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Desire (Bravo) - HTC Shipped Android 2.3 - Let's unlock the bootloader

Hi,
a few days ago, HTC released a developer version of Android 2.3 for the Desire on
http://developer.htc.com (they changed the developer web site now and maybe it isn't available any longer).
Fact is: Everyone who installed this ROM is currently unable to root it or downgrade it again because HTC added a new locked bootloader.
This thread is ment to work together to find ideas how to unlock the bootloader again.
It's known that HTC announces the official bootloader unlocking for all devices already. But nobody knows for sure, how long this will take and I bet here are a lot of people who don't want to just do nothing and wait for HTC to release it.
So, let's begin. Maybe there are also some advanced members who can support us.
At first the questions:
- How is the bootloader lock implemented (does it just have write protection or is there encryption involved)?
- How were bootloaders unlocked in the past?
And last: Even if we don't get far, it's worth a try! And we will gain important experiences. I personally love this.

I like the idea. How about xtc clip? Would it work with this boot? Or maybe we can write a petition to htc or do the while fb thing when they changed their mind and get us gungerbread. U would not mind even paying to get it unlocked.
Im sure if all of us donated to alpharev or unrevoked and get them to start working on it asap its possible?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA Premium App

Why not wait for either alpharev or unrevoked or both of them to release something. They do support out device so I don't see why they wouldn't try to find a way to unlock the new hboot.

I spoke to htc support and by looks of things our device is not on their list for unloocking bootloader, so we might not be lucky.
I guess wait for alpharev or unrevoked to come up with something.
So no one knows if xtc clip would work
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s3rvus said:
Hi,
a few days ago, HTC released a developer version of Android 2.3 for the Desire on
http://developer.htc.com (they changed the developer web site now and maybe it isn't available any longer).
Fact is: Everyone who installed this ROM is currently unable to root it or downgrade it again because HTC added a new locked bootloader.
This thread is ment to work together to find ideas how to unlock the bootloader again.
It's known that HTC announces the official bootloader unlocking for all devices already. But nobody knows for sure, how long this will take and I bet here are a lot of people who don't want to just do nothing and wait for HTC to release it.
So, let's begin. Maybe there are also some advanced members who can support us.
At first the questions:
- How is the bootloader lock implemented (does it just have write protection or is there encryption involved)?
- How were bootloaders unlocked in the past?
And last: Even if we don't get far, it's worth a try! And we will gain important experiences. I personally love this.
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The update is still available. They have just changed the webpage.
It on the same page as source code downloads
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA Premium App

I find it both amusing and frustrating that they have included a new hboot and yet now say it isn't even on their list of supported 'unlockable bootloaders' from their new htcdev site???

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Lothaen said:
I find it both amusing and frustrating that they have included a new hboot and yet now say it isn't even on their list of supported 'unlockable bootloaders' from their new htcdev site???
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+1 on this. Its simply against theyr policy they decide to unlock bootloaders and then they release a new hboot and even developer one and baam LOCKED

+1
alpharev + unrevoked >
http://revolutionary.io/
hope they achieve solution on this soon
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Apperantly htc service centre can downgrade for free
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Meaple said:
Why not wait for either alpharev or unrevoked or both of them to release something. They do support out device so I don't see why they wouldn't try to find a way to unlock the new hboot.
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Same thought.

Getting htc to unlock it would be much better than hacks imo.
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08r3308 said:
Apperantly htc service centre can downgrade for free
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Can you give source, please?

Check with customer service / book it in , depending who does it in your country/state.
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This page has an upcoming link to download a boot loader unlocker from hTC.
I would find it rather surprising if they have made an exception in this program for just the Desire. Why would they?

Not from that page but go to your htc repair centre and they will downgrade. Im waiting on confirmation from the repair centre
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Lothaen said:
I find it both amusing and frustrating that they have included a new hboot and yet now say it isn't even on their list of supported 'unlockable bootloaders' from their new htcdev site???
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Maybe htc thought like this: "do you people want so much the gingerbread update? Ok you will get the update but, as you wish so much it, you can't go back to froyo anymore! F** you and ur gingerbread update and go buy some new htc devices"
Regarding the bootloader there is a team that create super locked bootloaders, a team that is creating the web tool to unlock it, and the htc head boss that say "htc sensation? ok super blocked bootloaders and possibility to unlock it via web, htc desire? hm ok only super locked bootloaders, we don't need spend to much resources for an older device, .."
Just kidding..But htc should really change its politic!

