Hi all. I have a Samsung Galaxy S3 (I-747) running the latest d2lte nightly build of CM11. What brings me here today is very bad battery problems. These have burdend me since I got the phone (before I installed CM11.) I would like to know what could pottentally be causing the problem. I have tried many things to fix such as turning off all not needed features, greenify certain apps, enabling android runtime(ART), going to privacy advisior and turning off all keep awake settings for my apps, and turning off sync settings. Here is a 50 minute test showing you all the battery drain(to me) of my phone with little to moderate usage. All help is appciated thanks!
Try turning off wifi, sync, NFC, Bluetooth, data, and any other toggle when not in use. Also greenify any app you can. Finally turn your screen brightness to the lowest possible setting without hindering your view.
If none of that helps, I would try another battery with more mAh.
StoneyJSG said:
Try turning off wifi, sync, NFC, Bluetooth, data, and any other toggle when not in use. Also greenify any app you can. Finally turn your screen brightness to the lowest possible setting without hindering your view.
If none of that helps, I would try another battery with more mAh.
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Thanks for the feedback but as stated in the original post, all of these have been turned off and greenify has also been used. Neither helped nor solved the problem. As for a bigger battery I prefer to keep my phone slim but will consider it.
You could always try another 2600 mAh battery and see if it helps. You might also want to try a data wipe reset or restore a previous Nandroid backup....just a suggestion.
StoneyJSG said:
You could always try another 2600 mAh battery and see if it helps. You might also want to try a data wipe reset or restore a previous Nandroid backup....just a suggestion.
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May try that too, wanna confirm its the battery before I try though as its a waste of $ if its not. I looked at the hidden menu(dail *#*#4636#*#*) battery usage settings and it says my battery is in good health. Leading me to believe it maybe my phone has faulty hardware but gonna try peoples suggestions before I say that's the cause too.
KentuckyGuy447 said:
Thanks for the feedback but as stated in the original post, all of these have been turned off and greenify has also been used. Neither helped nor solved the problem. As for a bigger battery I prefer to keep my phone slim but will consider it.
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maybe a custom kernel. or read up (if needed) on kernel tweaking. my favorite was always quantum and ktoonsez kernel. just make sure thats its made for your device and android version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2390147
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756776
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Install No Frills CPU from the app store and set the min to 300 and max to 4.3. For the governor, I like ondemand and noop.
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Install No Frills CPU from the app store and set the min to 300 and max to 4.3. For the governor, I like ondemand and noop.
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that dang @audit13 busting out with some custom tweaking.
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audit13 said:
Install No Frills CPU from the app store and set the min to 300 and max to 4.3. For the governor, I like ondemand and noop.
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Isn't ondemand the worst? (Besides performance) and won't a CPU tuner app conflict with CM's built in one? Just making sure.
EDIT: I seen its compatible, will revert to default CPU settings on CM and try this app.
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maybe a custom kernel. or read up (if needed) on kernel tweaking. my favorite was always quantum and ktoonsez kernel. just make sure thats its made for your device and android version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2390147
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756776
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Will look into but this is a off question. (Again I'm a noob lol) will a different kernel conflict with CM?
KentuckyGuy447 said:
Will look into but this is a off question. (Again I'm a noob lol) will a different kernel conflict with CM?
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should be o.k. i've done it many times. but then again , i would go with @audit13's suggestion first. no flashing worries ! again , just my two cents.
"all i can really do , is stay out of my own way and let the will of heaven be done"
I used ondemand on a Nexus4, Moto G, , HTC One XL, and Note 3. In sleep mode, the phones, on average, drop about 1% every 2 hours. Once you start using the phone to surf, talk, etc., the battery start to drop but it's a lot better than stock settings.
The kernel you use can also have an impact on battery performance.
There should be no problem with using another cpu app with a CM ROM. I have done this on my Motorola Atrix and Moto G running a CM-based ROM.
Thanks again guys! Will try, test and report back in a day or two.
