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Does the 1080p resolution result in visible pixels? How well will the phone do with a VR headset due to the low resoution for a 5.5 inch display?
Battery life of my N5 never was good, after 3 years of use it's really bad. How much of an improvement can I expect?
How much more power in real life experience can I expect from the Snapdragon 820 compared to the N5's 800?
Do you think the switch is generally worth it? I was thinking about waiting for the new Nexus devices, but the pricing of the N6P makes me think I won't get as much bang for the buck as I do when buying the Oneplus 3.
It's a great phone if you plan to run stock BUT there's no dash charging for custom ROMs AND there is no good camera on custom ROMs.
Oneplus hasn't released the source for dash charging and camera apk.
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1. cannot see any visible pixels. I don't use VR, so I can't comment on that.
2. Battery life will be a generous increase, at least for me and my usage it was. And I came from a 5X. It last me a full day and then some.
3. Compared to a N5, day to day usage you should see a noticeable increase in speed, especially if you decrease animations to .5. where you will see the most benefits will be multi tasking, gaming and tab intensive browsing.
4. I've had both the 5x and 6p, the former being my favorite. Unless your a huge Nexus fan, in my opinion i would get the OP3. It is just as easy to unlock the bootloader and run custom Roms. At the moment custom is kind of limited because the kernel source not being released, no dash charge. But all the Roms are here, including AOSP. (Slim 6) I'm using stock oxygen rooted, fits my bill. The only other thing would be the 2016 Nexus' but I'm not a big fan of HTC, the RAM will be less and I'm not sure they will be able to beat the OP3 all around.. Check my Sig, I've had a few devices and this is by far my favorite.
Again, these are just my experiences/opinions.
both the 2016 Nexus 5" and the OP3 will likely be amazing and powerful. Camera on the OP3 is not as good as N6P though, FYI. performance is much better than any other phone though. minor customizations are nice too
The only thing i'd recommend is avoiding the 2015 Nexus 5X.
Lownita said:
Does the 1080p resolution result in visible pixels? How well will the phone do with a VR headset due to the low resoution for a 5.5 inch display?
Battery life of my N5 never was good, after 3 years of use it's really bad. How much of an improvement can I expect?
How much more power in real life experience can I expect from the Snapdragon 820 compared to the N5's 800?
Do you think the switch is generally worth it? I was thinking about waiting for the new Nexus devices, but the pricing of the N6P makes me think I won't get as much bang for the buck as I do when buying the Oneplus 3.
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1. Personally I use VR alot and I don't see any noticeable problem ....it performs like any other 1080 device (comparing with my 5inch 1080p s4) ...even though it's 5.5 inch it still looks good in Vr...coming to those heating ....even one plus 3 gets heated up after using VR for a long time and reaches to 40-45° Celsius or even more sometimes
2.It gives more than 5hours of screen on time to me ....and since warranty isn't void when rooting you can use a custom kernel or lower the clock speed to improve battery life even more
3.personally I never used N5 and coming to performance of AOSP or close to AOSP Roms they perform well even in a snapdragon 400...but snap820 gives a boost in gaming ...games run smoothly and the device can even have another game in its memory and you can keep switching without any lags and there is negligible heating while gaming
4.i'm sure the new Nexus will be costlier ...but if you are a VR fan you might be expecting alot from Google's upcoming daydream and I don't really know what exact hardware it actually needs and Google said that no current device will fully support daydream ...and it's just axon 7 which is said to be daydream ready for now ....you can buy one plus right now or wait for Nexus to come and decide between the 2 ....it will be your final decision ....personally I think you must go for one plus 3 because it's really a "value for money " type of device
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Thanks everyone, sounds really good! The bug where the phone didn't use the ram to its full extend has been fixed, is that right?
I switched from the Nexus 5 as well and I do not regret it. The device is amazing and you will not get anything better for 400€/$ (IMHO).
The battery life is good so far, but I cannot give you any numbers since I have only used it for about a week and tinkered a lot with it. This makes any estimation for battery life unrealistic. So far I would say it is better than the Nexus 5 but that is all I want to say about this topic .
