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Bootloader Locked?

Has anyone actually physically checked? I saw the Samsung chats, but nothing officially stating they are or are not locked.

Yes, FRP lock is on and no option to turn it off anywhere like on the Exynos model.

I don't see why samsung, and if not them the companies, have to be dicks about this and screw over their US clients.

Interceptor777 said:
Yes, FRP lock is on and no option to turn it off anywhere like on the Exynos model.
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It is shame. One of the reasons that I switched to Tmobile was because their Samsung phones always had unlocked bootloaders.

I learned my lesson with the s7 edge and didn't buy the phone right away this time around. My Note 7 with root was amazing, but we all know what happen with it.

aggieranch said:
It is shame. One of the reasons that I switched to Tmobile was because their Samsung phones always had unlocked bootloaders.
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I feel your pain. I switched from at&t for that very same reason and now all us models have locked bootloaders, but with all the customization you could do to these phones rooting and flashing isn't really necessary for me anymore. I just like the phone all around. It's a great phone. [emoji4]
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Cancelled my T-Mobile pre-order awhile ago for this reason! Ordered the Exynos international model so that I can continue to enjoy unlocked on XDA!

galaxys said:
Cancelled my T-Mobile pre-order awhile ago for this reason! Ordered the Exynos international model so that I can continue to enjoy unlocked on XDA!
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But you won't be getting early updates and you may suffer when the gigabit network comes although don't quote me on that.

bossei said:
But you won't be getting early updates and you may suffer when the gigabit network comes although don't quote me on that.
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Lol... its a well known fact that the international devices get faster and more frequent updates than US or Canadian devices ever will.
I was laughing at all the guys on US/ Can s7s whining about no update to nougat..i had nougat on my international S7 edge mos before they did.
Sent from my Note 7, S7 Edge or S6

I had both TMobile branded S7 edges and international models as well. I found that I actually preferred the TMobile version for volte, rcs messaging, native video calling and a few more small percs. Yeah the international models was bootloader unlockable and had faster updates but I had to do so many work arounds to get it close to how I wanted and yet it still never did. I could have rooted and got everything I wanted but I actually use Samsung Pay and that'd kill that. To each their own. I also recall the TMobile S7 edge and note 7's having a locked bootloader​ still eventually got root.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+

Rydah805 said:
I had both TMobile branded S7 edges and international models as well. I found that I actually preferred the TMobile version for volte, rcs messaging, native video calling and a few more small percs. Yeah the international models was bootloader unlockable and had faster updates but I had to do so many work arounds to get it close to how I wanted and yet it still never did. I could have rooted and got everything I wanted but I actually use Samsung Pay and that'd kill that. To each their own. I also recall the TMobile S7 edge and note 7's having a locked bootloader​ still eventually got root.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+
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True the international versions lack some features but depending on your use they may or may not matter..for me I could care less about any of those so no biggie but others may need them.
Id rather have root,twrp and roms etc
The root on the s7 and note 7 snaps was via leaked engineering firmware and it wasnt ideal...buggy, slow and just a general pain to deal with.
Sent from my Note 7, S7 Edge or S6

Rydah805 said:
I had both TMobile branded S7 edges and international models as well. I found that I actually preferred the TMobile version for volte, rcs messaging, native video calling and a few more small percs. Yeah the international models was bootloader unlockable and had faster updates but I had to do so many work arounds to get it close to how I wanted and yet it still never did. I could have rooted and got everything I wanted but I actually use Samsung Pay and that'd kill that. To each their own. I also recall the TMobile S7 edge and note 7's having a locked bootloader​ still eventually got root.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+
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Yep, I had the s7 edge and rooted it but it wasn't the same as when I had the T-Mobile version of the phone. It was a pain. These phones are great and I rather use it to its fullest. I also use android pay and want to use samsung pay so for me I'm good without unlocked billiards for now. I have a bunch of phones I have rooted that I can get my flashaholic tendency out. Lol. My pixel gives me that pure android feel so having a vendor feel is ok with me. I will be going back and fourth. I also don't know how having an international version will affect the gigabit network update when it comes out.

