Good news that Google will replace Softcard, however, I just installed Wallet on my note 3 and there is no tap and pay. What is the point of switching from SoftCard with Tap and pay to Wallet without?
Does anyone know when/if google wallet will support tap and pay? Do I need a hack, like in the old days?
Has anyone got the note 3 to work with Wallet for tap and pay purposes?
Update: Called Google, They said that Wallet doesn't support the Secure Element in the Note 3, and cannot access the SE on the SIM that SoftCard used. So essentially, Google is turning off tap and pay access for all of us with non Sprint Note 3 phones. Google should at least replicate the functionality prior to turning it off. I thought the idea was to build up the tap and pay user base. By disabling softcard, they have actually reduced the tap and pay users. Very disappointing
It already does support it.
You need to have a valid card/bank account registered, NFC must be enabled and you must enable Tap and Pay in Settings.
rjohnstone said:
It already does support it.
You need to have a valid card/bank account registered, NFC must be enabled and you must enable Tap and Pay in Settings.
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I feel like a noob, but I've looked and can't find a tap-and-pay option in my settings.
You can enable the settings in smali. I don't know if they'll work or not though, as I could care less about tap & pay. I don't mind lifting my arm for the three and a half seconds it takes to swipe my card.
Thats the problem, no tap and pay option in wallet settings. I seem to recall the note 3 had a different secure element/nfc chip, and needed the isis sim to get around this. I fear wallet just will not work unless it is updated. Has anyone got this to work.
Stock rooted rom here, if that matters
nygmam said:
Thats the problem, no tap and pay option in wallet settings. I seem to recall the note 3 had a different secure element/nfc chip, and needed the isis sim to get around this. I fear wallet just will not work unless it is updated. Has anyone got this to work.
Stock rooted rom here, if that matters
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That might be it.
My Note 3 had a secure SIM from T-Mobile for Softcard, but Tap and Pay always worked for me with Google Wallet as well. Used it many times.
I have a Note 4 now and Tap and Pay works with GW there too... no secure SIM required.
hmmm
Morningstar said:
You can enable the settings in smali. I don't know if they'll work or not though, as I could care less about tap & pay. I don't mind lifting my arm for the three and a half seconds it takes to swipe my card.
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You could care less about tap and pay, why do you bother to participate in this thread with your dismissive comments? I do care that my phone has tap and pay. Don't be a ****.
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That might be it.
My Note 3 had a secure SIM from T-Mobile for Softcard, but Tap and Pay always worked for me with Google Wallet as well. Used it many times.
I have a Note 4 now and Tap and Pay works with GW there too... no secure SIM required.
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I just received lollypop, still no tap and pay. I uninstalled softcard and reinstalled wallet but tap and pay still isn't there. here's hoping google ill use the softcard functionality to update wallet to give us the tap and pay love. I'm glad its working for u, the rest of us are still in the card swipe stone age.
I wonder if Google already has a thread setup we can "star" for this issue...
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rjohnstone said:
That might be it.
My Note 3 had a secure SIM from T-Mobile for Softcard, but Tap and Pay always worked for me with Google Wallet as well. Used it many times.
I have a Note 4 now and Tap and Pay works with GW there too... no secure SIM required.
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I have tried with the softcard sim and without and tap and pay doesn't pop up in Google wallet .... which note 3 did you have? Thought none of them would work because of the drivers for the nfc chip ....goggle couldn't get them so they just disabled it .....
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Remember that Google Wallet exploit from a few days ago? The one that would allow*'brute-force' PIN attacks, but only on*rooted*Android devices? Well, another PIN-related security hole was discovered soon after, putting even non-rooted Androids at risk. As*Android Central points out, should your phone make its way into the wrong hands, your Google Wallet PIN number could be reassigned, allowing access to the prepaid account attached to the phone itself --*yikes. As such, the folks at Mountain View have taken action, shuttering provisions to prepaid cards until it finds a permanent fix for the problem. Despite the troubles, Google is sticking by its original tune, stating that Google Wallet offers multiples levels of protection (when used on*official*builds of Android) that go beyond traditional plastic cards, including your phone's lock screen. There's no estimate on when things will be back to normal, but you'll find Google's assessments and assurances about this situation at the source link below.
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...n-related-securi/&category=classic&postPage=1
Via :*Android CentralSource :*Google*
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Sigh, and if you lose your wallet what happens?
Anyone using their phone to make payments SURELY has a pin or pattern lock to protect their phones data... Right?
