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Hello everybody, I'm looking for a new smartphone to fit my needs. I actually own a Lg G Flex 2, and I'm unhappy with it. You may ask "why?". Well, because I'm very addicted to modding and all of these things. The locked bootloader etc. on the G Flex 2 made me really sad about this phone. Do you think it's worth to switch from a G Flex 2 to a Zenfone 2 (+ 30€)? Let me know, please. And most of all, this is not a "which one is better" so please don't argue too much. Thank you all!
My Opinion
gicifix said:
Hello everybody, I'm looking for a new smartphone to fit my needs. I actually own a Lg G Flex 2, and I'm unhappy with it. You may ask "why?". Well, because I'm very addicted to modding and all of these things. The locked bootloader etc. on the G Flex 2 made me really sad about this phone. Do you think it's worth to switch from a G Flex 2 to a Zenfone 2 (+ 30€)? Let me know, please. And most of all, this is not a "which one is better" so please don't argue too much. Thank you all!
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My Opinion
1) If you want to buy Zenfone 2 then I suggest you to buy 4GB Ram version Only.
2) If you are interested in latest android only then go for Nexus (e.g: Nexus 5X)
3) 4GB RAM versions are also available in Oppo,Vivo,etc. (Search for it)
4) In Sony you can get waterproof smartphone. (Search)
Some Mid Range Great Smartphones:-
1) Lenovo Vibe X3
2) Samsung Galaxy A8
3) Huawei Honor 7
4) Nexus 5X
5) Nexus 6
6) Sony Xperia M5 Dual
7) Sony Xperia Z3+
8) One Plus 2
9) VIVO X5 PRO
10) and of course ASUS Zenfone 2.
But do whatever you want to do...
The Zenfone 2 is not going to knock your socks off, and I don't think it was ever supposed to. The Zenfone 2 is a nice hardware package (not big time, but nice) and the price tag on it is LESS than my first car. The development community seems to love this phone and we were promised android 6 this quarter. Just make sure you get the 4GB model, and don't make the mistake of ordering one online that seems cheaper than everyone else is offering one for (a lot, and I mean A LOT of people got hosed thinking they were buying the WW version, and instead got a chinese model that someone flashed WW software on it and can't get LTE). I ordered three of these from ASUS and all three work great. I love mine and this is the first phone that my son or daughter have not complained about, and they complain about EVERYTHING
gicifix said:
Hello everybody, I'm looking for a new smartphone to fit my needs. I actually own a Lg G Flex 2, and I'm unhappy with it. You may ask "why?". Well, because I'm very addicted to modding and all of these things. The locked bootloader etc. on the G Flex 2 made me really sad about this phone. Do you think it's worth to switch from a G Flex 2 to a Zenfone 2 (+ 30€)? Let me know, please. And most of all, this is not a "which one is better" so please don't argue too much. Thank you all!
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i'm in ur same position ...i have xperia sp with GREAT deve community ....but i need to move since it's very old now(2013 phone) though it runs 6.0.1 with no bugs at all
gonna buy zenfone 2 after a month (till my exams are finished ) and i searched alot like VERY VERY alot
screen : it's not brightest nor the best IPS display but for the price u can't complain
volume : as i saw it's not that great...it's somehow little loud but it's muffled and tiny
hardware : 4g ram and quad-core 2.3ghz equal to SD801 or SD805 with only 300$ ....u sure can't complain about that
and ofc it got a great deve community with great ROMs and good official cm13 base
In all honesty, there are better options, I would go with the nexus or opo, I'm sorry I purchased the ZenFone 2.
From the current user of Zenfone 2, don't waste your money for it, you buy it as it is, no one care after that, more update bring more bugs, Intel has abandoned Intel Atom mobile CPU so if we are lucky, Android 6.0 is the lastest android version we could have on our phone, and if we are not, we stucked with 5.0 forever :3
Still great value for the $. It's not perfect but it's very functional.