The larger display, larger storage, better camera and larger RAM are definitely worth an upgrade in my opinion!
That said, my Nexus 5 still works fine with a new battery and cm13 (caf-version (!)) and there are also a few things it does better than the OP3:
* Stronger vibration motor (IMHO) which is useful if you use the device in silent mode most of the time...
* Far more accurate display. I was surprised by the strange colors of the amoled display. I enabled the sRGB mode which mostly fixed this but I did not remember the colors being so different after switching from the Galaxy S1 to Nexus 4 and Nexus 5...
Altogether a very good phone, definitely worth the money and a good upgrade. Make sure to also buy the sandstone-cover if you decide to buy the OP3. The aluminium body makes this thing extremely slippery. And honestly it is still a thin device, even with the cover included.
Best Regards
Michael
P.s.: I have no idea about VR, sry.
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They did do a fix, but I still dont think it would use all 6 gigs. I see it as more than future proof
I traded in my Note 5, which I loved for the Note 8 and the Note 8 is clearly the best phone I've ever used. That said, 2017 has finally brought compelling competition worth considering.
What I love about the Note 8:
-Hands down the highest quality screen of any phone
-6 GB RAM makes multitasking great
-The camera takes awesome pictures
-The battery life is incredible
-The theme engine allows dark theme without root
-Call quality is outstanding
-The phone is blazing fast 98% of the time
-Headphone Jack
What I don't love about the Note 8:
-The height and weight of the phone. I have large hands and could always manage the Note 5 one handed, but the height of the Note 8 with added weight make it awkward to use in certain situations. I think if the phone were wider, it might balance the weight distribution. Using a Pixel 2 XL and V30, both are much manageable in the hands.
-The forced white navbar is a nuisance for dark themes. Couldn't Samsung offer grays or faded navbar icons to minimize burn in? I use a 3rd party app to mostly mitigate the problem, but not all apps work properly with it.
-The Bixby button. Again, I've used a 3rd party app to mitigate the problem, but it doesn't seem like a polished solution. Samsung just needs to give us options to remap it.
-The curved screen. Yes, it looks great, but the shadows and light refraction make it annoying at times.
Obviously, the pros of the phone greatly outweigh the cons but every time I see someone using a Pixel 2 XL, I am jealous of the more manageable size, the fast and fluid UI that gets updated faster, and the even bigger battery. I am well aware that both the Pixel 2 XL and V30 have far more problems than the Note 8, namely their screens and bluetooth. Being on Verizon, the OnePlus 5T isn't an option, though I love the thought of a phone that has 8 GB RAM and custom ROM capabilities. Maybe I'm just dreaming of a Note 8 running stock Android, and with a flat 18:9 screen ratio instead of 18.5:9 (which seems to account for the length and narrowness). I'm not actually considering switching phones, but I've been tempted to get another flagship to replace my Nexus 6 as a business line. Thoughts?
I got a note 8 and my wife broke the screen of her s7 edge so of course she wanted fixed or a new phone. Gave her my note 8 and got myself an LG V30 thinking that my note 8 was still too big. After 4 hrs I decided I wanted the note 8 back. The note 8 is a superior phone in all ways except for the audio. I traded the v30 for a new blue note 8 in Bestbuy with 300 dollars off. If I have spare money for another phone I would probably get a pixel 2 xl. I watch a lot of videos and YouTube and the 2 speakers in the front appeal to me. For a daily driver I would get bored right away of the pixel. The note 8 could be customized in so many ways that I haven't even installed Nova launcher yet which has been a most in all my previous phones. If you have a note 8 you have the best Android phone currently and period.
Ha, what competition. Note 8 plays in it's own world. It's a beast.
Also with Oreo update it's only better
I had an ASUS Zenfone AR that I got in September. Nothing but problems - which probably explains why VZW pulled it in less than 6 months. After going through 3 Zenfones, I finally convinced VZW to buy it back and got the Note 8 last week.
Size is very good
Wireless charging FTW
Agreed with above points on speed, screen resolution, etc.