andQlimax said:
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we don't need spend to much resources for an older device, .."
Just kidding..But htc should really change its politic!
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I can't really see how letting the desire get unlocked by the tool is “spending resources”, rather is it spending resources to omit a phone model, from what I understand.
Even more strange would be if htc pays good money to the service centers (here in Sweden at least this is third party, and not htc firms) to unlock boot loaders if they could have a web tool do it!

gerhard_wa said:
I can't really see how letting the desire get unlocked by the tool is “spending resources”, rather is it spending resources to omit a phone model, from what I understand.
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Well, every device is little different, have a different bootloader, different versions...That mean more people have to work to create, test, document it..In addition they will have a lot of people that will have problems doing it, so much work for the customer service again only for an older device (from their point of view)..Of course not only htc is like this, every producer want you to buy their new device..

andQlimax said:
Well, every device is little different, have a different bootloader, different versions...That mean more people have to work to create, test, document it..In addition they will have a lot of people that will have problems doing it, so much work for the customer service again only for an older device (from their point of view)..Of course not only htc is like this, every producer want you to buy their new device..
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I am quite convinced that the boot loader lock is pretty much the same for all devices and they just have to include (or exclude) the spec for all models.
They do not have to hack it, after all, they have written the source code themselves!

ok
so, can anyone confirm that unrevoked or any other group is working on it?

[Q] HTC One Toolkit [M8] - "

Hi.
Today I tried to root my HTC One M8 and found the HTC One Toolkit [M8] (actual version)
So I installed the driver of ADB and and HTC.
But if I click on HTC Dev Unlock I get the message "HTC One Toolkit [M8]"
I use Android 4.4.3 and USB-Debugging is on.
Can anyone help me?

Whity0815 said:
Hi.
Today I tried to root my HTC One M8 and found the HTC One Toolkit [M8] (actual version)
So I installed the driver of ADB and and HTC.
But if I click on HTC Dev Unlock I get the message "HTC One Toolkit [M8]"
I use Android 4.4.3 and USB-Debugging is on.
Can anyone help me?
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No offense against the guys that write these toolkits to make it "easier" but, stay away from it if you can, you don't really learn anything by using these toolkits.
That said,
Try and unlock the bootloader manually, as shown once when you sign up to htcdev.com and follow their instructions to get bootloader unlocked. OR
You can go for Sunshine S-OFF ($25) it roots, unlocks bootloader and gives S-OFF all-in-one.
http://theroot.ninja/
Sunshine Thread on xda

BerndM14 said:
No offense against the guys that write these toolkits to make it "easier" but, stay away from it if you can, you don't really learn anything by using these toolkits.
That said,
Try and unlock the bootloader manually, as shown once when you sign up to htcdev.com and follow their instructions to get bootloader unlocked. OR
You can go for Sunshine S-OFF ($25) it roots, unlocks bootloader and gives S-OFF all-in-one.
http://theroot.ninja/
Sunshine Thread on xda
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It technically only temp-roots. You still have to fully root using a custom recovery or adb push. However, once the bootloader is unlocked, that is fairly simple.
I would actually suggest that as an upgrade, though. It would be nice if, at the tail end of the process, Sunshine would offer to permanently root the phone.

Hi.
Now I unlocked the bootloader manually and installed twrp as custom recovery. After this I installed SuperSU over twrp to get root.
*//
All works fine, but I have a little problem.
Now i cant take screenshots. If I try, I get the message that no screenshot can be taken because the app can´t save them.
Does anyone have some ideas how I can fix it?
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Fixed "Created a folder called screenshot1 and delete the other screenshot folder. Once it is deleted remove the "1" so it still only Screenshot."
Additionally, I want to make the SD-Card writeable for all apps, has someone a link to tutorial?

[Q] How to get S-Off

My hboot boot version is 3.19.0.0000. Does anyone knows how to get a permanent s-off on this device. My device is completely rooted but still i cant remove the bloatwares it comes back after every restart.

theroot.ninja website
SunShine is a bootloader unlock (s-off) utility for HTC and now Motorola devices! 2.6.1 brings Moto X, Moto G, Droid Maxx/Ultra/Mini support!!! The initial price of SunShine is set at $25.00usd per device, payable via paypal or credit-card from within the application itself.

same here
My hboot boot version is 3.19.0.0000. Does anyone knows how to get a permanent s-off on this device.
My device is completely rooted but still i cant remove the bloatwares it comes back after every restart.
any solution guys

