We're all here because we want better roms than what our phones came with, upgraded roms etc. Idealy we'd want the most stable version with the last junk so it's the most responsive. As I upgraded more and more roms, I started to feel that the phone is showing it's age in processing power, and just like computers, you can't just install a newer stronger OS on older hardware, at some point you aren't gaining performance, you start to lose it because the hardware is struggling to keep up. I went from stock to 4.2 roms, then 4.4 roms, (pacman, mokee, CM, etc etc ). I eventually went back to 4.4 stock and it gave me the least trouble and quite snappy. Of course it had the OEM bloat from Verizon. Its been going strong for maybe a year, and now it too is starting to crash with a lot of bugs, probably from installing so many apps, but also I see a lot of built in apps taking up memory. So my main question is, if you still the Razr M and still using roms, what have you settled with ? What has been the most stable and fastest for you so far? For me so far it turned out to be the stock 4.4.2. So my options are to start over again with a fresh 4.4.2 or maybe a stripped 4.4.2, or one of the new 5.1 builds. I mainly use it for Navigation + music + calls, generally nav + music at the same time. Someone mentioned that CM12.1 couldn't handle that because of memory issues so that scared me off, but I love the CM12.1 on my galaxy tab pro. I do use the Bluetooth when im riding, and the camera from time to time, and the stock just had everything working.
If I can't find a stable build/rom, it might be time for me to move on to a newer quad core 2ghz + phone, browsing on the razer m is ok, but admittedly a little slow. The battery isn't what it used to, but it still gets through the day, and there are (albeit dodgy quality ) replacement batteries on amazon to hold out longer... The phone was basically free over 2 years ago, I've never been one to shell out $300 for a phone, but that oneplus one is mighty tempting to switch carriers for. ATT failed me on signal at this house so Verizon has been great, but i'd be willing to try tmobile if im forced to pick a new phone.
TLDR: Which rom has been the most stable for you ? ( rom name and build/version ).
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So my main question is, if you still the Razr M and still using roms, what have you settled with ? What has been the most stable and fastest for you so far?.
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Stock 4.1.2 (with uninstalled bloatware), as 4.4.2 has broken audio on (some?) Rev.B phones.
I have been on stock jelly bean, rooted stock kitkat (debloated with permissions removed for batt life), cm12.1 (our device is just too limited) and now cm11 snapshot 12 on kitkat boot loader. So far cm11 is my favorite.
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For me stock kitkat debloated runs smoother, although is very sluggish sometimes: for example when I'm swapping messenger, whatsapp and running music player at the same time, it's almost impossible...
Ice tested cm when was 5.0,and was terrible. Pac man Kk, not as good as stock.
Sorry for this ugly link, I'm on my phone, but this post and the thread overall has a lot of good tips:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53724034&postcount=17
In the last 2 and a half years I've been through:
Stock 4.1.2 (rooted after 1 day, debloated, Safestrap)
Eclipse Rom v1.2 (Safestrap)
CM10.1 (Unlocked BL)
CM10.2 (Unlocked BL)
CM11 (Unlocked BL, JB Kernel)
Stock 4.4.2 (rooted, debloated)
CM11 (Unlocked BL, KK Kernel)
CM12.1 (Unlocked BL, KK Kernel)
Best user experience for me? Sad to say but I had it with the Stock 4.1.2: overall smoother than all the rest. Then after some months my Razr M started a bootloop, so I unlocked the bootloader and tryed the CM ROM: the CM Power Widgets were an overkill at the time (mainly the 2G/3G toggle)...
After all the CM ROM that I've used, the second place goes to CM11 (with JB BL).
Right now I'm testing the latest CM12.1 builds, and they seems ok. I've installed onlyt the apps that are strictly necessary to me (gmail, maps, onenote, osmand, dropbox, wikipedia, Room Toolbox Pro, SuperSu, calendar, meteo, etc...). Everithing seems fine but I liked more the old KK style (lockscreen, quick settings). Everything is working, even if sometimes the data, Wifi and GPS signals are erratic. The performance are acceptable too.
So far a vote for CM11, and stock unlocked debloated. That's what i was heading towards too, stock debloat, and probably 4.1 it still has the best performance really. I mean the custom roms look great and all, but at the cost of performance which, after the initial wow factor, I think we would all prefer performance. Back when I had my HTC my favorite and most stable rom was jacko's most basic slim version ( he had like 1-5 tiers of peformance and features ). If I go back to stock and it lasts me another year or two i'll take it.
I'm trying out CM11 Snapshot 12 right now. I was already on 4.4.2 stock with unlocked kk bootloader so it made sense to try it first. Its already a lot smoother than what it was, freeing up half the memory. I noticed the dialer doesn't go all the way up sometimes, you have to push back and hit the keypad icon again. Otherwise very smooth so far. I'll report back after I get some use out of it and if I ever decide to go back to 4.1. I might need a new battery though, if I'm using it it doesn't last through a day.
*Update - I went from having basically no free memory left to about 50% free memory. I think my battery life increased dramatically with so much less running in the background. Maybe by 20-50%.
