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Hi there, i opened this thread because i'm desperately trying to find a ROM/kernel which meets my needs.
I'm looking for:
Stability; Bugfree; Battery; Audio; these are my primary objectives (i'd like to have some customization option but i don't care as long as i have those)
I've tried so far:
Stock ROM with Franco.Kernel + LOUDERmod: PRO: Fantastic Battery
BAD: It had some bugs (WiFi disconnecting and then stuck into a loop searching for AP reboot needed) and the volume did not increase; So i flashed another rom right away.
Minco v4: PRO: Fantastic Battery life, fantastic audio
BAD: Same bug as the franco.Kernel, audio stop working while listen to music or youtube or other stuff while the 3,5mm jack is connected (tested on another galaxy nexus with different headphones same problem)
Codename Android: PRO: Fantastic Battery life, nice audio, quite stable, nice features.
BAD: Same bug on WiFi as the previous ones, after 2 weeks apps were crashing randomly so i got sick of the WiFi problem and flashed another rom;
Paranoid Android: PRO: Nice Battery life, nice audio, stable, very good features;
BAD: First ROM without the damned WiFi bug, a nice rom indeed. There are some bugs though and the "Per APP color" System slowed my nexus a lot. I kept it 'till a week ago when i flashed a cyano nightly
Cyanogen MOD: PRO: nice audio, stable, bug free, so much features that i'm still discovering things after a week.
BAD: Battery life. I need it for work.
I need some advices. I need a ROM (or the stock with a kernel) that i can keep for long times... the stock rom is nice, but battery life and audio suck.
I've had little to no problems with Air Kernel Weeklys, Glados v2.1 is also a very good kernel. I've had problems with Franco, Zen Kernel, Tuna and Nyan. Air Kernel is my daily driver, gonna give Ink a try. No roms are trouble free, I'm on a VZW Nexus and have had good luck with Alien rom, Factory 2.2 and now Atom.
t1.8matt said:
I've had little to no problems with Air Kernel Weeklys, Glados v2.1 is also a very good kernel. I've had problems with Franco, Zen Kernel, Tuna and Nyan. Air Kernel is my daily driver, gonna give Ink a try. No roms are trouble free, I'm on a VZW Nexus and have had good luck with Alien rom, Factory 2.2 and now Atom.
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Thanks for the advices, i think INK will be my first try because i'm italian myself, if i get any problems i'll update this post with my experience
Yeah, I tried ink last night with atom ROM and it didn't boot.
Team EOS.
Flash the latest from here http://goo.im/devs/teameos/roms/eos3/nightlies/maguro/ and Gapps. Best experience I've had. it's unique, and smooth as you like. I get a whole day's normal use out of the battery as well (on 3G during the day at work).
I tried so many ROMs but never found a good/not buggy/non laggy one
I want a stable rom and a radio (not one using internet) that doesn't sound like a tv with no antena (spirit fm)
Also i'm asking for an improved rom not an official gingerbread version, please don't suggest this
Thx
Interesting. You could try AOSP ICS from MoltenMotherBoard team or Maclaw version , both you find in development section , them being release canditates and all are a whole lot of bugfree , well for me at least . As for the AM/FM radio i`m curios of an answer myself , maybe someone can enlighten us with a good one
Well, i have tried several cm 9, 10, 10.1 roms and all have their fair share of bugs.. most notably the very low speed with usb transfer, lag in certain scenarios, problems with s2ext or symlinks apps, some have problems with big screen callers, and so on..and i too am very annoyed by lack of radio (spirit fm sucks).. i can recommend you the current rom i am using which is absolutely bug-free once you get it going: cm 7.2 based JellyBread .. from my experience i can tell you that it is:
-lag free, with smartass v2 governor.. especially when waking up the phone after some idle time, other roms (lilke oldroid`s) take some 3-4-5 annoying seconds to wake up and go full speed.. in jellybread is absolutely instantly responding, which for me matters
- usb transfer works at it should..i have 4 class memory card and it is writing at 4 mb/s.. most other roms provided me with 1-1,5 mb/s,, i am talking about formated card with 2 part, one fat32 and one ext2
- wifi has some hiccups, that is transferring a video of 300 mb between my laptop and phone works like this: 1 mb/s for some10 seconds, then drops to zero for 1-2-3 seconds, then again pumps up to 1 mb and so on, like a roller-coaster.. but this happened on ALL roms i ever tried, and in others it was much worse than this.