Help Bro..........help........................
ansu_ansh said:
My hboot boot version is 3.19.0.0000. Does anyone knows how to get a permanent s-off on this device. My device is completely rooted but still i cant remove the bloatwares it comes back after every restart.
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vegito87 said:
My hboot boot version is 3.19.0.0000. Does anyone knows how to get a permanent s-off on this device.
My device is completely rooted but still i cant remove the bloatwares it comes back after every restart.
any solution guys
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My hboot boot version is 3.19.0.0000. Does anyone knows how to get a permanent s-off on this device.
My device is completely rooted but still i cant remove the bloatwares it comes back after every restart.
any solution guys

Sunshine is not compatible for HTC Desire 820
cksamurai said:
theroot.ninja website
SunShine is a bootloader unlock (s-off) utility for HTC and now Motorola devices! 2.6.1 brings Moto X, Moto G, Droid Maxx/Ultra/Mini support!!! The initial price of SunShine is set at $25.00usd per device, payable via paypal or credit-card from within the application itself.
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The SunShine developers haven't released a mod for the HTC Desire 820. If you install the app, it tells you that the SunShine database does not recognise the phone's model. We need an alternative to this. Somebody please test Firewater S-OFF and post ASAP. Even I am stuck with perm-root but no busybox, no bloatware removal, nothing. The phone just restarts on account of the S-ON.

Htc Desire s off
Why s off in this device is impossible????

Is not impossible, the s-off with xtc2clip can't be done.
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Hello, dear
Try this mode , I managed to remove all bloatware from this process.
Just flash that img from flashify and reboot and than remove all bloatware.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3201149
Sent from my HTC Desire 820 dual sim

s off
Hello....but with this method the phone switches from s on as s off or not ? I wish that the phone is s off..thank you..

No, it's only for removing bloatware.
For s_off you have to follow next process,
http://highonandroid.com/android-howtos/how-to-get-s-off-htc-smartphones-using-firewater
Sent from my HTC Desire 820 dual sim

s off
Thank yuo but this is an old method I think that s off in this device is not possible now..

Making S off by firewater is not working. Just now I checked.

Brick my phone
YBS14881 said:
Hello, dear
Try this mode , I managed to remove all bloatware from this process.
Just flash that img from flashify and reboot and than remove all bloatware.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3201149
Sent from my HTC Desire 820 dual sim
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YBS14881 After your suggestion, I brick my phone and I had to reflash ROM

[Q] HTC one M8 OTA update issue lollipop

Hello all,
I am new to all this, techy stuff, and have recently bought a htc one m8. I had it rooted for me, but I didn't want to pay for GPE. I then found out Lollipop has been released, and tried to get it by going into software info on settings, but I couldn't get the lollipop update, as my phone says 'Your phone software is up to date with the latest version'. I realised that because of my root, my phone wasn't on the same channel as it was on before. I found another way to get lollipop, but that meant buying sunshine for $25. Is there another free alternative? I thought I could unroot my phone, then reroot it, but I do not know how to unroot, get update then reroot. Can I please get help?

Hi,
Thanks for writing to us at XDA Assist, in order to help you effectively I need to know which variant of the M8 you have please.

I have the gsm version

Ok, so it's not carrier branded at all?

no its not.
Going back to my question, i have actually found out my fone is on s-off bcus i had to unlock bootloader to root, meanin my fone is rooted with s-off. However, i would like to get gpe on my fone so i can get lollipop. Only issue is, the other methods do it on a normal htc one m8, not on a rooted htc one m8. Are the nethods the same meaning i can use the normal gpe conversion methods on my prerooted htc one m8, or do i need another method?

Thanks for the extra information, I'm actually asking you these questions for a reason, XDA Assist isn't a general technical support section so I needed to know exactly which variant you have in order to have this thread redirected correctly for you.
Please standby while we have your thread/question moved to the appropriate sub-forum for your device.
For future reference you can find your device sub-forum here (bookmark/subscribe this):
HTC One (M8)
Within that section you will find a dedicated q&a sub-forum (this is where your thread is going to be moved to):
One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting
Good luck!
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datbeastanon said:
no its not.
Going back to my question, i have actually found out my fone is on s-off bcus i had to unlock bootloader to root, meanin my fone is rooted with s-off. However, i would like to get gpe on my fone so i can get lollipop. Only issue is, the other methods do it on a normal htc one m8, not on a rooted htc one m8. Are the nethods the same meaning i can use the normal gpe conversion methods on my prerooted htc one m8, or do i need another method?
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Unlocking your bootloader doesn't make you S-Off. Boot into your bootloader to check.
To get into bootloader, turn off your phone. Then hold down the power button plus vol down till your phone boots back up. You'll get a readout there that will tell you if you are S-Off or S-On.
If you can confirm that you are S-Off, I will guide you to converting your phone to GPE.

