[Q] Booting to Bootloader on its own... - Moto 360

I purchased a 360 from Best Buy less than a month ago. I updated it to 5.0.1 right out of the box. It has been doing great until 2 days ago. I came home put on the watch. It booted up and was working fine. 30 - 45 min later the screen won't turn on. I thought it just froze so I held the power button for 30sec. Nothing. I tried throwing it on the charger even though it was at 80% last I looked at it. Neither the charging icon or the clock came on the screen while on the charger. I let it sit for awhile anyways. It never did anything even though the charge light came on on the charger. After letting it sit on the charger for 1 1/2 hours I removed to try powering it on. Nothing. I decided to leave it alone for awhile and the next thing I notice is that it is sitting at the bootloader. That is all it would do and only after pulling it off the charger. So today I left the watch on at the bootloader until it died. I put it on the charger and the charging icon appeared on the screen. The watch booted and showed the clock. Once it reached 50% i decided to do a reset just to see if it would fix whatever bug was affecting it. After rebooting I was prompted that I had the 5.0.2 update waiting for me. I charged it to 100%. I ran the update thinking if I am having a software issue, an update would definitely help. I ran the update and it rebooted. Everything seemed to be working fine. I setup it up and strapped it on my wrist. I go to turn on the screen and it wont turn on again. The watch battery was at 96%. I put it on the charger for 30min. When I pulled it off the charger it booted to the bootloader yet again... Is there a fix anyone knows of or do I have a hardware issue?

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I might have killed my Battery (FIXED...for now)

Hey Guys,
I am running the Cell Pro 9.5 ROM and since yesterday my phone doesnt turn on.
So this is what happened, I never got a chance to recharge my phone yesterday and so I used it to the very last bit of juice. The phone kept switching itself off with the critical level battery warning and I kept turning it back on. So it got to a point where it wasn't switching on at all. So I pluged in the phone to the computer to charge and left it there for approximately an hour (the orange charging light was on), came back and tried to switch the phone back on and it didnt respond at all. Took out the battery, tried the soft reset button etc and everything else I thought of with no luck. So I plugged it back on and suddently it turned back on, did the boot up, loaded the touchflo and I saw the battery level was at "0" and then suddenly it turned of with a "tuck" sound (similar to a PC when you hold down the power button or turn the power off without shutting down). This has been repeating since then, I have left it plugged in and every 5-10 minutes or so the phone switches on by itself and shows the boot screen, go all the way till HTC animation and powers off suddenly. I have had no luck in turning the phone back on, I dont what is causing the issue - wether its the battery or the phone.
Please give me your thoughts....I am completely lost without my phone...
- issue was that the phone kept restarting as soon as the battery stored enough charge for a reboot. I pulled out the battery at one of the restart cycle as advised below and stopped it from repeating it. After that the phone let the battery charge without a restart, did not mess with it for a long while.
Never let the battery drain all the way down to 0%. Not sure if it affects the battery, but it sure will give you enough hassle that you wont repeat it.
DesperateScorpion151 said:
Hey Guys,
I am running the Cell Pro 9.5 ROM and since yesterday my phone doesnt turn on.
So this is what happened, I never got a chance to recharge my phone yesterday and so I used it to the very last bit of juice. The phone kept switching itself off with the critical level battery warning and I kept turning it back on. So it got to a point where it wasn't switching on at all. So I pluged in the phone to the computer to charge and left it there for approximately an hour (the orange charging light was on), came back and tried to switch the phone back on and it didnt respond at all. Took out the battery, tried the soft reset button etc and everything else I thought of with no luck. So I plugged it back on and suddently it turned back on, did the boot up, loaded the touchflo and I saw the battery level was at "0" and then suddenly it turned of with a "tuck" sound (similar to a PC when you hold down the power button or turn the power off without shutting down). This has been repeating since then, I have left it plugged in and every 5-10 minutes or so the phone switches on by itself and shows the boot screen, go all the way till HTC animation and powers off suddenly. I have had no luck in turning the phone back on, I dont what is causing the issue - wether its the battery or the phone.
Please give me your thoughts....I am completely lost without my phone...
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The same thing happened to me last night... but mine works now. what I thought it was is that it kept turning on as soon as it had enough battery to do so then it would die and repeat... So every time it would turn on
I would take the battery out and let it charge some more and then when it quit turning back on I left it overnight and now its on...
msn.debord said:
The same thing happened to me last night... but mine works now. what I thought it was is that it kept turning on as soon as it had enough battery to do so then it would die and repeat... So every time it would turn on
I would take the battery out and let it charge some more and then when it quit turning back on I left it overnight and now its on...
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Ok....I will try that and report back....
Sorry you pull the battery then the cord then put the battery back in then cord. Also it will take a lot longer if you charge it on the computer.
Never mind mine quit working again...
msn.debord said:
Never mind mine quit working again...
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I managed to get it charging after pulling out the battery and putting it back again. Charged it through a computer cause i dont have my charger with me.
I turned it on and the battery said 40% and now every second or so it is dropping by 1%. I can literally watch it dropping down sitting here. The phone doesnt want to charge when it is on. I plug in the usb and the LED turns orange and then turns off. Now the battery is at 25%, This is litterally in about a minute or less. I dont know whats wrong, is it the Battery?
I had this exact same thing happen to me twice on previous HTC hardware (wizard). The first time I couldn't save it and just had to buy a new battery. However, the second time it happened I was able to resurrect it once I got it plugged into a higher-current charging source, like the wall charger it came with, or even most car chargers (that's how I saved it when I couldn't get to my wall charger). I had to let it sit on there for about an hour before it held enough charge to stay on, and another 2 hours before it was fully charged, but it worked just fine after that.
You battery may indeed be toast from what you describe. I have had the experience of totally discharging the battery and the device not coming on at all. I recommend that if you do this, you should fully charge it using the wall charger NOT the computer (if the computer works at all. it didnt in my case). I have done this a few times now and the battery turned out fine each time.
jmmmmm said:
You battery may indeed be toast from what you describe. I have had the experience of totally discharging the battery and the device not coming on at all. I recommend that if you do this, you should fully charge it using the wall charger NOT the computer (if the computer works at all. it didnt in my case). I have done this a few times now and the battery turned out fine each time.
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Thanks.....
My issue seamed to be fixed. I had to rely on a computer as I didnt have access to my charger and by the time I did my phone was at approximately 65% charge. I plugged it in and charged it all the way to 100%. Replugged it and left it for a little more while to make sure it got charged completely. I have been using it since today morning 9am and now it is 2pm at 73% after couple of calls, messages and emails.
Few more charging cycles with the wall charger and I am hoping it will be back to normal.

