt and is irreversible once burnt).
SD's notorious for being locked? Not in my experience. They are the most common chips to have aftermarket roms, thus the devices have to be unlockable. I'd put my money on a rom being developed for a device with an SD before any other chip available.
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In terms of phones, all Samsung Snapdragon phones sold anywhere except China/HK are bootloader locked. That's why I ended up importing an Exynos variant S9, so that I could benefit from the unlocked bootloader.

Bl is NOT locked. I contacted @ashyx a few days hoping he could make us a twrp, but he hasn't got back to me.

Phones are not tablets. Phones are generally branded to a carrier that likes to fiddle with the UI, add unremovable bloatware, determine tethering rules, and other things that can be circumvented with root. My money is that the generic tab s4 gets an unlocked bootloader eventually and the Verizon branded one does not

rickyray9 said:
Phones are not tablets. Phones are generally branded to a carrier that likes to fiddle with the UI, add unremovable bloatware, determine tethering rules, and other things that can be circumvented with root. My money is that the generic tab s4 gets an unlocked bootloader eventually and the Verizon branded one does not
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The generic tab S4 is the one that I plan to pick up. I'm just worried because even the official carrier unlocked Galaxy S9 sold in the US and Canada has a locked bootloader, so it just seems like a very Samsung thing right now.

tomiga said:
The generic tab S4 is the one that I plan to pick up. I'm just worried because even the official carrier unlocked Galaxy S9 sold in the US and Canada has a locked bootloader, so it just seems like a very Samsung thing right now.
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We will see. If the bootloader is really locked I will not become a customer of the Tab S4. Simple as that, as then there is no benefit for me anymore.

Received an e-mail this morning from Samsung in regards to the Tab S4 kernel source:
[SAMSUNG OSRC COMMENTS DELIVERY NOTIFICATION]
model name : SM-T830
Dear Customer,
Thank you for your interest in our product.
We are now in the process of reviewing your inquiry.
We will let you know a reply to this issue soon.
Sincerely yours,
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I have the Verizon T837V if any info is needed. There's already an update, but I haven't taken it yet.
Edit: looks like it might just be a security update, data usage is claiming only about 10mb for system update.
Edit 2: it's a small build update, new kernel, baseband.

TechNyne66 said:
I have the Verizon T837V if any info is needed. There's already an update, but I haven't taken it yet.
Edit: looks like it might just be a security update, data usage is claiming only about 10mb for system update.
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Unfortunately I'm expecting the Verizon variant to be locked. I'm moreso just curious about the generic Wi-Fi variant.

tomiga said:
Unfortunately I'm expecting the Verizon variant to be locked. I'm moreso just curious about the generic Wi-Fi variant.
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Vz will absolutely be locked. WiFi is not.

suzook said:
Vz will absolutely be locked. WiFi is not.
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Do you have a source on this?

tomiga said:
Do you have a source on this?
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I have it. I'm the source.

suzook said:
I have it. I'm the source.
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Without anything custom to flash yet, how do you know that the bootloader is unlocked? As far as I'm aware, just having "OEM Unlock" available in developer settings doesn't necessarily mean that custom binaries (TWRP, for example) can be flashed without throwing an error.
I'm just trying to be extremely careful before I get a Tab S4, because I don't want to buy it only to end up returning it just because it ends up being locked after all.

[SAMSUNG OSRC COMMENTS DELIVERY NOTIFICATION]
♦ model name : SM-T830 ♦
Dear Customer,
We are pleased to provide you the source code of SM-T830.
You can download the source code from the site below: http://opensource.samsung.com
Thank you.
Sincerely yours,
Samsung OSRC Team
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Sure enough, the source code is also available on the Samsung OSRC website.

Well thats cool.
When I was thinking SD not being unlocked I'm thinking of the phone versions are not unlock able, or rarity that they can be.

suzook said:
Bl is NOT locked. I contacted @ashyx a few days hoping he could make us a twrp, but he hasn't got back to me.
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u saying u purchased the verizon tab s4 from verizon and unlocked the bootloader?

SM-N975U1 - OEM Unlocking missing - still within 7 days.

Hello,
I just got the Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ on September 30th, SM-N975U1 variant, and I cannot toggle the OEM unlocking because it is missing. I read that this is due to the KG state of the phone and I would have to wait 7 days for it to be an option to toggle. I am trying to find out from other Note 10+ users with the same variant as mine if the option appeared after waiting 7 days?

BadBoy2K7 said:
Hello,
I just got the Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ on September 30th, SM-N975U1 variant, and I cannot toggle the OEM unlocking because it is missing. I read that this is due to the KG state of the phone and I would have to wait 7 days for it to be an option to toggle. I am trying to find out from other Note 10+ users with the same variant as mine if the option appeared after waiting 7 days?
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Unfortunately the "U" variant does not have an unlockable bootloader. The OEM toggle is not there so that variant cannot be rooted (no USA variants can at the moment).

