What to do after root? (for xbmc) - Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I[ve rooted my fire tv.
I'm trying to figure out if I;m supposed to install xbmc through side load.
Or if there is a better way since I have root?
I'm a total noob to XMBC and the fire tv.
I'd also like to be able to plug in a media USB HDD I have to watching my local movies.
But I've always messed with android phones, dab commands, and custom roms.
Any guide or direction would be nice, please and thank you.

Why xbmc ? Install kodi it's newer version of xbmc. And use adbfire to sideload it.
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patt2k said:
Why xbmc ? Install kodi it's newer version of xbmc. And use adbfire to sideload it.
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yes, sorry.
I guess I meant Kodi, and I've heard good things of spmc as well.
I just wanted to know if sideloading is the way to go with root. I guess it is. I have a guide that takes me through the steps with sideload instructions. I'll give 'er a go.
Thanks.

sidmuer said:
yes, sorry.
I guess I meant Kodi, and I've heard good things of spmc as well.
I just wanted to know if sideloading is the way to go with root. I guess it is. I have a guide that takes me through the steps with sideload instructions. I'll give 'er a go.
Thanks.
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No root is needed for sideloading. Make sure you block amazon updates though.
Spmc is outdated now a little
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If you istall a browser on your Fire TV you can simply just download XBMC/Kodi and install it. No need to use adb.

porkenhimer said:
If you istall a browser on your Fire TV you can simply just download XBMC/Kodi and install it. No need to use adb.
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How will he install browser without adb ;P
it's easier to simply extract .apk from your phone/tablet then download that apk to your computer and sideload it.

patt2k said:
How will he install browser without adb ;P
it's easier to simply extract .apk from your phone/tablet then download that apk to your computer and sideload it.
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Both ways will work, but in reality everything can be done on the Fire TV to install and get apps without ever needing another device. The first thing I did when I got my Fire TV was install ES File Explorer, turned on the network manager, sent Maxathon Browser apk to Es File Explorer using Filezilla and have not needed adb one time. Not only can I download anything straight to my Fire TV, but I have third party app stores installed so why would I even need to transfer apps? If you have Es File Explorer, a browser and third party app stores installed its by far the easiest way to get and install apps without ever needing to use adb. Its all done on the Fire TV and it does not get easier than that. I can open 1mobile Market and have five apps installed by the time you can send one app through adb. I can download a big file and within seconds be using it without having to wait 10 minutes for it to be sent through adb. Even if I need to send something from my PC or phone I use FTP. I use andftp on my droid devices and Filezilla on my PC to send files or I simply use Pushbullet. You can send just about anything with Pushbullet and can send to multiple devices at the same time. Not knocking adb, but for me its never needed for sending files. The last time I used adb for sending a file was years ago. Its just not my preference, but I understand why people use it, cause its their preference. I honestly think using a browser for downloads and third party app stores for pps is so much easier that using adb, but thats just my opinion.

patt2k said:
How will he install browser without adb ;P
it's easier to simply extract .apk from your phone/tablet then download that apk to your computer and sideload it.
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Can't I just adb push the file onto the ftv, and adb install it in terminal ?
I don't mind using terminal commands...

Or just use this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2786505

patt2k said:
Spmc is outdated now a little
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Even compared to SPMC 14.1? http://spmc.semperpax.com/

porkenhimer said:
Both ways will work, but in reality everything can be done on the Fire TV to install and get apps without ever needing another device. The first thing I did when I got my Fire TV was install ES File Explorer, turned on the network manager, sent Maxathon Browser apk to Es File Explorer using Filezilla and have not needed adb one time. Not only can I download anything straight to my Fire TV, but I have third party app stores installed so why would I even need to transfer apps? If you have Es File Explorer, a browser and third party app stores installed its by far the easiest way to get and install apps without ever needing to use adb. Its all done on the Fire TV and it does not get easier than that. I can open 1mobile Market and have five apps installed by the time you can send one app through adb. I can download a big file and within seconds be using it without having to wait 10 minutes for it to be sent through adb. Even if I need to send something from my PC or phone I use FTP. I use andftp on my droid devices and Filezilla on my PC to send files or I simply use Pushbullet. You can send just about anything with Pushbullet and can send to multiple devices at the same time. Not knocking adb, but for me its never needed for sending files. The last time I used adb for sending a file was years ago. Its just not my preference, but I understand why people use it, cause its their preference. I honestly think using a browser for downloads and third party app stores for pps is so much easier that using adb, but thats just my opinion.
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Sure you can use other markets even aptoide there is bunch of choices I prefer to extract from playstore some apps that I even bought or because playstore had newest versions. I don't need to sideload 5 apps within 1 minute, I sideload the ones that I need.
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Axecaster said:
Even compared to SPMC 14.1? http://spmc.semperpax.com/
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I don't use it so I wouldn't know if it was updated. I just stick with kodi and update when newest stable releases are there.