Installed Quantum Kernel and now Android System is power hungry. It is also still draining ridiculously fast, same as before. (Didn't fully charge my phone so don't be alarmed about battery percentage.)
KentuckyGuy447 said:
Alright I got a question, I'm gonna gonna flash Quantum Kernel 4.4.4 final alongside my CM11 ROM but I am using Android Runtime Instead of dalvik. Will this in anyway cause any problems?
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best to check in quantum thread to see if is ART capable. i cant remember offhand if is or not.
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Look up Better Battery Stats. You can get it from the play store, but I think you can find a free version posted to xda forums if you look around. It keeps track of wakelocks and system states better than the built in battery monitor.
It will let you see if you have a rogue app or service keeping your phone from getting to deep sleep when not in use.
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Look up Better Battery Stats. You can get it from the play store, but I think you can find a free version posted to xda forums if you look around. It keeps track of wakelocks and system states better than the built in battery monitor.
It will let you see if you have a rogue app or service keeping your phone from getting to deep sleep when not in use.
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+1.
if want.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/80e67e4o295sle6/AAAh1SYcl0mJkpK7_yXIpodja?dl=0
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Alright I've got myself in a minor pickle. I am currently testing Quantum Kernel and will let you guys know the results. The problem is my SMS has stopped working as in I can't send any texts. Idk if its were I played around in the Testing Menu or if its the kernel. What do you guys think?
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Alright I've got myself in a minor pickle. I am currently testing Quantum Kernel and will let you guys know the results. The problem is my SMS has stopped working as in I can't send any texts. Idk if its were I played around in the Testing Menu or if its the kernel. What do you guys think?
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personally never had an issue with texts running quantum kernel , but
perhaps clearing data/cache in sms would help.(?).
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mrrocketdog said:
personally never had an issue with texts running quantum kernel , but
perhaps clearing data/cache in sms would help.(?).
"all i can really do , is stay out of my own way and let the will of heaven be done"
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Sadly it didn't work :'(
Related
currently i have setCPU running on my rooted Dinc with several profiles set.........my question is what is the optimum settings for:
Sampling Rate
Up threshold
ignore Nice load
Powersave bias
mine currently are 40000,70,0,0
i'm trying to find a good setting for best battery life b/c i'm constitenly on my phone all day!!!
thanks for any input.....
What kernal r u running? Several recommend no profiles, and oc will run the battery down.
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currently i have setCPU running on my rooted Dinc with several profiles set.........my question is what is the optimum settings for:
Sampling Rate
Up threshold
ignore Nice load
Powersave bias
mine currently are 40000,70,0,0
i'm trying to find a good setting for best battery life b/c i'm constitenly on my phone all day!!!
thanks for any input.....
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i'm just running stock kernal, i'm not comfortable enough with the phone yet to changed kernals........i just setting a default profile so the phone would run 384 on the low end and 786 on high end but when i check system panel it shows the cpu still running up to the max, so i don't know whats going on and if there is anything i need to do to fix it.
do you have "set at boot" checked?
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do you have "set at boot" checked?
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yea i did, i read somewhere on here that the "perflock" has to be disabled when using a stock kernal and running froyo, any truth to that ??? and a friend of mine has an incredible and he told me that these mods really don't make that much of a difference, now he's a verizon sales rep so he may be telling me that so i don't change my phone too much
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now he's a verizon sales rep so he may be telling me that so i don't change my phone too much
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generally speaking there are two types of people who are employees for phone companies:
A) someone who just wants a paycheck
B) geeks like us who like to hack and mod and tinker
A will tell you that hacking will void warranty, blah blah blah....mostly because they don't know much about what stuff is. B will tell you what they know, and admit when they don't know something.
it sounds like your friend is falling into the A category, especially if they're saying "mods don't change much". they change quite a bit, so be careful.
as far as your question in the OP, with my eris i would just mess with stuff, and see how the phone runs. don't save to run at boot until you know it's stable and will not crash or freeze your phone. adjust settings, and see how it responds, repeat as necessary.