Rydah805 said:
I had both TMobile branded S7 edges and international models as well. I found that I actually preferred the TMobile version for volte, rcs messaging, native video calling and a few more small percs. Yeah the international models was bootloader unlockable and had faster updates but I had to do so many work arounds to get it close to how I wanted and yet it still never did. I could have rooted and got everything I wanted but I actually use Samsung Pay and that'd kill that. To each their own. I also recall the TMobile S7 edge and note 7's having a locked bootloader​ still eventually got root.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8+
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I got the international s7 edge and volte, WiFi calling work great with csc utility 2.3.5 for it
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king3opobn said:
I got the international s7 edge and volte, WiFi calling work great with csc utility 2.3.5 for it
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same here
not sure what he's talking about
skipping the T mobile one again
waiting on swappa price to go down a bit
someone sold one for 700 new and i misssed that

force70 said:
Lol... its a well known fact that the international devices get faster and more frequent updates than US or Canadian devices ever will.
I was laughing at all the guys on US/ Can s7s whining about no update to nougat..i had nougat on my international S7 edge mos before they did.
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You get what you choose. I chose a carrier model because it is superior in network quality. I can't root my primary phone anymore because my work policies flag rooted phones automatically and I stop syncing. For my playground, I have Pixel XL. Fastest updates, unlocked everything. For a reliable phone I have TMobile S8+. Like i said, you get what you pay for and pick up.

I mean hey sure the bootloader is locked, but once the right person gets one of these in their hands Im sure there will be an exploit. Just gotta wait patiently good things come to those who wait!

jakobkay said:
I mean hey sure the bootloader is locked, but once the right person gets one of these in their hands Im sure there will be an exploit. Just gotta wait patiently good things come to those who wait!
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While it is software written by humans and anything is possible. S7 never got an unlocked bootloader. We got root with the eng_boot.imgs, but never an unlocked bl.
But I'm holding hope. The community is full of extremely clever people.

Really sucks, I recall the heyday of the Galaxy Note II and SIII, man back then there were like 200 ROM's out, Touchwiz, AOSP, CyanogenMod, etc... Root and Recovery available the first week the phones released.
And I'm talking the U.S. carrier phones too. Not just the international.
And then they all stopped after the Galaxy S4 came out. They released a firmware and locked the **** down like a Navy sub going deep. Note 3 too LOCKED. And forever the good days long gone.
Except the T-Mobile Note 5 was rooted and ROM. But that was a freak rarity.
Now root and recovery are things of dreams for Galaxy phones.
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Whole reason I moved to T-Mobile two years ago, was for the unlocked bootloaders that T-Mo was famous for, even when Verizon and ATT didn't allow that anymore. The Galaxy Note 5 was their last unlocked phone, since then, the S7, and Note7 were LOCKED, and looks like the S8 is too.
Glory days are gone.
Almost like the Jailbreak scene, which has faded bad, and there's only a stable JB released maybe once a year or every 18 months.

Samsung Galaxy S9 Bootloader - Unlocked Thread

Guys,
I didn't see any questions popped up in the forum yet about unlocked bootloaders. I'd like to buy an unlocked version directly from Samsung. I remember Best Buy selling a different version of an unlocked S7 and S8 that you could not unlock the bootloader. With that said, I wanted to create a small list of the majority of S9's here in the states and see if we can confirm the bootloader is unlockable and that fastboot commands work.
Samsung Galaxy S9/S9+ Unlocked direct from Samsung
Samsung Galaxy S9/S9+ Unocked from brick and mortar stores like Best Buy / B&H Photo, etc.
Samsung Galaxy S9/S9+ from Verizon
Samsung Galaxy S9/S9+ from Sprint
Samsung Galaxy S9/S9+ from AT&T
Samsung Galaxy S9/S9+ from T-Mobile
Thanks, guys!

joesee said:
I didn't see any questions popped up in the forum yet about unlocked bootloaders.
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That's because we all know the snapdragon ones will be locked, if you want an unlocked bootloader get the european one.