I took one phone call and updated a few apps, about mid day through the work day. was 12h by the end of the day and a few calls and some browsing w/o having to charge. Definitely gave new life to the phone. Very minor dialer bugs, sometimes the number pad doesn't come up correctly the first time.
Android 4.1 has various security issues that won't be fixed anymore, so that's not really an option.
But I don't think there are big differences in battery life anyway (see this).
After testing a lot of CM11, using Performance settings, changing memory settings, having a very poor battery performance, I've come back to the 4.4 backup with all the apps I had. The difference was incredible, now my phone feels snappier than an iPhone, and sincerely, i don't know why!! I think that doing a restore sometimes can help a lot.
Yeah the last time I did a fresh install of 4.4.2 stock it was great. After a while though with all my apps installed + the oem bloat the phone had very little memory left and became sluggish. My best options right now seem like going back to stock, either 4.1 or 4.4 and trying to do manual debloat.
I did a fresh install of CM11 again but still didn't fix it. I still had the occasional dialer error and wifi would only work upon boot, after disabling, it never reconnects to any wifi. Battery was still horrible. I went back to stock 4.4.2. RSlite would not work on any version on windows 8.1 64 bit. I had to do msfastbootv2 and was able to restore to stock 4.4.2 However upon booting, it wanted to update to 183.84.15 but failing. It would say there's an update, download it, reboot, and automatically boot into recovery. I would select reboot and it boots in, sometimes saying update complete but it hasnt' actually updated anything. I eventually gave up and started over, this time using stock recovery, not logging into my google account so it doesn't start downloading all my apps, no supersu, no gapps, and it successfully updated to 183.81.15. At that point using mfastbootv2 I installed twrp 2.8.5, rebooted into recovery, installed gapps and supersu. Then used titan to debloat using http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-razr-m/general/complete-debloat-list-droid-razr-m-t3045731 , removed most of the things on that list, particularly anything I didn't use that I saw running. I also installed Greenify. After about a day I started noticing the google play services issue using a majority of my battery. I downloaded App Ops to disable google play services wake permissions. I am amazed at what happened. I feel like I have the original batteries back. I received 2-3 short calls today, and 2 browsing sessions, installed some apps (facebook lite), and I still have a lot of battery left, normally it would be over half gone. Going home after that much use and still having over 70% of battery left is nothing short of amazing and I no longer feel like getting a new phone. I was very close to trying the Droid Turbo.
TLDR: Got original usage/battery back with stock 4.4.2 + debloat (backup & Uninstall with titanium ) + App ops to fix google services wake battery drain + Greenify. I don't know how much Greenify is doing, I attribute most of my gains from debloat + fixing the google services issue. Before App Ops you'd see a giant bar at the top of Google Services instead of screen.
Still odd you having WiFi issues. I don't I did learn recently that my Bluetooth does not seem to be fully functional.
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So far, all I've tried (and stuck with) are stock 4.1, stock 4.4.2, and CM 12/12.1.
Stock ROMs were fairly snappy, but I was always a little fearful (irrationally, but still) of trying to debloat while on 4.4 (and I remain fearful of downgrading the bootloader). This is my daily driver, though, and it must remain so until I become eligible for a newer phone in December (or I can pick up something better, used, for extremely cheap ...).
I have been toughing it out on CM 12 since late January. I like several of Lollipop's UI changes and new features (as well as CM's additions over stock), so despite some frustrations with bugs and somewhat-laggy performance, I haven't felt terribly compelled to try CM 11, or to go back to stock 4.4.2. (At least, not all the time; there have been moments of extremely slow response times where I've wanted to wipe /system right then and there and flash CM 11. I have stuck with 12 so far in hopes of improvements on the way to the first snapshot.)
Also, vo_danh, I was the one who reported about the issue with simultaneously running Maps and Play Music. I don't think I've ever gotten a phone call while trying to run those, but suffice to say that I have enough trouble with (occasional) lag when a call comes in.
If you're already on the kk boot loader like me, you don't need to downgrade the boot loader for cm11. Its been almost a week and i am still just amazed at how well this config is working for me. The battery life is like new again. Don't be afraid of debloating with titanium, since you can back it up first before unisntalling, if anything goes wrong, simply reinstall the backup. As a safety, after I restored to stock 4.4.2, updated to 183.84.15 OTA, I created a TWRP backup, so if anything goes wrong I can just restore it with TWRP instead of doing through all the steps to go back to stock. I didn't remove everything that was on that debloat list, just most things from verizon or anything I raw under 'running' list that I didn't need. It's so stable and fast. I would only move to a stock + debloat rom now for this phone for now. If I had a stronger phone there's no doubt i'd be using Cm12.1 but for now, this phone isn't meant to handle it smoothly and the wifi issues i had with Cm11 just make it not worth it. All wifi issues are gone now on stock. I didn't have wifi issues on any of the other roms either.
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1. One that the phone came with, with a little tweaking. 4.1.2 deodexed and debloated. Best usability and battery life. Slows down with heavy games tho so i unlocked the BL.
