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Loved my S3 but thinking of upgrading

Easy, lightweight, slides right into my pocket, light enough to run wth, fell multiple times without breaking (although against swimming pool cement it did last week after 2.5 years). Need a new phone, I am thinking of the Galaxy S5 active as Ican upgrade on ATT, but I am a little dissappointed by the fact that there doesn't seem to be newer battery technology, and the existing battery technology advanced have been mulled by what I see as increases in hardware and processing power, pixel density that aren't really needed on a mobile device.
What is a good upgrade phone as far as ergonomics, battery life, and original development/replacement battery/memory card from the Galaxy S3?

I am using the ZenFone 2 and so far loving it, great processor, 4gb ram, fast charging and a great price
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I was thinking about upgrading to the nexus 5 or the HTC One M8 (its just so dam beautiful!) Those are phones I would recomend
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jimchee said:
I am using the ZenFone 2 and so far loving it, great processor, 4gb ram, fast charging and a great price
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Is it similar to the GS3 in terms of size and weight? That's what the OP is asking about.
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Is it similar to the GS3 in terms of size and weight? That's what the OP is asking about.
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The Zenfone 2 is bigger than the GS3 at 5.5" screen size, but most phones fall somewhere in the 5 - 5.5" bracket these days unless you're buying the mini variant. The Zenfone 2 is about 30% heavier too, but between the larger form factor and a battery that is about 1/3 larger than the S3 the extra weight is definitely accounted for with features.
I was afraid the Atom processor might hold back the Zenfone 2 development scene, but I just recently read that at least one of the Zenfone 2 variants now has a CM 12.1 alpha. That didn't take long, but time will tell how custom ROMs actually perform on the device vs. stock because we know Asus and Intel will never release the complete x86_64 code. The price point on them is great for the hardware you get. I've been thinking really hard about picking one up myself. However, my old reliable S3 is really still working just fine and running Android 5.1.1 thanks to all the hardworking devs. I just can't convince myself that it is time for a change.
If running a desktop OS on your phone appeals to you, the Intel processor in the Zenfone 2 lends itself pretty well to that apparently. This could be nice trick if you have to interface anything that absolutely requires Micro$oft like corporate/business stuff. If I ever pick one up I might make a run at something like this with a lightweight Linux distro like Porteus.
Very cool phone for the $.

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The Zenfone 2 is bigger than the GS3 at 5.5" screen size, but most phones fall somewhere in the 5 - 5.5" bracket these days unless you're buying the mini variant. The Zenfone 2 is about 30% heavier too, but between the larger form factor and a battery that is about 1/3 larger than the S3 the extra weight is definitely accounted for with features.
I was afraid the Atom processor might hold back the Zenfone 2 development scene, but I just recently read that at least one of the Zenfone 2 variants now has a CM 12.1 alpha. That didn't take long, but time will tell how custom ROMs actually perform on the device vs. stock because we know Asus and Intel will never release the complete x86_64 code. The price point on them is great for the hardware you get. I've been thinking really hard about picking one up myself. However, my old reliable S3 is really still working just fine and running Android 5.1.1 thanks to all the hardworking devs. I just can't convince myself that it is time for a change.
If running a desktop OS on your phone appeals to you, the Intel processor in the Zenfone 2 lends itself pretty well to that apparently. This could be nice trick if you have to interface anything that absolutely requires Micro$oft like corporate/business stuff. If I ever pick one up I might make a run at something like this with a lightweight Linux distro like Porteus.
Very cool phone for the $.
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How about battery life that is the biggest thing for me with the form factor

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How about battery life that is the biggest thing for me with the form factor
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I haven't broke down and bought one yet, so I can't comment. Maybe go ask over in their forum.
I still have my eye on them. The zenfone 2 will probably still be my next purchase unless something more promising comes out between now and then. That's a beast of a phone for $200 - $300.
I'm on AT&T and their phones are a parade of locked down Samsung, LG, and Apple devices, and the AT&T Next thing that they push you towards is really just a payment plan if you do the math. They don't even really subsidize phones anymore. You'll come out way ahead by buying a zenfone 2 or maybe another cheap, used unlocked phone and adding it to their network, and you won't have to deal with their attempts to lock down your device. I'd defect entirely to Straight Talk or some other MVNO, but I haven't convinced the family that it's a good idea just yet.

