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Should I get a one x ?

Hey guys ..... Just wanna take your advice about the one x ,since I want to get one...but want it to be as I want ....
1.does it lag ?? That's the most thing that pisses me off..
2.how's the battery??does it drain quickly ?
3.are games fast ?
Thanks in advance

donhashem.dh said:
Hey guys ..... Just wanna take your advice about the one x ,since I want to get one...but want it to be as I want ....
1.does it lag ?? That's the most thing that pisses me off..
2.how's the battery??does it drain quickly ?
3.are games fast ?
Thanks in advance
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1- you've never seen something faster than this
2- it depends on the usage
3-yes, it is good to play
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donhashem.dh said:
1.does it lag ?? That's the most thing that pisses me off..
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In stock ICS, yes. Apparently it's better (gone??) in JB, but I haven't got my update yet, so can't comment.
2.how's the battery??does it drain quickly ?
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Average. The standby (or sleeping) power consumption is really good, and things like browsing the Web and listening to music are pretty good too, but CPU intensive tasks can really drain the battery. I fairly easily get a whole day out of it with moderate to heavy usage.
3.are games fast ?
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My HOX is still pretty new, but yes, I think so. It's handled everything well so far.
Thanks in advance
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No problem.
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If your budget is big enough, I might advice you to look for the improved version of the phone, One X+ that is. It comes with JB, a faster processor and bigger storage (64GB). If budget is limited then get the One X. You can take a look at the Nexus 4 too and see if you like it or not, it depends on what you need.
Not trying to keep you from the One X or anything, its a great phone and its been working fine for me for the past 7 months and can definitely last more than 2 years. I'm just telling you to check the market for all the options so you are 100% confident with your decision.
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donhashem.dh said:
Hey guys ..... Just wanna take your advice about the one x ,since I want to get one...but want it to be as I want ....
1.does it lag ?? That's the most thing that pisses me off..
2.how's the battery??does it drain quickly ?
3.are games fast ?
Thanks in advance
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1. I found that on stock ICS, the One X did lag sometimes when multiple apps were open. If you are willing to flash a custom ROM, or when the stock Jelly Bean update is installed, it should have no lag because of project butter. I am on the CyanogenMod 10 ROM and it is lightning fast, and I have never noticed any lag at all.
2. The battery depends on the usage of the phone. I have found that after a usual day of usage, I have about 25-35% battery left, and this includes using power-hungry games.
3. Yes, the games are insanely fast, due to the Tegra 3 processor. Nvidia have a really strong background in gaming (due to all of their PC GPU's), and this really shows when playing any game.
Hope this helps

Defo get one root it and get ARHD on it , smooth as with zero lag

IMO, if you can afford it, go for the One X+ instead of the One X. That bigger battery is really something to consider however, I see no big difference apart from that (better GPU and higher CPU/GPU clocks are no big deal IMO). If you can't afford it or if you find the extras on the One X+ no big deal, get the One X w/o a moment's hesitation

Why is anybody still looking at a device with the locked down misery the is HTC bootloader when a Nexus 4 is better in just about every way and costs less?

Azurael said:
Why is anybody still looking at a device with the locked down misery the is HTC bootloader when a Nexus 4 is better in just about every way and costs less?
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Because the Nexus 4 has a much cheaper build quality, has glass on both sides which makes it more prone to smashing (Gorilla Glass 2 isn't unbreakable) and HTC Sense is really good for consumers that will keep the phone as it is (Sense does have a lot of great features), not to mention the worst fact that there are no capacitive buttons on the Nexus 4, which means that screen real estate is taken up by the on-screen buttons. Also, in my opinion, the device looks ugly, especially on the back with that awful looking camera and the weird sparkly effect.
Still, I do think that the wireless charging is really cool, and I can see why people buy the nexus devices to get stock android immediately. I also realise that it feels cheaper because it is cheaper.
I just think that the negatives of the Nexus 4, and the positives of the One X make the One X a much better phone, and if you want an unlocked bootloader, if you go to htcdev.com, they could not have made it simpler to do.