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Just buy a phone with Qualcomm inside instead of intel inside.
Thank you all for the answers!
I've had an MI5 for a couple years and the screen is cracked and close to dying. I was thinking of buying an MI5S as a replacement but feel like I could get a better phone as it's TOO similar to my trusty MI5 even.
My specific, additional criteria includes it being similarly sized (height/thickness) to the MI5/MI5S (to fit my mobile phone holder). After searching GSMArena, it returned around 8 phones. Most of them were cheap phones that were also released in 2016. The one exception was the original Google Pixel. The spec seems similar to the MI5/MI5S but the fingerprint scanner on the back is a deal breaker. So with that, I'd be prepared to open up the choice of phones a bit more. It must be able to run LineageOS and still be getting updates (future releases are never guaranteed, I understand). Any recommended phones (or just get the MI5S)?
I would go for the newer Mi6, because it has an optical image stabilizer like the Mi5, which the Mi5s sadly lacks.
The Mi6 also has a way faster CPU than the Mi5s. Don't forget, the Mi5s is now nearly 2 years old.
Indeed, price difference is minimal, so go with better options like the Mi6. Mi Note 3 and Mi Mix 2 are also friendly priced recently.
Thanks for the suggestions so far. I didn't consider the Mi6 and a few other Xiaomi phones becasuse I was using an old GSMarena saved search where I specified band 28 had to be in the phone, but I don't actually need that band now.
Aaargh, the Mi6 (and upcoming 6X), Mi Note 3 and Mi Mix 2 all don’t have headphone jacks (the headphone adapters aren’t going to cut it)! Curse you Apple. We knew it was coming, I guess. They’re all a similar size to my old phone at least and fit the phone holder as well.
Mi Mix 2 looks like it will get updated for some time but that's starting to get heavy (185 g/6.53 oz) too:
https://www.lineageosrom.com/2018/01/xiaomi-devises-getting-android-p.html
The Nokia 8 actually looks very good value with same CPU as the Mi Mix 2 (and similar weight) but with the headphone jack, but the Lineage devs are waiting on the bootloader to be unlockable for that.
I think I’ll have to wait. At least I have a better idea of what I’m looking for. Would be nice if the stats.lineageos.org site showed the newer phones’ popularity/trend in another table.
Mm, you have a point there. The Mi Note 2 or the original Mi Mix maybe? The upcoming Redmi Note 5 (with the SD636) is also promising to be a good deal. Otherwise some Nubia (Z17 lite for instance) and maybe even LeTV phones with a custom ROM might be worth a look (although I'm not sure about the build quality from LeTV). Just check the XDA thread of the device beforehand and always stick to Qualcomm processors as Mediatek gives crap support to both producers and ROM developers.
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Mm, you have a point there. The Mi Note 2 or the original Mi Mix maybe? The upcoming Redmi Note 5 (with the SD636) is also promising to be a good deal. Otherwise some Nubia (Z17 lite for instance) and maybe even LeTV phones with a custom ROM might be worth a look (although I'm not sure about the build quality from LeTV). Just check the XDA thread of the device beforehand and always stick to Qualcomm processors as Mediatek gives crap support to both producers and ROM developers.
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Thanks for those. Mi Note 2 and orignial Mi Mix are a bit old (hey, one of the earlier posts has made me only look at 2017 or later phones). The Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Pro phone is a bit heavy at around 180gm (my 64gb Mi5 is 129gb).
The LeTv/LeEco phnoe have two, more-recent releases that look reasonable but from those the LeEco Le Pro3 Elite has the same chipset as my Mi5 and the LeEco Le Pro 3 AI Edition has a Mediatek chipset (taking your advice on ruling out phones with those).
The Zubia Z17 lite looks a decent option (168gms is getting up there is weight) but just saw its finger print scanner is rear-mounted too.
Will keep looking!
On the 24. April Xiaomi will present the new Mi 6X. Details so far unknown, but will probably be the successor of the Mi 6.
patoberli said:
On the 24. April Xiaomi will present the new Mi 6X. Details so far unknown, but will probably be the successor of the Mi 6.