2. KK debloated. 4.4.2 i think. better in many respects but I sorely miss the Jb camera. It was wonderful. Battery life had come down a couple of notches.
3. Currently running the Bliss rom (5.1). My earpiece and mic doesn't work with the latest update. lol.
Edit: Call issues in the Bliss rom have been fixed. It's a solid rom and deserves a strong recommendation.
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Hi to all of you. I recently did buy a LG G3 with KitKat 4.4.2. Phone is awesome, battery lasts a lot for this screen over a day and a half (medium usage), without lagginess, maybe after restart it takes about 1 second to find everything but generally i am very happy with my purchcase. I have some questions though. Recently i got a OTA update about sth vcalled 20e. Its an update ~555mb and after some search i found out that this is the Lollipop official firmware. After plugging my phone into the LG PC Suite, i found out that even a newer version is available the 20f firmware ~over 1gb. Here starts my questions. Is it worth to go from kitkat to jellybean? Or is it better to stick with kitkat until they fix all the bugs i found out on forums. (So far i saw battery doesnt last so long, wireless charging has problems, lte doesnt work on most devices, others said about lagginess, most apps do not work with the new ART system). So what are your thoughts about this? Also i want to remove some google apps like google drive, and i want to remove this McAfee. Is there any possible way to do that easily without ruining my phone?
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Hi to all of you. I recently did buy a LG G3 with KitKat 4.4.2. Phone is awesome, battery lasts a lot for this screen over a day and a half (medium usage), without lagginess, maybe after restart it takes about 1 second to find everything but generally i am very happy with my purchcase. I have some questions though. Recently i got a OTA update about sth vcalled 20e. Its an update ~555mb and after some search i found out that this is the Lollipop official firmware. After plugging my phone into the LG PC Suite, i found out that even a newer version is available the 20f firmware ~over 1gb. Here starts my questions. Is it worth to go from kitkat to jellybean? Or is it better to stick with kitkat until they fix all the bugs i found out on forums. (So far i saw battery doesnt last so long, wireless charging has problems, lte doesnt work on most devices, others said about lagginess, most apps do not work with the new ART system). So what are your thoughts about this? Also i want to remove some google apps like google drive, and i want to remove this McAfee. Is there any possible way to do that easily without ruining my phone?
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Stay on 4.4.2. Most of your research is correct - 5.0 is laggy, drains battery faster, there is "while on wireless charger, screen turns itself on constanly after charge reached 100%" bug, etc.
No, on 5.0 you can delete mcafee only via code from their support. And there is no way to delete Gapps wout root, which can only be obtained by flashing prerooted rom.
About apps - 99.9% of apps do work with ART. However, some - like Webkit-based apps - do crash sometimes.
About lte - only affects people who bought phones that were intended for different region. Region can be changed, btw, so it's not a real problem - it's just a ton of n00bs whining about "bug" they brought on themselves.
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Stay on 4.4.2. Most of your research is correct - 5.0 is laggy, drains battery faster, there is "while on wireless charger, screen turns itself on constanly after charge reached 100%" bug, etc.
No, on 5.0 you can delete mcafee only via code from their support. And there is no way to delete Gapps wout root, which can only be obtained by flashing prerooted rom.
About apps - 99.9% of apps do work with ART. However, some - like Webkit-based apps - do crash sometimes.
About lte - only affects people who bought phones that were intended for different region. Region can be changed, btw, so it's not a real problem - it's just a ton of n00bs whining about "bug" they brought on themselves.
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So you propose to stick with KitKat 4.4.2 and wait a couple of months until Lollipop gets better?, because i also heard the new art system is faster and more reliable. And generally the Lollipop is meant to be faster than kitkat. If you all advise me so, i will keep this thread open so that i can reply back or even ask more when the time comes
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So you propose to stick with KitKat 4.4.2 and wait a couple of months until Lollipop gets better?, because i also heard the new art system is faster and more reliable. And generally the Lollipop is meant to be faster than kitkat. If you all advise me so, i will keep this thread open so that i can reply back or even ask more when the time comes
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Well, i do advise to stick to 4.4.2 until LG fixes 5.0. However, there are thousands of members on xda. You may want to hear other's opinions before deciding anything.
P.S.: ART is faster than dalvik, there is no compilation-in-runtime overhead.
I'd wait and see if it eventually gets to 5.0.2. In earlier versions of LP, there is a memory leak that causes the system to slow down after awhile. 5.0.2 apparently fixes this. However, I have 5.0.2 on my Nexus 7 tablet and after awhile, I still notice performance issues that require a reboot, so I don't know if they really have the memory leak fixed or not. That's a pretty nasty bug that needs to be fixed before I install it on this phone.
Currently, KK runs great. And, if you want the LP look, you can do a few things:
Install Nova launcher and switch to LP icons
Install Xposed (which won't work on LP) and there is an Xposed module to give you the LP nav bar icons
KK on this phone runs great for me. No issues and I have no reason to go to LP at this time. Until they get the memory leak fixed, no dice for me. I love having a phone that doesn't require a reboot.