- it has included fm air radio, and it works fine (but dont have your earphones plugged in-ear when turning the radio on, it is going LOUD for 1 second)
- it is looking great, jellybean like-ish (see for yourself in pictures), smooth animations and everything.. ofc, it is not jellybean, so the visuals when scrolling and such are not as crisp, cm 7.2 lack the tehnology ..but the menus, fade in- fade out and everything, are jb-like, much more nicer than old gingebread, while the performance is the good ol` 2.6.3.7-ish.. a fair trade i`d say
- my battery lasts 3 days easily, with some 2 hours of usage (screen on) during this time..if i turn of background data and stuff, i make it to 5 days of standy (true, very little usage, just some calls during that time, but still)
- s2ext is working fine..which is important..
Apart from JellyBread which i strongly recommend if you want stability and also native radio, as i said Olddroid`s rom which is genuine jellybean is pretty good and almost stable.. once you got it to woke up it works, just some bugs with some specific apps like custom call screen and custom sms handler which were force closing, but definitely much better than the total mess 6 months ago when all these ics/jb roms were virtually unusable.. i remember in august-september i was on an ics rom which was draining the battery from 100 to 0 in under 2 hours, whit screen of i do hope that maybe this summer there will be a stable, bug-free, lag-free jellybean based rom for gio..i intend to give it to my girlfriend when upgrading But for now, I stick with Jellybread
but JELLY BREAD has a problem with lucky patcher.
currently im using AOKP milestone 6 CM9
for me its a great ROM, NEVER had even a SINGLE random reboot, just a few bugs oh and cronmod a2sd++ works just fine
camcorder not working using stock camera app (you can use videoillusion)
usb tethering not working for me (you can use other tethering app)
no FM radio player
well thats the only thing thats bugging me with the ROM, but this is the ROM that still impressed me the most till now
hi all.
tried a few aosp roms. all great. just some annoying random reboots. im not a heavy customizer. i just like the feel of vanilla android. and also i like smaller dpi settings. currently running ptmr3's jedi rom. excellent rom, havent experienced any reboots. though its a nice rom, i like aosp roms. any out there without random reboots?
also with the kitkat update our note3 is getting, will future roms be more random reboots less or none at all? im suppose to meet someone this coming wednesday to trade my note3 for his nexus5. or should i wait til new roms are cooked up based on the kitkat update for better aosp roms?
also trying to figure out how to remove this damn widget on lockscreen. cant seem to get rid of it.
thanks all
simpl3lang said:
hi all.
tried a few aosp roms. all great. just some annoying random reboots. im not a heavy customizer. i just like the feel of vanilla android. and also i like smaller dpi settings. currently running ptmr3's jedi rom. excellent rom, havent experienced any reboots. though its a nice rom, i like aosp roms. any out there without random reboots?
also with the kitkat update our note3 is getting, will future roms be more random reboots less or none at all? im suppose to meet someone this coming wednesday to trade my note3 for his nexus5. or should i wait til new roms are cooked up based on the kitkat update for better aosp roms?
also trying to figure out how to remove this damn widget on lockscreen. cant seem to get rid of it.
thanks all
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I've been on the unified Note3 CM11 builds and have been enjoying them quite a bit. The only reboots (and lockups) I got were from tweaking my CPU settings...apparently the only parameter that was pissing my phone off was the conservative governor. Also clk_min won't stay at the floor...but aside from slightly compromised battery life CM11 has been near perfect. I'll take the very slight battery life reduction for AOSP...also, the ART runtime is wayyyyyy better than Dalvik. Worth it for that alone. I just enabled that "for good" today but I already expect enough battery life savings to make up the difference (which was admittedly small).
Performance is top notch (even when underclocked to 960mHz), the ART runtime seems to make scrolling, chrome, maps and all around navigation snappy as hell...and I don't have to deal with TWiz. To each their own, touchwiz ain't for me. All the important stuff appears to work (LTE, WiFi, Bluetooth, camera, 1080p video recording...I can't even remember the things I used to worry about...everything works fine, even the 'settings bug' is resolved now...)