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No separate 3.5mm/headphone jack. Looks nice though. I refuse to get wireless earphones or use any dongle. I bought some nice wired earphones not too long ago.
Sounds like the Mi7 might be out sometime this year too (but, again, probably won't have a 3.5mm/headphone jack).
Hello Friends,
I Need Your Important suggestion on Buying a New Phone.
Actually I was Using Micromax Nitro A311 with Custom Resurrection Remix v 5.8.5 ROM.
And I need to buy a New Phone But I am Very Confused With Which Phone to Buy under 15K.
Since I have Several Options are Available such as Redmi Note 5 Pro, Asus ZenFone Max M1, Realme 1, Redmi Note 5.
So Please Help me Out by suggesting, Which Phone to Buy. Since I need a Phone for Long Term Usage which should also support Rooting and Custom Roms.Performance and Battery Life is also a Concern.
My Two Cents..
rxrkr said:
Hello Friends,
I Need Your Important suggestion on Buying a New Phone.
Actually I was Using Micromax Nitro A311 with Custom Resurrection Remix v 5.8.5 ROM.
And I need to buy a New Phone But I am Very Confused With Which Phone to Buy under 15K.
Since I have Several Options are Available such as Redmi Note 5 Pro, Asus ZenFone Max M1, Realme 1, Redmi Note 5.
So Please Help me Out by suggesting, Which Phone to Buy. Since I need a Phone for Long Term Usage which should also support Rooting and Custom Roms.Performance and Battery Life is also a Concern.
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Hello...
For what it's worth.. I suggest the Xiaomi Note 5 Pro.
The Snapdragon 636 is a fine engine.. and the Price-To-Performance ratio is amongst the very best.
You just can't go wrong.. wether you leave it basically stock.. or go all out root/roms etc.
Happy Shopping!
rxrkr said:
Hello Friends,
I Need Your Important suggestion on Buying a New Phone.
Since I have Several Options are Available such as Redmi Note 5 Pro, Asus ZenFone Max M1, Realme 1, Redmi Note 5.
So Please Help me Out by suggesting, Which Phone to Buy. Since I need a Phone for Long Term Usage which should also support Rooting and Custom Roms.Performance and Battery Life is also a Concern.
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Just like that, you know you are on rn5pro threads so i guess majority will recommand their phone so the rn5pro....
Those who are not satisfied are no more here so i guess no one will tell you max m1.
ask in max m1 and i guess they will tell you to buy max m1.
Human nature, we recommand what we have except if really bad product, which is not the case here as spotted, ratio performance/price is just fine af
Just check if you can still unlock (even 360 hours what is that in a recent phone life time)
Hello Friends,
Could You Please help me out by Recommending a Device between Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1 and Redmi Note 5 Pro.
Actually i am Currently Using MMX Nitro A311 with ResurrectionRemix ROM. And I need to upgrade to a New Device.
Actually Both the RNote5Pro and ProM1 both make a Tough Competition and with similar specs , making it really tough to choose from. So it is difficult for me in selecting one in my Budget of 15K.
I am Basically in to Info-Sec Field so I need a phone which I can Root Easily and install custom ROM(s) ,if needed. And I need a Decent Good Battery Backup & Processing Power so that I can manage my Studies and Work. And Want Complete Control of my Phone. And I need to Use My Next Phone for a Pretty Long Duration 2-3 Years.
I would Basically use my Phone for Calls, Chats, Youtube, Watching Tutorials, Reading PDFs and Camera is needed for Recording Purpose. Other than that I would use it for TESTING Apps and for Other Info-Sec Purposes.
Since I read that Xiaomi has some issues Now in Rooting and Now with that Anti-Rollback its now more critical.
So Please help me Out by Suggesting.And Leaving Your Kind Genuine Reviews.