I just got my HTC One X last week.
I got it because I was really tired of the lag of my HTC Sensation XE (1.5 GHz Dual Core with 780+ MB of RAM).
I loaded all my previous apps on the One X (so I would have a fair comparison), I can tell you there is a HUGE difference in speed. It was really much more than I hoped for. The One X is very much faster and task switching is immediate.
Opening/browsing/closing the Google Play was a real pain on the Sensation XE, but on the One X it's really smooth and satisfying.
For the battery, it's about the same of my Sensation XE. But considering the One X has a bigger screen and a quad core, I was happy with the battery life (I was expecting a shorter battery life). I have the data on all day long (3G only, HSDA network) with many apps syncing and moderate usage (including watching youtube), I can survive a full day easily (7 AM - 12 midnight).
For games, I don't play games so I can't tell.
Hope this helps.
Edit: Forgot to mention that I'm still on ICS, as Jelly Bean is not out yet for my region. My old Sensation XE was on ICS too.
Also, my HTC One X is all stock, no roots or custom ROM. So if you want more speed (although I don't see why) you can put a stock JB ROM and other users say it will get smoother.
After more days spent with my new phone, still can say that I am in love with my One X.

Havoc2510 said:
Because the Nexus 4 has a much cheaper build quality, has glass on both sides which makes it more prone to smashing (Gorilla Glass 2 isn't unbreakable) and HTC Sense is really good for consumers that will keep the phone as it is (Sense does have a lot of great features), not to mention the worst fact that there are no capacitive buttons on the Nexus 4, which means that screen real estate is taken up by the on-screen buttons. Also, in my opinion, the device looks ugly, especially on the back with that awful looking camera and the weird sparkly effect.
Still, I do think that the wireless charging is really cool, and I can see why people buy the nexus devices to get stock android immediately. I also realise that it feels cheaper because it is cheaper.
I just think that the negatives of the Nexus 4, and the positives of the One X make the One X a much better phone, and if you want an unlocked bootloader, if you go to htcdev.com, they could not have made it simpler to do.
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I think you have some good points, however I have both right next to me at the moment. I wouldn't say that either has better build quality. They're very different design philosophies. If you like the feel of the iphone 4s then the nexus will be better but if you like the lumia polycarbonate style then the one x for sure. For me I prefer the nexus simply because it makes it feel more like a grown ups phone as opposed to a toy so much.
Otherwise it's pretty night and day in terms of usability. The nexus 4 is a lot quicker and smoother and cooler. The one x does win on screen and camera though.
OP if you don't like lag this is a no brainer, the nexus is much better.
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Havoc2510 said:
Because the Nexus 4 has a much cheaper build quality, has glass on both sides which makes it more prone to smashing (Gorilla Glass 2 isn't unbreakable) and HTC Sense is really good for consumers that will keep the phone as it is (Sense does have a lot of great features), not to mention the worst fact that there are no capacitive buttons on the Nexus 4, which means that screen real estate is taken up by the on-screen buttons. Also, in my opinion, the device looks ugly, especially on the back with that awful looking camera and the weird sparkly effect.
Still, I do think that the wireless charging is really cool, and I can see why people buy the nexus devices to get stock android immediately. I also realise that it feels cheaper because it is cheaper.
I just think that the negatives of the Nexus 4, and the positives of the One X make the One X a much better phone, and if you want an unlocked bootloader, if you go to htcdev.com, they could not have made it simpler to do.
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Haha, just make sure you don't get an operator branded phone or be unlucky enough to get one with an uncommon CID, yes. But you've still got a device manufacturer telling YOU what YOU can do with the device YOU own. Which sucks.
If the HOX is so much better than the Nexus 4, then you'll have to show me the fields of people waiting to swap my immaculate HOX for one. I suspect they don't exist though.
Yes, different things appeal to different people, and the industrial design of the HOX is nice, but I suspect from what I've read the N4 could not really be considered to have 'inferior build quality'. I don't even like the idea of a dual-faced glass device, but I'd still have one to get that device at that price. Either way, given that the N4 should be just over half the price, there's simply no competition.