[Q] Charging issue that defies common sense...

I searched here and google and found various charging issues but none quite like what I am seeing. The night before last, I plugged my A100 in before bed like I normally do and saw the power light turn orange. In the morning, I unplugged it without even looking at the LED because I just expected it to have charged completely. When I got to my car and turned it on, it was at 32%. I thought maybe I had something running that was eating battery or I didn't plug it in all the way overnight so it didn't charge. I plugged it into the car charger and went to work. When I got to work it was still at 32% but I didn't use it the whole time so I thought that was odd. I pretty much didn't use it the whole day since I knew it was low on power and I didn't have a charger at work. I got home and saw that it was at 28% so I plugged it in. About an hour later, I checked and it was still at 28%. Thinking that was odd, I turned it off and left it charging with it off for an hour. Turned it back on an hour later and still at 28%. I spent a little time using it while plugged in trying to kill off apps and things but it drained to 18% even though it was plugged in, the power LED showed orange, and the battery icon on screen showed charging (lighting bolt). At this point I started to worry that something was seriously wrong. I turned it *off* and left it plugged in all night after checking to make sure the LED was orange. In the morning, the LED had turned off completely (not blue or orange). I turned it on and saw that it was still at 18% even after charging all night turned off. I unplugged and replugged and the LED came on orange again.
So here is where it gets really strange.. I decide to go through RMA process since I'm still under warranty. I don't want my private data on it when sending it to them so I do a wipe. On a whim, I plug it back in after the wipe and guess what? It's charging! What the heck?!?! I had thought maybe I installed something that was causing problems but since it wasn't charging even when turned off, I figured it couldn't be an app. Can an application cause the device not to charge even in the off state? I thought maybe my battery stats had gotten corrupted so the percentage readout wasn't accurate but right after wiping the data, the battery was reading 18% just as before the wipe.
Any thoughts? Anyone ever see anything similar? My gut says to RMA it still.
Reboot the device.
It's a bug that happened to me on Honeycomb all the time with A100. (No longer happens on ICS)
Did you actually read the OP?
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Yes, multiple reboots didn't help. No charging even when off. Started charging after wipe. Very odd.
So, after my wipe, I set out to see if I could get it to fail again. I loaded a couple of apps that I had loaded a couple of days before this happened and it stopped charging again. Unloaded each of those apps and still no charging. Did another wipe and still no charging. Conclusion is it's busted and just randomly charges on occasion. Sending it in for RMA today. Still very odd that it was reliably charging after that first wipe.
I myself am experiencing exactally the same problem. Any fix found?
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Similar thing happened to me. The only thing is I didn't realize it wasn't charging until it was too late and the battery was at 5%. After it shut off, the only way i could get it to turn on was by holding down the power button and plugging in the charger. It didn't get to try a data wipe (didn't have enough time lol). I sent it back and they replaced the system board. Said it was not recognizing the battery properly.
I own two tabs, and one had this issue, the fix is actually quite simple. Let the tab die. No battery life at all. Then, when your sure its dead, plug it back in, and let it charge to full. I haven't had the issue on the tab since.
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Ciao. Same problem: my a100 only power on when plugged on charger.
i'm using a cooked ics with ulocked bootloader and i tried wipe, new installation, varius reboot, etc... and nothing heeelp!
thnx
flskio said:
Ciao. Same problem: my a100 only power on when plugged on charger.
i'm using a cooked ics with ulocked bootloader and i tried wipe, new installation, varius reboot, etc... and nothing heeelp!
thnx
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Blow in the charge hole (in the tab) and try again, i had a similar problem, my charge was stuck into 3%, i tried that and worked for me : )
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luisxd said:
Blow in the charge hole (in the tab) and try again, i had a similar problem, my charge was stuck into 3%, i tried that and worked for me : )
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my charge is on 3% too, but no good luck for me. seems a most serius problem
thanks.
any news guys? I bought a old ACER A100 and only power on while it plug in, so I went ahead and changed the battary, it still does not get charge.
Is the happening on complete stock? Or a custom ROM, if so, which one.
Also, reflash said ROM if applicable, and make sure the data is wiped.