Agreed with most of the above. I actually upgraded mine to Lollipop. The experience was horrific. I went back to Kitkat and absolutely have no issues with the phone. It's a dream compared to Lollipop.
I also rooted and use the Tweaksbox to add lollipop styling. I won't be moving to lollipop again any time soon.
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Hi to all of you. I recently did buy a LG G3 with KitKat 4.4.2. Phone is awesome, battery lasts a lot for this screen over a day and a half (medium usage), without lagginess, maybe after restart it takes about 1 second to find everything but generally i am very happy with my purchcase. I have some questions though. Recently i got a OTA update about sth vcalled 20e. Its an update ~555mb and after some search i found out that this is the Lollipop official firmware. After plugging my phone into the LG PC Suite, i found out that even a newer version is available the 20f firmware ~over 1gb. Here starts my questions. Is it worth to go from kitkat to jellybean? Or is it better to stick with kitkat until they fix all the bugs i found out on forums. (So far i saw battery doesnt last so long, wireless charging has problems, lte doesnt work on most devices, others said about lagginess, most apps do not work with the new ART system). So what are your thoughts about this? Also i want to remove some google apps like google drive, and i want to remove this McAfee. Is there any possible way to do that easily without ruining my phone?
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My advice is go for it. In my experience with the lollipop update all those little hick ups that appear occasionally (especially in animations and while pulling down notification bar) are gone. Lollipop is fluid and smooth, and rock stable. So far i haven't faced any FCs, glitches etc.. Everything is working fine (well, at least on my phone) and better than what it used to be on kitkat. Battery life is as good, if not even slightly better on lollipop.
I came from a nexus 5, and have been a nexus user for the last 3 generations, so i have high standards when it comes to lag and performance.
P.s. i have the 32gb/3gb RAM and i'm on stock firmware.
As an answer from LG Hellas, i got this: That the phone is working whole better and faster than kitkat (as lollipop), and that all errors are fixed. Also the lollipop update can use the whole processing power of the phone and as a result toghether with the art system, the phone is working better and faster with less battery drain than before. Also downgrading to their lg shops costs :/ . That was their answer to me.
I have a question for you guys. When i play a song sometimes particular songs show wrong album arts. And the correct are blurry. What size should i make them in order to show as good quality?
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Anything from 1000x1000 up to whatever you like you have some decent and good quality on any song. Because i found a problem and i think many of you out there have this problem as well. If some album arts display wrong, change that track's album to something.
Hey guys how are you doing?
I don't know if this is supposed to be normal but my Nexus is becoming really slow. I've compared it with my father's Samsung Galaxy Gio (yes, that damn piece of brick) running a port of CM10 called Xperia Jelly Bean with an overclock to 1GHz (without messing with the low freqs) and my Nexus running CM11 was slower in terms of opening the SMS app, the contacts, the settings and so on.
I've tried everything, wiping every partition in the phone and installing many roms (CM12, fresh's AOSP Lollipop, CM11, Vanir, LiquidSmooth, CarbonRom, SlimRom, etc) and I even tried different kernels (DirtyV, Fancy and Franco for KK roms and BSmitty's kernel for L) but my perfomance goes from bad to even worse.
Most roms come with many apps I don't use like apollo, stock camera, stock messaging, aosp email app, lancher3 or trebuchet (I like google now but I tested not changing the launcher and it's about the same performance) and the default browser app, so I usually delete them with titanium backup.
I heard some weird sounds when I was with lollipop roms that worried me since I've never heard those sounds (looked like something tiny blowing up) so I am a little worried that those things caused some hardware to start malfunctioning or even stopped working. I am also having now troube with flashing a rom and it being stable. I usually wipe all the partitions, install ROM then Gapps (the most minimal ones) and then Kernel, wipe Cache again, reboot. Set everything (Gmail account and custom rom things like notification bar, locksreen, etc), reinstall the apps I need from google play, change to ART if needed/avaiable and go on. But sometime later the phone starts freezing and ends up turning off and when it turns on it stucks on the boot so I need to reinstall the rom.
What am I doing wrong? What can cause my device to behave like this? Is it a likely end of my device? I am worried and have little knowledge xd. Should I flash a stock rom? Which version is the more appropriate? What do you recommend for custom ROM, am I flashing them and applying everything alright?
EDIT: I forgot to mention that I did some benchmark tests and it does well as espected. Goes up to 20K with Lollipop, 15K with KitKat (1.5GHz) and 13-14K with KitKat (1.2GHz). I've tested it in FML 5.0.2 (last build) + Bsmitty kernel (about 2 weeks ago) and the KK ones I did yesterday with CM11 and fancy r60. The problem here is the menus that are freezing constantly and the basic apps that take too much time to load when compared to the time I bought it (I'm talking about Settings, Camera, Messaging, Dialer, Contacts, etc)
I feel the same way about my phone too! Btw, is installing new app on your phone slow? My phone takes about 15-20 secs to install an app.