jason2678 said:
I haven't broke down and bought one yet, so I can't comment. Maybe go ask over in their forum.
I still have my eye on them. The zenfone 2 will probably still be my next purchase unless something more promising comes out between now and then. That's a beast of a phone for $200 - $300.
I'm on AT&T and their phones are a parade of locked down Samsung, LG, and Apple devices, and the AT&T Next thing that they push you towards is really just a payment plan if you do the math. They don't even really subsidize phones anymore. You'll come out way ahead by buying a zenfone 2 or maybe another cheap, used unlocked phone and adding it to their network, and you won't have to deal with their attempts to lock down your device. I'd defect entirely to Straight Talk or some other MVNO, but I haven't convinced the family that it's a good idea just yet.
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Nah it's still pretty subsdizied especially if you can sell the upgraded phone two years down the line.

Hate to say it but a new phone in the same size category will be tough to fill as most screens are pretty large. Closest thing is probably the moto x, but it is older and you sacrifice removable battery. The LG G3 and G4 sorry removable batteries and had memory expansion but they are considerably larger.

jimchee said:
I am using the ZenFone 2 and so far loving it, great processor, 4gb ram, fast charging and a great price
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Friend sold me his gs3 and he got a zenfone 2..he loves it.

Zenfone 2 or Zenfone 2 Laser....

...that is the question.
The ZF2 has devflow poppin' while the ZF2L seems....stagnant?..?.?.. Maybe, I'm wrong, and development is just slow going atm, but I'm hesitant to pull the trigger. I'm coming from a Samsung Galaxy S4, so I'm spoiled on choice. There wasn't anything that couldn't be done on that phone....
Anyway, I was hoping to hear from you ZF2 users about whether or not you think the ZF2L is worth the gamble over the ZF2.

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...that is the question.
The ZF2 has devflow poppin' while the ZF2L seems....stagnant?..?.?.. Maybe, I'm wrong, and development is just slow going atm, but I'm hesitant to pull the trigger. I'm coming from a Samsung Galaxy S4, so I'm spoiled on choice. There wasn't anything that couldn't be done on that phone....
Anyway, I was hoping to hear from you ZF2 users about whether or not you think the ZF2L is worth the gamble over the ZF2.
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I came from the S5 to the ZF2 and I love it. It is an amazing phone, with lots of potential. The only difference between the 2 device that I know is the specs. The ZF2 has a little more going for it than the laser. And do to is just coming out the ZF2L development will be slow until there is more of request and crowd wanting it.
But I do recommend getting the ZF2 4 gig version. Hope I was helpful

I am coming from a Nexus 6 and bit the bullet on a 4GB ZF2 today. I got all the accessories I could and paid $360. (Headphone, anti-scratch screen protector, and black case). I watched every major review I could and honestly it only made me want it more. I might do blisspop moment I get it since I love vanilla android with good specs.

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I am coming from a Nexus 6 and bit the bullet on a 4GB ZF2 today. I got all the accessories I could and paid $360. (Headphone, anti-scratch screen protector, and black case). I watched every major review I could and honestly it only made me want it more. I might do blisspop moment I get it since I love vanilla android with good specs.
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Could you point me to which one you bought? The lineup seems confusing with the Zenfone2. Some with intel while some others with qualcomm.
Any pros and cons of them? Which one has more stable custom roms available here?

gcretro said:
Could you point me to which one you bought? The lineup seems confusing with the Zenfone2. Some with intel while some others with qualcomm.
Any pros and cons of them? Which one has more stable custom roms available here?
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Here is the one I purchased. https://www.asus.com/us/Phone/ZenFone_2_ZE551ML/
I purchased the 2.3GHz with 4GB DDR3 ram. Only true overcome between this and the laser is one uses the intel chip (zenfone 2) and laser uses qualcomm. One has 4GB of ram and the other 3gb. Stable roms? I saw the ZF2 had more of a movement than laser. I watched review after review video before buying.