xunholyx said:
Unlocking your bootloader doesn't make you S-Off. Boot into your bootloader to check.
To get into bootloader, turn off your phone. Then hold down the power button plus vol down till your phone boots back up. You'll get a readout there that will tell you if you are S-Off or S-On.
If you can confirm that you are S-Off, I will guide you to converting your phone to GPE.
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Thank you for telling me. I am not on s-off, i am on s-off.i know that firewater has been discontinued, so I have found a free alternative, moonshine. Please guide me through how to gain s-off for free.

datbeastanon said:
Thank you for telling me. I am not on s-off, i am on s-off.i know that firewater has been discontinued, so I have found a free alternative, moonshine. Please guide me through how to gain s-off for free.
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Apologies, i meant to say i am on s-on. Please guide me on how to get s-off for free using moonshine please. And yes, i mean moonshine, not sunshine. Also,if you know any others free alternatives to gain s-off, please reply to me. If not, please just tell me how to gain s-off using moonshine.

datbeastanon said:
Apologies, i meant to say i am on s-on. Please guide me on how to get s-off for free using moonshine please. And yes, i mean moonshine, not sunshine. Also,if you know any others free alternatives to gain s-off, please reply to me. If not, please just tell me how to gain s-off using moonshine.
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You can't use moonshine. The ONLY way to get s-off on this device is sunshine.

Yes, Sunshine, V3. And you are better off without the 5.0, if you want to S-OFF. Sunshine will most likely work on 4.4.4, and issues will appear while trying to S-OFF the Lollipop.

Mr Hofs said:
You can't use moonshine. The ONLY way to get s-off on this device is sunshine.
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Ok. Is there anyway for me to remove my root permanently and get lollipop for free? Please reply ASAP.

datbeastanon said:
Ok. Is there anyway for me to remove my root permanently and get lollipop for free? Please reply ASAP.
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yeah delete all superuser binaries, or return to your original stock backup that you made before messing around with root :laugh:

I have got my phone on bootloader, and I have a custom recovery file. However, I cannot seem to enter recovery mode. As I go to 'HBOOT' then 'RECOVERY' it shows the htc screen, but then it loads back to the bootloader screen. I have tried getting Hasoon's Toolkit and going into bootloader from here, and I have also tried getting a bat file and running that on my pc with my phone connected to it, same result. However, before this problem occurred, I had a message pop up, but this happened only once. This is what the message said:
SD Checking…
No Gift File…
Loading … ( OP6BDIAG.zip)
No image!
Loading … ( OP6BDIAG.nbh)
No image or wrong image!
Loading … ( OP6BIMG.zip)
Loading … ( OP6BIMG.nbh)
No image or wrong image!
After this, when I tried to go into recovery, the issue had then first occurred. Any suggestions on what to do? I have tried using a toolkit, a bat file, doing it through bootloader, and getting an app. Also, how can I clear my cache through bootloader?

Fastboot erase cache

datbeastanon said:
Ok. Is there anyway for me to remove my root permanently and get lollipop for free? Please reply ASAP.
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No need to unroot for OTA. And it's free anyhow.

Ok. You say no need to unroot for its, but I have my phone rooted, but I cannot get lollipop which was released 3 weeks ago on HTC one m8. Please help me so I can get OTA updates.
Sent from my HTC_0P6B using XDA Free mobile app

datbeastanon said:
Ok. You say no need to unroot for its, but I have my phone rooted, but I cannot get lollipop which was released 3 weeks ago on HTC one m8. Please help me so I can get OTA updates.
Sent from my HTC_0P6B using XDA Free mobile app
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Depends of your carrier. They handle the updates. Just wait.

datbeastanon said:
Ok. You say no need to unroot for its, but I have my phone rooted, but I cannot get lollipop which was released 3 weeks ago on HTC one m8. Please help me so I can get OTA updates.
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You need a stock rom and recovery. So either 1 or both are not stock. Go to the thread where you have been already (the stock backup thread in the general section) and read up in there. All info and what you need to do is written down there.
Edit :
Ah just not getting notified for the update ? Like been said, wait for them to push. Or there is a custom (stock like) rom on your phone. If thats the case my first part stands

Which thread? Please send a link?
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HTC One M9 bootloader unlocking

Hi, I currently have a Samsung GS4 and I am pretty pissed about how it doesn't have an unlocked bootloader. I was wondering, if I can run out to Verizon now and buy a HTC One M9 if I can unlock it and install cyanogenmod 12 onto it (eventually). WIthout buying a special verizon, is this possible?

iLeoable said:
Hi, I currently have a Samsung GS4 and I am pretty pissed about how it doesn't have an unlocked bootloader. I was wondering, if I can run out to Verizon now and buy a HTC One M9 if I can unlock it and install cyanogenmod 12 onto it (eventually). WIthout buying a special verizon, is this possible?
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Nope. Vzw doesn't allow boot loader unlocking. You will need to wait for sunshine app to update or seek out a user who has a Java card. @bschram is your closest user that has one.