I am by no means an expert, but the "weird sounds / stability of ROM flashing / constant freezing" that you're reporting, regardless of the ROMs that you're using, it sounds like your device may be on its last legs. How long have you had the device? Is it possible that some of your hardware components are failing?
In my own Gnex experience, I was using CM11 Snapshot ROMs for about a year. About 6 months after installing CM11, I started noticing massive slowdown and lagging. Similar to what you reported: slow launching of apps (even simple ones like the default SMS Messaging and Camera), freezing/crashing in Gmail and Chrome, very slow multitasking/tab/app switching, etc.
Google officially stopped supporting the Gnex at 4.3 so I would recommend that you try returning to the 4.3 Stock Nexus Image, and see if that improves your stability. I did that for my Gnex and installed the Xposed framework on top, and I've been happy with the results. I no longer use my Gnex as my daily phone so I can't speak to longer-term usage, but you may want to try this first before writing the device off entirely.
Well, after some time I finnaly put my phone working nicely again
I flashed and tried over and over again many combinations of rom, gapps and kernel until my phone worked nicely with something. I am with CM11 + PA Stock Gapps (with gapps-config.txt written of my own to avoid installing things I consider bloat) + Fancy Kernel (everything in their respective last versions).
Well, just an advice from me to anyone who starts having problems like me. If you are flashing much and testing many roms per day and your phone starts getting slow and not booting like it should boot (and having weird sounds) just stop for a while. Find a stable rom+kernel combination and let the phone work like that for some time. Then when you think you are ok, start flashing to your content again
I've had my M8 for about a year now and rooted it almost right away. I've been rooting my phones for years, since my HTC Incredible!
I've had about 4-5 different ROMs on my phone in this past year from CM to Revolution HD and Sky Dragon. But ALL of them seem to have the same issues. After a certain amount of time, maybe a week or maybe a month, they ALL start to get really, really laggy. I swear I've wiped and re-loaded my phone at least a dozen times so far!
For example, if I try to open Gmail or Chrome, it could take upwards of 5 seconds to actually pull up the program. Sometimes it's so bad, I have to force a reboot by holding power+volume up because the phone just won't respond to anything.
I've tried to go into apps and see the running programs, but most of the time either nothing special is running besides system type apps or it will just hang for minutes and I eventually force a reboot.
Am I the only one who is having such problems with these ROMs? Could I have gotten a bum phone? Is there some sort of diagnostics that I can run to make sure the CPU/Memory/etc. is working properly?
I'm at a loss right now. I nearly threw my phone across the room onto the concrete floor yesterday because it was so unusable all day.
Please help me figure out what's going on here, I'm at my wits end with this BS!
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I've had my M8 for about a year now and rooted it almost right away. I've been rooting my phones for years, since my HTC Incredible!
I've had about 4-5 different ROMs on my phone in this past year from CM to Revolution HD and Sky Dragon. But ALL of them seem to have the same issues. After a certain amount of time, maybe a week or maybe a month, they ALL start to get really, really laggy. I swear I've wiped and re-loaded my phone at least a dozen times so far!
For example, if I try to open Gmail or Chrome, it could take upwards of 5 seconds to actually pull up the program. Sometimes it's so bad, I have to force a reboot by holding power+volume up because the phone just won't respond to anything.
I've tried to go into apps and see the running programs, but most of the time either nothing special is running besides system type apps or it will just hang for minutes and I eventually force a reboot.
Am I the only one who is having such problems with these ROMs? Could I have gotten a bum phone? Is there some sort of diagnostics that I can run to make sure the CPU/Memory/etc. is working properly?
I'm at a loss right now. I nearly threw my phone across the room onto the concrete floor yesterday because it was so unusable all day.
Please help me figure out what's going on here, I'm at my wits end with this BS!
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Have you tried ViperOneM8?
The latest ROM (4.5.1) is a port of Sense 7 from the M9, but still has some small bugs to iron out. They are being addressed and will be fixed in the next update.
If you were to flash v4.3.0, you would get a stable ROM with lots of customizing options. It is Lollipop as well, but still on the official Sense 6 framework.
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Have you tried ViperOneM8?
The latest ROM (4.5.1) is a port of Sense 7 from the M9, but still has some small bugs to iron out. They are being addressed and will be fixed in the next update.
If you were to flash v4.3.0, you would get a stable ROM with lots of customizing options. It is Lollipop as well, but still on the official Sense 6 framework.
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Yep, tried that one. I think it was one of my first ones actually (I actually donated to it!). Ran that one for about 6 months before giving up and moving on.
Dirty Unicorns works well for me, I have never experienced lags but updates are always available so the longest DU rom that stayed on phone was about 3 weeks.
Latest current version is official v9.6 android 5.1.1
Also you could try fstrim app on your current rom.
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Dirty Unicorns works well for me, I have never experienced lags but updates are always available so the longest DU rom that stayed on phone was about 3 weeks.
Latest current version is official v9.6 android 5.1.1
Also you could try fstrim app on your current rom.
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Thanks, I'm running CM 12.1 right now and really don't want to install yet another ROM. I'm to the point that if this doesn't work I'll just bring it back to stock and suffer with that or buy a new [email protected] phone!