Is OnePlus one old enough to upgrade to Oneplus three ?

Is it worth it ?
what about custom roms ?

Customs will be, for now I'm not planning to change my opo to newest op3 because it works well and have good support in custom roms, if i damage it or smthing then only one option nothing more- op3

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Is it worth it ?
what about custom roms ?
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Grab this oneplus 3 for the specs and build quality. Im still using oneplus one

I think I will also move to the 3 from the 1.
I hope it has good development like the 1.

My opo is 1.5 yr old. Still in mint condition but I might update to op3 in 3 months or so.

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I think I will also move to the 3 from the 1.
I hope it has good development like the 1.
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since they released source code, i hope that development will be on par with 1+1, maybe better
since the device has great stable ground in terms of specs for development

Oneplus one uses a snapdragon 801 and three uses 820
There's generations of difference in processor and processing power, if it doesn't matter then you can choose the OPO but others than SD801 might fare better

It's all about you OnePlus 1 will be used for long time , since has a development comparable to nexus. But OP3 is a pretty nice upgrade. Maybe wait for some users experiences..

Had my oneplus one for 2 years now and just wanted an upgrade. Was going to wait for the next Nexus but I just couldn't resist. Impressed that oneplus have released source code already and with the price I expect many developers will pick one up.

It's up to you. Oneplus One i still very fast device, 3 GB RAM is more than you need in clear android. You can upgrade if you really need better camera, i dont see other reason to "upgrade".

I'm very happy with my opo.. It has a few scrtaches and such but it handles everything I throw at him with a glance and also development is still great. I'll buy a new phone only when development for opo suddenly stops, my battery will die or I'll brake it. Only weakness is the camera in my mind because I have some dust on the lens and it doesnť perform very well anymore.

This is a question only one person can answer. Yourself. Every one had different reasons why they would consider an upgrade. It is very hard to upgrade from the opo. I'm keeping mine as a spare, but I want to get onboard the 64 bit train, and the op3 is the way to do it. Leaps and bounds a much better upgrade than the op2. I couldn't justify that purchase, but for this one, it was an easy choice.
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Nope, unless you`re OPO doesn`t have NFC, the SD820 cpu or a fingerprint scanner just to name some upgrades

I still use and love my OPO, but it is time for me... OP3 is on the way!

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since they released source code, i hope that development will be on par with 1+1, maybe better
since the device has great stable ground in terms of specs for development
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In fact, 2 ROM are out for it already. This will be a very popular phone like the OPO, I think.
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I'm very happy with my opo.. It has a few scrtaches and such but it handles everything I throw at him with a glance and also development is still great. I'll buy a new phone only when development for opo suddenly stops, my battery will die or I'll brake it. Only weakness is the camera in my mind because I have some dust on the lens and it doesnť perform very well anymore.
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If you are waiting for the development to stop on the OPO, then you will wait for many years, I believe. OPO is as popular as the nexus series in the development world. From the number of custom ROMS available for the OPO, I believe at least 2 ROM will be available for at least 3 more years.

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In fact, 2 ROM are out for it already. This will be a very popular phone like the OPO, I think.
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If you are waiting for the development to stop on the OPO, then you will wait for many years, I believe. OPO is as popular as the nexus series in the development world. From the number of custom ROMS available for the OPO, I believe at least 2 ROM will be available for at least 3 more years.
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totally agree. Since oneplus released their source codes op3 will be next nexus either much like op1. As for opo there never be a phone like it. It has three official roms (CM, OOS and ColorOS) and many more unofficial including ubuntu, jolla and I surely forget many more.
I gues I'll just wait couple of months to see how op3 stands and to see what next nexus will bring on the table. anyway buying one of those couldn't be a mistake..:good:

Still using opo 64gb sandstone now.
I know your guys love or this amazing devices. Op2,s6 ,Note 5. S7e, even nexus 6p, bought then sold. I really love this handset. it have nothing cool hardware nowaday. But the fun i had with custom roms, tweaks is limitless.
My op3 will arrived next week. Hope it could suprise me.