First thing I did was install Nova Plus
I played with the advanced Audio settings - including the hearing test and my LG BT Headset sounds amazing!
Theme engine???????
Disabling Bixby and downloading Google Assistant, finding an obscure setting that I can't find again that selects GA as the default and now it works perfect, but it took me a week to get it to work right.
The one thing I DON'T like about the curved screen is that in 2 weeks, I've had 2 tempered glass screen protectors crack and I have to think this is because of the curve. This second one is just a minor hairline at the bottom but the first one was worse.
The other was being reminded that you can't just connect a Samsung to your computer and transfer files >: Still looking for the best way to do that or break down and pay for Wondershare Mobile Go - which may be worth it since you can browse system files
I've only had it a few days.....had to root and debloat and amend some things (adblocker, viperFX...) It's sure is a beautifully designed thing. It's also like having a Mercedes made out of glass. First thing I did when I ordered it was to order a case and screen protector. No way I would go without it, even walking around a carpeted house. But the key reason I got it was that it was rootable and a high end phone. I was coming from a quirky but great V10 and a Note 3 before that. I will simply not have a phone that I can't root.
I like it a lot incredible battery life using a disable of course most crashes are caused by wonky apps..not blazing fast but not real important. I still prefer it over my iphone 6s plus.. not sure which phone is faster, but for a phone, I choose android.. previous phone was LG10,Note4,galaxys4....way better than those
I'm just looking for a upgraded spen device then I'll be content with the note 8
Been looking at the reviews of the ROG 2 phone the last few days. Looks like an absolute beast.
Obviously the cameras are no where near the level of the N10+, but that 120hz screen, 6000mah battery and 855+ has me suckered. :crying:
The idea crossed my mind, but, no, I like the note series so much... The S pen is unique!
Not even remotely. The Rog phone doesn't compare to what the Note 10+ brings to the table. You won't notice a bit of difference from the 855 to the 855+ I bet and the hz of the display just doesn't move the needle for me. We already have a huge battery, the ROG is a hog. No S Pen or many other things the Note phones offer. But if you get a ROG 2, please let us know if it was worth it.
It's a great phone and tailored to a specific market "Gamers" and people who want the best specs on any smartphone. I was tempted as well but I personally use the S-Pen throughout my workday, not to mention, I feel that I would be laughed at if I brought the ROG 2 phone out during a meeting or an event. That being said, I feel that the Note10/+ has been around longer and is more refined due to this length of iteration. If you want a phone that has everything, minus a headphone jack lol, then I'd go for the Note10/+. If you want a high refresh screen with the craziest specs and will be using it to it's full capacity, go for the ROG 2 phone. Either way, I'm sure you'd be happy with your purchase and as other people have said, let us know what you think if you go with the ROG.
Tempted - especially because of the high screen refresh rate & possibly the loudest stereo speakers to date on a phone.
Main turn-off for me is ease of Root & custom ROM support.
Specifically purchased Note 10+ for the Spen.
Was previously on Asus Zenfone 5z with 8Gb RAM and 256 GB storage.
If productivity is your priority then there is no other option then Note 10+ atleast as of now.
lookrd at it, but honestly was more tempted by one 7 pro.
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lookrd at it, but honestly was more tempted by one 7 pro.
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That too.... but OP7T Pro around the corner.....
Always something new around the corner.
I think it's pretty interesting from a specs perspective but I really hate the "gamer" product design.
Not at all. Mobile gaming seems like a joke to me, and the Note series continues to deliver exactly what I'm after in a smartphone so I'm very satisfied with this new 10+ 5g
I like how light the note 10 plus is. Holding it to match video is easier.
Has anyone come from the Note 10+ to the ROG 2?
Interested to hear any thoughts and any positive / negatives for those who have had both phones...
I've really been tempted by that massive 6000mah battery, as well as the 120hz screen
Not a Note 10 but I've had a Note 9 for a year and I'm going to the ROG phone II, if I had a Note 10 though, I think I'd stick with it, I just could stomach the cost even with a Note 9 to trade in.
