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I'm sorry if this was posted elsewhere, I searched but couldn't find this question answered.
Last week I sent my girlfriend into a T-Mobile store here in RI to check out the Note 2. I was at work so I wanted her impression. She fell in love with it and now wants one. She's not a phone geek and always said she would prefer a flip phone if she could text on it,so I didn't think she would think too highly of it. I really wanted her input on how big it was
I figured I'd buy it for her for Christmas. T-Mobile store wants over $700 and the best International Note 2 price I've seen is $600 on special at Newegg.
I'd prefer the T-Mobile version for the future LTE but the extra $150 is a lot.
Any ideas on how to buy a T-Mobile version without paying over $700?
Also, are the benefits of the T-Mobile version worth the added cost?
Depending on where you live tmobile more then likely tmobile has not finished refarming 1900mhz in your area in that case the International note will only be able to get on edge before tmobile finishes their modernization. This is of course assuming you want to use it for on tmobile or an mvno.
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T-Mobile note 2 have the correct frequencies to operate in Tmobile's hspa+. International note 2 you will most likely be stuck with 2g speeds.
If you plan to use Tmobile's data plan buy the Tmobile version.
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We have the T-Mobile data plan.
I was hoping to spend $600 or so, that's not remotely possible paying retail.
I've seen some international note 2 for around $550 on eBay storefront for dailysteals.com.
However saving $150 would be pointless for me as I value data speed the most. I use upwards of 50 gbs monthly.
If you don't care as much about data speeds and streaming the savings may be worthwhile to you.
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I just got my graduation present; and it's a Samsung Galay Nexus. It's the 32gb Verizon 4g LTE model (SCH-i515)
Now, I don't want a contract at all, the phone is off eBay but has never been activated AFAIK.
My problem is; I don't want a contract on Verizon. I've been told by the tech at my local store it didn't support prepaid, and couldn't be unlocked to use with Straight Talk. Whereas Straight Talk said it could. Whereas Verizon wants a 400$ security deposit to activate this phone. I came across a few eBay listings and videos where people are flashing their phones to the 50$ a month Verizon Prepaid Wireless? The only catch is 3g data speeds and no 4g, which is absolutely fine.
I'm wondering if its at all possible to flash my model phone, and how I would go about doing it? I'm extremely new to android, coming from an iPhone. (Don't bash me, I'm not a fan of them either. )
Just curious if you ever got this figured out. I'm interested in picking up a Galaxy Nexus and using it on Verizon's prepaid plans. Seems like it should be a no-brainer, but with Verizon you never know. Thanks!
Any other AT&T users who feel burned by the Note 3 Root fiasco going with a full price Tmobile Note 4 to use on AT&T? I know first question is why not switch to Tmobile, well in my area they don't have good coverage so it's not an option. I plan on signing up for their $40 plan, paying full price for the phone, trading in my old iPhone 4 for $50 and getting the remainder $150 rebate from Samsung then shutting off Tmobile service as soon as I get home.
The only issue with my plan is Tmobile requires 40 days of service before they unlock your phone. Anyone care to guess how long it will take an aftermarket company to have the ability to unlock the Tmobile Note 4 for a fee?
I am in the same boat. I will keep my T plan and just want to purchase the full price TMOB phone. I was unaware I needed to start service with TMOB to buy one. Perhaps my sister who is a TMOB customer will buy it for me. I am not sure the LTE frequencies are the same for TMOB and T. I see some threads that say for the Note that it will work but I am note sure if that is for 3G or LTE. I require LTE or I'll just look at other phones. I am still on a subsidized phone plan so I may just pre-order the T locked crapola phone and sell it discounted to recoupe the part of TMOB phone cost. But I too am looking for confirmation that the TMOB boot loader will be unlocked.
This locked boot loader is a bunch of BS!
Same here. I want to confirm it will be rootable.
I also didn't realize you have to go onto their plan to purchase. I'd think if paying full price it wouldn't be a requirement.
I'll be watching. I'm anxious, but need to be patient.