Should I wait for Zenfone 6 or buy OnePlus 7 Pro?

I use a Mate 9, almost 3 years old, slight screen crack and failing battery, running omnirom for past 18 months. I don't game. I really like Z6's giant battery, headphone jack, microSD. I don't really care about the super smooth 1P7P screen -- mostly I read, write and research on a phone. But I tend to be very particular about UI and I abhored EMUI, especially v8, which stopped apps I wanted to run and prevented Nova launcher from working properly. So I value and use an active dev community and 1+ probably has the best. (I'd but another Huawei if they still issued bootloader unlock codes and encouraged developers.). So as experienced Zenfone users, what are your thoughts? The 5Z seems super easy to unlock -- no code needed. Why aren't there more ROMs, especially since commentary suggests that zenUI isn't loved?

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I use a Mate 9, almost 3 years old, slight screen crack and failing battery, running omnirom for past 18 months. I don't game. I really like Z6's giant battery, headphone jack, microSD. I don't really care about the super smooth 1P7P screen -- mostly I read, write and research on a phone. But I tend to be very particular about UI and I abhored EMUI, especially v8, which stopped apps I wanted to run and prevented Nova launcher from working properly. So I value and use an active dev community and 1+ probably has the best. (I'd but another Huawei if they still issued bootloader unlock codes and encouraged developers.). So as experienced Zenfone users, what are your thoughts? The 5Z seems super easy to unlock -- no code needed. Why aren't there more ROMs, especially since commentary suggests that zenUI isn't loved?
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Well. As you already know, ZenUI 6.0 has been launched along with Z6, which is just vanilla android with Asus's additional features. According to me, you should wait for Z6 for the following reasons:
1. 1+7 Pro's screen looks gorgeous, but it is very very prone to damage, also Z6s LCD supports 100% of Color Gamut.
2. 1+s battery is just sub standard, yes they give Warp Charging, but as it is rightly said, they are just killing the anxiety, actual productivity is to actually have a large battery. Also, Z6 comes with Qualcomm QuickCharge 4.0
3. Z6s 5000 mAH battery coupled with SD855 will give a stellar SOT.
4. 1+ may have the Sony IMX 586 at rear, but its front camera is average at best. On the other hand, in Z6 you get the exact same high end camera for both rear and front camera photography.
5. And finally, there is a chance that ZenUI 6 is better than OOS. Also, Z6 is included in the Q beta program and ZenUI 6 is as stock as possible, so you can expect very quick updates. Also, Asus has guaranteed Android R update as well.

I drop my phone a lot. The Spigen case has been great at protecting it, but the glass back is a defect to me, too. I would like the telephoto on the 7P though.

both are preety good. But both comes under diffrent costing.
If money is not the issue for you and you want hdr 10 amoled display and be ok with no expandable storage and 4000 mah battry you can buy one plus 7 pro.
But if you can be ok with slighlty lesser display quality and can be ok with the lcd can offer. And you want 5000 mah battery, with new camera technology. And you wana save money by huge amount or you are set on bugget wait for zenfone 6. Its gona be a great device.
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I drop my phone a lot. The Spigen case has been great at protecting it, but the glass back is a defect to me, too. I would like the telephoto on the 7P though.
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one plus has cornning gorilla v 5 zenfone has v6
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Pretty much I prefer the specs of the Z6. But what about the dev community? Why, when three Z5 is so easy to unlock and root, are there so few ROMs? The Huawei's have more and they went totally hostile to devs.
One other problem: GSMArena is reporting that the Z6 does not include Band 71, T-Mobile's 600MHz band, which is increasingly important for T-Mo customers, although not deployed yet where I live. Where deployed, it is pretty uncongested, which makes it desirable for me.

