Hello
Apologies if this has been covered before, but couldn't find anything in search.
I'm setting up a new UK unit which is currently running 51.1.4.0_user_514005520. Can I update to 51.1.4.0_user_514006420 (1 version up) without root? That's the version that fixes kodi/spmc launch crash. I'm thinking maybe there is a dir I can copy the update to and reboot the device. But, even then, I would hazard a guess that you need root to copy it there :/
This is my first experience with a unrooted box since US launch (I imported one and rooted from the start) so not sure if this is possible to do. I want to avoid updating to the latest firmware if I can.
Thanks!
eskay993 said:
Hello
Apologies if this has been covered before, but couldn't find anything in search.
I'm setting up a new UK unit which is currently running 51.1.4.0_user_514005520. Can I update to 51.1.4.0_user_514006420 (1 version up) without root? That's the version that fixes kodi/spmc launch crash. I'm thinking maybe there is a dir I can copy the update to and reboot the device. But, even then, I would hazard a guess that you need root to copy it there :/
This is my first experience with a unrooted box since US launch (I imported one and rooted from the start) so not sure if this is possible to do. I want to avoid updating to the latest firmware if I can.
Thanks!
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Never mind. I think I found the answer. Remembered an old guide on aftnews. Guess you do need root.
http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-manually-upgrade-or-downgrade-the-amazon-fire-tv/
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I recently started getting system update notices for 3.26.605.1 on my D-Inc.
I'm running the "standard" clockworkmod recovery that flashed when I rooted the phone. As I understand it, I can not install the update because I'm rooted so is there a way that I can stop the notices (without unrooting and going stock)?
I've also read chatter on other forums about a fix or "root version" on the way from unrevoked, but I haven't been able to find anything official.
Can anyone confirm an update from unrevoked?
Thanks.
Hey Dude,
I figured I would get to you before the wolves do lol you'll probably get a better response to your questions in the "General" section. To answer you directly there is already rooted versions of this OTA such as (shameless plug) both my Roms Redemptive rEVOlution (Evo hybrid) and Redemption Rom.
OK. Thanks.
RuLEoF2 said:
OK. Thanks.
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Not a problem enjoy Rom hunting.
RuLEoF2 said:
I recently started getting system update notices for 3.26.605.1 on my D-Inc.
I'm running the "standard" clockworkmod recovery that flashed when I rooted the phone. As I understand it, I can not install the update because I'm rooted so is there a way that I can stop the notices (without unrooting and going stock)?
I've also read chatter on other forums about a fix or "root version" on the way from unrevoked, but I haven't been able to find anything official.
Can anyone confirm an update from unrevoked?
Thanks.
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I've been hitting Cancel on that update message for the last 2 weeks. Today I read about it a bit, and finally just gave in and ran the update. I don't know if it actually updated, but the message is gone, it says my system is up to date, and I still have S-OFF/root. FWIW.
jrocket said:
I've been hitting Cancel on that update message for the last 2 weeks. Today I read about it a bit, and finally just gave in and ran the update. I don't know if it actually updated, but the message is gone, it says my system is up to date, and I still have S-OFF/root. FWIW.
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you can edit the build prop to make it stop search the skyraider thread i think its in there.
ACD168 said:
you can edit the build prop to make it stop search the skyraider thread i think its in there.
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I saw that, thanks. I wanted the update, I just couldn't find any solid answers on whether it disabled root or not. It sounded like it disabled root but left S-OFF alone, so I did ran the update, thinking I could root it again later. But now I still have root, so I don't know if the update was actually applied or not.
I'm not worried either way, it was just an experience relevant to the OP's question.
jrocket said:
I saw that, thanks. I wanted the update, I just couldn't find any solid answers on whether it disabled root or not. It sounded like it disabled root but left S-OFF alone, so I did ran the update, thinking I could root it again later. But now I still have root, so I don't know if the update was actually applied or not.
I'm not worried either way, it was just an experience relevant to the OP's question.
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Go into Settings/About Phone and see what firmware version you have, if it's 26 your updated, if it's still 21, it didn't update.
If you don't know if it's updated, it's prolly not. You would've known as it would've rebooted and then had run the update. If you don't recall any of that, your not updated.