I thought that "unlocked" in this context just meant it it's unlocked from the various carriers, not that the bootloader was unlocked?

protella said:
I thought that "unlocked" in this context just meant it it's unlocked from the various carriers, not that the bootloader was unlocked?
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Clearly we 'all' don't know, hence the reason why the thread was created.

peachpuff said:
That's because we all know the snapdragon ones will be locked, if you want an unlocked bootloader get the european one.
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Do you have any idea if Samsung warranties the Exynos versions here in the states?

joesee said:
Do you have any idea if Samsung warranties the Exynos versions here in the states?
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No it doesn't, but if you buy your phone from clove.co.uk they will help you with warranty if you send it back to them, but if you unlock your bootloader and root the phone then your warranty is gone anyway.

joesee said:
Guys,
I didn't see any questions popped up in the forum yet about unlocked bootloaders. I'd like to buy an unlocked version directly from Samsung. I remember Best Buy selling a different version of an unlocked S7 and S8 that you could not unlock the bootloader. With that said, I wanted to create a small list of the majority of S9's here in the states and see if we can confirm the bootloader is unlockable and that fastboot commands work.
Samsung Galaxy S9/S9+ Unlocked direct from Samsung
Samsung Galaxy S9/S9+ Unocked from brick and mortar stores like Best Buy / B&H Photo, etc.
Samsung Galaxy S9/S9+ from Verizon
Samsung Galaxy S9/S9+ from Sprint
Samsung Galaxy S9/S9+ from AT&T
Samsung Galaxy S9/S9+ from T-Mobile
Thanks, guys!
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Your list is showing network unlocked devices and such not bootloader unlockables

That's because each carrier in the states typically has their own variant and each has different bootloader status. Usually Verizon is locked down. Usually T-Mobile isn't (until recent years), so I created the thread to have one place to look and CONFIRM if a bootloader is locked or not.
This has nothing to do whether or not the phone is SIM unlocked. (Locked to a carrier)

peachpuff said:
That's because we all know the snapdragon ones will be locked, if you want an unlocked bootloader get the european one.
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This says it all.
Go exynos, snapdragons are a waste of time if you want an unlocked bootloader and development
The Chinese devices are snaps and BL unlocked also but see next to no development. So again exynos is a better choice
sent from my Pixel 2 XL or Note FE

Would still be good to get a confirmation whenever someone gets their "unlocked" snapdragon S9. Personally, I'm just waiting for Clove to get their stock... I would be highly surprised if you could unlock the snapdragon's S9 BL

peachpuff said:
No it doesn't, but if you buy your phone from clove.co.uk they will help you with warranty if you send it back to them, but if you unlock your bootloader and root the phone then your warranty is gone anyway.
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False. Denying warranty service for an unrelated issue is illegal in the US, large swaths of europe and many other places.
You and many others have fallen victim to a misinformation campaign put on by Samsung and many carriers to make you think this is true so that you either won't do it or if you do and they're is an issue then you won't even try.
Keep in mind it has to be something impossible to be caused by unlock or root, like for example a physical screen detect or the outside body becoming discolored. If it could at all be caused by something you did that you couldn't do without unlock or root you are still sol even if you know you didn't

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False. Denying warranty service for an unrelated issue is illegal in the US, large swaths of europe and many other places.
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How many phones with knox tripped has samsung fixed for you under warranty? Illegal schmiegel no one is going to take samsung to court in the US if the service center denies you warranty if knox is tripped.

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How many phones with knox tripped has samsung fixed for you under warranty? Illegal schmiegel no one is going to take samsung to court in the US if the service center denies you warranty if knox is tripped.
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Small claims is a great, inexpensive way to get big corporations to cooperate when damages are small. No lawyers in most states, and companies will usually fix the problem rather than spending the resources to send someone to some small, local court to respond.

check the s7 and s8 Snapdragon forums and you will know what to expect.
as for fastboot on Samsung, you dont do that. You use Odin.