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[Q] rooted kf running Social Scope?

Before I start rooting my fire will I be able to use social scope? That is the main reason why I'd root my fire.
Thanks in advance.
davvesdavves said:
Before I start rooting my fire will I be able to use social scope? That is the main reason why I'd root my fire.
Thanks in advance.
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Even though it is not available in the amazon app store you can still side-load the app without rooting. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/64660113/com.alphascope-1_0.9.20.apk
Steps for installation: (in case you don't know how)
1. Download the above file
2. Place the file onto your SD partition of your kindle
3. Go to settings>device>allow installation of applications from unknown sources>ON
4. Find the app file on your SD card with any file explorer app (ES File Explorer will work)
5. Click on the file and then select install and enjoy the app
davvesdavves said:
Before I start rooting my fire will I be able to use social scope? That is the main reason why I'd root my fire.
Thanks in advance.
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Works fine in ICS.
thanks a lot!
I will give this a shot when I get home!
Thanks for the walk thru as well
davvesdavves said:
I will give this a shot when I get home!
Thanks for the walk thru as well
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No problem! I thought of this afterwards but you can also elect to find this page on the web browser on your kindle and download from there so you don't have to use your computer. If that is what you do it will download to the "download" folder on your SD.

can I has 2nd gen swype?!

Hey so I just bought my nephew a kindle fire 2nd gen and am a little jealous that he has swype. is there any way to get it on my 1st gen? I am rooted and have it so that I can click my little clover icon and go to go launcher and have the android market place but I did that when the fire first came out and then havent participated in the forums since so Im really behind on all the terminology and stuff here so cant find what im looking for.
I still want my kindle to be a kindle so I dont want to flash a rom over top of it or anything like that I would just basically like to update it to 2nd gen stuff
thanks
How?
Ichigo said:
First, install the swype app/installer and run the installer. Then...
How would you copy the app and change the permissions?
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It didn't work
Ichigo said:
Using a file explorer
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Every File Explorer I have tried says it does not have permission to copy Swype to system/app.
I have tried es file explorer, anttek file manager, file explorer, and file manager.
What one did you use?
sarksark said:
Every File Explorer I have tried says it does not have permission to copy Swype to system/app.
I have tried es file explorer, anttek file manager, file explorer, and file manager.
What one did you use?
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Wait... Have you rooted your Fire?
Root Explorer is the best and it gets the job done quickly. You may have to shell out a few dollars though. It can be found easily on Amazon's Android AppStore.
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gadgetroid said:
Wait... Have you rooted your Fire?
Root Explorer is the best and it gets the job done quickly. You may have to shell out a few dollars though. It can be found easily on Amazon's Android AppStore.
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I have not rooted my Kindle Fire. I also use 1Mobile Market as well as Amazon Appstore.
Would it be possible to move Swype and change the permissions using a computer?
sarksark said:
I have not rooted my Kindle Fire. I also use 1Mobile Market as well as Amazon Appstore.
Would it be possible to move Swype and change the permissions using a computer?
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No! Absolutely not! The /system partition on the internal memory of your device is not considered userspace. You need to have admin or root privileges to do that.
If you have ever used a Linux PC before, you will notice that to install an app, you have to type in
sudo apt-get install x
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Over here, sudo asks the system admin for permission before it can make changes to the system. On Android, rooting is similar, but is easily managed through an app.
Rooting is a very simple process, and I can guarantee you that nothing will happen to your KF.
For rooting your KF: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27586514
For more information on root: What is rooting on Android?
More reasons why you should root your Android: Nine Reasons To Root Your Android Device
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[Q] Ouya File Server