YMMV, of course.
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I've been on the unified Note3 CM11 builds and have been enjoying them quite a bit. The only reboots (and lockups) I got were from tweaking my CPU settings...apparently the only parameter that was pissing my phone off was the conservative governor. Also clk_min won't stay at the floor...but aside from slightly compromised battery life CM11 has been near perfect. I'll take the very slight battery life reduction for AOSP...also, the ART runtime is wayyyyyy better than Dalvik. Worth it for that alone. I just enabled that "for good" today but I already expect enough battery life savings to make up the difference (which was admittedly small).
Performance is top notch (even when underclocked to 960mHz), the ART runtime seems to make scrolling, chrome, maps and all around navigation snappy as hell...and I don't have to deal with TWiz. To each their own, touchwiz ain't for me. All the important stuff appears to work (LTE, WiFi, Bluetooth, camera, 1080p video recording...I can't even remember the things I used to worry about...everything works fine, even the 'settings bug' is resolved now...)
YMMV, of course.
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Thanks. I will try it out after i play around with gummy. Yah im not a fan of touchwiz either. How do i enable ART? i have never tinkered with that. Also regarding cpu tweaking. I dont really bother with that and i still get reboots and lock ups. Most times i just leave the kernel that came with the rom alone and not change it.
im a flashoholic. & i truley hate touchwiz roms. but ive been a week on AOSB v1.30 (longest ive ever stayed on one rom lol) its smooth & zippy, it has some amazing battery life. also vanir isnt a bad rom.
also switching runtimes is available in developer options under "apps"
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im a flashoholic. & i truley hate touchwiz roms. but ive been a week on AOSB v1.30 (longest ive ever stayed on one rom lol) its smooth & zippy, it has some amazing battery life. also vanir isnt a bad rom.
also switching runtimes is available in developer options under "apps"
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thanks. i only had my tmo note3 for about two weeks now. the AOSB v1.30 is not on the TMOBILE NOTE 3 development threads (i did find it). are we allowed to use those roms for our tmo note3? is there anything special i need to do to install roms from there?
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thanks. i only had my tmo note3 for about two weeks now. the AOSB v1.30 is not on the TMOBILE NOTE 3 development threads (i did find it). are we allowed to use those roms for our tmo note3? is there anything special i need to do to install roms from there?
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The AOSB rom is a universal. Just flash rom + gApps & you're set to go!
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WOW. i think i just found me a stable rom to use. installed and been running this rom for more than an hour now with all my usual tweaks and apps installed. and so far no reboots. usually on other aosp rom, i would have had a few reboots already. this is awesooooome. well besides the fact that app settings (xposed) doesnt seem to work since temasek integrated his own lcd density changer on the settings menu. also he just announced yesterday that he is putting his development on hold (temporarily, hopefully). damn!
temasek's UNOFFICIAL CM11 BUILD
so far loving it. will update if any issues occur
peace
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WOW. i think i just found me a stable rom to use. installed and been running this rom for more than an hour now with all my usual tweaks and apps installed. and so far no reboots. usually on other aosp rom, i would have had a few reboots already. this is awesooooome. well besides the fact that app settings (xposed) doesnt seem to work since temasek integrated his own lcd density changer on the settings menu. also he just announced yesterday that he is putting his development on hold (temporarily, hopefully). damn!
temasek's UNOFFICIAL CM11 BUILD
so far loving it. will update if any issues occur
peace
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temesek is very nice work, glad to hear you found a rom!