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i'm just running stock kernal, i'm not comfortable enough with the phone yet to changed kernals........i just setting a default profile so the phone would run 384 on the low end and 786 on high end but when i check system panel it shows the cpu still running up to the max, so i don't know whats going on and if there is anything i need to do to fix it.
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nandroid and flash KK#5. you won't be sorry, its very stable and very quick
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nandroid and flash KK#5. you won't be sorry, its very stable and very quick
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where can i get that kernel ??
Yes you have to disable perflock.
I only adjusted my power bias to 650 I think which is 65%. 1000 being 100% and 10 being 1%. All this does is make sure you cpu stays on the lower end of the usage. I have a 2150 and stream pandora a lot and always have 3g running, I go online and everything and I get 2 days of usage with a down clock and some profiles.
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where can i get that kernel ??
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google or the android development forum, don't have the link on hand
mihneagabriel said:
Yes you have to disable perflock.
I only adjusted my power bias to 650 I think which is 65%. 1000 being 100% and 10 being 1%. All this does is make sure you cpu stays on the lower end of the usage. I have a 2150 and stream pandora a lot and always have 3g running, I go online and everything and I get 2 days of usage with a down clock and some profiles.
Are you running stock HTC sense Rom?
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Yes
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where can i get that kernel ??
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Search works wonders
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=760050
I'm tired of people going onto his AOKP thread that he worked hard to build from SOURCE for us, and discouraging his ROM. It is pretty much perfect, I have not found a single flaw, other than what Team AOKP had in their source. "Battery sucks," "This is messed up," "fix this."
No.
This is an AOSP ROM. If you don't know how to use it (as said it is for ADVANCED users), get off of it or go back to iOS. If you use it right, you'll have the best experience possible with any ROM.
Read through the thread for problems and fixes. He pointed out several times how to fix the vsync, or in other words, screen tearing. Since people don't read, i'll go over it again here.
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for tearing, go into the build.prop and remove hwui.disable_vsync=true and reboot.
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So this basically means, go into any File Explorer (preferably Root Explorer), go to root (/), go to system, turn on R/W, hold down and text edit build.prop, find the line quoted above under # ADDITIONAL BUILD PROPERTIES, change the true to false, or just delete the whole line. Easy fix for screen tearing.
Ok now to the battery part, which is what this thread was meant for. I commented into his thread before, which can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29252372&postcount=3237
Use Power Saver to turn off data when you aren't using the phone and screen is off, with 20 second delay in case I'm just replying to a text. I can easily toggle it back on by sliding the navigation bar down for half a second.
System Settings→ ROM Control→ Power Saver→ Screen off Data action+Data Action Delay
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Also, turn off Wifi when you aren't using it. Yeah, walking into your house and auto connecting to wifi can be nice. But constantly looking for wifi signals, and constantly finding random ones kills battery. Also another luxury of the customizable toggles.
Use Hold Back To Kill option under general, to get rid of any apps you don't need out of your memory pool. It's became a habit to me to just hold back when exiting most apps. Without them in the background, battery is a lot better.
System Settings→ ROM Control→ General UI→ Hold back to Kill
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USE AOKP SETTINGS.This is why AOKP is so great! We have all of the settings built in unlike any other ROM! Don't use 3rd party apps such as SetCPU or task killers (which believe it or not, tend to waste even more battery). What a waste of battery, when we have it built in. I like my Max CPU to be 1200 because I take advantage of my phones speed, but some people will go down to 1000. Minimum at 200.
System Settings→ ROM Control→ Performance→ Max/Min CPU
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Undervolt. I have all of my undervolts to 75 and under, I never get freezes now. I can probably raise the higher clock speeds to lower volts also, I may experiment some more. It's always trial and error, so find out your own for best possible battery life. If it freezes, let it reboot and try again.
System Settings→ ROM Control→ Performance→ Voltage Control
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Use the SmartassV2 governor. It's designed to be like On Demand and conservative, but the way it changes speeds of the processor is a lot better for battery.
System Settings→ ROM Control→ Performance→ Scaling governor
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Charge to 100. Take your battery out for 5 minutes, unplug phone. Put it back in, let it boot. Battery should be more stable.