Can anyone point me to any kind of file server for the Ouya? CIFS would be ideal but I can handle NFS or FTP too.
I've done my research here and in other forums and am not seeing any clear answer. What I want to do is to be able to remotely copy and delete files to and from the USB key attached to my Ouya.
Why not use ssh for that ?
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dexter84 said:
Why not use ssh for that ?
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Okay. I see guides for rooting and installing Busybox. I'm not hugely familiar with Busybox. Does Busybox provide an SSH *server* so I can ssh into the Ouya? I *am* familiar with ssh file transfers on my other servers.
I've seen other requests for an SSH server on the Ouya but no clear answers.
Once you root ouya install something like this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=web.oss.sshsftpDaemon
Set it up and leave it running. You will be able to use any ssh client (like putty) to log into ouya and exec any command you need including copying or moving files.
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dexter84 said:
Once you root ouya install something like this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=web.oss.sshsftpDaemon
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Okay, I thought about that. Early on with my first Android phone I installed a similar app so I could log into my phone from my workstation and play with it. But I'd need to somehow get the APK from Google Play and then sideload it. How do you extract an APK from the store?
Edit:
Actually, searching not too hard turns up things like:
https://code.google.com/p/droidsshd/
And other sshd APK files. But they all do need access to a shell.
Found a solution.
After reading an Ouya review today, the reviewer was all gaga about using AirDroid to manage your Ouya. I had played with this class of "web desktop" apps years ago with my first Android phone. You run the app and then connect to your Android device with your browser. The app gives you a desktop that lets you manipulate your device.
Unfortunately AirDroid is a paid app and costs $1.99 a month. The free version is limited to 100MB of transfers per month which just isn't enough if you're transferring game images for your Ouya emulators.
So instead I found 3CX DroidDesktop which does what I need to do. Here it is on Google Play:
DroidDesktop on Google Play
But of course we can't use Google Play on our Ouya so here is where you can download an APK:
DroidDesktop at android-appstore
Now I thought there used to be a sideloading menu on the Ouya. I guess the last update did away with it. But fortunately the guy who did Mupen64PlusAE (one of the emulators) released FilePwn:
FilePwn on OuyaForum
Which lets you surf the Ouya file system and install packages. Install it through the normal Ouya method. Looks like it's free (as in beer free.)
DroidDesktop isn't a perfect solution. You have to specifically run it when you want to perform file management and the way the Ouya is setup an app takes over the machine and I have no idea how to switch away and do the multitasking I know Android is capable of. But it works and does *not* require rooting. I was able to surf to my USB key and copy and delete files from a Windows workstation.
Edit:
Whoops. FilePwn was *not* released by PaulsCode.com but by littleguy77. Paul just gave him a thumbs-up. My bad.
I like ftpdroid and it runs in the background.
tennisbgc said:
I like ftpdroid and it runs in the background.
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I'll give it shot.
tennisbgc said:
I like ftpdroid and it runs in the background.
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It took me a bit to figure out how to get the APK to sideload FTPDroid. I ended up using APK Extractor:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sylark.apkextractor&hl=en
on my Nexus 7 to get the file. But now after sideloading when I run FTPDroid, it drops right back to the Ouya menu. I'm having the same issue with ES File Explorer. Both are apps that are supposed to run on the Ouya just fine.
Does anyone have any ideas? Is this some issue running Google Play apps on the Ouya?
tennisbgc said:
I like ftpdroid and it runs in the background.
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when i launch ftpdroid on my ouya it crashes immediately
krzee said:
when i launch ftpdroid on my ouya it crashes immediately
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Cant say ive run into this problem. Are you rooted?
Have you tried samba filesharing from google app store? I use it on all of my devices but have not tried it out on ouya.
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I use it https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.funkyfresh.samba
And work fine !
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I use dropbox & copy to get files to the Ouya.
It's a little more roundabout, but i can download files at work, put them in the @ouya folder in copy, then download when i get home.
I use StockPlus Room that have CIFs support + Mount Manager (free and paid options) and conect to my Time Capsule 3T, and forget the memory limitations on OUYA.
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Nice skeleton solution!!!
I've used [and am using] the servers ultimate pro
but I'll keep this one as a backup
ES File Explorer
I've tried nearly all the set-ups above but the one I find most reliable uses ES File Explorer. No need for root or anything else.
Sideload ES File Explorer
Open ES File Explorer
Go to Remote Manager, under tools
Go to Settings (for remote manager)
Turn off 'Close on exit'
Set root directory as your external USB drive connected to the OUYA
Exit settings, and turn on WLAN
I then use an Filezilla to transfer all my downloaded files from my Desktop directly to the correct folder locations on the USB drive connected to the OUYA. I get really solid speeds on the transfer between the two devices.
I can then leave the OUYA in XBMC mode, while being able to transfer any downloads very quickly to the USB drive whenever I want.
Note: I found this worked best when OUYA was connected via wi-fi. Ethernet was problematic
chadley78 said:
I've tried nearly all the set-ups above but the one I find most reliable uses ES File Explorer. No need for root or anything else.
Sideload ES File Explorer
Open ES File Explorer
Go to Remote Manager, under tools
Go to Settings (for remote manager)
Turn off 'Close on exit'
Set root directory as your external USB drive connected to the OUYA
Exit settings, and turn on WLAN
I then use an Filezilla to transfer all my downloaded files from my Desktop directly to the correct folder locations on the USB drive connected to the OUYA. I get really solid speeds on the transfer between the two devices.
I can then leave the OUYA in XBMC mode, while being able to transfer any downloads very quickly to the USB drive whenever I want.
Note: I found this worked best when OUYA was connected via wi-fi. Ethernet was problematic
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I still prefer ftpdroid cause it launches in the background at startup.
chadley78 said:
I've tried nearly all the set-ups above but the one I find most reliable uses ES File Explorer. No need for root or anything else.
Sideload ES File Explorer
Open ES File Explorer
Go to Remote Manager, under tools
Go to Settings (for remote manager)
Turn off 'Close on exit'
Set root directory as your external USB drive connected to the OUYA
Exit settings, and turn on WLAN
I then use an Filezilla to transfer all my downloaded files from my Desktop directly to the correct folder locations on the USB drive connected to the OUYA. I get really solid speeds on the transfer between the two devices.
I can then leave the OUYA in XBMC mode, while being able to transfer any downloads very quickly to the USB drive whenever I want.
Note: I found this worked best when OUYA was connected via wi-fi. Ethernet was problematic
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I've tried this, but the remote manager keeps closing the connection. i've unchecked the 'close on exit' box, but it still closes after a while.
any ideas on what might be causing this?