We're all here because we want better roms than what our phones came with, upgraded roms etc. Idealy we'd want the most stable version with the last junk so it's the most responsive. As I upgraded more and more roms, I started to feel that the phone is showing it's age in processing power, and just like computers, you can't just install a newer stronger OS on older hardware, at some point you aren't gaining performance, you start to lose it because the hardware is struggling to keep up. I went from stock to 4.2 roms, then 4.4 roms, (pacman, mokee, CM, etc etc ). I eventually went back to 4.4 stock and it gave me the least trouble and quite snappy. Of course it had the OEM bloat from Verizon. Its been going strong for maybe a year, and now it too is starting to crash with a lot of bugs, probably from installing so many apps, but also I see a lot of built in apps taking up memory. So my main question is, if you still the Razr M and still using roms, what have you settled with ? What has been the most stable and fastest for you so far? For me so far it turned out to be the stock 4.4.2. So my options are to start over again with a fresh 4.4.2 or maybe a stripped 4.4.2, or one of the new 5.1 builds. I mainly use it for Navigation + music + calls, generally nav + music at the same time. Someone mentioned that CM12.1 couldn't handle that because of memory issues so that scared me off, but I love the CM12.1 on my galaxy tab pro. I do use the Bluetooth when im riding, and the camera from time to time, and the stock just had everything working.
If I can't find a stable build/rom, it might be time for me to move on to a newer quad core 2ghz + phone, browsing on the razer m is ok, but admittedly a little slow. The battery isn't what it used to, but it still gets through the day, and there are (albeit dodgy quality ) replacement batteries on amazon to hold out longer... The phone was basically free over 2 years ago, I've never been one to shell out $300 for a phone, but that oneplus one is mighty tempting to switch carriers for. ATT failed me on signal at this house so Verizon has been great, but i'd be willing to try tmobile if im forced to pick a new phone.
TLDR: Which rom has been the most stable for you ? ( rom name and build/version ).
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So my main question is, if you still the Razr M and still using roms, what have you settled with ? What has been the most stable and fastest for you so far?.
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Stock 4.1.2 (with uninstalled bloatware), as 4.4.2 has broken audio on (some?) Rev.B phones.
I have been on stock jelly bean, rooted stock kitkat (debloated with permissions removed for batt life), cm12.1 (our device is just too limited) and now cm11 snapshot 12 on kitkat boot loader. So far cm11 is my favorite.
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For me stock kitkat debloated runs smoother, although is very sluggish sometimes: for example when I'm swapping messenger, whatsapp and running music player at the same time, it's almost impossible...
Ice tested cm when was 5.0,and was terrible. Pac man Kk, not as good as stock.
Sorry for this ugly link, I'm on my phone, but this post and the thread overall has a lot of good tips:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53724034&postcount=17
In the last 2 and a half years I've been through:
Stock 4.1.2 (rooted after 1 day, debloated, Safestrap)
Eclipse Rom v1.2 (Safestrap)
CM10.1 (Unlocked BL)
CM10.2 (Unlocked BL)
CM11 (Unlocked BL, JB Kernel)
Stock 4.4.2 (rooted, debloated)
CM11 (Unlocked BL, KK Kernel)
CM12.1 (Unlocked BL, KK Kernel)
Best user experience for me? Sad to say but I had it with the Stock 4.1.2: overall smoother than all the rest. Then after some months my Razr M started a bootloop, so I unlocked the bootloader and tryed the CM ROM: the CM Power Widgets were an overkill at the time (mainly the 2G/3G toggle)...
After all the CM ROM that I've used, the second place goes to CM11 (with JB BL).
Right now I'm testing the latest CM12.1 builds, and they seems ok. I've installed onlyt the apps that are strictly necessary to me (gmail, maps, onenote, osmand, dropbox, wikipedia, Room Toolbox Pro, SuperSu, calendar, meteo, etc...). Everithing seems fine but I liked more the old KK style (lockscreen, quick settings). Everything is working, even if sometimes the data, Wifi and GPS signals are erratic. The performance are acceptable too.
So far a vote for CM11, and stock unlocked debloated. That's what i was heading towards too, stock debloat, and probably 4.1 it still has the best performance really. I mean the custom roms look great and all, but at the cost of performance which, after the initial wow factor, I think we would all prefer performance. Back when I had my HTC my favorite and most stable rom was jacko's most basic slim version ( he had like 1-5 tiers of peformance and features ). If I go back to stock and it lasts me another year or two i'll take it.
I'm trying out CM11 Snapshot 12 right now. I was already on 4.4.2 stock with unlocked kk bootloader so it made sense to try it first. Its already a lot smoother than what it was, freeing up half the memory. I noticed the dialer doesn't go all the way up sometimes, you have to push back and hit the keypad icon again. Otherwise very smooth so far. I'll report back after I get some use out of it and if I ever decide to go back to 4.1. I might need a new battery though, if I'm using it it doesn't last through a day.