If you have anymore, please feel free to comment. I will add them to the OP.
Take advantage of this marvelous ROM he has supplied to us. People really need to stop being inconsiderate and know what they're doing before complaining. This ROM is definitely fit for a Daily Driver, and should be used by anyone who loves tweaks, speed, and good battery life.
CPU sleeper
i've been using it for a while and it helps.. dnt expect miracles though ..
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JOEOZUNA4U said:
i've been using it for a while and it helps.. dnt expect miracles though ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1764823
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There have been scripts to do this which would be a lot better so maybe I can find them. Most CPU/task killers/battery savers work worse in the long run.
Ive noticed my battery has been slightly better "out of the box" over stock GB.
I'll see what comes of it over teh next few weeks.
Read, read, read, read and more reading. Did I missing reading couple more times?
I was looking for screen tear issue and solution in rom thread before this got posted.. I was close to just asking it after going back few pages.. I saw it on every page that someone said its in the thread and just read it.. So eventually found it.
So peeps if you read, force will be with you!
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sockey said:
Can't believe the negative comments, I would like to give a great big thank you for this useful post. Just one question, I can not find this option...System Settings→ ROM Control→ Performance→ Voltage Control. I made all the rest of the adjustments.
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it is probably because you didn't flash a version of TI's aokp that has that built in or it's either because you flashed a different kernel afterwards that doesn't have that option baked in, thus removing it from ROM control
sockey said:
Can't believe the negative comments, I would like to give a great big thank you for this useful post. Just one question, I can not find this option...System Settings→ ROM Control→ Performance→ Voltage Control. I made all the rest of the adjustments.
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Hmm.. I have it. Its right after "set on boot".
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tdagraca said:
it is probably because you didn't flash a version of TI's aokp that has that built in or it's either because you flashed a different kernel afterwards that doesn't have that option baked in, thus removing it from ROM control
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I did flash a new kernel afterwards. Thanks for explaining that for me.
I've found that flashing PhAkEer's dietpill tweaks (found in the General Section) drastically improves battery life. Another thing I do is turn off haptic feedback. Right now I'm running CM9 but I've mostly ran AOKP since I've had ICS and battery had always been a problem. Little tweaks can help change battery life. The tips section on Team Epic's website is pretty good - most of those tips work on AOKP too. Battery section is at the bottom: http://e4gtcm.blogspot.com/p/customization-guide.html
Thanks for the tearing thing, that was really my only complaint, but I love aokp and it wasn't going to stop me from using it. Now its perfect .
sockey said:
Can't believe the negative comments, I would like to give a great big thank you for this useful post. Just one question, I can not find this option...System Settings→ ROM Control→ Performance→ Voltage Control. I made all the rest of the adjustments.
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As stated, you probably aren't on times_infinity's build. And make sure you're on the newest version.
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I'm tired of people going onto his AOKP thread that he worked hard to build from SOURCE for us, and discouraging his ROM. It is pretty much perfect, I have not found a single flaw, other than what Team AOKP had in their source. "Battery sucks," "This is messed up," "fix this."
[*]Also, turn off Wifi when you aren't using it. Yeah, walking into your house and auto connecting to wifi can be nice. But constantly looking for wifi signals, and constantly finding random ones kills battery. Also another luxury of the customizable toggles.
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I need to keep my wifi on because of travel and and work. At my usual hotel, whenever wifi disconnects from their hot spot, I have to sign in again. At work it's the same. I don't know any fix other than the hot spot remembering my MAC for a little longer.
If anyone had any ideas on how to get around this, I'd be grateful.
I get decent battery life out of the box, at least as good as my EVO on CM7, but I'll give the other tweaks a try, thanks.
I can say that on the latest Time's AOKP with a little undervolting the battery life is more then exceptional. I normally undervolted -50mv on each step. Wasn't enough to cause issues but was enough to add about an hour of screen time to my daily use.