This is amazing. An entire thread of posts pertaining to everything except the op's question. To that end -
Yes! There are Snapdragon S8's and 9's with unlockable bootloaders. Snapdragon S8's we're being sold in China (by Samsung themselves) with unlockable bootloaders. With the S9, these phones are being sold in Latin America as well, making them easier to import. I don't know how, and wish I knew more about this before I bought my Snapdragon US variant.

clarkcant said:
This is amazing. An entire thread of posts pertaining to everything except the op's question. To that end -
Yes! There are Snapdragon S8's and 9's with unlockable bootloaders. Snapdragon S8's we're being sold in China (by Samsung themselves) with unlockable bootloaders. With the S9, these phones are being sold in Latin America as well, making them easier to import. I don't know how, and wish I knew more about this before I bought my Snapdragon US variant.
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Just sell it and buy an unlocked one, easy problem to fix
Now sure the Chinese and latin snaps are unlockable but historically see next to no development, exynos is where all the action is.
Something to keep in mind.
sent from my Pixel 2 XL or Note FE

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False. Denying warranty service for an unrelated issue is illegal in the US, large swaths of europe and many other places.
You and many others have fallen victim to a misinformation campaign put on by Samsung and many carriers to make you think this is true so that you either won't do it or if you do and they're is an issue then you won't even try.
Keep in mind it has to be something impossible to be caused by unlock or root, like for example a physical screen detect or the outside body becoming discolored. If it could at all be caused by something you did that you couldn't do without unlock or root you are still sol even if you know you didn't
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Samsung USA is a different company than Samsung. If you buy an exynos phone from Samsung, Samsung USA has no obligation to warranty it. I've tried.

kekistaneerefugee said:
Samsung USA is a different company than Samsung. If you buy an exynos phone from Samsung, Samsung USA has no obligation to warranty it. I've tried.
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Same here in Canada, but I'd rather have to deal with that than end up with a POS device which is locked down lol.
I just ordered a 128gb, dual sim exynos s9 plus so my trend with exynos continues ?
sent from my Pixel 2 XL or Note FE

kekistaneerefugee said:
Samsung USA is a different company than Samsung. If you buy an exynos phone from Samsung, Samsung USA has no obligation to warranty it. I've tried.
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Im sorry I don't follow,but I think it's irrelevent. It does not matter what the corporate structure of Samsung is. When you purchase a device, that device comes with a warranty. It is illegal in the usa to refuse service for an incident unrelated to root that would otherwise be covered by warranty. Doesn't matter if the warranty is with Santa Claus, it's still subject to us law.
They will of course try and tell you otherwise, but standing your ground, knowing your rights and threatening to sue in small claims court if it comes to it will get your warranty honored.

partcyborg said:
Im sorry I don't follow,but I think it's irrelevent. It does not matter what the corporate structure of Samsung is. When you purchase a device, that device comes with a warranty. It is illegal in the usa to refuse service for an incident unrelated to root that would otherwise be covered by warranty. Doesn't matter if the warranty is with Santa Claus, it's still subject to us law.
They will of course try and tell you otherwise, but standing your ground, knowing your rights and threatening to sue in small claims court if it comes to it will get your warranty honored.
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Wont work sorry.
Do you really think samsung cares about small claims court? They could show up with an army of lawyers if they wanted to. You on the other hand would spend more on a lawyer than what buying a new device would cost.
sent from my Pixel 2 XL or Note FE

Unlocked CDMA Variant?

I have looked around and can't seem to find a model that is cdma compatible with sprint that has the ability to unlock the bootloader. Seems the A505U carrier variant can't unlock the bootloader. I've tried doing the 7 day trick but it doesn't seem to work for the A505U sadly(looking for additional confirmation on this).

Also on the look out for this, but it's not looking very promising. ?

I wish there were an unlocked varient for the US i just purchased one and didnt realize till when i looked at the model number that its for Europe

So the Sprint model can not be unlocked and rooted? I haven't owned a Samsung device for several years but the A50 peaked my interest. Looks like the same scenario, GSM models can be unlocked and CDMA can not.

Xplorer4x4 said:
I have looked around and can't seem to find a model that is cdma compatible with sprint that has the ability to unlock the bootloader. Seems the A505U carrier variant can't unlock the bootloader. I've tried doing the 7 day trick but it doesn't seem to work for the A505U sadly(looking for additional confirmation on this).
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Sprints S10 5G (G977P) is bl unlockable..

elliwigy said:
Sprints S10 5G (G977P) is bl unlockable..
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I've seen atleast one other report that the 505U on Sprint and Verizon has locked BL. I've been told in telegram this si the case to. I have tested the 7 day trick extensively and it doesn't work on A505U. Did you have to do something special to get the oem unlock in dev options?