*Update - I went from having basically no free memory left to about 50% free memory. I think my battery life increased dramatically with so much less running in the background. Maybe by 20-50%.
I took one phone call and updated a few apps, about mid day through the work day. was 12h by the end of the day and a few calls and some browsing w/o having to charge. Definitely gave new life to the phone. Very minor dialer bugs, sometimes the number pad doesn't come up correctly the first time.
Android 4.1 has various security issues that won't be fixed anymore, so that's not really an option.
But I don't think there are big differences in battery life anyway (see this).
After testing a lot of CM11, using Performance settings, changing memory settings, having a very poor battery performance, I've come back to the 4.4 backup with all the apps I had. The difference was incredible, now my phone feels snappier than an iPhone, and sincerely, i don't know why!! I think that doing a restore sometimes can help a lot.
Yeah the last time I did a fresh install of 4.4.2 stock it was great. After a while though with all my apps installed + the oem bloat the phone had very little memory left and became sluggish. My best options right now seem like going back to stock, either 4.1 or 4.4 and trying to do manual debloat.
I did a fresh install of CM11 again but still didn't fix it. I still had the occasional dialer error and wifi would only work upon boot, after disabling, it never reconnects to any wifi. Battery was still horrible. I went back to stock 4.4.2. RSlite would not work on any version on windows 8.1 64 bit. I had to do msfastbootv2 and was able to restore to stock 4.4.2 However upon booting, it wanted to update to 183.84.15 but failing. It would say there's an update, download it, reboot, and automatically boot into recovery. I would select reboot and it boots in, sometimes saying update complete but it hasnt' actually updated anything. I eventually gave up and started over, this time using stock recovery, not logging into my google account so it doesn't start downloading all my apps, no supersu, no gapps, and it successfully updated to 183.81.15. At that point using mfastbootv2 I installed twrp 2.8.5, rebooted into recovery, installed gapps and supersu. Then used titan to debloat using http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-razr-m/general/complete-debloat-list-droid-razr-m-t3045731 , removed most of the things on that list, particularly anything I didn't use that I saw running. I also installed Greenify. After about a day I started noticing the google play services issue using a majority of my battery. I downloaded App Ops to disable google play services wake permissions. I am amazed at what happened. I feel like I have the original batteries back. I received 2-3 short calls today, and 2 browsing sessions, installed some apps (facebook lite), and I still have a lot of battery left, normally it would be over half gone. Going home after that much use and still having over 70% of battery left is nothing short of amazing and I no longer feel like getting a new phone. I was very close to trying the Droid Turbo.
TLDR: Got original usage/battery back with stock 4.4.2 + debloat (backup & Uninstall with titanium ) + App ops to fix google services wake battery drain + Greenify. I don't know how much Greenify is doing, I attribute most of my gains from debloat + fixing the google services issue. Before App Ops you'd see a giant bar at the top of Google Services instead of screen.
Still odd you having WiFi issues. I don't I did learn recently that my Bluetooth does not seem to be fully functional.
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So far, all I've tried (and stuck with) are stock 4.1, stock 4.4.2, and CM 12/12.1.
Stock ROMs were fairly snappy, but I was always a little fearful (irrationally, but still) of trying to debloat while on 4.4 (and I remain fearful of downgrading the bootloader). This is my daily driver, though, and it must remain so until I become eligible for a newer phone in December (or I can pick up something better, used, for extremely cheap ...).
I have been toughing it out on CM 12 since late January. I like several of Lollipop's UI changes and new features (as well as CM's additions over stock), so despite some frustrations with bugs and somewhat-laggy performance, I haven't felt terribly compelled to try CM 11, or to go back to stock 4.4.2. (At least, not all the time; there have been moments of extremely slow response times where I've wanted to wipe /system right then and there and flash CM 11. I have stuck with 12 so far in hopes of improvements on the way to the first snapshot.)
Also, vo_danh, I was the one who reported about the issue with simultaneously running Maps and Play Music. I don't think I've ever gotten a phone call while trying to run those, but suffice to say that I have enough trouble with (occasional) lag when a call comes in.