I did try to run the fstrim app (didn't know about this), but it won't run. Says my system isn't supported.
The ViperOneM8 would be a really good ROM to use. Used it from the start, till moving on to my HTC One M9.
To ensure it always runs stable you got to update your firmware sometimes to match the base the developers are using for theire ROM. Did you always do and take care of this point!?
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Thanks, I'm running CM 12.1 right now and really don't want to install yet another ROM. I'm to the point that if this doesn't work I'll just bring it back to stock and suffer with that or buy a new [email protected] phone!
I did try to run the fstrim app (didn't know about this), but it won't run. Says my system isn't supported.
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Always have a backup just in case!!!
Flash pie patch for fstrim to work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2821644&d=1403933203
More info why you need pie patch:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/development/fix-bypassing-pie-security-check-t2797731
I just came from Razr this year to M8
Stayed with CM11 thru CM12.1 on the Razr up until about this time last year(kept trying up to cm12.1 on other slots until 3/12/15). The whole time the phone would become very laggy after about a week just as you are experiencing now. It was very frustrating & I know how you feel. Tried Liquid Smooth & it was a lot better with no lag but a few bugs, then stayed with AOKP rom until about March of this year,this was the best rom for me on the razr.
Wanted a faster phone because razr was 4 years old & was thinking hardware was just to old for performance.
So my friend DumbleDore suggest M8 running Dirty Unicorns & I have great phone!!!
Had a few issues with screen turning on while in my pocket(stock did it also) but smac0628 told me to turn off ambient display & that issue is resolved.
If Dirty Unicorns does not work for you then it has to be hardware on the phone.
You should try before buying another phone!!!
http://download.dirtyunicorns.com/files/m8/Official/DU_m8_5.1.1_20150814-0142.v9.6-OFFICIAL.zip
More info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/orig-development/rom-dirty-unicorns-5-0-2-htc-one-m8-03-t3052466
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Always have a backup just in case!!!
Flash pie patch for fstrim to work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2821644&d=1403933203
More info why you need pie patch:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/development/fix-bypassing-pie-security-check-t2797731
I just came from Razr this year to M8
Stayed with CM11 thru CM12.1 on the Razr up until about this time last year(kept trying up to cm12.1 on other slots until 3/12/15). The whole time the phone would become very laggy after about a week just as you are experiencing now. It was very frustrating & I know how you feel. Tried Liquid Smooth & it was a lot better with no lag but a few bugs, then stayed with AOKP rom until about March of this year,this was the best rom for me on the razr.
Wanted a faster phone because razr was 4 years old & was thinking hardware was just to old for performance.
So my friend DumbleDore suggest M8 running Dirty Unicorns & I have great phone!!!
Had a few issues with screen turning on while in my pocket(stock did it also) but smac0628 told me to turn off ambient display & that issue is resolved.
If Dirty Unicorns does not work for you then it has to be hardware on the phone.
You should try before buying another phone!!!
http://download.dirtyunicorns.com/files/m8/Official/DU_m8_5.1.1_20150814-0142.v9.6-OFFICIAL.zip
More info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/orig-development/rom-dirty-unicorns-5-0-2-htc-one-m8-03-t3052466
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Thanks, I flashed the pie patch, but that broke CM, it was stuck at the boot animation. I did make a backup, but decided to wipe and install DU for the heck of it. I don't have very high hopes to be honest after all these problems I've been having. I'm also hesitant to try to install the pie patch on DU...we'll see.
Fingers crossed that this all works!
Update: Welp, that was stupid, tried to install the pie patch on DU and it does the same thing; just stays on the boot animation. Dirty flashing the DU ROM seems to have brought it back to life without totally re-flashing.
I've never seen this issue. I'd suggest it has nothing to do with the roms, but more to do with apps installed and possibly also caches.
Yes, a clean install of anything will clean up things and all will be smooth. After time, certain apps and/or full caches can bog things down.
Your setup will determine smoothness also.
Just my opinion... But again, I've never had any rom slow down and lag after any amount of time. But my phone is lean as far as apps and setup go. And housekeeping is strict. :good:
ned4spd8874 said:
Thanks, I flashed the pie patch, but that broke CM, it was stuck at the boot animation. I did make a backup, but decided to wipe and install DU for the heck of it. I don't have very high hopes to be honest after all these problems I've been having. I'm also hesitant to try to install the pie patch on DU...we'll see.
Fingers crossed that this all works!
Update: Welp, that was stupid, tried to install the pie patch on DU and it does the same thing; just stays on the boot animation. Dirty flashing the DU ROM seems to have brought it back to life without totally re-flashing.
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Sorry about the piepatch link, thought it would have been good.
I have pulled the one I am using from my sd-card on phone & know it works, have used many times.
Here is the upload:
https://www.mediafire.com/?ms7l9xk27rw3fzd
I do not use facebook app, if you need it I would recommend the lite version.
If you need I will try to find for you.
crackerjack1957 said:
Sorry about the piepatch link, thought it would have been good.