New To The Game..
Hello Gents...
Just picked up an Xfinity Version of the A50.
I have no plans to unlock and root.. as I want the security of Knox for Samsung / Google Pay.
But.. has anyone looked into what Xfinity is doing with their software?

Sprint Samsung A50 BL Unlock NO GO!
Ok so I am now an employee of Sprint. The information I have gathered is as follows. When Sprint requested this device from Samsung in their lengthy list of requirements one of them was that the ability to unlock the bootloader be removed. The reasoning behind this was that they did not want the end users to wind up " Accidentally " bricking their devices. As per insurance guidelines any attempt to modify the devices hardware and or software voids your warranty and your insurance that you carry on the device. So basically what they are saying is hey Android / Samsung community because of several hundred unintelligent people ruining their own devices we are removing the option in general. I am currently pushing to see if we can work with Samsung to push a firmware update that will allow this feature to be accessible as the whole point of having an android device it the open platform and being able to do these things. I really wish more cell phone manufacturers were like HTC which allows you to unlock the boot loader on any of their devices and even provide you a tool to turn S-Off on their website. But we cannot all be great.... Anyway hope that clears it up for ya'll and I am fighting the good fight on your behalf. P.S. I have the Samsung A50 and I was really not happy when I found out I could not root it.

@RoyalAssassin - QQ - will unlocked Sprint A50 work or can it be activated on VZ?

Huskers2012 said:
@RoyalAssassin - QQ - will unlocked Sprint A50 work or can it be activated on VZ?
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If you're sprint a50 is unlocked it should work fine on vzw. You can call vzw and give them you're imei to check compatibly.
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RoyalAssassin said:
Sprint Samsung A50 BL Unlock NO GO!
Ok so I am now an employee of Sprint. The information I have gathered is as follows. When Sprint requested this device from Samsung in their lengthy list of requirements one of them was that the ability to unlock the bootloader be removed. The reasoning behind this was that they did not want the end users to wind up " Accidentally " bricking their devices. As per insurance guidelines any attempt to modify the devices hardware and or software voids your warranty and your insurance that you carry on the device. So basically what they are saying is hey Android / Samsung community because of several hundred unintelligent people ruining their own devices we are removing the option in general. I am currently pushing to see if we can work with Samsung to push a firmware update that will allow this feature to be accessible as the whole point of having an android device it the open platform and being able to do these things. I really wish more cell phone manufacturers were like HTC which allows you to unlock the boot loader on any of their devices and even provide you a tool to turn S-Off on their website. But we cannot all be great.... Anyway hope that clears it up for ya'll and I am fighting the good fight on your behalf. P.S. I have the Samsung A50 and I was really not happy when I found out I could not root it.
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Here in 2021 looks like things didn't go well :'(
My old A505U is just off contract and the "OEM Unlock" switch is missing from the developer options menu. Additionally, none of the normal methods for getting it to appear have worked for me. (I have tried reflashing the stock firmware, the whole messing with the date&time and updating, factory reset + login + wait 2 to 14 days)
I have spent hours on the phone with both Samsung and my previous carrier, but with no results; none of their support people have the knowledge/are allowed to help with unlocking the bootloader.
I am getting very discouraged that this old phone of mine will ever run anything open :'(

N9750 HK/China Bootloader Unlock

Can anyone confirm whether an oem bootloader unlock is available for the 0 model devices from China and Brazil as it was for the S10? I'd like to get the N9750/DS for for the improved performance of the snapdragon chip, but it won't be worth a damn without root.

AllanRSS said:
Can anyone confirm whether an oem bootloader unlock is available for the 0 model devices from China and Brazil as it was for the S10? I'd like to get the N9750/DS for for the improved performance of the snapdragon chip, but it won't be worth a damn without root.
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Please take this as a legit question, not a dig... is root really that big a deal any more? I haven't rooted a phone since maybe my Note 4, and I really don't miss it much. Certainly not enough to deal with the crappy non-snappy models. Probably the best thing about root back then for me was getting rid of the bloat, but you can do much of that anyhow and the phone is plenty fast regardless now.