So I cannot use HTC Dev website, and does sunshine require root to use it, and what is this http://venomroms.com/sunshine-s-off-for-the-htc-one-m9-released/

iLeoable said:
So I cannot use HTC Dev website, and does sunshine require root to use it, and what is this http://venomroms.com/sunshine-s-off-for-the-htc-one-m9-released/
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Verizon has HTC block their devices on HTC dev. Non vzw devices are fine.
Sunshine doesn't support vzw m9 or even the m8 if it has the latest os yet. Sunshine for the non Verizon m9 requires unlocking boot loader through HTC dev.
Make sense this time?

dottat said:
Verizon has HTC block their devices on HTC dev. Non vzw devices are fine.
Sunshine doesn't support vzw m9 or even the m8 if it has the latest os yet. Sunshine for the non Verizon m9 requires unlocking boot loader through HTC dev.
Make sense this time?
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Yes, It does. But just to be sure, will this ensure a full 100% on unlocked bootloader and if it needs root to root it, how will it start doing that?

iLeoable said:
Yes, It does. But just to be sure, will this ensure a full 100% on unlocked bootloader and if it needs root to root it, how will it start doing that?
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On the vzw m9 sunshine support will come when they figure out how to enable root and flip the s flag off all in one shot.
Your other alternative is to buy the phone and send it to a user who has a Java card. That process involves putting a special card in your SD slot and running see commands. You will end up with s-off and bootloader unlocked with that.

iLeoable said:
Yes, It does. But just to be sure, will this ensure a full 100% on unlocked bootloader and if it needs root to root it, how will it start doing that?
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With a NON Verizon HTC m9...unlock your boot loader through HTC dev....then you run sunshine to get S-OFF...once there you can do whatever you want...flash custom roms already rooted....stay stock Sense and flash whatever supersu you need for root...basically the world is your oyster at that point...lol
Verizon M9 should eventually get there (sunshine S-OFF), but until it does the java card S-OFF is the only way...and there are plenty of fine fellows here that can assist you if you so choose.
With that method..after you are S-OFF...you can run an adb command to unlock your boot loader and then from there the same as above.

bakemcbride21 said:
With a NON Verizon HTC m9...unlock your boot loader through HTC dev....then you run sunshine to get S-OFF...once there you can do whatever you want...flash custom roms already rooted....stay stock Sense and flash whatever supersu you need for root...basically the world is your oyster at that point...lol
Verizon M9 should eventually get there (sunshine S-OFF), but until it does the java card S-OFF is the only way...and there are plenty of fine fellows here that can assist you if you so choose.
With that method..after you are S-OFF...you can run an adb command to unlock your boot loader and then from there the same as above.
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Should add that the guys with cards are doing the works. S-off, bootloader unlock, twrp, and supersu.

dottat said:
Nope. Vzw doesn't allow boot loader unlocking. You will need to wait for sunshine app to update or seek out a user who has a Java card. @bschram is your closest user that has one.
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+1 for @bschram - Sorted my Verizon M9 a week ago --- Pre-root backup, S-off, install TWRP, root, and unlock bootloader.
Ready for me to install custom Rom

dottat said:
Should add that the guys with cards are doing the works. S-off, bootloader unlock, twrp, and supersu.
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Full service crew!

Only problem you will have afterwards is finding a Verizon CM12 ROM. Because as of now, this is what we have to work with...nothing. And from what I've heard, cm is no longer unifying devices. All I'm saying is its gonna be a bit of a road. However, if you don't mind waiting and running a sense based custom ROM for a while, then get it and have @dottat unlock everything for ya! I'm actually about to send him mine!

I don't know if any of you guys have heard of towelroot, but it only works for kitkat samsung devices on verizon, it might be possible that geohot will release an update for lollipop s5. and maybe someone will adapt that to fit the HTC One M9.

iLeoable said:
I don't know if any of you guys have heard of towelroot, but it only works for kitkat samsung devices on verizon, it might be possible that geohot will release an update for lollipop s5. and maybe someone will adapt that to fit the HTC One M9.
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highly doubt that...
http://www.polygon.com/2014/7/17/5911917/ps3-hacker-geohotz-hired-by-google