I have pulled the one I am using from my sd-card on phone & know it works, have used many times.
Here is the upload:
https://www.mediafire.com/?ms7l9xk27rw3fzd
I do not use facebook app, if you need it I would recommend the lite version.
If you need I will try to find for you.
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Thanks, that one works!!!
I'm still trying to understand this app and what it does though. So, by default, /data and /cache are checked, but /system is not. Is there a reason to not run this for the /system partition?
ned4spd8874 said:
Thanks, that one works!!!
I'm still trying to understand this app and what it does though. So, by default, /data and /cache are checked, but /system is not. Is there a reason to not run this for the /system partition?
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Check all partitions, I think some roms or phones have a problem trimming system partition the reason it is not checked by default.
Its my understanding that android 4.3 & latter support trim & run automatically under certain circumstances.
http://www.xda-developers.com/yet-another-reason-to-update-to-android-4-3-trim-support/
The apps just let you control trim manually or schedule trim when you want to.
Trim is also on ssd's(solid state drives) that took the place of hdd's that could be defragged to speed up OS.
Dirty Unicorns has always been fast for me & trim was not needed because of quick updates.:good:
crackerjack1957 said:
Check all partitions, I think some roms or phones have a problem trimming system partition the reason it is not checked by default.
Its my understanding that android 4.3 & latter support trim & run automatically under certain circumstances.
http://www.xda-developers.com/yet-another-reason-to-update-to-android-4-3-trim-support/
The apps just let you control trim manually or schedule trim when you want to.
Trim is also on ssd's(solid state drives) that took the place of hdd's that could be defragged to speed up OS.
Dirty Unicorns has always been fast for me & trim was not needed because of quick updates.:good:
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Thanks for all the help so far!
Something is still wrong...still locking up and being unresponsive. Just going through and deleting apps until it starts behaving...what a pain! I still don't get it though, it's not like I have new apps, these are the same that I've always been using. Dunno.
ned4spd8874 said:
Thanks for all the help so far!
Something is still wrong...still locking up and being unresponsive. Just going through and deleting apps until it starts behaving...what a pain! I still don't get it though, it's not like I have new apps, these are the same that I've always been using. Dunno.
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Ok sounds like you have proved it not being a rom issue & think you may be on the right track by eliminating apps that could cause issues(slow & pain-in-the-a**).
I know you been doing this for a while but is firmware & TWRP up to date?
Also when changing roms do you wipe all that is needed before install?
crackerjack1957 said:
Ok sounds like you have proved it not being a rom issue & think you may be on the right track by eliminating apps that could cause issues(slow & pain-in-the-a**).
I know you been doing this for a while but is firmware & TWRP up to date?
Also when changing roms do you wipe all that is needed before install?
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Latest TWRP and yes, I do believe those are the settings I use when wiping.
One thing I have noticed is that when it does get slow, opening up the recent apps and clearing them seems to help performance. That is, when it's responsive enough to bring up that screen.
About two days and still no luck. Decided to wipe and resist installing any extra programs for now. Running bare bones sucks and it's boring!
I removed about 20 programs and none made a difference. Started with the obvious ones that would/could run in the background like Facebook, but that didn't matter. The only thing that worked every time to help with performance was closing all the recent apps.
Now I'm going to run as bare as I can until at least tomorrow evening and slowly install apps...
ned4spd8874 said:
About two days and still no luck. Decided to wipe and resist installing any extra programs for now. Running bare bones sucks and it's boring!
I removed about 20 programs and none made a difference. Started with the obvious ones that would/could run in the background like Facebook, but that didn't matter. The only thing that worked every time to help with performance was closing all the recent apps.
Now I'm going to run as bare as I can until at least tomorrow evening and slowly install apps...
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The ROMs that you have mentioned that you have tried are all pretty much as stable as can be. I'm going to say here that it is either user caused, or you are expecting too much.
Do you think there will never be issues? It happens on stock as well.
xunholyx said:
The ROMs that you have mentioned that you have tried are all pretty much as stable as can be. I'm going to say here that it is either user caused, or you are expecting too much.
Do you think there will never be issues? It happens on stock as well.
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I understand that there will always be issues. But the phone shouldn't lock up totally while doing simple things such as opening email or turning wi-fi off. Last week I was at a point where I had to force reboot my phone just about every time I tried to do something because it was so unresponsive. That is not normal nor acceptable.
I've been running SkyDragon for weeks, dirty flashed and I have loads of crap on mine. I have absolutely no issues with lag, locking up or any other kind of anomaly.
No different to stock Tbh.
I very rarely reboot, I use All-in-one toolbox to disable unnecessary apps from start up and the excellent Extended settings with Xposed.
ashyx said:
I've been running SkyDragon for weeks, dirty flashed and I have loads of crap on mine. I have absolutely no issues with lag, locking up or any other kind of anomaly.
No different to stock Tbh.
I very rarely reboot, I use All-in-one toolbox to disable unnecessary apps from start up and the excellent Extended settings with Xposed.