Would this be why I couldnt' use my "Wallet" tonight? Said it couldn't connect to the bank to get my account number. (the guy at McDonald's sure was looking at me funning trying to pay with my phone LOL)
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Sigh, and if you lose your wallet what happens?
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Exactly
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That second exploit has been posted in tons of forums almost since day one. Nothing new to report.
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Sigh, and if you lose your wallet what happens?
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I rather lose my phone than my wallet.
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it appears the the bank in charge of the prepaid cards has pulled its authorizations, just tried to set my wife's Wallet up on her phone and got the message:
"Prepaid is unavailable at this time. Please try again soon."
swiping my card is much more faster than turn on, unlock, tap, enter pin, tap, and then hit sent.
chevihemi said:
it appears the the bank in charge of the prepaid cards has pulled its authorizations, just tried to set my wife's Wallet up on her phone and got the message:
"Prepaid is unavailable at this time. Please try again soon."
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Yeah, when I sign in to my wallet account it says "Cannot contact bank" under "user id"
*sigh*
of course there are attacks for this. they should make pinning your phone mandatory for wallet. just like when you encrypt your device, it forces you to use either pin, password, or pattern, no slide or face. just copy that...
zeke1988 said:
swiping my card is much more faster than turn on, unlock, tap, enter pin, tap, and then hit sent.
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I just fully enjoy the look on the cashier's faces when paying with phone, not all that convenient but quite entertaining. Its the small things in life that bring joy, right??
hacky486 said:
they should make pinning your phone mandatory for wallet. just like when you encrypt your device, it forces you to use either pin, password, or pattern, no slide or face. just copy that...
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Absolutely. If I am forced to use a pattern/pin/password lockscreen in order to store my VPN credentials, Wallet should require the same - in addition to any security within the app.
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Absolutely. If I am forced to use a pattern/pin/password lockscreen in order to store my VPN credentials, Wallet should require the same - in addition to any security within the app.
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Google's lockscreen PIN setup sucks. There should be an option to automatically unlock the phone once the correct PIN has been entered, without having to press OK.
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Google's lockscreen PIN setup sucks. There should be an option to automatically unlock the phone once the correct PIN has been entered, without having to press OK.
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That is an option on most community ROMs... but then you would be rooted and breaking the First Rule of Wallet -whoops!
I use the pattern anyway. Works just like a PIN (think of the grid as a number pad) and sliding a finger across the screen is almost as quick as slide-to-unlock.
Come on, Google, let me use Wallet again!
Gotta love having money online that you can't use, access, or transfer. I just transferred a nice chunk of my paycheck onto google wallet right before this happened.
thunder2132 said:
Gotta love having money online that you can't use, access, or transfer. I just transferred a nice chunk of my paycheck onto google wallet right before this happened.
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yea this is a serious annoyance. luckily i only have like 12 bucks left on my prepaid card but I dont have a citi master card so its rather bs
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That is an option on most community ROMs... but then you would be rooted and breaking the First Rule of Wallet -whoops!
I use the pattern anyway. Works just like a PIN (think of the grid as a number pad) and sliding a finger across the screen is almost as quick as slide-to-unlock.
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Remove the root, relock bootloader. When you feel the need to update, do an adb backup, unlock and flash, restore backup, lock.
chirea.mircea said:
Remove the root, relock bootloader. When you feel the need to update, do an adb backup, unlock and flash, restore backup, lock.
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Me, I'd rather just keep the root. That's kind of the point of a Nexus device to me
I have the door lock and have some NFC stickers which work great
I have the Note and am trying to figure out how to use it with the door lock, but i cant get it to work i have NFC on and downloaded some apps
I put the Ezon in setup mode and the stickers register fine but not the phone, so im sure something is not right, but have no idea which
Won't work..
xboxhaxorz said:
I have the door lock and have some NFC stickers which work great
I have the Note and am trying to figure out how to use it with the door lock, but i cant get it to work i have NFC on and downloaded some apps
I put the Ezon in setup mode and the stickers register fine but not the phone, so im sure something is not right, but have no idea which
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As I understand it, the only way to get your phone to unlock the Samsung Ezon is to be using Google Wallet and use the Loyalty Cards feature. I don't think the Note has Google Wallet so you might be out of luck. I have been trying to do the same thing for months now with a One X, One, S4 and Nexus to no avail.
from a google search I found this quote
your mobile phone to be your access key. This would then allow you to control when your card is active and when it is not. If you have an Android device that supports Google Wallet, you’re all set. The trick is to have Google Wallet installed with at least one “Loyalty Card” setup in the wallet, then make sure the card is enabled. Doing this enables NFC card emulation on your device which will present a UID to the EZon when it is within range. This type of card emulation is different from your payment information (so you don’t have to worry about the lock charging your bank account each time you unlock it). You can then enroll your phone just like a physical access card to the EZon and use your phone to unlock the device. The added benefit is that when your phone’s screen is turned off, card emulation is off as well which makes things a lot harder to tap and then clone.