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Pretty much I prefer the specs of the Z6. But what about the dev community? Why, when three Z5 is so easy to unlock and root, are there so few ROMs? The Huawei's have more and they went totally hostile to devs.
One other problem: GSMArena is reporting that the Z6 does not include Band 71, T-Mobile's 600MHz band, which is increasingly important for T-Mo customers, although not deployed yet where I live. Where deployed, it is pretty uncongested, which makes it desirable for me.
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unlocking zenfone 5z is daam easy on the other hand rooting it is a very long procedure.
Well i am not so sure about dev community.
since zenfone max pro series is google stock rom it has preety decent development. On the other hand well all i can say is you can expect 1 or 2 development programs for sure. But don't expect any more further development.
Most of the developers will focus on one plus 7 nd pro, upcoming xiaomi POCOFONE F2, and other devices with stock google rom.
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Taking a look at the 5Z Dev Forum... That looks kinda disapointing.
i was looking for a bit more development than my Sony Xperia XZ2.
Coming from the Old Sonys and the HTC10 which had a fairly big Custom Rom Community i'm somewhat disapointed. And going for a Pixel or OnePlus without a MicroSD slot is not an option.

I think the whole world of phone enthusiasts will be watching the dev section of Z6. Hope that terminations ZL XL KL, etc, or whatever they call it, doesn't make a different phone such as with Samsung, LG phones, thus making development much more difficult and restrictive for some.
For the price they ask, it's a good choice, negatives would be lack of telephoto and IR blaster, but we can live without them for sure.
I kinda hope that the community will grow, as I would like to change my LeMax2.

i would say the Z6 is way better bang for the buck compared to the oneplus. I will see once its on store shelves before buying though. Huawei seem to be in a lot of trouble right now with google actually pulling its services for their devices, updates and play store access, will keep an eye on that.

Yeah the only thing stopping me from buying z6 is the custom rom development

I'm pretty sure with ASUS' shift towards AOSP, development efforts will be far greater for the 6 than the 5z.
I'm just hoping they release a big screen version that's a true successor to their old phablets. A 16:9 or 16:10 7-8" device would be awesome.
Pleaseeee ASUS.

Also I'm not sure why XDA haven't added a Zenfone 6 forum ...

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Also I'm not sure why XDA haven't added a Zenfone 6 forum ...
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Having the same question...
Edit: Source code and bootloader unlock tool are available. Fingers crossed for some heavy development https://www.asus.com/Phone/ZenFone-6-ZS630KL/HelpDesk_Download/
Edit2: They've created a forum for it

Zenfone seems like the better phone bigger battery
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It's not about the money.
I am was a OnePlus user until OnePlus 5T. But later I realised OnePlus has forgot its core values. I don't mean that OnePlus devices aren't good. They are best . But Asus Is implementing the same strategy OnePlus used years ago. Great Devices with Low Cost Value . Asus devices aren't either bad. They are best as per the cost. Quality & Cost is Balanced you know what I mean. It's just about Premium & Budget. Both the devices are great with there own unique way. I love both the companies Asus at priority & OnePlus at Satisfaction.
prestonmcafee said:
I use a Mate 9, almost 3 years old, slight screen crack and failing battery, running omnirom for past 18 months. I don't game. I really like Z6's giant battery, headphone jack, microSD. I don't really care about the super smooth 1P7P screen -- mostly I read, write and research on a phone. But I tend to be very particular about UI and I abhored EMUI, especially v8, which stopped apps I wanted to run and prevented Nova launcher from working properly. So I value and use an active dev community and 1+ probably has the best. (I'd but another Huawei if they still issued bootloader unlock codes and encouraged developers.). So as experienced Zenfone users, what are your thoughts? The 5Z seems super easy to unlock -- no code needed. Why aren't there more ROMs, especially since commentary suggests that zenUI isn't loved?
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Get a Redmi K20 Pro

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Get a Redmi K20 Pro
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The best answer here.

Think twice before going for Asus zenfone 6
Trust me you don't wanna spend your life waiting for a official ROM to arrive. The cheaper doesn't always mean compromise, after using Zuk Z2 plus for 2 years, still i feel much happier using Zuk Z2, am running official lineage os and twrp was available from day 1. Anyways I learnt it the hard way that Asus is pretty cheap, they earn a huge profit by selling your privacy. Won't do mistake again, Privacy is more important than specs anyday, hands down to Zenfone6. People may take price of OP7 as granted but OP7 will be 20 times more successful and loved and supported in XDA.