Default file location for apps or apk on firestick?

I would like to use rom collection browser with an emulator installed on my firestick using ABDfire but can't find where the emulator is stored on my fire stick in my file manager? Where do apps get stored using ABDfire? Is there a default location?
BeEveready said:
I would like to use rom collection browser with an emulator installed on my firestick using ABDfire but can't find where the emulator is stored on my fire stick in my file manager? Where do apps get stored using ABDfire? Is there a default location?
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Erm I think most stuff gets stored in Android/data (most emulators data just sits in the main part of your storage anyway at Sd card0/ ) & to be honest I do not believe that you can use an emulator with a fire stick, 1. you have no usb, 2. That means no controller & 3. & you cant use an emulator with a amazon remote (well saying that I did test M.A.M.E with one & configured the remote with it turned on it's side & played Streetfighter 2 but that was on the AFTV2 main unit & not the stick version), if you want emulators get the AFTV2 it's on sale at the moment for £65!
Hope this helps If sof press that thanks button
I have the emulator working on the firestick and I'm using an 8bitdo Bluetooth controller that also works however , I would like to access the emulator using rom collection browser in kodi but was having trouble finding the file location. I've looked in the file manager and also es explorer but it doesn't show the apps in the folder you suggested?
deanr1977 said:
Erm I think most stuff gets stored in Android/data (most emulators data just sits in the main part of your storage anyway at Sd card0/ ) & to be honest I do not believe that you can use an emulator with a fire stick, 1. you have no usb, 2. That means no controller & 3. & you cant use an emulator with a amazon remote (well saying that I did test M.A.M.E with one & configured the remote with it turned on it's side & played Streetfighter 2 but that was on the AFTV2 main unit & not the stick version), if you want emulators get the AFTV2 it's on sale at the moment for £65!
Hope this helps If sof press that thanks button
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I have the emulator working on the firestick and I'm using an 8bitdo Bluetooth controller that also works however , I would like to access the emulator using rom collection browser in kodi but was having trouble finding the file location. I've looked in the file manager and also es explorer but it doesn't show the apps in the folder you suggested?
BeEveready said:
I have the emulator working on the firestick and I'm using an 8bitdo Bluetooth controller that also works however , I would like to access the emulator using rom collection browser in kodi but was having trouble finding the file location. I've looked in the file manager and also es explorer but it doesn't show the apps in the folder you suggested?
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Have you selected show hidden in es file explorer ?
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deanr1977 said:
Have you selected show hidden in es file explorer ?
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Yes I have....
BeEveready said:
I would like to use rom collection browser with an emulator installed on my firestick using ABDfire but can't find where the emulator is stored on my fire stick in my file manager? Where do apps get stored using ABDfire? Is there a default location?
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Try looking here-
sdcard0/android/data/org.xbmc.kodi/files/kodi/addons
I'm sure that's the location your looking for
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deanr1977 said:
Try looking here-
sdcard0/android/data/org.xbmc.kodi/files/kodi/addons
I'm sure that's the location your looking for
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Thank you, much appreciated
BeEveready said:
Thank you, much appreciated
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No problem don't forget to press that thanks button if it helped you
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No problem don't forget to press that thanks button if it helped you
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Anybody get this working??
dropbox.com/s/m9sgrqj35dcrvxd/Playstation%20Vue_2.4.0.apk?dl=0
Most recent AFTV APK just updated a few days ago would love to see someone get this working on a NP or Shied or any Android TV
Hi all,
Similar issue, different app. I can't find the data location for apps installed through the app store on the fire stick. Netflix, emby, etc don't show up in the normal location.
I'm special looking for the location that the Smart IPTV app saves it's playlist info. Any help appreciated!!