HTC One X or Nexus 7?
Azurael said:
Haha, just make sure you don't get an operator branded phone or be unlucky enough to get one with an uncommon CID, yes. But you've still got a device manufacturer telling YOU what YOU can do with the device YOU own. Which sucks.
If the HOX is so much better than the Nexus 4, then you'll have to show me the fields of people waiting to swap my immaculate HOX for one. I suspect they don't exist though.
Yes, different things appeal to different people, and the industrial design of the HOX is nice, but I suspect from what I've read the N4 could not really be considered to have 'inferior build quality'. I don't even like the idea of a dual-faced glass device, but I'd still have one to get that device at that price. Either way, given that the N4 should be just over half the price, there's simply no competition.
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Fair play, but if you read what you said again, you said:
'If the HOX is so much better than the Nexus 4, then you'll have to show me the fields of people waiting to swap my immaculate HOX for one. I suspect they don't exist though'
That just practically means that no-one is swapping a One X for a Nexus 4. Well done :laugh:
And in response to 'letom', I do like the Nexus 4, and the price together with the fresh OS is why a lot of people would choose to buy one. I'm just saying that if I had no phone again and I had to buy one, I would still probably get the One X. I just like the premium feel and the screens on HTC phones are unbeatable (I also really like the camera). And yes, running Sense and with all the apps that HTC forces upon you (like 7Digital), it is more laggy than the Nexus 4. All you have to do is root it and install CM10, and they both have zero lag.
And I think we can all agree, Android > iOS anyday
Actually no, if I had no phone, I would wait for the HTC M7 (rumoured to launch Q1 2013). The Droid DNA is just the warm-up phone in the build up to the M7. Although, it is still all rumours at the moment so we probably won't see or hear about it until MWC 2013.

The problem is I bet you the new HTC still won't be as smooth as the nexus 4. I have jelly Bean on my one x right now, and yes it's smooth but it's not up there with how smooth the nexus is. Look at the reviews of the DNA they're saying it's still bogged down by sense. You should only be getting a HTC phone is you like sense, and live by it.
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No, just don't haha

M9 or Galaxy S6?

Are you going for the M9 or Galaxy S6? Can M9 still beat the odds?

RockySuarez said:
Are you going for the M9 or Galaxy S6? Can M9 still beat the odds?
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M9 all the way

Definitely m9 if it can take good pictures like m8 in low light. I'm really looking forward to see Toshiba 20mp camera. I don't care if m9 is not much different looking than m8 what I care about is the camera performance in low light because I know rest all will be awesome including boom sound,camera interface, sense 7 & build quality

Galaxy s6 ? what is a galaxy s6 ? a smartphone ?
LOL HTC M9 for sure

If this helps I recently traded in my m8 for the note 4 and it was pretty much a bad move on my part. If the touch wiz ui on the S6 is anything like what's on the note 4 you'd be wise to get the HTC. On the other hand, if you like phones that lag with the occasional 5-10 second freeze up then give it a shot.
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M9 because HTC will allow us Unlock the bootloader on any Carrier. :good:

Rtistique said:
M9 because HTC will allow us Unlock the bootloader on any Carrier. :good:
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Lol false. Not Verizon
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Galaxy S6.. I love touchwiz!

RockySuarez said:
Are you going for the M9 or Galaxy S6? Can M9 still beat the odds?
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I am going for HTC M9 as I like the look.

gs6 because samsung is the only company innovating, htc bringing the same design as last year, they dont even make their own internal parts

I had one samsung in the past, just one. The Samsung Infuse.
It had pretty colors, yeah.
But it sure was an ugly phone, and they haven't changed that.
Cheap plastic compared to a solid metal feel for the HTC
Cheap recycled TW elements since it was fist released vs the completely new Sense UI.
Thats just two major reasons for me. HTC is always better, and always will be.