Well I'm not 100% sure you have to sign up for a plan, I'm just not sure how much resistance or BS you will encounter if you just walk in and say you want a full price phone without getting a plan, IE: without making the rep any money. Maybe it's possible to just buy it outright on the website, I think there is also an option to trade in your phone then because you need to prove a trade in to get the $200 Samsung rebate.
I think the issue is to get it unlocked you have to have it on a Tmobile plan for 40 days. So it's going to have to be an unlocking service that is aftermarket. Do these aftermarket unlocking service typically have access to unlock codes immediately when a new phone is released?
Att user here i will be getting the tmob.. as its official that att and verizon Will not sell devices with unlocked bootladers anymore..
So tmob here i come.. shouldnt take long for xda to come up with an unlock....
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Funny ATT and VZW is not afraid to give more business to Tmo. Thats interesting and good for Tmo.
I plan on buying the t-mobile note 4 at full retail price than paying like 10 or less to unlock it from an online site. I then have a note 4 at a lower price than att outright and hopefully a modable phone
Last year I initially bought the Note 3 on ATT and then later bought the t mobile version off of ebay for full retail unlocked. Then returned my ATT version to best buy.
I tried to buy the t mobile version directly from T mobile, but they would not sell to me without my getting a plan. It was going to cost me quite a bit extra to do it that way so I just went to ebay. Swappa may be another option.
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Last year I initially bought the Note 3 on ATT and then later bought the t mobile version off of ebay for full retail unlocked. Then returned my ATT version to best buy.
I tried to buy the t mobile version directly from T mobile, but they would not sell to me without my getting a plan. It was going to cost me quite a bit extra to do it that way so I just went to ebay. Swappa may be another option.
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Best buy looks like the best option if they have the Tmobile version next week. They are giving a $200 gift card for any traded in phone, which is as good as the Samsung rebate if you like to spend money at BB. You can also just order it full price on the internet no questions asked, no pushy reps.
What do you guys think of warranty issues though? With a ATT phone I'd just go to the ATT warranty center. Since I won't have a Tmobile account I don't think Tmobile will help me with warranty issues. I guess I'm stuck with Samsung for warranty issues. Will a Samsung kiosk take the phone and replace it or send it in, or do I have to deal with Samsung directly?
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Best buy looks like the best option if they have the Tmobile version next week. They are giving a $200 gift card for any traded in phone, which is as good as the Samsung rebate if you like to spend money at BB. You can also just order it full price on the internet no questions asked, no pushy reps.
What do you guys think of warranty issues though? With a ATT phone I'd just go to the ATT warranty center. Since I won't have a Tmobile account I don't think Tmobile will help me with warranty issues. I guess I'm stuck with Samsung for warranty issues. Will a Samsung kiosk take the phone and replace it or send it in, or do I have to deal with Samsung directly?
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Best Buy doesn't carry T-Mobile phones or plans other than the prepaid stuff. That's why T-Mobile is excluded from the Best Buy promotion. Amazon also doesn't carry T-Mobile phones/plans other than the prepaid stuff.
You'll need to send it in.
Bleh, I guess I'm stuck with Tmobile and faking their cheapest plan then cancelling when I get home. Oh well, at least I can trade my old iPhone in for the Samsung promo. $549 is not a bad deal for the N4 at all.
Can anyone who has bought a TMOB phone please verify they actually get LTE service on T? Looking at the LTE bands, it appears T verse TMOB used different bands in the same frequency.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
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Can anyone who has bought a TMOB phone please verify they actually get LTE service on T? Looking at the LTE bands, it appears T verse TMOB used different bands in the same frequency.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
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Yup, many people get ATT LTE with tmobile phones. Here is a very large thread in the note 3 section on everything you need to know.
See my signature.
I'll never buy another AT&T phone as long as they keep locking the bootloader and going out of their way to prevent root.
T-Mobile S5 got root (and recovery option) the first week it was released. First day maybe even?