AllanRSS said:
Can anyone confirm whether an oem bootloader unlock is available for the 0 model devices from China and Brazil as it was for the S10? I'd like to get the N9750/DS for for the improved performance of the snapdragon chip, but it won't be worth a damn without root.
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I received my N9750 (TGY) today and after enabling dev options there is no unlock bootloader option for what's it worth.

sansnil said:
I received my N9750 (TGY) today and after enabling dev options there is no unlock bootloader option for what's it worth.
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How sad.... I had a glimmer of hope when I discovered the S10 folk rooting their snapdragon devices. Thanks for the info anyhow
Can anyone else with an 0 model device, perhaps the DS version, confirm that this is the same across all devices?

rcobourn said:
Please take this as a legit question, not a dig... is root really that big a deal any more? I haven't rooted a phone since maybe my Note 4, and I really don't miss it much. Certainly not enough to deal with the crappy non-snappy models. Probably the best thing about root back then for me was getting rid of the bloat, but you can do much of that anyhow and the phone is plenty fast regardless now.
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For me root is essential. I use my device as an all around computer replacement when traveling, relying on chroot Linux to use desktop level graphics and video editing software. I also like to configure my environment and take full advantage of tasker and scripting to improve my user experience and workflow. I know this isn't the most common use case and I'm sure for most people unrooted is fine.

Good news. I checked again today and the unlock bootloader option was available. There must be some 24 hour delay I'm theorizing. Root away!

sansnil said:
Good news. I checked again today and the unlock bootloader option was available. There must be some 24 hour delay I'm theorizing. Root away!
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Yay! Thanks a bunch for checking back for me. Pretty excited now.

Hey guys, I am thinking of jumping from my Galaxy S10+ Exynos to a Note10+ (Snapdragon) especially the Chinese/Latin America version, and I want to know if you can unlock the bootloader, this is mostly for me to flash updates via Odin, not for root as I do not use it anyway.
Can you unlock the bootloader of this version?
Can you flash official updates to this device via Odin?
Thanks in advance guys!

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AllanRSS said:
Can anyone confirm whether an oem bootloader unlock is available for the 0 model devices from China and Brazil as it was for the S10? I'd like to get the N9750/DS for for the improved performance of the snapdragon chip, but it won't be worth a damn without root.
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Please take this as a legit question, not a dig... is root really that big a deal any more? I haven't rooted a phone since maybe my Note 4, and I really don't miss it much. Certainly not enough to deal with the crappy non-snappy models. Probably the best thing about root back then for me was getting rid of the bloat, but you can do much of that anyhow and the phone is plenty fast regardless now.
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Good news. I checked again today and the unlock bootloader option was available. There must be some 24 hour delay I'm theorizing. Root away!
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aromerodaniel said:
Hey guys, I am thinking of jumping from my Galaxy S10+ Exynos to a Note10+ (Snapdragon) especially the Chinese/Latin America version, and I want to know if you can unlock the bootloader, this is mostly for me to flash updates via Odin, not for root as I do not use it anyway.
Can you unlock the bootloader of this version?
Can you flash official updates to this device via Odin?
Thanks in advance guys!
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Wait youre saying certain models come with an inbuilt option to unlock the bootloader?? i believe im using an SM-N975U with TMobile, and because im currently renegotiating things with them concerning an amount, they wont unlock it yet so it can be used with another carrier, and when i've attempted to do so with 3rd party unlock services they were unable to.. So are you saying if i acquired use of one of these it'd be not only unlocked thus able to be used with another carrier but its also rootable even though it uses a snapdragon? Would the only issue be to change the language to English or is there a lot more to it to make it usable here in the US? Which models does this apply to, just the one you mentioned? i believe i considered the unlocking offer for the snapgradragon, but the lack of transparency and being that i'm told it's from china (where Chinese friends tell me the lack of business ethics is unreal)i believe made me very uncomfortable.

You are conflating carrier lock and bootloader lock.