This phone vs Asus ROG Phone 2

What do you guys think? I am leaning towards ROG Phone 2

ROG Phone 2 is missing some LTE bands. Check it out before you decide.

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ROG Phone 2 is missing some LTE bands. Check it out before you decide.
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I don't mind missing VoLTE mad WiFi calling .. I am just excited about that 120hz display and that battery

90hz /120hz
Only a hand full of games support either.
The battery is a big difference and the triggers.
That being said the camera on the OnePlus will make the rog look awful.

I'm conflicted as well. Here in India both of them(8gb ram+128gb rom) cost the same (Rs 38,000~$530). Rog 2 has a 120hz panel, a bigger battery, THE HEADPHONE JACK, a dedicated cooling system while the op7t has a better camera and community/dev support. I'm hella confused rn :/

dladz said:
90hz /120hz
Only a hand full of games support either.
The battery is a big difference and the triggers.
That being said the camera on the OnePlus will make the rog look awful.
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I don't think camera on ROG is that bad compared to OnePlus

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I'm conflicted as well. Here in India both of them(8gb ram+128gb rom) cost the same (Rs 38,000~$530). Rog 2 has a 120hz panel, a bigger battery, THE HEADPHONE JACK, a dedicated cooling system while the op7t has a better camera and community/dev support. I'm hella confused rn :/
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This is the same thought I have. I'm pretty sure that the ROG won't get any dev support unless a lot of development interested guys opt for ROG instead of 7T since they've same price. At the same time, even OnePlus phones had great development support, the 7 is still very far behind any OnePlus phone. Also for last few years I don't have any interest in gaming. The only high-end game I was interested in those times was Asphalt. That's why I'm thinking why should I go for a game-centric phone.
Also in the upcoming Amazon sale the price of 7 Pro is 44,999 for 6GB version. If it is able to add another discount with SBI card it can be grabbed for 42,999. But I don't like the curved screen, also not sure about reliability of front camera sliding. As you said too much confusion. :/

Same Confusion
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This is the same thought I have. I'm pretty sure that the ROG won't get any dev support unless a lot of development interested guys opt for ROG instead of 7T since they've same price. At the same time, even OnePlus phones had great development support, the 7 is still very far behind any OnePlus phone. Also for last few years I don't have any interest in gaming. The only high-end game I was interested in those times was Asphalt. That's why I'm thinking why should I go for a game-centric phone.
Also in the upcoming Amazon sale the price of 7 Pro is 44,999 for 6GB version. If it is able to add another discount with SBI card it can be grabbed for 42,999. But I don't like the curved screen, also not sure about reliability of front camera sliding. As you said too much confusion. :/
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Same confusion here.
I really like both the phones but feel that ROG II is a lot better on paper than the 7T, and since the price is the same, why not buy it. But 2 concerns make me want to buy the 7T over ROG II. Those are:
1. Overall UI experience (7T has to be definitely better, I assume, since they've placed extra effort on Design and the smoothness as overall, and also maybe because ROG II has just stock Android 9 UI [from ZenFone 6z] without any optimization)
2. Custom Dev support (which am pretty sure is where 7T will shine, but for now am less concerned about it because of HDR and any other such features that will be rendered useless once the phone is bootloader-unlocked)
3. After-Sales Service (again OnePlus might be a definite win, but only because I don't know of the current situation with the ASUS after-sales service, if someone can enlighten me, please!!)
But there are more reasons to buy ROG Phone II over 7T:
1. 120Hz Display w/240Hz Touch Response (although some user was reporting that he/she was able to see some flickering or graininess with the 120Hz RR, none of the Youtubers reviews mentioned any such thing so might be a false-positive, MKBHD though pointed out that the screen would light up a bit when trying to fingerprint unlock)
2. Headphone jack w/Hi-Res Audio output
3. Front-facing dual speaker with the NXP Amplifiers (They are really good from all the reviews that I've watched)
4. 6000mAh battery (just massive and a kind of a must nowadays, I like that they didn't try to compromise at all)
I have been into Android Rooting etc. ever since I got my Xperia U (my 1st ever Android phone) and have been into it till now. Earlier I would just get my new phone, dig into XDA forums and start following the bootloader unlocking process and rooting my phone if it was available. Heck, I rooted my HTC One M8 and OnePlus 3T on day 1/2.
Please provide some inputs if anybody has any recent experience with Asus Mobile Service Centres