The Note's just do everything well (But not amazingly) in my opinion, are feature packed, fairly well supported by Samsung if you have issues and have very good cameras. Quite a few of those things you'll lose with the ROG Phone II.
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Has anyone come from the Note 10+ to the ROG 2?
Interested to hear any thoughts and any positive / negatives for those who have had both phones...
I've really been tempted by that massive 6000mah battery, as well as the 120hz screen
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Interested to hear any thoughts and any positive / negatives for those who have had both phones...
I've really been tempted by that massive 6000mah battery, as well as the 120hz screen [/QUOTE]
I've owned 9 Samsungs for the past years the last 2 Note 9 and Galaxy S10+.
Software: What's positive about Sammy but negative about ROG is the customization ie themes, wallpaper, fonts, app store etc. Positive for ROG but negative for Sammy is game genie, touch response and 120hz refresh rate
Hardware: Positive for Sammy but negative for ROG - the stylus, top of the class cameras, screen, waterproofing, SD CARD, etc. Wireless charging, no headphone jack etc. Positive for ROG but negative for Sammy - battery, SoC, shoulder triggers for gamers, headphone jack, stereo speakers, various gaming accessories, fan, and battery
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Interested to hear any thoughts and any positive / negatives for those who have had both phones...
I've really been tempted by that massive 6000mah battery, as well as the 120hz screen
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I've owned 9 Samsungs for the past years the last 2 Note 9 and Galaxy S10+.
Software: What's positive about Sammy but negative about ROG is the customization ie themes, wallpaper, fonts, app store etc. Positive for ROG but negative for Sammy is game genie, touch response and 120hz refresh rate
Hardware: Positive for Sammy but negative for ROG - the stylus, top of the class cameras, screen, waterproofing, SD CARD, etc. Wireless charging, no headphone jack etc. Positive for ROG but negative for Sammy - battery, SoC, shoulder triggers for gamers, headphone jack, stereo speakers, various gaming accessories, fan, and battery[/QUOTE]
I haven't own a Samsung in years, but I've had most of the recent Oneplus and pixel phones and have to say, that 120hz screen and 6Ah battery are the real deal. I'm getting 3 days off the charger with no power saving efforts and everything is so buttery smooth. The fact that it was cheaper than a OnePlus 7 pro was icing on the cake
i have had all the Note until the 9. i will never go back to samsung now ROG 1 & 2 have been solid and i have a surface so don't need spen. If your looking for a fluid phone don't spend 2000 on a 60hz phone get a rog 2
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I've owned 9 Samsungs for the past years the last 2 Note 9 and Galaxy S10+.
Software: What's positive about Sammy but negative about ROG is the customization ie themes, wallpaper, fonts, app store etc. Positive for ROG but negative for Sammy is game genie, touch response and 120hz refresh rate
Hardware: Positive for Sammy but negative for ROG - the stylus, top of the class cameras, screen, waterproofing, SD CARD, etc. Wireless charging, no headphone jack etc. Positive for ROG but negative for Sammy - battery, SoC, shoulder triggers for gamers, headphone jack, stereo speakers, various gaming accessories, fan, and battery
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I haven't own a Samsung in years, but I've had most of the recent Oneplus and pixel phones and have to say, that 120hz screen and 6Ah battery are the real deal. I'm getting 3 days off the charger with no power saving efforts and everything is so buttery smooth. The fact that it was cheaper than a OnePlus 7 pro was icing on the cake[/QUOTE]
did u use global or cn rom?
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I haven't own a Samsung in years, but I've had most of the recent Oneplus and pixel phones and have to say, that 120hz screen and 6Ah battery are the real deal. I'm getting 3 days off the charger with no power saving efforts and everything is so buttery smooth. The fact that it was cheaper than a OnePlus 7 pro was icing on the cake
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Thanks for your help guys! Got my 12/512gb WW (north american version) on Tuesday and absolutely wrapped with it!! Fcking fantastic! Probably my only gripe is the lack of screen protector out of the box (no VoLTE doesnt worry me either) - so happy with it! Now selling the Note10+
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Thanks for your help guys! Got my 12/512gb WW (north american version) on Tuesday and absolutely wrapped with it!! Fcking fantastic! Probably my only gripe is the lack of screen protector out of the box (no VoLTE doesnt worry me either) - so happy with it! Now selling the Note10+
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I know how you feel. Ditched my s10+ for this lovely device. Never going back.