Thanks in Advance,
Regards,
Rahul
rxrkr said:
Hello Friends,
Could You Please help me out by Recommending a Device between Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1 and Redmi Note 5 Pro.
Actually i am Currently Using MMX Nitro A311 with ResurrectionRemix ROM. And I need to upgrade to a New Device.
Actually Both the RNote5Pro and ProM1 both make a Tough Competition and with similar specs , making it really tough to choose from. So it is difficult for me in selecting one in my Budget of 15K.
I am Basically in to Info-Sec Field so I need a phone which I can Root Easily and install custom ROM(s) ,if needed. And I need a Decent Good Battery Backup & Processing Power so that I can manage my Studies and Work. And Want Complete Control of my Phone. And I need to Use My Next Phone for a Pretty Long Duration 2-3 Years.
I would Basically use my Phone for Calls, Chats, Youtube, Watching Tutorials, Reading PDFs and Camera is needed for Recording Purpose. Other than that I would use it for TESTING Apps and for Other Info-Sec Purposes.
Since I read that Xiaomi has some issues Now in Rooting and Now with that Anti-Rollback its now more critical.
So Please help me Out by Suggesting.And Leaving Your Kind Genuine Reviews.
Thanks in Advance,
Regards,
Rahul
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Go for the 6gb variant of the Zenfone Max pro M1. Xiaomi is a headache in terms of unlocking bootloader. I got permission to unlock months ago but I'm still not able to unlock it. Planning to sell my note 5 pro and get Zenfone Max pro!
Recommending something can be biased unless you havent tried both and yes its tough choice to make. Now that 6 gigs version of Asus zenfone max pro is released it can surely out perform 5 pro and in your case for a device to stay as much as 2-3 years i would vote hands down for max pro m1 6 gigs since 4+64gigs will age by that time. only thing which was letting max pro down compared to 5 pro was camera which now said to be improved since asus isnt launching zenfone 5 in india so its they're best bit in budget segment market. Speaking of development on both phone should be the same since both are powered by same processor and are treble enabled.
and Yes I am frustated with unlocking bootloader and antiroll thing since its only way they make money by making people use their bloatware and UI which is otherwise in asus case
so verdict ASUS FOR THE GO.
100% Redmi Note 5 Pro
And
Mi A2 Coming Shortly
myron2699 said:
Go for the 6gb variant of the Zenfone Max pro M1. Xiaomi is a headache in terms of unlocking bootloader. I got permission to unlock months ago but I'm still not able to unlock it. Planning to sell my note 5 pro and get Zenfone Max pro!
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I actually sold my RN5 Pro yesterday and will get Asus. Left all the groups of Telegram too. It's not worth investing time in custom roms anymore since it's a lot of headache with anti3/4, unlock bootloader etc.
I've used the 4GB Asus variant for few days, exchanged my ph with a friend, I won't say it's bug free phone but there is no phone that's bug free. For Asus: Once you've got used to receive otas from oem, security patches every bi monthly, stock Android with few addons ( double tap), can unlock unofficially and relock for warranty, I feel Asus has a lot of advantage here.
I'm pretty sure few will tell you about prior issues they had specially with Asus Zenphone phs that were based on Intel cpus but I would suggest you to ignore. Asus has learned from such mistakes, went with SD this time which I'm sure will get good dev support if you're into flashing roms.
For me, getting a stock rom ph, easy to root/unlock bootloader just to use ad blocker, good battery life, decent hardware, no boatloader 20 days waiting, no anti3/4, no mi fans nonsense. I've heard the camera outperforms RN5P but I haven't checked about it since I'm sure all mid end phs does the social sharing job. I'm investing my money with Asus this time.
simple sir , go for asus if your main priority into custom roms etc , you can simply unlock and flash anything right after buying .
this redmi note 5 pro/ai maybe good at camera but asus max pro m1 seems had an advantages on other specs.
lawong said:
simple sir , go for asus if your main priority into custom roms etc , you can simply unlock and flash anything right after buying .
this redmi note 5 pro/ai maybe good at camera but asus max pro m1 seems had an advantages on other specs.