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I need to keep my wifi on because of travel and and work. At my usual hotel, whenever wifi disconnects from their hot spot, I have to sign in again. At work it's the same. I don't know any fix other than the hot spot remembering my MAC for a little longer.
If anyone had any ideas on how to get around this, I'd be grateful.
I get decent battery life out of the box, at least as good as my EVO on CM7, but I'll give the other tweaks a try, thanks.
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When you aren't using it having it off helps, like on the road and use the toggle unless you're using hot spots. I've never used them because I'm on 3g so I'm not sure. I've never had a problem not remembering a connection, maybe that's something hotspot does.
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sockey said:
Can't believe the negative comments, I would like to give a great big thank you for this useful post. Just one question, I can not find this option...System Settings→ ROM Control→ Performance→ Voltage Control. I made all the rest of the adjustments.
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it is probably because you didn't flash a version of TI's aokp that has that built in or it's either because you flashed a different kernel afterwards that doesn't have that option baked in, thus removing it from ROM control
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I do not see Voltage Control or the Smartass V2 governor.
Mod version: aokp_epic4gtouch_milestone-6
Kernel version: 3.0.15-g9d39731-dirty
I flashed a while back and honestly do not recall flashing anything other than the ROM from goo.im.
I think you may need to go the dev thread and get the latest version.
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When you aren't using it having it off helps, like on the road and use the toggle unless you're using hot spots. I've never used them because I'm on 3g so I'm not sure. I've never had a problem not remembering a connection, maybe that's something hotspot does.
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Yes, it's the stupid hotspot. They want to make sure you've accepted the user agreement, so they forget your MAC every time you disconnect. It's the same at Starbucks. I've been to my local shop hundreds of times and have to accept the user agreement every freakin time.
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OK, thanks, will give that a try right after the USA Women's basketball game
thedarksavant said:
I do not see Voltage Control or the Smartass V2 governor.
Mod version: aokp_epic4gtouch_milestone-6
Kernel version: 3.0.15-g9d39731-dirty
I flashed a while back and honestly do not recall flashing anything other than the ROM from goo.im.
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Smartass governor is on the newest Milestone 6 build, go reflash it just make sure to backup. I've never seen the kernel make settings not show up, it would just make it inoperable.
thedarksavant said:
Yes, it's the stupid hotspot. They want to make sure you've accepted the user agreement, so they forget your MAC every time you disconnect. It's the same at Starbucks. I've been to my local shop hundreds of times and have to accept the user agreement every freakin time.
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OK, thanks, will give that a try right after the USA Women's basketball game
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Yeah that happens to me at Starbucks and McDonalds wifi, most do that and there isn't a way around it. Sorry
thedarksavant said:
I do not see Voltage Control or the Smartass V2 governor.
Mod version: aokp_epic4gtouch_milestone-6
Kernel version: 3.0.15-g9d39731-dirty
I flashed a while back and honestly do not recall flashing anything other than the ROM from goo.im.
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you probably flashed Chris's version that's posted on goo. also source. also m6. but doesn't have voltage control. that's in times build.
I've cleaned the BS posts in here. If you do not have anything to post constructive, then do not post at all. If you have anything negative to say, then move on without saying anything.
I searched the forum and saw some people had similar issues but nothing in the other threads seems to have fixed their issue.
I am having huge FPS drops in games after about 5 minutes of play time. I never had this problem when I was on stock, and ever since I have tried a few different ROMs and all of them have the same result. I found that if I turn my screen off for ~30 seconds the lag will go away for about 2 minutes but just comes right back.
Currently running SOKP ROM.
Games that I play are Valkyrie Crusade, The Gate, Heroes of Camelot.
Any help would be appreciated!
Ok, so the issue seems to only be present while charging. Does anyone have any suggestion on how to alleviate this issue without unplugging my phone from the charger? My battery does not last as long as it used to and I can only play for about a half hour before my phone battery starts to get extremely low.
Does your Rom allow for Changing of Governors and Voltages ? If so, then try Trickster Mod. If it does not allow such changes then switch to a AOSP Rom and then Flash KT747 Kernel by @ktoonsez. that kernel has profiles specifically tailored for Gaming.