Like was posted previously, you'd be better off finding which ROM has the update and then just flash that, be sure to do a backup 1st and foremost in case you screw up, you can always flash back to what you had and start over.
The only way that update will take is if you have stock with just root and no changes, I did this initially though and you will loose root, which is why I recommend you backup before trying, this way you don't have to root over again.
Edit build.prop. Here is the configuration you'll need to change to stop the OTA updates. This will also help save your battery if it frequently tries to download on 3G.
ro.build.fingerprint=verizon_wwe/inc/inc/inc:2.2/FRF91/264707:user/release-keys
RuLEoF2 said:
I recently started getting system update notices for 3.26.605.1 on my D-Inc.
I'm running the "standard" clockworkmod recovery that flashed when I rooted the phone. As I understand it, I can not install the update because I'm rooted so is there a way that I can stop the notices (without unrooting and going stock)?
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If you want to stay put on the version you have now, not accept the update, not be bothered by it again, then following bsdbytes's info for editing the build.prop is what you need to do.
If you want to accept and the NOV OTA update and still have clockworkmod recovery and root after... see -> http://solo.dc3.com/dinc/ (If you have an SLCD incredible, be carefull of which CWM Recovery version you use).
RuLEoF2 said:
I've also read chatter on other forums about a fix or "root version" on the way from unrevoked, but I haven't been able to find anything official.
Can anyone confirm an update from unrevoked?
Thanks.
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The current Unrevoked3 (ver 3.21) does not work to root the Nov OTA, nor install a custom recovery. There were tweets about an update coming, but delays due to thanksgiving, finals, etc. I haven't seen an ETA posted yet.
joelcableguy said:
Go into Settings/About Phone and see what firmware version you have, if it's 26 your updated, if it's still 21, it didn't update.
If you don't know if it's updated, it's prolly not. You would've known as it would've rebooted and then had run the update. If you don't recall any of that, your not updated.
The only way that update will take is if you have stock with just root and no changes, I did this initially though and you will loose root, which is why I recommend you backup before trying, this way you don't have to root over again.
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thanks for the info. you're right, it didn't update, i'm still at 21. when i clicked update a window came up saying it was going to reboot, but it never did. must be due to change i had on the device.
KidJoe said:
If you want to stay put on the version you have now, not accept the update, not be bothered by it again, then following bsdbytes's info for editing the build.prop is what you need to do.
If you want to accept and the NOV OTA update and still have clockworkmod recovery and root after... see -> LINK (If you have an SLCD incredible, be carefull of which CWM Recovery version you use).
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thanks for that link - i'll try to go through that when i get a chance.
I'm a little confused. I thought updates couldn't be pushed to a rooted aftv with CWM? I was initially happy to see HBOGo finally came to fire tv, then disappointed my cable provider doesn't support it (but not too surprised since they suck!)
But then it occurred to me...how did this happen? I'm rooted and I have CWM and I use the latest pre-rooted firmware. I didn't think updates could occur.
My root isn't broken, bootloader is unlocked and everything works fine. Maybe when I reset it in cwm a few weeks back I did n't disable updates afterward (since then I did check and made sure I disabled them) but even if I did forget I thought updates couldn't happen?
Then I thought maybe app updates are different but that still makes no sense since I needed to upgrade my firmware to get the new Netflix app awhile back. Can someone explain this? Thanks.
Firmware update wasn't required for HBO GO afaik.
So, the other day I got the 5.0 OTA on my rooted 4.4.2, and I naively updated it, without knowing that:
1 - I'd loose root and my recovery
2 - There's no way to root 5.0
After two days of trying stuff, I finally understood what many people know, I suppose, but I couldn't see it written clearly anywhere, so I thought I'd share. You have to:
1 - Flash back 4.4.2
2 - Root 4.4.2
3 - Flash a custom recovery
4 - Flash a rooted 5.0 from custom recovery
I now have a rooted 5.0
Here. It's not very complicated to do, but maybe it's so obvious for people who know it that they never care to put it like this (I'm not complaining, I actually did find all the information I needed on XDA and learned a good deal of things about my phone on the way so it's cool).