.Ryker said:
I had one samsung in the past, just one. The Samsung Infuse.
It had pretty colors, yeah.
But it sure was an ugly phone, and they haven't changed that.
Cheap plastic compared to a solid metal feel for the HTC
Cheap recycled TW elements since it was fist released vs the completely new Sense UI.
Thats just two major reasons for me. HTC is always better, and always will be.
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The s6 has a metal frame and glass on both sides. personally I think samsung is really gonna raise the bar this time. The m9 is the m8 with a better camera. Not worth buying if you own the m8.

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The s6 has a metal frame and glass on both sides. personally I think samsung is really gonna raise the bar this time. The m9 is the m8 with a better camera. Not worth buying if you own the m8.
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As much as I hate to say it. I agree whole heartedly. I'm glad Samsung is doing away with plastic.

RockySuarez said:
Are you going for the M9 or Galaxy S6? Can M9 still beat the odds?
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Probably the M9 for me but we don't know yet because the announcements have not been done yet. I might take the LG G4 if it all disappoints.
What I want in a device:
On-screen buttons
HD+ screen
32GB+ storage
Micro-sd slot
5 inch+

haldi15 said:
gs6 because samsung is the only company innovating, htc bringing the same design as last year, they dont even make their own internal parts
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Innovation, riiiiiiiiiiiight
have fun with your extremely innovative curved screen which is actually a stupid gimmick, nothing more.

I have been loyal to htc for years. HTC TP, TP2, EVO 4G, EVO 3D, EVO LTE, M7, M8 and I'm sure you can guess what phone next. Anytime I use a samsung phone I can't stand touchwiz, it's truly awful and bloated. What would I do without the big clock widget? I hope it's still there this year.

Sim-X said:
I have been loyal to htc for years. HTC TP, TP2, EVO 4G, EVO 3D, EVO LTE, M7, M8 and I'm sure you can guess what phone next. Anytime I use a samsung phone I can't stand touchwiz, it's truly awful and bloated. What would I do without the big clock widget? I hope it's still there this year.
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I'd be putting a Nexus like ROM on either device, and while I REALLY want to buy the M9, the S6 just looks too good to pass up. If I was keeping it stock, I'd probably lean towards the M9.

So, now that we've seen the S6 marketing show - what are most thinking here? Love that HTC has fixed the low quality camera issue, would love to know if the MMS wonkiness is corrected too. I am very intrigued with the Edge screen on the S6 and the 1.9 aperture lens. Thoughts?

entropism said:
I'd be putting a Nexus like ROM on either device, and while I REALLY want to buy the M9, the S6 just looks too good to pass up. If I was keeping it stock, I'd probably lean towards the M9.
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Good luck getting AOSP roms on Exynos processors. Cyanogenmod dropped support for the exynos phones because it's not open-source. If you want AOSP roms, get the HTC when you really want HTC or Samsung. You could also wait until LG announces the G4. I hope that will have what I'm looking for..

The Samsung Marketing show was very glitzy compared with HTC, I've pretty much been a fan of HTC from having the Hero, Sensation and M7, however after seeing the M9 the only thing for me was the camera, don't get me wrong the phone looks lovely but IMO the S6 Edge had the 'edge' for me. I can't upgrade until November so by then the two devices will have been well and truly dissected by then to see which is better.

M9 is slower than M8?

I have used the M8 fora while, and its speed is amazing. I'm a fan of Samsung, but I always want the best thing, that's why last year I chose the M8. After reading many reviews, the problems like battery is gone (in some way, like it's bettery than S6), and overheating seems to be not a too big deal and still bearable.
But when I saw this speed test https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNN0I4zB5Wk
Can anyone else having two phones test this for me? Is it true that even the M8 is faster than M9? Thanks.

I'm going to blame it on the new architecture of the new chip-set, and manufactures not yet getting the hang of it. Gotta remember, the M8's software has had time to mature and they already know how to squeeze everything out of the 801.
I could be wrong, but it happens to everything when new hardware is released.