That kernel was not compatible with AOKP Roms until Recently. I do not use AOKP Roms so I am not sure if AOKP Code has changed to make it compatible.
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Does your Rom allow for Changing of Governors and Voltages ? If so, then try Trickster Mod. If it does not allow such changes then switch to a AOSP Rom and then Flash KT747 Kernel by @ktoonsez. that kernel has profiles specifically tailored for Gaming.
That kernel was not compatible with AOKP Roms until Recently. I do not use AOKP Roms so I am not sure if AOKP Code has changed to make it compatible.
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The app from the app store? I don't know anything about Trickster mod.
Yes its the App in Play Store. If you are not comfortable tweaking those parameters, then leave that alone.
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Yes its the App in Play Store. If you are not comfortable tweaking those parameters, then leave that alone.
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Any recommendations on settings then?
Explore the thread on Undervolting / Overclocking in my signature. Let me know if you are comfortable with making that kind of changes.
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Explore the thread on Undervolting / Overclocking in my signature. Let me know if you are comfortable with making that kind of changes.
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I checked it out but it seems pretty confusing.. still not sure what settings I should change. Why would it be different from stock rom though?
In that case, please use the App "Fast Reboot Pro". It also creates a shortcut on your homescreen that, when clicked, will improve performance.
You may also want to apply V6 Supercharger Mod by @zeppelinrox.
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In that case, please use the App "Fast Reboot Pro". It also creates a shortcut on your homescreen that, when clicked, will improve performance.
You may also want to apply V6 Supercharger Mod by @zeppelinrox.
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My ROM is 4.4.2. Do I still need to apply the Ultimatic Jar Patcher?
I have not kept up with the more recent developments on that thread. Search the thread or post the question on it.
If your battery is getting low that quickly and easily your best bet, imo, is to replace it. Aa they age and lose capacity they also lose the ability to run the hardware effectively. Youre probably seeing lag because it just isnt able to provide the stable voltage required to run the cpu/gpu at full throttle very long.
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I have not kept up with the more recent developments on that thread. Search the thread or post the question on it.
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I tried these modifications and I am still getting terrible FPS drops.
Your only other option is Fast Reboot Pro in lieu of Governor changes and Overclocking.
I have a S4 mini running custom carbon kk unofficial 4.4.3 as it comes with the settings to set CPU's and governors but the phone keeps changing the min to around 1400 but the max stays at 1700.i don't notice until my battery is draining really fast or gets hot. anyone kno a fix to this?
matizkool said:
I have a S4 mini running custom carbon kk unofficial 4.4.3 as it comes with the settings to set CPU's and governors but the phone keeps changing the min to around 1400 but the max stays at 1700.i don't notice until my battery is draining really fast or gets hot. anyone kno a fix to this?
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Which governor is it using to set a min of 1400? Ever likely it gets hot and eats power! I use f4k's kernel, and the 'Performance Control' app to look at and alter stuff - you don't say what you use or have tried.
There is a Carbon 4.4.4 available with f4ktion 1.5 kernel - might be an idea to flash that and the problem might go away!
xbin said:
Which governor is it using to set a min of 1400? Ever likely it gets hot and eats power! I use f4k's kernel, and the 'Performance Control' app to look at and alter stuff - you don't say what you use or have tried.
There is a Carbon 4.4.4 available with f4ktion 1.5 kernel - might be an idea to flash that and the problem might go away!