I almost got a Note 9, but went with the ROG PHone 2, just way too much bang for the buck!!
I've had both. I have a Note 8, purchased the Note 10 +, I was trying to wrap my mind around it because to be quite frank, the screen of my Note 8 just was replaced fully paid by insurance because it had burn-in. Quite frankly, it's one thing to compare a Note 8 with nearly 2 years of screen usage versus one with a brand new new screen and a Note 10 Plus, it just wasn't enough of a difference to justify the 1700CAD that the phone cost me. It all came down to a 1700CAD flex, something I was not looking to do. I wanted a better phone.
Don't get me wrong, the screen was superior but ever so slightly. And, I don't take photos, it's not why I have a phone. Gaming and browsing is mainly why I have a phone, there was literally ZERO incentive for me to keep the Note 10 + vs the Note 8. So thankfully, I found out the RoG 2 was not only available for purchase in China, but it was half the price... I returned the Note 10 + and purchased the RoG Phone 2.
Man am I glad I did. The screen is honestly about as beautiful as Samsung's. The only thing Samsung's have over the RoG is that colors are slightly more vibrant. If you've ever compared a flagship Apple phone to a Note or S series from Samsung, imagine the color vibrancy to be somewhere in the middle so it's quite acceptable. As far as crispness, because the pixels move so faster, it honestly looks more crisp, and that is without taking into account the Anti-Aliasing toggle option in Armory for gaming. No matter what you do on your phone there is one thing that you will NEVER escape from and it is looking at it, so I gambled on that one factor that rules over any other phone and I assure you, at least from my standpoint, I don't ever see a reason to go back. The CPU/GPU are so overkill in these devices and contrary to what the market was 5-6 years ago, devs now make sure to support as many devices as possible (which makes sense) so I'd expect the chips to be seriously viable for the next 3-4 years easy. That's not to say I'll wait that long to change, most likely not but yeah, this phone is absolute overkill when it comes to it's power.
And so many features that makes this phone a killer option, Air Triggers, side USB-C, FM radio, Glove mode (which nearly turns the screen resistive), easy macro'ing in games (killer feature if gaming), etc....
I'll say one last thing, after 5 different Galaxy phones back-to-back, I miss OneUI because I was so used to it but with all the customizability that Android offers, it's a no brainer that there is a workaround for nearly everything other than the S-Pen, a very little sacrifice vs. all the benefits.
Hi all I'm thinking of switching from my s21 ultra (exynos variant) but been hearing some bad reviews etc of bad battery life and not so good cameras etc on the pixel does any one who ownes a pixel 6 pro know if most of these have been fixed? And would people consider the pixel 6 pro over the s21 ultra or am I best waiting till the s22 thanks
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Hi all I'm thinking of switching from my s21 ultra (exynos variant) but been hearing some bad reviews etc of bad battery life and not so good cameras etc on the pixel does any one who ownes a pixel 6 pro know if most of these have been fixed? And would people consider the pixel 6 pro over the s21 ultra or am I best waiting till the s22 thanks
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hi, i have switched from s21u(exy) and battery on p6 pro is amazing comparing to samsung(9h+ p6 pro / 6h s21u - same usage)(p6pro 42h/one charge / s21u/28h) . not only battery, i like the mini rounded corners of p6 pro, software is good enough(its new), will be better after fex fixes.
Thanks so would you say it's a good choice over the s21 ultra
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Thanks so would you say it's a good choice over the s21 ultra
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yeah, right now best choice, i am selling my s21u
Thanks might get it ordered today and pass down the s21 ultra to the lad
After the Pixel 1 stopped getting updates two years ago, my wife and I finally upgraded to the Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ 512 GB model, because for the first couple of years after the Pixel 1, I was waiting to buy another Pixel until they came out with a 256 GB model, and then by the time they did, I needed a 512 GB model so I still waited.