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You are conflating carrier lock and bootloader lock.
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How? Am lead to believe a carrier unlock means youre not locked to a particular carrier, and bootloader unlock means the operating system files one is locked out from using by a manufacturer, are unlocked to become changeable. Could they be two separate questions? So is there an answer?

AllanRSS said:
Can anyone confirm whether an oem bootloader unlock is available for the 0 model devices from China and Brazil as it was for the S10? I'd like to get the N9750/DS for for the improved performance of the snapdragon chip, but it won't be worth a damn without root.
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Would you be kind to post where you acquired it from?

dominick_7 said:
Wait youre saying certain models come with an inbuilt option to unlock the bootloader?? i believe im using an SM-N975U with TMobile, and because im currently renegotiating things with them concerning an amount, they wont unlock it yet so it can be used with another carrier, and when i've attempted to do so with 3rd party unlock services they were unable to.. So are you saying if i acquired use of one of these it'd be not only unlocked thus able to be used with another carrier but its also rootable even though it uses a snapdragon? Would the only issue be to change the language to English or is there a lot more to it to make it usable here in the US? Which models does this apply to, just the one you mentioned? i believe i considered the unlocking offer for the snapgradragon, but the lack of transparency and being that i'm told it's from china (where Chinese friends tell me the lack of business ethics is unreal)i believe made me very uncomfortable.
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Carrier lock means the phone is locked to a particular carrier and is tied to the device's IMEI. Bootloader lock is a security feature installed by the OEM to prevent malicious code from running on boot up. Unlocking the bootloader allows you to root the phone and install custom ROMs. It does not remove the carrier lock.
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gernerttl said:
Carrier lock means the phone is locked to a particular carrier and is tied to the device's IMEI. Bootloader lock is a security feature installed by the OEM to prevent malicious code from running on boot up. Unlocking the bootloader allows you to root the phone and install custom ROMs. It does not remove the carrier lock.
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i believe i clarified something similar if someone decided to read it... can you or someone answer the question instead of conflate two things i believe i distinguished already..?

SM-N975U1 - OEM Unlocking missing - still within 7 days.

Hello,
I just got the Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ on September 30th, SM-N975U1 variant, and I cannot toggle the OEM unlocking because it is missing. I read that this is due to the KG state of the phone and I would have to wait 7 days for it to be an option to toggle. I am trying to find out from other Note 10+ users with the same variant as mine if the option appeared after waiting 7 days?

BadBoy2K7 said:
Hello,
I just got the Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ on September 30th, SM-N975U1 variant, and I cannot toggle the OEM unlocking because it is missing. I read that this is due to the KG state of the phone and I would have to wait 7 days for it to be an option to toggle. I am trying to find out from other Note 10+ users with the same variant as mine if the option appeared after waiting 7 days?
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Unfortunately the "U" variant does not have an unlockable bootloader. The OEM toggle is not there so that variant cannot be rooted (no USA variants can at the moment).

Exynos equals root.

carandcar said:
Unfortunately the "U" variant does not have an unlockable bootloader. The OEM toggle is not there so that variant cannot be rooted (no USA variants can at the moment).
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For realsies? none of the "U" Variant... So I cant root my note 10+ SM-N975U? Dang that really grinds my gears!!!!!!!!
Leave it to samsung to figure out a new way to keep people from rooting their phones... "Hey lets get rid of the OEM unlock toggle, that way they cant unlock the bootloader and root their phone, and will have to keep all the bloatware we, and their carrier, force down their throats against their will, whether they want to or not."
I knew I never should have bought this phone. I swore 6 years ago I would never own another Samsung Device, but then they came out with this cool new phone and I wanted it so bad. I should have just waited until the pixel 4 XL came out and bought it instead.
Guess I'll Know better next time around at least, and by the time I need a new phone hopefully all phones will have the inscreen ultrasonic fingerprint reader.
I HATE YOU SAMSUNG!!!!!!!!

1. You could have informed yourself prior to buying, it is common knowledge US SD-models have locked bootloader and cannot be rooted...
2. It is merely a US-provider requirement to have locked bootloader, not Samsung's choice. Note 10/10+ is rootable in most other parts of the world..