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It's on every governor this happens but I use Wheatley. I would manually set it to around the 300s but in a couple of hours it would auto set at 1400 on its on. This causes my battery to drain my kernel version is 3.4.91 f4ktion 1.4.5 eur lte
matizkool said:
It's on every governor this happens but I use Wheatley. I would manually set it to around the 300s but in a couple of hours it would auto set at 1400 on its on. This causes my battery to drain
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Strangely enough I've settled with Wheatley too! but it spends most of its time at 162 when not in deep sleep (a bit like me!). This really needs posting in the Carbon thread so I would post a few more things here to help or comment on stuff to get to 10 posts and then ask in there. I can't think what could be causing that behaviour, if it was me it would be bye bye 4.4.3 and hello 4.4.4
xbin said:
Strangely enough I've settled with Wheatley too! but it spends most of its time at 162 when not in deep sleep (a bit like me!). This really needs posting in the Carbon thread so I would post a few more things here to help or comment on stuff to get to 10 posts and then ask in there. I can't think what could be causing that behaviour, if it was me it would be bye bye 4.4.3 and hello 4.4.4
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Yeah i flashed to 4.4.4 thanks though
Never mind above still happens even though I flashed 4.4.4
matizkool said:
Never mind above still happens even though I flashed 4.4.4
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Does the actual minimum change rather than it simply running continually at 1400+ and if so which governor does it change to if any!
I read somewhere in the Carbon thread someone was having similar problems so they flashed the kernel twice, one directly after the other; seems something wasn't getting written correctly the first time but was the second, and the problem went away. Worth a go...
xbin said:
Does the actual minimum change rather than it simply running continually at 1400+ and if so which governor does it change to if any!
I read somewhere in the Carbon thread someone was having similar problems so they flashed the kernel twice, one directly after the other; seems something wasn't getting written correctly the first time but was the second, and the problem went away. Worth a go...
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I found this : Q: CPU/GPU frequency doesn't stick?
A: If your frequency settings don’t stick, it's because on certain Qualcomm or JB and higher devices, there are certain system services (thermald/mpdecision/project butter) or kernel feature that rewrite frequency settings based on current thermal status and/or touch input. Certain custom kernels for your device should include work around for these issues.
Is this a fix?
matizkool said:
I found this : Q: CPU/GPU frequency doesn't stick?
A: If your frequency settings don’t stick, it's because on certain Qualcomm or JB and higher devices, there are certain system services (thermald/mpdecision/project butter) or kernel feature that rewrite frequency settings based on current thermal status and/or touch input. Certain custom kernels for your device should include work around for these issues.
Is this a fix?
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It could help. Trickster is good. However, this suggests that there is something else causing or forcing the frequency setting to be changed. The question is what? and I've no idea:crying:
Haha I found the problem it was either this battery saver app or I changed to scheduler to anything besides row
matizkool said:
Haha I found the problem it was either this battery saver app or I changed to scheduler to anything besides row
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Thats good. It was probably the battery saver because they usually do the opposite!
Hi,
I flashed stock android 10 image after it was released a few days ago and the battery life is GARBAGE. Any ideas on how to fix this? I know adaptive means it should get better after a few days, but I don't really see this.
Battery life for me is pretty horrible, I can't get 2 hours of screen time doing simple things like taking photos, reading the news and email and some book reading. I don't even play games, I would say processing of HDR photos is the most intense thing I've done. I updated on Tuesday and battery life has not improved.
I had the same terrible battery experience with android 10 stock until I changed kernels. Assuming you are rooted, you can install Ex Kernel Manager, then go to the ElementalX tab and click to check for update and it will give you the option to download and flash Elemental X v. 5.05 for pixel xl android 10. It will flash the new kernel for you and then ask if you would like to reboot. Once you reboot you can change governors and many kernel settings. Currently I am at 54% with over 3hrs screen on time and average about 15 hours per charge with 6 or more hours screen on time. This is at least double what I was getting on the stock kernel.
matrix0027 said:
I had the same terrible battery experience with android 10 stock until I changed kernels. Assuming you are rooted, you can install Ex Kernel Manager, then go to the ElementalX tab and click to check for update and it will give you the option to download and flash Elemental X v. 5.05 for pixel xl android 10. It will flash the new kernel for you and then ask if you would like to reboot. Once you reboot you can change governors and many kernel settings. Currently I am at 54% with over 3hrs screen on time and average about 15 hours per charge with 6 or more hours screen on time. This is at least double what I was getting on the stock kernel.
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Is there a free alternative to ex kernel manager?