The Note 10+ hardware is great. I hate the software. I use my personal phone for my work too, my work uses Google for everything, and apparently, it's common with Samsung devices that they have sporadic syncing of GMail and Chat/Hangouts. When I told my brother about the problem I was having (and I did try deep-diving settings about not optimizing for battery usage, and not killing in the background, and even factory reset), my brother, who had only just bought his family their first smartphones maybe 4 years ago and go the Galaxy S9+, said that he assumed that's just the way Android is. It's not. I never encountered such bad GMail and chat syncing and notification behavior on any other phone.
For chat-type notifications, it was hit and miss whether I would receive timely ones. I could never narrow down what made the difference. For GMail, sometimes I wouldn't get a notification of an email until 45 minutes to even 2 hours later. Multi-tasking on the work computer, sometimes I wouldn't look at my GMail browser tab for long periods of time, and my boss likes to use chat quite often too. Half the time, I did happen to see the email in the browser tab, read it, and even deleted it (for non-critical things), and then later on my Samsung would let me know I have that "new" email. I already saw it and deleted it! Crazy.
There were other things Samsung gimped compared to other phones (Do Not Disturb...), and it also managed to duplicate all my contacts in a way that they're not recognized as duplicates so they can't be automatically de-duped.
Thankfully, back on the P6P 512 GB bandwagon, I no longer have those issues, and we quickly sold our Note 10+'s. So my answer is I'd trade any Samsung for a Pixel. Loved the Samsung hardware, but the software just doesn't cut it for me. The only thing I miss from the Note is the stylus from time to time, which would be handy for Pixel's magic eraser when you have to really fine-tune some erasing.
Oh yeah - I haven't had any issues with my battery life in the month I've had the phone. For the last five years, I never quick charge any phone, I only charge once the phone gets down to 25%, and I take the phone off the charger at 75%. I never charge overnight. The Pixel 6/Pro have Adaptive Charge to help battery life, but my 25-75% battery range lasts me 24 hours normally anyway. I don't own any quick chargers except my original Pixel 1 charger, and I don't use it.
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Hi all I'm thinking of switching from my s21 ultra (exynos variant) but been hearing some bad reviews etc of bad battery life and not so good cameras etc on the pixel does any one who ownes a pixel 6 pro know if most of these have been fixed? And would people consider the pixel 6 pro over the s21 ultra or am I best waiting till the s22 thanks
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If multiple days of battery life is a bad thing, or the camera is too good for you.... you might want to stick with the samdung.
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Hi all I'm thinking of switching from my s21 ultra (exynos variant) but been hearing some bad reviews etc of bad battery life and not so good cameras etc on the pixel does any one who ownes a pixel 6 pro know if most of these have been fixed? And would people consider the pixel 6 pro over the s21 ultra or am I best waiting till the s22 thanks
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I did the same thing, and battery is good after about a week or two. You have to give the adaptive battery time to learn your habits. Not sure where you heard the camera is bad. That's the best part of the phone.
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The only thing I miss from the Note is the stylus from time to time, which would be handy for Pixel's magic eraser when you have to really fine-tune some erasing.
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There are 10 billion options for capacitive screen pokey things on Amazon. I can't tell you which ones I have, because I can't read the font they used to identify themselves, but works pretty good.
Owning currently both devices here I can maybe share a few thoughts, subjective of course as many of those base on what I like/dislike:
Pro S21 Ultra:
+ build quality
+ display quality
+ overall maturity of the software
+ better standby drain
Pro Pixel 6 Pro:
+ genuine, clean Android with less bloat
+ snappier UI
+ active battery life
+ Camera: much lower noise and much better dynamic range in low light
+ Camera: less heavy-handed noise-reduction/resharpening
+ (slightly) less weight
+ much more development friendly (no hassle bootloader unlock without lost warranty, no Knox.....)