AT&T S5 didn't get root until what, seven freaking weeks after release?
This year though, I'm seriously considering just leaving AT&T all together and going with both TMO phone AND plan.
Their coverage in my area is actually better than ATT in some places.
I'm not in a rush to leave my Note 3 behind though.
I'm running an AOSP/CM/Slim based ROM that is absolutely rock solid stable, fast and great battery life and has tons of customization options.
It would be several months before the Note 4 gets a really good AOSP ROM.
A relative of mine has a TMOB plan and I asked them to pre-order the phone for me. They said that TMOB requires you to have a the "jump" plan which they did not use so they would not let them pre-order it.
I assume someone on Flea-Bay will sell unlocked TMOB Note 4 eventually. I guess I'll just have to wait for those to show up. Unless there will eventually is another source without a plan?
Or are all of you preordering them here and then will just cancel the service after you receive it and pay the balance?
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A relative of mine has a TMOB plan and I asked them to pre-order the phone for me. They said that TMOB requires you to have a the "jump" plan which they did not use so they would not let them pre-order it.
I assume someone on Flea-Bay will sell unlocked TMOB Note 4 eventually. I guess I'll just have to wait for those to show up. Unless there will eventually is another source without a plan?
Or are all of you preordering them here and then will just cancel the service after you receive it and pay the balance?
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Yeah I'm just grabbing it off the website, I'm assuming my plan won't start until I actually activate the phone. As soon as I get the phone delivered I'll cancel the plan and hopefully they don't charge me the first month. Only 2 things I'm not sure of are:
1) They are charging me a $50 deposit versus the first months service, will I get this back? It also says within 12 months!?!? Still I'm ok with it as it's cheaper than the ATT one.
2) What happens to the $22 credit they are giving me for my old phone trade in? I won't have a bill to apply it to, will this get lost?
I have the tmobile note 3 and the at&t note 3,I have at&t service as tmobile service sucks were I am.I bought the tmobile note 3 last year from tmobile full price from store got the cheapest plan then shut it off the next day.I got it unlocked when I got home for 15 bucks from unlock service out of the play store in about an hour.I will never buy a At&t phone again unless the bootloader is unlocked.It took forever just to get root access on the at&t model thats why I bought the tmobile note 3.I can live without the roms but not root.I can assure you I get the same at%t service on my tmobile note 3 as the at&t note 3 including lte on the tmobile note 3.I will be picking up the tmobile note 4 .I want the note edge but there no release date yet so the note 4 will do until I can get the note edge,which will also be picking up the tmobile model using it with at&t service.
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A relative of mine has a TMOB plan and I asked them to pre-order the phone for me. They said that TMOB requires you to have a the "jump" plan which they did not use so they would not let them pre-order it.
I assume someone on Flea-Bay will sell unlocked TMOB Note 4 eventually. I guess I'll just have to wait for those to show up. Unless there will eventually is another source without a plan?
Or are all of you preordering them here and then will just cancel the service after you receive it and pay the balance?
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That's what I'll be doing.
I've been reading through the Note 3 TMobile-->AT&T thread and am hoping I don't screw up AT&T LTE service if they have my IMEI. (Or lose my grandfathered unlimited plan)
However, I probably just don't fully understand the process yet.
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That's what I'll be doing.
I've been reading through the Note 3 TMobile-->AT&T thread and am hoping I don't screw up AT&T LTE service if they have my IMEI. (Or lose my grandfathered unlimited plan)
However, I probably just don't fully understand the process yet.
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I have the grandfathered unlimited plan also, been using the tmobile note 3 on at&t and I haven't lost my lte or unlimited plan for about a year now.
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I have the tmobile note 3 and the at&t note 3,I have at&t service as tmobile service sucks were I am.I bought the tmobile note 3 last year from tmobile full price from store got the cheapest plan then shut it off the next day.I got it unlocked when I got home for 15 bucks from unlock service out of the play store in about an hour.I will never buy a At&t phone again unless the bootloader is unlocked.It took forever just to get root access on the at&t model thats why I bought the tmobile note 3.I can live without the roms but not root.I can assure you I get the same at%t service on my tmobile note 3 as the at&t note 3 including lte on the tmobile note 3.I will be picking up the tmobile note 4 .I want the note edge but there no release date yet so the note 4 will do until I can get the note edge,which will also be picking up the tmobile model using it with at&t service.