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I just installed my Ezon 6020 on saturday, and I havent been able to get it to detect me phone using the Commonwealth bank contactless app D:
it doesnt detect my usual credit cards either which surprised me...
did you find anything OP ?
any updates on this?
So some of you may know that today (11/14/13) ISIS went live nationally in the US. I popped into one of T-Mobile's many fine stores and replaced my sim card with a secure element sim card that will allow you to use ISIS. Well long story short I installed the google wallet app to find to my surprise that it worked! Check out the pictures below.
You can access Google Wallet (Thanks to PhantomRampage for correcting me)
Tap to pay does not work from what I see however if you have used it in the past and added your credit cards,
your cards will still exist. Someone will need to test this to see if maybe it could work regardless and if not then
maybe a patched .apk could be created to allow tap to pay?
This method might work on AT&T and Verizon phones as well (with an ISIS sim card)
Everyone can install the app from the market now, but only 'supported' devices can use the tap and pay function. Check to see if that option is available to you. Probably isn't.
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Everyone can install the app from the market now, but only 'supported' devices can use the tap and pay function. Check to see if that option is available to you. Probably isn't.
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Exactly. Everyone can install Wallet now, even non-NFC phones. They only enable the tap to pay and NFC functionality if the phone is "supported". If you want the tap to pay, I believe you still still have to mod it. I was using the framework mod and the build prop mod to get it to work. Pretty simple.
I installed CM11 on my N7100. Most of the things I'm finding online indicate since Android 4.4 uses host card emulation (HCE) instead of the secure element, any 4.4 ROM on any device should have Google Wallet's Tap and Pay feature enabled, but this doesn't seem to be the case. I haven't actually tried paying with my phone yet, but when I go into Google Wallet, there's no Tap and Pay Settings, so I'm pretty sure it's not working. Does anyone know why it's not working and what I can do about it?
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Am I the only person on the internet with this problem??
Seriously, I'm the only person with this issue??
no luck
Tahns said:
Seriously, I'm the only person with this issue??
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No luck with CM11 on tmo sg3.
Same issue here on M7spr running cm11 tried it at a store where I know works and no luck
Its working fine for me on ATT GS4. I just flashed the January 31 nightly and went and downloaded wallet from play store and it set it up on its own. No troubles at all for me yet with this ROM besides that the s-view cover does not work, but that's to be expected.
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You have to enable Tap & Pay within Google Wallet and make sure NFC is on. The Tap & Pay option in the settings menu only showed up on my phone after I did that.
I can't enable Tap & Pay within Google Wallet because it says "Not Available."
NFC is on. There's still no Tap & Pay option in the settings menu.
What device do you have?
1503
I have the same problem. I have a Verizon GS3 and it worked on CM10 up until they disabled devices running anything lower than 4.4. So I moved up to CM11 and my NFC is on. There isn't a "Tap & Pay Settings" option in the Wallet app anymore. And under the "Tap & Pay section in the main phone settings, Google Wallet is selected.
I found this over on the CM Forum.
For those of you who do not know what HCE is, it is what makes tap and pay work for apps such as Google Wallet when device is running Kitkat. Kitkat does not use secure element. Android 4.3 used secure element and that is why Google Wallet worked when running on Android Jellybean 4.3. I am quoting information below from another article i read.
"Tap and pay functionality is available in the US, and requires one of the following NFC-enabled Android devices with a Secure Element chip running 2.3 (Gingerbread) or higher on select carrier networks, or an NFC-enabled Android device running 4.4 (KitKat) or higher:
I read that as an either/or statement.. the second doesn't seem conditional to the first
EDIT: What they didn't tell us, according to Entropy512:
HCE support is missing from the AOSP stack for NXP NFC controllers. It only works on Broadcom (NCI) controllers. (Unless it was pushed as part of the android-4.4-r1.2 tag...)
So if you have a device with an NXP NFC controller - still no Wallet for you. If your device has the HCE permissions XML (this will only happen if someone made a mistake), Google Wallet will indicate that it's 100% ready for payment, but won't react at all to a payment terminal.
(Another option is if an OEM implements HCE for NXP chips even though it is missing from AOSP.)"
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Can someone confirm if this works on att note 4?