All in all I like both phones, what makes me moving back to the S21 Ultra (or maybe again Mi 11U) is memory - sadly Google only sells the P6P with max 256GB in Germany which I find a bit too small for my purpose.....
And a few more words on the camera: Samsung has its own way in image processing and in many cases this leads to loss of details in grass/leaves/.... which I dislike. The Pixel 6 Pro gives much better results here, as with many indoor shots specifically of pets/kids.... So overall I much prefer the Pixel camera, this doesn't mean the Samsung camera is bad, though - it isn't !
The only thing I like about my s21 ultra is the display screen. Other than that, 6 pro tops it off. (The 6 pro is on par with the iPhone 13 max's camera btw) With the exception of the video quality of course. The iPhone is still the king for shooting high quality videos.
I have both. These are the most notable differences that I have noticed in using both extensively over a few weeks.
Everything else not-mentioned seems the same/equivalent between the two devices.
Battery; The Samsung has better battery life out of the box, hands down. I regularly saw 7hour screen time and easily made it 24 hours or more on a single charge. The P6P gets about 4-5hours screen time and only about 20-22hours on a charge.
Can only hope the P6P gets better with updates. I returned my first P6P because I thought something was wrong with it. Unfortunately, the second one is the same. It's bad (for some people, but apparently not everyone).
Temperature; You have to try really hard to make the Samsung work up a sweat. The P6P seems to get warm at random times without much going on (browsing forums, for example). Then other times when you would expect it to get warm (watching videos), it runs perfectly cool. Very strange.
Camera; There's nothing better or easier than the P6P when trying to produce consistent great quality pictures. Despite superior hardware in the Samsung S21 Ultra, overall picture results are handicapped due to inferior software/processing, especially in portrait mode. It has gotten better with updates, but still gets beat handily by P6P.
Size and Weight; The P6P is more hand/pocket friendly. It is noticeably thinner and lighter than the S21 Ultra, making it more comfortable in the pockets that I carry it in (back pocket or front shirt pocket). The S21 Ultra feels like a small cinder block in the pocket compare to the P6P.
Charging; Despite better technical sheet specs for the P6P, it charges inconsistently and slower than the S21 Ultra. It's not by a small margin either, P6P takes about 2x longer.
It also tends to get warm to the point of thorttling during charging. The S21 Ultra is consistent, and charges very fast and doesnt get very warm (certainly never throttles).
Software; I suppose this could be preference. If you like the Samsung software look and feel, then it's perfectly fine. It really runs almost flawlessly compared to older TouchWiz crap from Samsung. I prefer the look and feel of pure android from Google.
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I have both. These are the most notable differences that I have noticed in using both extensively over a few weeks.
Everything else not-mentioned seems the same/equivalent between the two devices.
Battery; The Samsung has better battery life out of the box, hands down. I regularly saw 7hour screen time and easily made it 24 hours or more on a single charge. The P6P gets about 4-5hours screen time and only about 20-22hours on a charge.
Can only hope the P6P gets better with updates. I returned my first P6P because I thought something was wrong with it. Unfortunately, the second one is the same. It's bad (for some people, but apparently not everyone).
Temperature; You have to try really hard to make the Samsung work up a sweat. The P6P seems to get warm at random times without much going on (browsing forums, for example). Then other times when you would expect it to get warm (watching videos), it runs perfectly cool. Very strange.
Camera; There's nothing better or easier than the P6P when trying to produce consistent great quality pictures. Despite superior hardware in the Samsung S21 Ultra, overall picture results are handicapped due to inferior software/processing, especially in portrait mode. It has gotten better with updates, but still gets beat handily by P6P.
Size and Weight; The P6P is more hand/pocket friendly. It is noticeably thinner and lighter than the S21 Ultra, making it more comfortable in the pockets that I carry it in (back pocket or front shirt pocket). The S21 Ultra feels like a small cinder block in the pocket compare to the P6P.
Charging; Despite better technical sheet specs for the P6P, it charges inconsistently and slower than the S21 Ultra. It's not by a small margin either, P6P takes about 2x longer.