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I am not sure how big a PITA it will be to cancel TMOB service the day I receive the phone. Will they hit me with charges other than the cost of the phone and the $10 for the SIM?
It does not sound like the day I receive it I could just stick in my T SIM and go since it comes locked (I assume). Folks with Note 3 experience, please chime in if I am wrong.
Plus, I assume the phone will be locked to TMOB. I was reading that they will unlock it after 45 days, but I wonder if you cancel the service if that is true. I guess someone will offer an unlock service for a nominal amount eventually.
Cancellation and Returns. Service Cancellation: You can cancel a new line of Service, and if applicable, not pay an Early Termination Fee, if you cancel WITHIN 14 DAYS of activating that new line of Service (some states may differ – ask your sales representative) (“Cancellation Period”). You remain responsible for all Charges incurred through the date of cancellation. To cancel Service during the Cancellation Period, you may be required to go to the place where you activated Service and return any T-Mobile Device you acquired at the time of activation. You must return your T-Mobile Device in its package with all original contents, undamaged and in good working condition with no material alterations to the Device’s hardware or software. If you do not return your T-Mobile Device or if you return your T-Mobile Device in a damaged, altered or destroyed condition, we may take one or more of the following actions: (a) prevent your T-Mobile Device from working on any network; (b) charge you the Early Termination Fee(if your line of Service is subject to an early termination fee); (c) elect not to process your Service cancellation; or (d) charge you the suggested retail price or the cost to repair a damaged, destroyed, or non-returned T-Mobile Device, (which may be greater than the price you paid), plus any shipping and handling charges. Device Refunds and Restocking Fees: For T-Mobile Device and accessory returns and exchanges, see the applicable return policy, which is available at your place of purchase. Some T-Mobile Devices and accessories may not be refunded or exchanged, and you may be required to pay a restocking fee.
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I am wondering if it just might be less hassle to wait a few days after the phone ship and buy it from Flea-Bay or Swappa or such, where the phone may come unlocked (to TMOB carrier) out of the box?
I just came back from T-Mobile store and question them why I cannot get any reception since I switched over to them from AT&T about 30 hours ago. I was doing well with my unlocked T-Mobile Note 3 with AT&T with LTE data signal for about 1 year. I bought the T-Mobile Note 3 from Negri Electronics with an unlocked code to unlock my phone so that I can use it with AT&T carrier.
Anyway, today the T-Mobile representative told me that I did not get any reception signal from T-Mobile is because the my Note 3 was a stolen phone and that the phone is black listed by T-Mobile.
Now I cannot use my phone at all.
When I checked back at Negri Electronics web site to make a complain, I found out that the site no longer exist. The phone number is also not working.
Is this company a scam company all these years?
Last year I bought a note 3 N900T from Negri. The first phone was IMEI blacklisted by tmobile after 3 days. The second replacement phone didn't boot normally (iy booted into download mode
directly). So I returned it again.
The third replacement note 3 is working perfectly.
Negri Electronics was sold by Negri to another private investment company at the end of last year.
Now the company seems have trouble and shutting down.
I think there is nothing you can do now.
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googlephone said:
Last year I bought a note 3 N900T from Negri. The first phone was IMEI blacklisted by tmobile after 3 days. The second replacement phone didn't boot normally (iy booted into download mode
directly). So I returned it again.
The third replacement note 3 is working perfectly.
Negri Electronics was sold by Negri to another private investment company at the end of last year.
Now the company seems have trouble and shutting down.
I think there is nothing you can do now.
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So now my Note 3 is a micro tablet since all I can do now is use Wi-Fi to access the internet and play android games?