Yes, there is even a pamphlet in the box to have you download and use the app.
I use SoftCard with it.
carmaruti said:
Can someone confirm if this works on att note 4?
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Yes! Matter of fact, there is a place in the NFC settings to choose what your default tap to pay service is. Whether it is Google Wallet or SoftCard.
Used Google Wallet last night on mine.
Thanks hope all are enjoying there new toy note 4
So i setup Google Wallet on my Note 4, it was working fine on my 3. Went to Home Depot to get some things and it was declined. When i went to find out why, this is the reason it gave:
There was an issue processing your transaction. For your security, you must bring your device online at least once every 24 hours.
A quick google search yielded a single result and no answers. Anyone else seen this or have any clues?
cloudraker said:
So i setup Google Wallet on my Note 4, it was working fine on my 3. Went to Home Depot to get some things and it was declined. When i went to find out why, this is the reason it gave:
There was an issue processing your transaction. For your security, you must bring your device online at least once every 24 hours.
A quick google search yielded a single result and no answers. Anyone else seen this or have any clues?
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I don't think my device (or very many devices) are off line for 24 hours. Interesting. Maybe try it again after 24 hours.
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So i setup Google Wallet on my Note 4, it was working fine on my 3. Went to Home Depot to get some things and it was declined. When i went to find out why, this is the reason it gave:
There was an issue processing your transaction. For your security, you must bring your device online at least once every 24 hours.
A quick google search yielded a single result and no answers. Anyone else seen this or have any clues?
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Was your google wallet set up for 24 hours? Just wondering if it needs to be loaded for a period of time before allowing purchases as a small safety measure against identity theft or something.
I wished Google Wallet worked for my Note 3, at least the NFC.
I just use Google wallet in a grocery store works flawlessly.. Am happy
I'm glad Google removed that ridiculous restriction that only Wallet works on certain certified Android devices. Using Wallet on my Note 4 ... works like a charm at CVS, Walgreens and my local grocery store in Nor Calif.
Astom22 said:
Was your google wallet set up for 24 hours? Just wondering if it needs to be loaded for a period of time before allowing purchases as a small safety measure against identity theft or something.
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I don't think my device (or very many devices) are off line for 24 hours. Interesting. Maybe try it again after 24 hours.
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It hadnt been setup on the new device for 24 hours yet, more like about 20. Im not sure if thats what its stating or not. And my device is also almost always online in some fashion. I just wish i was in an area where more places were set up for contactless payments. I havent been anywhere since saturday that takes it so i cant even see if its working now.
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So i setup Google Wallet on my Note 4, it was working fine on my 3. Went to Home Depot to get some things and it was declined. When i went to find out why, this is the reason it gave:
There was an issue processing your transaction. For your security, you must bring your device online at least once every 24 hours.
A quick google search yielded a single result and no answers. Anyone else seen this or have any clues?
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Galaxy S3 with Wallet App
I had the same problem (and same message) at Home Depot today when it had worked at Home Depot before. I chatted with a Google Wallet specialist and he said that the device that has to be online every 24 hrs was the Wallet App not the phone the app was on. If this is true Google Wallet app may be unusable, however, he looked into why it was declined and told me to do the following:
Geet H 2:00 PM
Thank you for the details.
Thank you for waiting.
I would request you to clear data (Settings > Apps > Wallet > Clear data) and then sign into Wallet again. This should fix the issue.
We will see the next time I try Wallet App
Same error here (on a OnePlus One). Doesn't make any feasible sense that you should have go open the app atleast once every 24 hours. I work at a winn Dixie and we just put up signs saying we accept apple pay so I figured I'd try wallet. Got this error the 2 separate times I tried and thought maybe it was just the error it throws back if the place doesn't accept wallet but I thought it was odd that it would recognize it if that were the case. I did it at self checkout but as soon as it gives an error and declines it makes a loud noise and the register calls for an employee so I didn't feel like looking like a jackass so I just quickly canceled it and used my card both times. Just found out we have a coke machine in my apartment complex and figured I'd try it. Same error. But since I'm alone and outside I tried it again and it worked. No clue what's going on. Way to make apple pay continue to look smoother Google.
6 months later I'm still having this same issue. Anyone get a working solution since the last post?
No problems using Google Wallet with NFC on this phone.
Note Google now owns softcard and they are disabling the app to support google wallet.
Been using Google wallet all over Disney World without any issues. Never had an issue with Google Wallet except home depot, which doesn't appear to accept it even though it shows tap and pay should work on the credit card machine.
Wallet needs a data connection once a day. It claims the app doesn't need to be loaded.