You cant.
DelBoy said:
You cant.
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Sorry I lack experience so much with the forum that I posted without any content initially so you must have thought that I was asking for the solution. I get that you can't simply root 5.0, but you can actually get 5.0 rooted if your phone has 5.0 non rooted by switching to 4.4.2 first, which is really what people want to do when they ask that question. I have seen your answer before, and almost gave up trying, but I'm glad I insisted. Just saying "you can't" is just being deliberately unhelpful (or not knowing what you are talking about).
GordonFreemanK said:
Sorry I lack experience so much with the forum that I posted without any content initially so you must have thought that I was asking for the solution. I get that you can't simply root 5.0, but you can actually get 5.0 rooted if your phone has 5.0 non rooted by switching to 4.4.2 first, which is really what people want to do when they ask that question. I have seen your answer before, and almost gave up trying, but I'm glad I insisted. Just saying "you can't" is just being deliberately unhelpful (or not knowing what you are talking about).
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Yeah, there was only name of the thread and word "So"
So I thought you were looking for solution :laugh:
Some more information on how to get there:
To get 5.0 rooted, you need to:
- take note of which 5.0 version you have on your phone and check you can get the bumped image somewhere, if you want to have exactly the same at the end.
- update LG PC Suite or at least the Windows drivers for the G3? Honestly I'm not sure how important this is, since I was playing around for hours and I did that in the process, maybe it's necessary. It is necessary to have the drivers installed at least.
- find the 4.4.2 version of the ROM for your phone (mine was V10e-EUR-XX), versions are different for 16GB/32GB versions.
- flash it with Flashtool (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785089)
- root using your favourite tool (I used one I had on my PC, not sure which version but PurpleDrake should do: http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/root-root-lg-g3-easily-purpledrake-lite-t2821000)
- find a TWRP image
- flash TWRP (I used this tutorial: http://www.phonearena.com/news/How-to-flash-a-custom-recovery-like-CWM-or-TWRP-on-Android_id53914)
- find the bumped version of 5.0 for your phone (mine is V20e-EUR-XX and I found it on this forum)
- flash it using TWRP
- start the phone and set it up (it should be rooted already)
- install the SuperSU binaries using TWRP
Fun and heavy Titanium Backup freezes ensue! My phone has now 80% battery left 8h after being disconnected from the charger this morning, as opposed to 60% after two hours just after installing the OTA update.
Note: this was done on the unlocked 16GB European D855 version I bought in the UK. Not sure about other versions!
Bonus: in order to improve my battery life, besides Titanium-Backup-freezing the hell of the LG bloatware (I think McAfee and LG Health are the main culprits) and some Google bloatware I don't use (Google Play Apps anyone?) I also disabled knock on by following the advice #8 in this tutorial: http://www.androidauthority.com/lg-g3-problems-517832/
I've read all about the problem with rooting the G3 Stock Lollipop Version.
But there is no info, where I can find out WHY it is how it is.
So, why is 5.0 actually unrootable? And will this change in future?
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I've read all about the problem with rooting the G3 Stock Lollipop Version.
But there is no info, where I can find out WHY it is how it is.
So, why is 5.0 actually unrootable? And will this change in future?
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Ummm. Have you tried looking on XDA?
There was a BIG post with details. The technical part is here: link
No, this won't change. Restricting services to their context means that bug in almost any service won't be able to compromise entire system. That's a great security feature, actually.
New firmware T700ZSU1ANL1 and T800ZSU1ANL1 (Hong Kong both).*
Can i install these in europeans tablets?
Thanks
Any ideas?
I have installed it on the US WiFi only version, so I don't see it being a problem, if it doesn't install you can always Odin back to your stock rom... if you have a 3/4g type tablet then you may want to not flash it..... I'm digging the new kernel personally.
Itchiee said:
I have installed it on the US WiFi only version, so I don't see it being a problem, if it doesn't install you can always Odin back to your stock rom... if you have a 3/4g type tablet then you may want to not flash it..... I'm digging the new kernel personally.
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Thanks
I have installed it in european firmware, portuguese one to be exact (FNAB), no issues at all.