I think I will give it to someone who has AT&T or Straight Talk service since the phone was working fine 2 days ago when I was with AT&T.
That sucks, but guess if you can't sell, you can use it as a trade in device for credit? all they seem to care about on trade-ins is that it powers on.
Earthbrain said:
So now my Note 3 is a micro tablet since all I can do now is use Wi-Fi to access the internet and play android games?
I think I will give it to someone who has AT&T or Straight Talk service since the phone was working fine 2 days ago when I was with AT&T.
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I have heard some people have success with region lock away app. Can't say for sure, but I know a buddy of mine had his shut down. Don't know if it was just not payed or reported stolen. (Nasty divorce) anyways, We used region app and it was working again.
Since you were using it on AT&T, that means it's only blocked from T-Mobile, not blacklisted from all GSM carriers.
If you don't want to go back to AT&T, you can try MVNOs, which are smaller carriers that rely on a parent company for a network. Parent companies in the US are AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon, and Sprint. There are over a hundred MVNOs. You can only use the ones that run on AT&T's network. I've been using Net10 for 2 years. I'm on the $50 plan which has unlimited talk/text + 2.5GB 4G LTE data. Pretty great deal. Other carriers you could go for: Straight Talk, H2O, Airvoice, Red Pocket, GoPhone, etc
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Is this company a scam company all these years?
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Everyone was screaming scam last year when they had backorder issues with the Note 3 here on XDA. A few people on here who got theirs were the only ones defending them. There were at least 2 threads here.
Anyways, either sell it as T-Mobile blacklisted or use it on another carrier, there's nothing T-Mobile will do unless you received a blacklisted device from warranty exchange (which happened to me once).
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So now my Note 3 is a micro tablet since all I can do now is use Wi-Fi to access the internet and play android games?
I think I will give it to someone who has AT&T or Straight Talk service since the phone was working fine 2 days ago when I was with AT&T.
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You are best off selling it because At&T will blacklist it very soon because T-Mobile and AT&T now share the blacklist database now. A friend of mine had purchased a stolen phone on Craigslist, it was a T-Mobile Galaxy Note 3, it worked fine for a few hours after buying it but then it was blacklisted. He then had the phone SIM unlocked to use on AT&T. It worked for about 2 weeks until AT&T then blacklisted it too. Pretty much, since you inserted a T-Mobile SIM that is not the original one that came with the stolen phone when it was activated will result in the phone being flagged on AT&T because you previously used AT&T, now AT&T will block your phone because T-Mobile gave them a heads up. Sell it before it's blacklisted on AT&T.
It's been known since late 2012 that both T-Mobile and AT&T share the blacklist database along with Sprint and Verizon now, so that means even the smaller carriers that use any of the 4 major cell towers will also blacklist the phone sooner than later.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/1/3584466/att-t-mobile-stolen-cellphone-database
So yes, you now have an expensive wifi-only mini tablet in the US, your only hope of using it for cell service is to move and use the cell internationally or sell it to someone internationally.
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You are best off selling it because At&T will blacklist it very soon because T-Mobile and AT&T now share the blacklist database now. A friend of mine had purchased a stolen phone on Craigslist, it was a T-Mobile Galaxy Note 3, it worked fine for a few hours after buying it but then it was blacklisted. He then had the phone SIM unlocked to use on AT&T. It worked for about 2 weeks until AT&T then blacklisted it too. Pretty much, since you inserted a T-Mobile SIM that is not the original one that came with the stolen phone when it was activated will result in the phone being flagged on AT&T because you previously used AT&T, now AT&T will block your phone because T-Mobile gave them a heads up. Sell it before it's blacklisted on AT&T.
It's been known since late 2012 that both T-Mobile and AT&T share the blacklist database along with Sprint and Verizon now, so that means even the smaller carriers that use any of the 4 major cell towers will also blacklist the phone sooner than later.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/1/3584466/att-t-mobile-stolen-cellphone-database
So yes, you now have an expensive wifi-only mini tablet in the US, your only hope of using it for cell service is to move and use the cell internationally or sell it to someone internationally.