It also tends to get warm to the point of thorttling during charging. The S21 Ultra is consistent, and charges very fast and doesnt get very warm (certainly never throttles).
Software; I suppose this could be preference. If you like the Samsung software look and feel, then it's perfectly fine. It really runs almost flawlessly compared to older TouchWiz crap from Samsung. I prefer the look and feel of pure android from Google.
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I think a lot of what you're putting down as negatives against P6P comes down to gservices and broken "pixel features". I'm running pure (google free) AOSP on mine. I pulled it off the charger this morning at 5:30 (7.5 hours ago). Currently have 1.5 hr screen on time and the battery is at 92%, and so far the battery gauge appears to be pretty linear. I've also NOT noticed ANY substantial heating up. It runs pretty cool consistently -- note that heat comes from the battery, so it makes sense.
Also, there is no magic battery BS in AOSP.
I upgraded from a Note 20 Ultra 512Gb and the battery on my P6P is phenomenal compared to the Note 20. There have been issues for some on the P6P but I've been using my 512Gb unlocked variant with no issue at all. Just make sure you set your P6P from scratch and don't transfer data from your S21 Ultra. Also the standby drain is the best I've ever had, took it off the charger at 9PM at 100% and at 8:30 the next morning was at 99%. Not everyone is having the same results that I have.
I had both for a while. S21 ultra for the last 9 months. Tested them side by side . I don't think the pixel is better than the s21 in any single way, they are actually so similar. I prefer the maturer Samsung email and calendar software but that's subjective. The biggest difference, which matters for me was that the pixel has more global 5g and LTE bands than the s21. I used Nova and mimicked the s21 completely. Really couldn't tell the difference except screen better on s21 IMHO.
if I didn't already own the s21 I would have bought the pixel but because they are so similar and it isn't an upgrade but more a move to the side, the change didn't make sense.
Display, build quality, signal quality and probably smoothness are all better on the s21U. However I prefer the camera on the P6P and also Pixel Android to OneUI. The S21U is a solid, well built device and I don't think the P6P is an upgrade, if anything it's a slight downgrade.
Thanks for all the replys I'm still on the fence at the minute lol,can I root the pixel 6 pro and have no problems like knox,drm keys etc like other devices have? And if ibdecude to want to unroot can it be returned back to totally factory as if it was never rooted? I haven't rooted for years and miss been able to uninstall apps etc and is viper4android still going strong or is there another app in its place thanks
Stick with the S21 Ultra. I went from a Note 20 Ultra to the Pixel 6 Pro. I love the camera, the better speakers, cleaner software experience, but overall it doesn't feel like an upgrade. The 5G reception is slightly worse, Android 12 has lots of quirks, charging speeds are much slower, and customization is currently very limited. It's possible that it will improve with updates and custom ROMs but its current state is underwhelming. To be honest, I'm already looking forward to the S22 Ultra.
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Thanks for all the replys I'm still on the fence at the minute lol,can I root the pixel 6 pro and have no problems like knox,drm keys etc like other devices have? And if ibdecude to want to unroot can it be returned back to totally factory as if it was never rooted? I haven't rooted for years and miss been able to uninstall apps etc and is viper4android still going strong or is there another app in its place thanks
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Yep, no bad sides to rooting or later unrooting at all, just jump through some well established hoops as far as banking apps are concerned. It didn't bother me and it was the first time I ever did what I needed for safety net and banking apps to not know I'm rooted. No one can tell you ever had it rooted if you re-lock the bootloader after restoring to 100% stock and then factory reset, which will re-disable the OEM unlock option on Developer Options.
You just never can automatically update to each months OTA, have to follow the proper manual procedure to update and stay rooted. I did it every month for over three years that I had the Pixel 1.
If you value the camera, root and stock Android then get the Pixel. If you don't value those then stick with the S21U. I came from the S21U so I can honestly tell you that the S21U is definitely a better all around device but the fact that I can root really made my decision easier to go with the Pixel. No, the Pixel isn't any smoother than the S21U as I've had both; they are pretty much the same in the smoothness department. Anyone who disagrees is lying to themselves.