If you're already on the kk boot loader like me, you don't need to downgrade the boot loader for cm11. Its been almost a week and i am still just amazed at how well this config is working for me. The battery life is like new again. Don't be afraid of debloating with titanium, since you can back it up first before unisntalling, if anything goes wrong, simply reinstall the backup. As a safety, after I restored to stock 4.4.2, updated to 183.84.15 OTA, I created a TWRP backup, so if anything goes wrong I can just restore it with TWRP instead of doing through all the steps to go back to stock. I didn't remove everything that was on that debloat list, just most things from verizon or anything I raw under 'running' list that I didn't need. It's so stable and fast. I would only move to a stock + debloat rom now for this phone for now. If I had a stronger phone there's no doubt i'd be using Cm12.1 but for now, this phone isn't meant to handle it smoothly and the wifi issues i had with Cm11 just make it not worth it. All wifi issues are gone now on stock. I didn't have wifi issues on any of the other roms either.
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We're all here because we want better roms than what our phones came with...
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1. One that the phone came with, with a little tweaking. 4.1.2 deodexed and debloated. Best usability and battery life. Slows down with heavy games tho so i unlocked the BL.
2. KK debloated. 4.4.2 i think. better in many respects but I sorely miss the Jb camera. It was wonderful. Battery life had come down a couple of notches.
3. Currently running the Bliss rom (5.1). My earpiece and mic doesn't work with the latest update. lol.
Edit: Call issues in the Bliss rom have been fixed. It's a solid rom and deserves a strong recommendation.
For those who tried them, which works better overall?
Do both have the Stagefright fix?
Does compass work on any of them?
Anything else that doesn't work on CM?
BTW, I have a GT-I9195
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For those who tried them, which works better overall?
Do both have the Stagefright fix?
Does compass work on any of them?
Anything else that doesn't work on CM?
BTW, I have a GT-I9195
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Both work pretty much the same, though CM11 is probably that tiny bit more stable, bit faster, but more battery friendly. Lollipop has its bugs but "some" people don't seem to suffer the same bugs as others. It's still heavily in development but may work fine for you.
Compass was supposedly fixed in the latest build CM11 and also has latest stage fright fix. Think Lollipops compass works as I haven't seen any complaints, and as long as your using one of the latest builds should also have stage fright fixes.
Personally I'm a fan of CM11 but I use debloated stock as it has the original camera drivers. Just don't like the camera quality on custom builds. Though it's not terrible on either of them. Also some apps for me work better on stock.
In the mean time I installed 12.1.
Compass does not work.
The rest seems to work alright, but it's too early to say. I did have a couple of crashes, but not of the system itself. When I played music from two apps at once AudioFX crashed. And "Trebuchet" crashed once, don't remember how.
GPS might be taking a bit longer to get a fix than with stock, but I'm not sure.
Well, at least I hope to avoid the idle battery drain that I got on stock.
Overall the system seems fast enough, but the "fade to dark" effect after some idle time (and back to bright) is pretty choppy/slow. Not sure if that's intended or not.
Have you tried the kernel by SilviuMik for stock ROMS? Is meant to have battery fixes for standby. Though I have never suffered bad standby times, I do like this kernel.
Hi !
Yes...in reality ,objectively , there are only cm11(last release on 01/09/2015) and stocks who work fine .
At this time ,all Lollipop customs are not stable at all for daily use because umpredictables behaviors (maybe it work fine for some members but thes roms may have dysfunctions suddently with "majors big buggs)
With news big security problems ,all JB & KK customs roms are totaly "obsolete" (it's a pity because kk slim , pacman... work fine!) ,they are unusable because not secure...
-The best choice for a good daily use is a stock rom (or STE by ploiki ! Great buid !) with alexax's 0.9 kernel !!! Lighten by own debloating ...:good:
Good baterry life and good choice of parameters with "aduitor kernel"
And stock camera is good..
N5 foyr mini &S6 lollipop project seem good according to some members but i personnaly have had some problem...
-Second choice with cm11 but it's necessary to love customs and it need to replace some "poor" cm stock apps (camera...etc...)
I test the last release now but with recomended parameters , i generaly have found that the battery life is not as good as stock firmware kk&alexax kernel
I found cm11 more stable