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I'm going to blame it on the new architecture of the new chip-set, and manufactures not yet getting the hang of it. Gotta remember, the M8's software has had time to mature and they already know how to squeeze everything out of the 801.
I could be wrong, but it happens to everything when new hardware is released.
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^^This^^

+1 I have both the m8 and m9, for ui and overall experience, the m9 is smoother, the only time I could say its "slower" is when gaming, I definitely notice lag there. That being said, the m8 was no where near what it is today when it was first launched. Same will go for this device. We don't even have kernel source yet, once we get that and they get a couple ota's in I'm sure this device will get even better, and better than the m8 hands down. We just gotta give it some time, there is a ton of potential here.

Personally I think the M8 is quicker overall as my M8 doesn't slow down during apps or games like the M9 does. Lollipop bogs down over time too. When this chip isn't throttling it's really quick, but it's always slowing down due to heat. If you haven't bought one, get it online so you can send it back after testing.
Phones never really improve over time with updates it's a myth and i've never found a ROM on a HTC that's quicker than stock either. What we have now is what we will be left with in 24 months.

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Personally I think the M8 is quicker overall as my M8 doesn't slow down during apps or games like the M9 does. Lollipop bogs down over time too. When this chip isn't throttling it's really quick, but it's always slowing down due to heat. If you haven't bought one, get it online so you can send it back after testing.
Phones never really improve over time with updates it's a myth and i've never found a ROM on a HTC that's quicker than stock either. What we have now is what we will be left with in 24 months.
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That's not completely true. The M7 shipped with horrible touch screen drivers and got fixed in the 2nd firmware release. The M8 camera is 2x better now than when it shipped new. HTC is constantly working on refining their drivers and software ... some for better some not (Zoe limitations come to mind, removal of Notes was another complaint).
Any way it's not fair to Assume HTC is going to release a new phone an not continue to refine the software and drivers like they have in the past.

I was using both the M8 and M9 for a week. I found the M9 to be faster in everything that I did. I'm not a gamer, so I can't comment about that. My M8 was fast. It snapped to every command I gave it, but my M9 is just unbelievable. I've also owned a Gs5, and it was slower than both.
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Also, you can't go by speed tests. Real world functioning is the only true test of speed. I have almost 400 apps with many running in the background. With the M9's 8 cores that's not a problem. Another reason why you shouldn't go by speed tests is they work differently on different processor architectures and operating systems. For example the M9 has a different architecture than the S6 and the iPhone. Just because they are all 64 bit doesn't mean they are built the same.
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hung2900 said:
I have used the M8 fora while, and its speed is amazing. I'm a fan of Samsung, but I always want the best thing, that's why last year I chose the M8. After reading many reviews, the problems like battery is gone (in some way, like it's bettery than S6), and overheating seems to be not a too big deal and still bearable.
But when I saw this speed test https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNN0I4zB5Wk
Can anyone else having two phones test this for me? Is it true that even the M8 is faster than M9? Thanks.
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I have made the same test with my M8 and M9 and it's true, M8 is faster than M9, exactly like in the video. I can't understand how HTC launched the M9 that way, being slower and having considerably worse display than last years M8.

I'm sure future updates will make it snapier and level.it with m8

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I'm sure future updates will make it snapier and level.it with m8
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Leveling it with the M8 is not enough (it would be welcome, but not enough). Snapdragon 810 should destroy M8's Snapdragon 801 in every speed/responsiveness aspect, and it doesn't do that. It should be as fast as Samsung S6's Exynos at least. It is shockingly disappointing.

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Leveling it with the M8 is not enough (it would be welcome, but not enough). Snapdragon 810 should destroy M8's Snapdragon 801 in every speed/responsiveness aspect, and it doesn't do that. It should be as fast as Samsung S6's Exynos at least. It is shockingly disappointing.
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yeah M9 sucks, i hope for the M10

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yeah M9 sucks, i hope for the M10
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I'm not disappointed, they all have their quirks in the beginning. It will get better.