How to transfer / copy / backup app or game settings between two AFTVs?

I've got a non-rooted AFTV 1 with some games installed. Now I want to upgrade to a (non-rooted) AFTV 2. How can I copy my game settings from my AFTV 1 to the AFTV 2? I've tried whispersync option, but it didn't work for me. I don' want to start every game again from scratch.
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I've got a non-rooted AFTV 1 with some games installed. Now I want to upgrade to a (non-rooted) AFTV 2. How can I copy my game settings from my AFTV 1 to the AFTV 2? I've tried whispersync option, but it didn't work for me. I don' want to start every game again from scratch.
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I think if you go into your file system with something like "File Explorer or Es File Manager on Your AFTV or using ADB or an FTP server on your computer" & goto sdcard0/android/data & find the file there for your game just find the right name or the auther of the game? & copy that into your new AFTV in the same location (sdcard0/android/data) after you have already installed The game on it first though, & just copy/replace the old file. See if this works.... It should do?
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Yes, I've tried that, with ES Explorer as a FTP server (remote manager). But there are no files in /sdcard/android/data/com.ratrodstudio.snowparty2/ for that game. Also i can't find any game settings folder for the game "Xenowerk". Where could that be?
jaydee 77 said:
Yes, I've tried that, with ES Explorer as a FTP server (remote manager). But there are no files in /sdcard/android/data/com.ratrodstudio.snowparty2/ for that game. Also i can't find any game settings folder for the game "Xenowerk". Where could that be?
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With adb try extracting the folders before sdcard0? I'd presume that the file your looking for maybe in system or sys then In the folder app? I'm at work now & not anywhere near a AFTV or a laptop so I can't help anymore than that at the moment
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App manager in settings app shows 5MB of game data, meaning there must be some files. I've searched again on device root, not only on sdcard. Also tried total commander, but could not find any game or app setting files. I'm not familiar with adb. how to extract folders as you mentioned?
jaydee 77 said:
App manager in settings app shows 5MB of game data, meaning there must be some files. I've searched again on device root, not only on sdcard. Also tried total commander, but could not find any game or app setting files. I'm not familiar with adb. how to extract folders as you mentioned?
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Google ADB Fire, add the ip address & then find your device, press connect, then look for the part where it says push & pull, pull from where ever you need then push it back after you done what ever you want to add, when finished disconnect.
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I've think it's useless without root. i've got no access to /root/data/ folder where most app or game settings are stored. this is really pain in the ass for people using a Fire TV for gaming and upgrade their device, lose all game settings. Amazon should provide a cloud storage option to migrate devices.
jaydee 77 said:
I've think it's useless without root. i've got no access to /root/data/ folder where most app or game settings are stored. this is really pain in the ass for people using a Fire TV for gaming and upgrade their device, lose all game settings. Amazon should provide a cloud storage option to migrate devices.
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My fire sticks which are 1st & 2nd Gen are not rooted & I can use ADB Fire with those, I've not been trying to mess with game data but have modded/added & changed a few things?
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When trying to access /root/data/ with ADBFire or TotalCommander, i get an "access denied" message. ES Explorer shows the Bilder AS empty, which isn't the truth. Backup apps i've tried also can't create a backup of the data. You can do a data backup if the app or game use /sdcard/Android/data/ as storage location.
I tried the backup from adb
I connect with adbfire, then run ADB
adb backup -noapk com.ubisoft.rayman.fiestarun
the message in adb tells me to confirm the backup on my device. on my smartphone i got a black screen where I can confirm, decline or can type a password. After confirmation a file backup.ab is created in my adb folder on my client. The smartphone is not rooted and there is no need to do it.
On myaftv1 I never get that black screen where I'm asked to confirm the backup, so it s´doesn't start.
Is there anything I can do, like install some apks?

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