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Hi folks,
I hope this isn't a faux pas. I understand we're not supposed to start religious wars about which ROM is the best. So let's not do that. But I could use some advice on the pros and cons of the different options open to me. Here is my situation and success criteria:
1. My T-Mo M919 is currently running an old SlimKat Android 4.4.4 from August 2014. I'm on the MDL bootloader and NB4 GSM modem at the moment. It's running mostly OK, with some camera freezes, some issues with battery drain when Bluetooth is on but not connected to a paired device or in use (wakelock prevents deep sleep... possibly app related?), and I've noticed the ATT Visual Voicemail app, when used to listen to a voicemail, kills subsequent phone call audio/microphone requiring reboot.
2. I've gotten used to Android 5.1(.1) on my tablet and I'd like to make the jump up to Lollipop on my phone, too. So I'm mostly looking at ROMs that are either 5.1 or 5.1.1. However, I'm considering as an outside contender just getting the OH3 firmware for the M919, doing the double flash to get me all the way there, then rooting and freezing Samsung crapware.
3. My criteria are: STABILITY. I don't need a lot of customization. I just want the thing to work. This includes being able to use the camera without it freezing, and being able to use my visual voicemail app without it nuking the phone function of the... uh... phone.
4. I use the phone mostly as an email / texting / forum-browsing device that a few times a week is actually used as a phone to make voice calls. I occasionally tether other devices to the phone's wifi. This needs to work without a hitch.
5. I use Bluetooth to pair with my car's audio system and I need that to be smooth. I recall in the KitKat days there were lots of complaints about glitch pairing/audio. My Slimkat has worked well with the car audio (a late model Toyota); no glitches. I want something that will have stable Bluetooth audio.
My current planned front-runner is the 5.1 GPE ROM by Danvdh. It seems quite stable from reading the thread.
Team Radium's ROM also looks promising.
On the AOSP side, the relatively pure AOSP recently posted by AntaresOne looks good. And I've run Dirty Unicorns before, in the 4.4 days before I moved to SlimKat. That was a good experience. And of course I hear the Slim folks are rebooting so SlimPop or whatever is an option.
I'd like any good direction, focused on stability rather than artwork or customizability, that will help me decide. Thanks!
Frankenscript said:
I'd like any good direction, focused on stability rather than artwork or customizability, that will help me decide. Thanks!
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Honestly, if your focus is on stability rather than artwork/customizability, you're best off flashing back to stock, as pretty much every 5.1.1 ROM for the S4 is going to have a bug somewhere in it; even in the ones you've mentioned, there are bug complaints in their respective threads.
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This is definitely something I'm considering, but I'd really like to move to 5.1(.1), so I'm willing to give a ROM a try. It sucks that T-Mo never released Lollipop for the M919. I figure if I pick the most stable / settled-in Pop ROM, maybe it will work out. If not I'll drop back to stock 4.4.4 OH3, then freeze out the crap.
I have an Australian version (XSA) of the Note 10.1 sm-p600 which was only ever upgraded to 4.4.2 (latest official release).
I find the performance sluggish when playing games (eg Clash Royale) and want to see if a new ROM will improve the speed but want minimal fuss. I would like to know people's suggestions of which ROM to use that will give me a faster but still stable experience.
Is the official 5.1.1 any good? Do I need to go custom? I want to avoid having to do complicated installs as well if possible.
I mostly play games and watch YouTube on it and maybe some sports apps to get scores. Nothing that really requires root (and some of the sports apps don't like root).
Thanks in advance.
Just checked my build and it looks like it is already on 5.1.1 - I must have updated it last year and forgotten.
Still not happy with the load times of Clash Royale, any other suggestions about making the tablet run faster? It seems to still have a decent processor and RAM despite being a few years old.
Well, you're running 5.1.1 right? Probably the only thing left is to go to Development section and install Prime Kernel V6, it's the last version for lollipop touchwiz. That one has a couple of tweaks to improve the standard performance offered by stock/factory software. Make sure to backup everything, and then flash the zip. Updating kernel has no need to wipe or reformat anything so no data is lost, but do it just in case.
To get more juice out, you'd have to install custom ROMs, like LiquidDeath from the Original Development section, that has a couple of new stuff like the updated GPU driver ported from marshmallow touchwiz apparently, and from my subjective view, performance is better along with increased battery life.
I don't do much gaming, but on stock 5.1.1 with stock kernel I usually get around 7 hours screen on time browsing the web, but with LD I can go around 10 to 11 hours easy with the same usage.
Thanks. I'll check out the kernel first.
Would you suggest LiquidDeath or LineageOS?
Sorry for the late reply, lol. I assume you've been running touchwizz/stock Samsung lollipop this while, but using that custom kernel I've mentioned? How was the experience? If that works fine with you, I believe there's no need for custom ROMs.
I test and run random ROMs many times, liking to flash stuff and all. If you want to try out the waters, the most rock-solid, no-issues release so far is probably the last release of LiquidDeath, mostly because it has less crud, and therefore fewer potential to go wrong. Lineage is good too, but I prefer keeping it simple.