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The only thing better with Asus is the bigger battery. I don't understand how it has advantage in other specs? It does not support WiFI a/ac nor does it have an IR blaster for example and there is no mention of presence/absence of Gorilla Glass on Asus. Now I have a RN5 AI, so this has better camera specs than all M1 variants, but the RN5Pro still has a slight advantage with 3/4gb vs 3/4gb variants.
Yes the Xiaomi made i d*ck move by implementing ARB without making possibility to disable it, but you can still flash custom roms just as you always did, it's the unlocking method that's a bit more confusing than it was.
Don't get me wrong, I'm just stating the facts, you can check the specs by yourself.
Of course being on the Xiaomi forums there has to be a bit of bias for it, but in the end you go for what you want/need/have money for. The devices are similar, what made me lean to this side was better camera specs (f/1.9 aperture, dual pixel focus and bigger sensor), WiFi support, IR blaster and a rich modding community. Now I never used Asus devices nor do I know it's modding potential and devs interest, but I guess it's going to be good enough since it's cheap. The RN5 got a head start though, a lot of good devs are here.
Cirra92 said:
The only thing better with Asus is the bigger battery. I don't understand how it has advantage in other specs? It does not support WiFI a/ac nor does it have an IR blaster for example and there is no mention of presence/absence of Gorilla Glass on Asus. Now I have a RN5 AI, so this has better camera specs than all M1 variants, but the RN5Pro still has a slight advantage with 3/4gb vs 3/4gb variants.
Yes the Xiaomi made i d*ck move by implementing ARB without making possibility to disable it, but you can still flash custom roms just as you always did, it's the unlocking method that's a bit more confusing than it was.
Don't get me wrong, I'm just stating the facts, you can check the specs by yourself.
Of course being on the Xiaomi forums there has to be a bit of bias for it, but in the end you go for what you want/need/have money for. The devices are similar, what made me lean to this side was better camera specs (f/1.9 aperture, dual pixel focus and bigger sensor), WiFi support, IR blaster and a rich modding community. Now I never used Asus devices nor do I know it's modding potential and devs interest, but I guess it's going to be good enough since it's cheap. The RN5 got a head start though, a lot of good devs are here.
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i own both devices sir , i buyed redmi note 5 ai at the end of May and recently last week asus max pro m1 , i didnt use ir blaster and i dnt really know what is wifi a/ac .
from both device what makes me choose max pro m1 because the battery can last longer than my rn5 about an hour + in same usage , its has rgb led notification , the bottom speaker was way to better than rn5 , dedicated memory slot so nice if im planned to sell my rn5 and use with 1 device only, easily unlock bootloader and flash it with twrp+root without worrying anything , and cheaper than my rn5
sorry if something not right here ,its my own opinion sir im still xiaomi user for more than 15 devices variant , just comparing it with my own experience of usage .
Just wait for MI A2.
SDM660
8 August.
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lawong said:
i own both devices sir , i buyed redmi note 5 ai at the end of May and recently last week asus max pro m1 , i didnt use ir blaster and i dnt really know what is wifi a/ac .
from both device what makes me choose max pro m1 because the battery can last longer than my rn5 about an hour + in same usage , its has rgb led notification , the bottom speaker was way to better than rn5 , dedicated memory slot so nice if im planned to sell my rn5 and use with 1 device only, easily unlock bootloader and flash it with twrp+root without worrying anything , and cheaper than my rn5
sorry if something not right here ,its my own opinion sir im still xiaomi user for more than 15 devices variant , just comparing it with my own experience of usage .