Let's not jump all over the m9 say it's slow, I've had an m9 now for two weeks and was unsure about it performance so went and bought an s6 yesterday thinking it was going to be all singing all dancing mother ****er silky smooth ultra fast mega phone, oh boy was I wrong s6 lags like a mother ****er, hated it like I've never hated before.
The s6, It's a mess if you ask me, so today I packed the s6 up and took it back and got a refund.
Only thing wrong with the m9 is it needs some software refinements, which will come to the phone.
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raymond999 said:
Let's not jump all over the m9 say it's slow, I've had an m9 now for two weeks and was unsure about it performance so went and bought an s6 yesterday thinking it was going to be all singing all dancing mother ****er silky smooth ultra fast mega phone, oh boy was I wrong s6 lags like a mother ****er, hated it like I've never hated before.
The s6, It's a mess if you ask me, so today I packed the s6 up and took it back and got a refund.
Only thing wrong with the m9 is it needs some software refinements, which will come to the phone.
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Ok, maybe you are right about the S6, i haven't tried it too much. Anyway, it is unforgivable that the M9 is slower than M8. I hope HTC/Qualcomm will fix it in next updates.

I went from the S6 to the M9 and the HTC is hands down faster.

From the video, it's almost like it's a bus speed bottle neck as apposed to a cpu issue. Like it's indecisive about which cpu to use. Not saying it is or isn't. Just that the lag is consistent at app start up.
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raymond999 said:
Let's not jump all over the m9 say it's slow, I've had an m9 now for two weeks and was unsure about it performance so went and bought an s6 yesterday thinking it was going to be all singing all dancing mother ****er silky smooth ultra fast mega phone, oh boy was I wrong s6 lags like a mother ****er, hated it like I've never hated before.
The s6, It's a mess if you ask me, so today I packed the s6 up and took it back and got a refund.
Only thing wrong with the m9 is it needs some software refinements, which will come to the phone.
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What s6 are you using lol. I rooted and deboated and its a beast. It was quick out of the box too

Icyman said:
From the video, it's almost like it's a bus speed bottle neck as apposed to a cpu issue. Like it's indecisive about which cpu to use. Not saying it is or isn't. Just that the lag is consistent at app start up.
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Not only that, kinda odd how he counts the Twitter test in favor of the M8 when the M9 was clearly faster... (and maybe others, still checking the vid at this point)

The M9's problem is that the M8 was really good. We all expect the M9 to this giant improvement. The other thing is that the 810 processor is wholly different than anything before it. The software very likely needs to catch up with the hardware. Only time will tell.
Personally I think the two devices are pretty equal. I also wasn't expecting a big improvement over the M8. I certainly wouldn't call it worse though.

Thoughts on upgrading to M9

So I've been a loyal HTC customer since the first wildfire, then the sensation XE upto the M7. My 2 Year contract has just expired on the M7 and I have the choice of getting pretty much any new phone and I wanted the M9 at first but have read that the camera is sub-par and the screen isn't quite "up to date" in the android flagship space. I've also read that a camera update was recently sent out to M9 users but haven't seen much information of this update online. Is the camera that bad? And should I just get a Samsung Galaxy S6? Thanks in advance.

ShaheenXE said:
So I've been a loyal HTC customer since the first wildfire, then the sensation XE upto the M7. My 2 Year contract has just expired on the M7 and I have the choice of getting pretty much any new phone and I wanted the M9 at first but have read that the camera is sub-par and the screen isn't quite "up to date" in the android flagship space. I've also read that a camera update was recently sent out to M9 users but haven't seen much information of this update online. Is the camera that bad? And should I just get a Samsung Galaxy S6? Thanks in advance.
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I went from the M7 to the M9 and couldn't be happier. I would take anything you read with a grain of salt, because there are an awful lot of drive-by reviews in the mobile space.
The latest firmware updates have addressed the launch issues, especially with the camera. I'm not sure what to tell you about the screen, as it's the same resolution as the M7, and so is to some respects "behind" phones with Quad HD displays. But do you really need a 4K display on a 5" screen? I personally cannot tell any real difference between my son's G3 and my M9. You might feel differently.
The best thing to do is go to the mobile store and play with the options. I would never get a Samsung, personally, but that's because 1) I can't stand TouchWiz, which is still a bloated abortion compared to Sense, and 2) Samsung phones are so locked down that modding is extremely limited.
If you care about development, take a look at the S6 forums first—Samsung is actively trying to shut down every exploit and block features like Samsung Pay if your phone is modded. Meanwhile, we have HTCdev over here and plenty of modding options.