Exynos equals root.

carandcar said:
Unfortunately the "U" variant does not have an unlockable bootloader. The OEM toggle is not there so that variant cannot be rooted (no USA variants can at the moment).
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For realsies? none of the "U" Variant... So I cant root my note 10+ SM-N975U? Dang that really grinds my gears!!!!!!!!
Leave it to samsung to figure out a new way to keep people from rooting their phones... "Hey lets get rid of the OEM unlock toggle, that way they cant unlock the bootloader and root their phone, and will have to keep all the bloatware we, and their carrier, force down their throats against their will, whether they want to or not."
I knew I never should have bought this phone. I swore 6 years ago I would never own another Samsung Device, but then they came out with this cool new phone and I wanted it so bad. I should have just waited until the pixel 4 XL came out and bought it instead.
Guess I'll Know better next time around at least, and by the time I need a new phone hopefully all phones will have the inscreen ultrasonic fingerprint reader.
I HATE YOU SAMSUNG!!!!!!!!

1. You could have informed yourself prior to buying, it is common knowledge US SD-models have locked bootloader and cannot be rooted...
2. It is merely a US-provider requirement to have locked bootloader, not Samsung's choice. Note 10/10+ is rootable in most other parts of the world..

OnnoJ said:
1. You could have informed yourself prior to buying, it is common knowledge US SD-models have locked bootloader and cannot be rooted...
2. It is merely a US-provider requirement to have locked bootloader, not Samsung's choice. Note 10/10+ is rootable in most other parts of the world..
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What do u mean SD Models? Also if it's a us provider requirement then how come you can buy phones that have the OEM unlock option available on them?
Also this page is the first I even heard of it... Every time I search it shows that 7 days after you activate it the OEM unlock shows up. And on top of that just because it's not rootable at the time of purchase doesn't mean somewhere down the line someone won't figure out how to.
In fact my last phone was sold by a carrier, as carrier unlocked, and it had the bootloader toggle on it as well which made rooting a breeze.
I'm sorry but I don't agree with you... It has nothing to do with carriers, it's Samsung who has removed this feature not carriers. This is actually the first phone I've heard of that has the oem bootloader removed from the android software.
And besides that if you buy the carrier unlocked version of the note 10+ it should be your choice what you do with it not carriers and not manufactures.
Oh also I found an article (link below) Where someone managed to root the note 10+ SM-N975U with a patched boot image, which I would assume would also work for SM-N975U1 as well.
So like I said it's only a matter of time before someone figured out how to root it anyway. And my post was me griping at Samsung for doing what they did, and staying if I had waited I could have gotten a device that is made by a company that isn't actively trying to thwart rooting.
Link: http://androidbiits.com/root-samsung-galaxy-note-10-plus-sm-n975u-sm-n975u1-easily/

SD=Snapdragon, the SoC of the N975U/N975U1 phones. Those devices for US market have the locked bootloader.
The models with Exynos SoC (Samsung's own SoC), in models of most international markets N975F have working OEM unlock option and thereby unlockable bootloader.
Why would Samsung provide unlockable bootloader for one part of the world, but not for US where phones have US SoC (I.c. Snapdragon)? You tell me...
Maybe you can join this club: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10+/how-to/bounty-sm-n975u1-note-10-usa-unlocked-t4006249

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What do u mean SD Models? Also if it's a us provider requirement then how come you can buy phones that have the OEM unlock option available on them?
Also this page is the first I even heard of it... Every time I search it shows that 7 days after you activate it the OEM unlock shows up. And on top of that just because it's not rootable at the time of purchase doesn't mean somewhere down the line someone won't figure out how to.
In fact my last phone was sold by a carrier, as carrier unlocked, and it had the bootloader toggle on it as well which made rooting a breeze.
I'm sorry but I don't agree with you... It has nothing to do with carriers, it's Samsung who has removed this feature not carriers. This is actually the first phone I've heard of that has the oem bootloader removed from the android software.
And besides that if you buy the carrier unlocked version of the note 10+ it should be your choice what you do with it not carriers and not manufactures.
Oh also I found an article (link below) Where someone managed to root the note 10+ SM-N975U with a patched boot image, which I would assume would also work for SM-N975U1 as well.
So like I said it's only a matter of time before someone figured out how to root it anyway. And my post was me griping at Samsung for doing what they did, and staying if I had waited I could have gotten a device that is made by a company that isn't actively trying to thwart rooting.
Link: http://androidbiits.com/root-samsung-galaxy-note-10-plus-sm-n975u-sm-n975u1-easily/
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lol they sure get a lot of clicks with that fake news

try setting a lock. i've had this same issue and thats what worked for me. Although when i unlock and root, it factory reset which sucked.

OnnoJ said:
1. You could have informed yourself prior to buying, it is common knowledge US SD-models have locked bootloader and cannot be rooted...
2. It is merely a US-provider requirement to have locked bootloader, not Samsung's choice. Note 10/10+ is rootable in most other parts of the world..
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Well why not do a oneplus/google thing where unlocked versions have unlockable bootloaders while carrier versions don't?

Note 10+ Snapdragon
It is a nice device stock, after flashing the N975U1 firmware with ODIN, and disabling (at least), about 150 system-apps with ADB, it is fast and efficient.
I can't imagine how nice the Note 10+ would be with administrative rights.