OnnoJ said:
1. You could have informed yourself prior to buying, it is common knowledge US SD-models have locked bootloader and cannot be rooted...
2. It is merely a US-provider requirement to have locked bootloader, not Samsung's choice. Note 10/10+ is rootable in most other parts of the world..
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What do u mean SD Models? Also if it's a us provider requirement then how come you can buy phones that have the OEM unlock option available on them?
Also this page is the first I even heard of it... Every time I search it shows that 7 days after you activate it the OEM unlock shows up. And on top of that just because it's not rootable at the time of purchase doesn't mean somewhere down the line someone won't figure out how to.
In fact my last phone was sold by a carrier, as carrier unlocked, and it had the bootloader toggle on it as well which made rooting a breeze.
I'm sorry but I don't agree with you... It has nothing to do with carriers, it's Samsung who has removed this feature not carriers. This is actually the first phone I've heard of that has the oem bootloader removed from the android software.
And besides that if you buy the carrier unlocked version of the note 10+ it should be your choice what you do with it not carriers and not manufactures.
Oh also I found an article (link below) Where someone managed to root the note 10+ SM-N975U with a patched boot image, which I would assume would also work for SM-N975U1 as well.
So like I said it's only a matter of time before someone figured out how to root it anyway. And my post was me griping at Samsung for doing what they did, and staying if I had waited I could have gotten a device that is made by a company that isn't actively trying to thwart rooting.
Link: http://androidbiits.com/root-samsung-galaxy-note-10-plus-sm-n975u-sm-n975u1-easily/

SD=Snapdragon, the SoC of the N975U/N975U1 phones. Those devices for US market have the locked bootloader.
The models with Exynos SoC (Samsung's own SoC), in models of most international markets N975F have working OEM unlock option and thereby unlockable bootloader.
Why would Samsung provide unlockable bootloader for one part of the world, but not for US where phones have US SoC (I.c. Snapdragon)? You tell me...
Maybe you can join this club: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10+/how-to/bounty-sm-n975u1-note-10-usa-unlocked-t4006249

gkennedy88 said:
What do u mean SD Models? Also if it's a us provider requirement then how come you can buy phones that have the OEM unlock option available on them?
Also this page is the first I even heard of it... Every time I search it shows that 7 days after you activate it the OEM unlock shows up. And on top of that just because it's not rootable at the time of purchase doesn't mean somewhere down the line someone won't figure out how to.
In fact my last phone was sold by a carrier, as carrier unlocked, and it had the bootloader toggle on it as well which made rooting a breeze.
I'm sorry but I don't agree with you... It has nothing to do with carriers, it's Samsung who has removed this feature not carriers. This is actually the first phone I've heard of that has the oem bootloader removed from the android software.
And besides that if you buy the carrier unlocked version of the note 10+ it should be your choice what you do with it not carriers and not manufactures.
Oh also I found an article (link below) Where someone managed to root the note 10+ SM-N975U with a patched boot image, which I would assume would also work for SM-N975U1 as well.
So like I said it's only a matter of time before someone figured out how to root it anyway. And my post was me griping at Samsung for doing what they did, and staying if I had waited I could have gotten a device that is made by a company that isn't actively trying to thwart rooting.
Link: http://androidbiits.com/root-samsung-galaxy-note-10-plus-sm-n975u-sm-n975u1-easily/
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lol they sure get a lot of clicks with that fake news

try setting a lock. i've had this same issue and thats what worked for me. Although when i unlock and root, it factory reset which sucked.

OnnoJ said:
1. You could have informed yourself prior to buying, it is common knowledge US SD-models have locked bootloader and cannot be rooted...
2. It is merely a US-provider requirement to have locked bootloader, not Samsung's choice. Note 10/10+ is rootable in most other parts of the world..
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Well why not do a oneplus/google thing where unlocked versions have unlockable bootloaders while carrier versions don't?

Note 10+ Snapdragon
It is a nice device stock, after flashing the N975U1 firmware with ODIN, and disabling (at least), about 150 system-apps with ADB, it is fast and efficient.
I can't imagine how nice the Note 10+ would be with administrative rights.