Zootopia said:
I have installed it in european firmware, portuguese one to be exact (FNAB), no issues at all.
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I installed, thanks, no issues.
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I installed, thanks, no issues.
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Can anyone confirm that flashing update from a different region manually via Odin on an unrooted device will have exactly the same result as if it was an official OTA update (apart maybe from overwriting /data).
So there should be no problem getting OTA Lollipop when it eventually arrives? And apps which check if device is rooted like the banking and TV ones(Barclays, Sky Go etc) should be seeing 100% official unrooted OS?
Restorer said:
Can anyone confirm that flashing update from a different region manually via Odin on an unrooted device will have exactly the same result as if it was an official OTA update (apart maybe from overwriting /data).
So there should be no problem getting OTA Lollipop when it eventually arrives? And apps which check if device is rooted like the banking and TV ones(Barclays, Sky Go etc) should be seeing 100% official unrooted OS?
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Theres an app calplled root cloak to hide root from apps. I dont really care on being on stock rom just to get ota lollipop. There would most liekly be a custom rooted lollipop rom when lollipop is out.
DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
Theres an app calped root cloak to hide root from apps. I dont really care on being on stock rom just to get ota lollipop. There would most liekly be a custom rooted lollipop rom when lollipop is out.
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Unfortunately none of the cloaking apps work on Sky Go or Barclays and other banking apps. Neither does RootCloak or RootCloak Plus Xposed mods .
That is why I asked the question. Not really bothered if it just means losing OTAs - provided everything else is still 100% official unrooted after Odin upgrade of UK tab with HK firmware. That's why I ask will this be the case?
Restorer said:
Can anyone confirm that flashing update from a different region manually via Odin on an unrooted device will have exactly the same result as if it was an official OTA update (apart maybe from overwriting /data).
So there should be no problem getting OTA Lollipop when it eventually arrives? And apps which check if device is rooted like the banking and TV ones(Barclays, Sky Go etc) should be seeing 100% official unrooted OS?
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I do not know.
My intention when the Lollipop version is released is to repeat the procedure and flash via Odin. I live in Argentina and here things come too late.
Tavocampana said:
I do not know.
My intention when the Lollipop version is released is to repeat the procedure and flash via Odin. I live in Argentina and here things come too late.
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Yeah, I'd do that too. But these apps are too important to me to risk losing them so I will probably just chicken out and wait for the OTA. Thing is, if the update works, I can't see any reason why the root-checking apps would be able to tell except if they were spotting non-UK codes. I do know their checks are a lot more sophisticated than looking only for the presence of SU and busybox. They for sure examine parts of the kernel and the DRM files as well.
My logic tells me that if the apps don't work with the HK firmware then all I need do is to flash back to the official UK XXU1 version. That's why I am just asking is anyone knows of any other differences that might be exposed using the Odin method to update?
Hi,
i'm currently on firmware 51.1.3.0 and i got my FT just lying around here and want to use it.
So my question is, should i upgrade to the latest firmware and just use it or be patient until a root for my version is released because of the efuse stuff?
Is anyone working on a new root method atm?
Raptor270 said:
Hi,
i'm currently on firmware 51.1.3.0 and i got my FT just lying around here and want to use it.
So my question is, should i upgrade to the latest firmware and just use it or be patient until a root for my version is released because of the efuse stuff?
Is anyone working on a new root method atm?
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I doubt anyone is working on rooting newer firmware, cause they already have their firmware rooted so I doubt they have interest in rooting the newer firmware. Not trying to speak for any devs that have worked on these devices, but that seems to be the way it goes, they have already accomplished their goal of rooting the device so if newer unrootable firmware gets released its not really a problem for them. I am predicting right now that unless a new firmware with major updates gets released that requires you to have stock firmware to update then no newer firmwares will ever get root. I could be wrong, but I doubt it so its really up to you.
porkenhimer said:
I doubt anyone is working on rooting newer firmware ...
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I have no doubt somebody is working on it. These are self-challenged, self-motivated people. And Amazon threw down the gauntlet.
As to Raptor's first question, you have it. Why not use it?
cant block updates on my router and dont want to update past the fuse update... -.-