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just use the 45 dollar plan from straight talk
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You are best off selling it because At&T will blacklist it very soon because T-Mobile and AT&T now share the blacklist database now. A friend of mine had purchased a stolen phone on Craigslist, it was a T-Mobile Galaxy Note 3, it worked fine for a few hours after buying it but then it was blacklisted. He then had the phone SIM unlocked to use on AT&T. It worked for about 2 weeks until AT&T then blacklisted it too. Pretty much, since you inserted a T-Mobile SIM that is not the original one that came with the stolen phone when it was activated will result in the phone being flagged on AT&T because you previously used AT&T, now AT&T will block your phone because T-Mobile gave them a heads up. Sell it before it's blacklisted on AT&T.
It's been known since late 2012 that both T-Mobile and AT&T share the blacklist database along with Sprint and Verizon now, so that means even the smaller carriers that use any of the 4 major cell towers will also blacklist the phone sooner than later.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/1/3584466/att-t-mobile-stolen-cellphone-database
So yes, you now have an expensive wifi-only mini tablet in the US, your only hope of using it for cell service is to move and use the cell internationally or sell it to someone internationally.
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That's not selling, it called sticking it to someone else. He was burned so now burn someone else?
Live and learn, don't gamble big money for small gains. Buy from someone or some place, where you can return it if it's not right. I bought mine from T-Mobile.
Thread cleaned and respectfully, I understand your frustration.
However there isn't much that XDA folks are going to be able to offer in the way of assistance in this matter.
As a result I'm going to go ahead and close the thread off before it gets derailed by illegal discussions a second time.
You may want to contact your local police department though to see if you need to file a report for receiving stolen goods.
I have been with AT&T for years. Two lines grandfathered unlimited and the other two I have to pay for data. Today Verizon came out with unlimted. I have a couple tablets on a Verizon plan and want to now switch my phone plan to Verizon and have unlimited for everyone. AT&T's service has been getting very bad for me over the last several years. Constant dropped calls and even though I have unlimited data, the signal is so bad I sometimes can't use it.
I am I die-hard Note fan. I had the first Note, the Note 2 and now the Note 4. On AT&T, I had to buy an outright 910C to be able to use AT&T. I am an engineer and must have rooted phones for some of the things I use. I refuse to use Note 5 for lack of sd card. I was so disappointed when the Note 7 failed. I use my stylus all the time so I really don't want to switch from a Note 4.
I am trying to figure out which variant of the Note 4 I need to work on Verizon's network. I know for a long time, Verizon's was un-rootable just like AT&T. Can someone point me to what I need to buy? Even if there is a Verizon version that is now rootable and that I can buy.
I've been researching most of the day today, but figured I would go ahead and ask since someone could probably more easily give me a definitive answer.
Thanks everyone!
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I have been with AT&T for years. Two lines grandfathered unlimited and the other two I have to pay for data. Today Verizon came out with unlimted. I have a couple tablets on a Verizon plan and want to now switch my phone plan to Verizon and have unlimited for everyone. AT&T's service has been getting very bad for me over the last several years. Constant dropped calls and even though I have unlimited data, the signal is so bad I sometimes can't use it.
I am I die-hard Note fan. I had the first Note, the Note 2 and now the Note 4. On AT&T, I had to buy an outright 910C to be able to use AT&T. I am an engineer and must have rooted phones for some of the things I use. I refuse to use Note 5 for lack of sd card. I was so disappointed when the Note 7 failed. I use my stylus all the time so I really don't want to switch from a Note 4.
I am trying to figure out which variant of the Note 4 I need to work on Verizon's network. I know for a long time, Verizon's was un-rootable just like AT&T. Can someone point me to what I need to buy? Even if there is a Verizon version that is now rootable and that I can buy.
I've been researching most of the day today, but figured I would go ahead and ask since someone could probably more easily give me a definitive answer.
Thanks everyone!
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