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Oh sorry, forgot to mention the separate slot for SD card, which indeed is nice to have and RGB led which I didn't know it has But since I only use one SIM that's not something I need and speaker wise, it's good enough for me
In the end, one has to choose based on his needs and preferences, I would go for RN5, but that's my 2 cents we are giving pros and cons for both anyway
From reviews that I saw, the Zenfone has a pretty slow fingerprint scanner than the RN5. But they might've fixed that in an update. If I was in India, I'd go for the Zenfone (I wanted to get it before RN5 but I'm not in India), simply for the bigger battery. I'm not much of a camera guy, all I care about is lag free UI, decent gaming performance, good battery life, and sleek modern design.
Redmi note 5 pro, never had any problems in terms of modding & stuff. Besides it's very hard to get your hands on a Zenfone Max M1 (at least here in europe). The choice is yours, both are decent and 4 + 64 will be enough also in 3 years!
myron2699 said:
Go for the 6gb variant of the Zenfone Max pro M1. Xiaomi is a headache in terms of unlocking bootloader. I got permission to unlock months ago but I'm still not able to unlock it. Planning to sell my note 5 pro and get Zenfone Max pro!
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Just bit off IP. If you have still troubles with unlocking bootloader. Only thing you need is to use kinda very old Mi Unlock app. I am in work, so I cant provide you with the exact version I used, but I didnt have to wait that ridiculous time. Just PM and I will send u.
It's supposed to launch/reveal in May. I have the 5z now and been nothing but happy with the phone. From rumors I've read it's supposed to have the 855sd processor and higher mp cameras 48mp rear with triple cameras from what I've read
If the battery is significantly bigger than the one in the 5z I may end up grabbing and selling my 5z if I like the design and features of the 6z. Not interested in the pop up front cameras tho that may be a reason I pass
Are you keeping a eye on the 6z or are you content with your 5z?
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No need. I just want Lineage OS
No. I'm done with ASUS
sedp23 said:
It's supposed to launch/reveal in May. I have the 5z now and been nothing but happy with the phone. From rumors I've read it's supposed to have the 855sd processor and higher mp cameras 48mp rear with triple cameras from what I've read
If the battery is significantly bigger than the one in the 5z I may end up grabbing and selling my 5z if I like the design and features of the 6z. Not interested in the pop up front cameras tho that may be a reason I pass
Are you keeping a eye on the 6z or are you content with your 5z?
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Yes, if they offer a good buyback option for 5Z users like me OR a healthy discount on a trade in. Otherwise no, I'm happy with this phone and I plan to keep it for at least 3 more years.
Rumored to have a 5000 mAh battery now it's getting interesting
https://www.gsmarena.com/asus_confirms_snapdragon_855_and_headphone_jack_on_zenfone_6-news-36962.php
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If the Price is right, I will.
Probably not.
I had 3 Zenfones in my life and they improved a lot of things,
but the camera it's still the thing I was expecting more. Always a good hardware and bad software.
Development is virtually nonexistent for this device so will never buys an asus product ever, the camera is a joke on Zenfone 5z so forget about buying the 6z
fusioncoast said:
Development is virtually nonexistent for this device so will never buys an asus product ever, the camera is a joke on Zenfone 5z so forget about buying the 6z
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Camera was rated pretty high on the 5z by dxo mark
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I never buy Asus phone in the future , Bad camera Big joke, battery is a joke too , Asus apps are a big joke too ....
I buy oneplus or Samsung phone or Xiaomi mi 9 ...
Huawai die , other manufacturers are ****ty .... Pixel 3a are a bit joke with their problèmes ....
Renaf2 said:
I never buy Asus phone in the future , Bad camera Big joke, battery is a joke too , Asus apps are a big joke too ....
I buy oneplus or Samsung phone or Xiaomi mi 9 ...
Huawai die , other manufacturers are ****ty .... Pixel 3a are a bit joke with their problèmes ....
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Since zenfone 6 changed the ui to a clean stock android, no bloatware, improve camera, giant battery, etc.
And with unlock tool and kernel source code already available, the custom rom community might get a lot of improvement than 5z as well.
https://www.asus.com/Phone/ZenFone-6-ZS630KL/HelpDesk_Download/