Thanks for your quick reply my friend. And I also agree with you I've been a fan of sense ever since I've had my first HTC and now with sense 7 out comparing it to the touchwiz on the s6, sense looks much more matured. And of course I love modding You saying that the update has helped has made me turn my head towards the M9 much more. Thanks

The m9 isnt worth updating from the m7. Its not a big enough step up to warrant a new contract.. Wait for the m9 to drop in price then consider it.
The m7 is a beast of a phone and the screen is better than the m9. The only noticable difference is app loading speeds. Otherwise the m7 is a better all round device for now.
Another point is that the m7 is still up-datable to lollipop and the development side of things for m9 is rather slow at the moment due to the extra work for 64bit and sunshine charging $25 for s-off is a bit ridiculous. A tenner maybe but twenty five is just devs being greedy and cashing in on an opportunity rather than keeping a community alive. Pure scum imho.
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Purchase an M9 or an M8

Hi All
I used to own an M9, youve probably seen me post on here before, however, I sold the M9 on as I was so dissappointed by the camera(I know its not an SLR, but the M9 camera wasnt even decent in low light and while I have my trusty Canon, as a candid photographer, Ii do like to have a "snapper" with me to catch those moments), but i do love the speakers and Im a huge fan of sense UI.
My local store have both the M8 for £350 and the M9 for £500, BNIB and both unbranded and I do know the M8 is getting sense 7 plus alot oif the M9 features
So as they are pretty much the same phone, Has the M9 phone and camera improved to warrant the £150 extra.. or should i Just grab the M8 and wait for the M10 next year.
Thanks

In my opinion (And the specs of course), the M9 is better than the M8 in every way.
The biggest issue people have is that the M9 didn't really bring any new features but there is doubt the M9 is the better phone which is a great achievement as the M8 really was the best phone released last year.

Electronic Punk said:
In my opinion (And the specs of course), the M9 is better than the M8 in every way.
The biggest issue people have is that the M9 didn't really bring any new features but there is doubt the M9 is the better phone which is a great achievement as the M8 really was the best phone released last year.
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Thanks for the reply, can I ask.. Have you noticed an improvement through updates in the camera since release
Thanks

I don't really use it to be honest, but in the thread at the top of this section there have been a great number of updates all around the device and that definitely includes camera updates.

I like the camera I use the fv-5 camera. I'M not a big picture taker. I had to Play with it to form my own opinion
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The M9 is an amazing phone... But the M8 is also an amazing phone. I think if you are going "on contract" or an installment plan, you might as well get the M9. If you are buying outside of a contract with the idea of upgrading in a year, I'd go with the M8 (if it's a lot cheaper).
As mentioned above, the M9 is a great phone and worth it if going the new to the "ONE" series of phones. The camera is better in almost every way, except in darker settings. I play in a band and spend a lot of time in dimly lit places (aka: night clubs). I like to take pictures of the crowd, my band and my gear while at a show...The M8 takes better pictures in this setting. I also spend a lot of time with the family camping and doing outdoors stuff and the M9 does an AMAZING job with outdoor/daytime shots, but as I mentioned already it does pretty bad with darker shots, whereas the M8 does much better. The M8 also does a decent job at day shots, but you can't really zoom in any while taking the picture or afterwards (crop in too much) without it being really grainy.
Everything else is pretty identical and I'd be hard-pressed to tell a difference in speed between the two while running programs and playing games. The M9 has a 64bit processor, but not sure that means a whole lot right now?
So basically.......You can't go wrong either way, just depends on how much you want to spend? Do you want a great phone (M8) or a greater phone (M9)?
Honestly.... As much as I like my M9, I wish I could go back and keep my M8 until the M10 came out.
One last thing to mention: If you're into custom ROMs, the M8 has MANY more custom ROMs available.....Sense, GPe, AOSP, CM, ect... But the one's available for the M9 seem much more stable.