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I don't think camera on ROG is that bad compared to OnePlus
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It's adequate but not close to comparable mate.

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It's adequate but not close to comparable mate.
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Let's wait for stable GCam on both. GCam will change everything

When an update from Asus comes, it resolves 5 and adds 6 issues.
#Fact
#Livedit

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Let's wait for stable GCam on both. GCam will change everything
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Gcam can be tweaked to perfection, but it's not a simple task mate, the drivers, hardware limitations, theres so much that can go wrong and only a handful of people who know their stuff.
Has Asus released all the code for the ROG?
have only owned the Asus prime and that was a biblical pain in the backside to work with, had some help from a talented guy over there though but I got lucky.
I'm not bashing the ROG either, I think it's a bold move and one that I really want to work, I think we're at a point now where CPU /GPU combinations have got so much grunt it's crazy, so many pc games would run on the ROG 1 never mind the ROG 2.
How's the TV out on it? Any latency issues? Can it output at 90hz/120hz?
I think that would be impressive.
You should try my pc gaming on android guide, I think you'd love it. Plus you'd be getting the maximum refresh rate.
I wrote guides for playing 3 classic actual of games locally on android. I'd be interested to see what they run like, the OnePlus 5 could run them perfectly, even with TV out via displaylink.
I'll see if I can find the link, the guys on xda did an article about it.
Games are
Quake 3 arena (works online too)
Return to castle Wolfenstein (not sure about online)
Doom 3 (not sure about online, but I doubt anyone plays it anymore)
Don't need to be rooted either iirc.

dladz said:
Gcam can be tweaked to perfection, but it's not a simple task mate, the drivers, hardware limitations, theres so much that can go wrong and only a handful of people who know their stuff.
Has Asus released all the code for the ROG?
have only owned the Asus prime and that was a biblical pain in the backside to work with, had some help from a talented guy over there though but I got lucky.
I'm not bashing the ROG either, I think it's a bold move and one that I really want to work, I think we're at a point now where CPU /GPU combinations have got so much grunt it's crazy, so many pc games would run on the ROG 1 never mind the ROG 2.
How's the TV out on it? Any latency issues? Can it output at 90hz/120hz?
I think that would be impressive.
You should try my pc gaming on android guide, I think you'd love it. Plus you'd be getting the maximum refresh rate.
I wrote guides for playing 3 classic actual of games locally on android. I'd be interested to see what they run like, the OnePlus 5 could run them perfectly, even with TV out via displaylink.
I'll see if I can find the link, the guys on xda did an article about it.
Games are
Quake 3 arena (works online too)
Return to castle Wolfenstein (not sure about online)
Doom 3 (not sure about online, but I doubt anyone plays it anymore)
Don't need to be rooted either iirc.
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If you could link me to that guide, will be happy to check. I don't have TV and Cables etc. here right now so that's not possible.

If someone is really interested in gaming and undying battery back up he should have no 2nd thought about going with rog 2. I am oneplus fan but i miss two things in my op7t that rog 2 has, 6000 mah battery and headphone jack, specially the bigger battery.

Mayank7795 said:
If you could link me to that guide, will be happy to check. I don't have TV and Cables etc. here right now so that's not possible.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/themes/playing-3-classic-fps-pc-games-htc-10-t3606762
Here u go mate.
Lol this was the HTC 10 so it's been a while.
I think once you get one of these up and running you'll want to experiment with keyboard and mouse especially for the likes of quake arena as you'll be getting dragged quite a lot