@H0wdy
Smart pack kernel manager available on xda here it is also frequently updated not my work just so you know
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-smartpack-kernel-manager-t3854717/amp/
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@H0wdy
Smart pack kernel manager available on xda here it is also frequently updated not my work just so you know
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-smartpack-kernel-manager-t3854717/amp/
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I installed it and changed cpu governor to power saving. No difference.
H0wdy said:
I installed it and changed cpu governor to power saving. No difference.
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Actually, even if I do apply on boot, is resetting governor to sched. Hmm
I don't see a real battery difference switching to powersave, just a performance difference.
I didn't actually switch the kernel, though. That's with the included kernel.
The battery life really is awful. Any ideas?
Changed to Elemental.
Set governors to Elemental.
NO improvement in battery.
H0wdy said:
Changed to Elemental.
Set governors to Elemental.
NO improvement in battery.
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here are my settings on Elemental. *note under cpu, I have to manually disable perfd after every reboot as the setting doesn't stick but everything else where the apply on reboot is highlighted works automatically. Battery is noticibly better with perfd and core control disabled.
smoka206 said:
Battery life for me is pretty horrible, I can't get 2 hours of screen time doing simple things like taking photos, reading the news and email and some book reading. I don't even play games, I would say processing of HDR photos is the most intense thing I've done. I updated on Tuesday and battery life has not improved.
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That's awesome! but, does it have significant impact on performance compared to stock kernel? I'd like to balance out performance and battery life.
I wiped the phone and installed 10.
No improvement with battery.
Also, now I have the problem of my messaging and email apps don't update unless I manually open them. and sensor seems to be messed up to where if you tap twice on phone, you don't see clock, and picking up phone doesn't show notifications, despite these options being turned on. I know there is a bug on this.
For what it's worth, I was on the Q betas, and battery life was similar to what I was getting on pie. Then once the official update installed, battery went to garbage even after several days. I ended up downgrading to Oreo leaving the bootloader unlocked, but installing elemental x kernel so that I'd still pass safety net. I had heard before that Oreo had better battery life than pie.
Things improved after that, but I know that a downgrade like this won't be an option for most people.
Edit: also should mention that I've underclocked the CPU using the installer for the ex kernel which has also given me a slight boost in battery life. Don't really notice any performance difference for my usage.
where to dowload elemental 5.05 .img ? i can only get the .zip file but i have no way to flash it.
i have root
hfmls said:
where to dowload elemental 5.05 .img ? i can only get the .zip file but i have no way to flash it.
i have root
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I used ex kernel manager to flash it and then rebooted but it's a paid app. for a free app you could try flashify which is an app that can flash kernels and recoveries. I haven't used it in a long time to flash a kernel so I make no guarantees but it has worked well for me in the past.
How much did you underclock? I went back to 8.1 and battery life is much improved.
Stock seems fine to me 6hr sot on lte off charger for 17 hr. But did replace battery a year ago
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How much did you underclock? I went back to 8.1 and battery life is much improved.
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Hey, I assume you're asking me. I underclocked to 1440 for the small cores (down from 1593), and 1900 for the big cores (down from stock 2150). The aroma installer has a few values to choose from, so you can try experimenting a bit. The values I used represent about a 10% drop from stock speeds.
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Hey, I assume you're asking me. I underclocked to 1440 for the small cores (down from 1593), and 1900 for the big cores (down from stock 2150). The aroma installer has a few values to choose from, so you can try experimenting a bit. The values I used represent about a 10% drop from stock speeds.
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Yes I was asking you, sorry for some reason it didn't reply to your comment. Thank you, I'm going to experiment and see how it goes. Are you doing anything else to improve battery life?
mbiscuits said:
Yes I was asking you, sorry for some reason it didn't reply to your comment. Thank you, I'm going to experiment and see how it goes. Are you doing anything else to improve battery life?
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The biggest battery drain I have is keeping WiFi on. So I created some tasker profiles to turn off WiFi 2 minutes after the screen goes off, and back on when the screen goes on. It also only turns off if it's not plugged in. Still not perfect, but works well enough for me.