I like the drain the battery idea, although its risky, these tabs can brick if it gets below 10%, current/voltage act weird when its low and blow a breaker inside and keep it from turning on.
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What percent does it show the battery at while it's on?
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My tab has the charging issue, but it is self inflicted. It was dropped, which cracked the lcd screen. I ordered one after a week or so and replaced it. At this point is when the charging issue cropped up. It powers on only if plugged in, and will get to 3% charge no matter how long it is plugged in. It will also only show the 3% if the charger is unplugged. It will then run for a few minutes until the battery dies. Also, the orange charge blinks about one minute after the charger is plugged in.
I found a reference on the web that if the battery charge gets too low the A100 can't charge it. I also found references that people had this problem, and Acer replaced the mb. I took a shot on the battery since it was a lot cheaper. Still the same. That doesn't the battery was not the issue since it was an ebay battery. So for now I just use it in the living room, plugged into outlet. Works good for that.
Jim
Ha! Found my own post by doing google query. Wow, didn't know this thread was still somewhat alive. So, I sent mine back as I mentioned in my last post back in February and they took a week and sent it back to me completely untouched. Basically said it was fixed but the same problem existed. I sent it in after a wipe but I did configure my wifi access point before I sent. When I got it back, my access point connected immediately and it still would not charge. I called them right back furious and demanded they provide shipping back to them because they clearly did nothing. They finally agreed and I shipped it back. After another two weeks of transit and repair time, I got my tablet back and this time it appeared to be fixed.
So, flash forward to 3 weeks ago. One morning I woke up and the tablet wouldn't power on. Black screen but the home "button" would light up when touched and power button would light up when plugged in and such. After several attempts to reset by holding down power button and using the recessed reset button, it was still not responsive. Tried up volume (and down volume) while powering pressing power button.. tried holding down reset button while pressing power button.. all with no result. Submitted rma request and was immediately granted without review. Sent it in and after about two weeks, got it back and it appeared to be working fine. Just this past weekend (about a week after I got the tablet back), I noticed that it was 3% after sitting on the charger for 2 days straight over thanksgiving. ARG!! Looks like another round of RMA here. I have not tried wiping but last time the charging issue happened, it was intermittent for about 2-3 weeks getting worse and worse before finally never charging. I am now near the end of my warranty period and I worry that if I send it back now, they will just turn it around and say it started charging after a wipe. What a piece of ... this is? This will be the 4th times in one year of ownership. I've almost spent the difference in cost between this tablet and other more expensive options in time and shipping alone.
I will try wiping it and then running it all the way down. Although I almost want it to fail hard right now so I can get it RMA'd before my warranty is up.

[Q] What happened?

I had charged my G pad (LG version - 2 months old - stock)last night, used it briefly in the morning and put it to sleep -knock, knock, put it in its case (my knitted case) and put it away.
Tonight I take it out and it's warm at the top. It won't respond to the knock knock to turn on. I tried the power button - no response. I tried the power button numerous times - nothing. I plug it in and try the power button again - nothing. Finally the power button works and it boots up. The battery is at 90% charge.
So what the hell happened here? Any ideas???
No idea. Sounds like some app that was running hung it up. I know not everybody does this, but I always shut mine down completely while charging overnight. I think that charging while it's shut down will make the battery last longer. Plus, it stops any processes which are running, so you start out clean the next day.
Does sound like an app stayed on. I clear the RAM every time before i put it away, i don't turn it off though
I did not turn it off before I put it away -just let it sleep. In fact, I think I have turned it off maybe once since I've had it (2months). The strange thing is it was very warm yet it was off when I retrieved it from it's case .
I've read concerning my other tablet (Toshiba Thrive) that you should not charge it when it's off. I never do. I charged it when it was sleeping.
Did you charge it through your PC or in a wall electrical-plug? Did you install a new app before that or that day? Check your USB wire-cable if there is a snap on it by putting it in your tab and slowly stretching it inch by inch through your fingers if it will give a plugin or plug-out sign. And last, try your power supply plug on another device to see if its default and needs changing. To me all this is electrical related as you refer to extend temperature on the tab after power supply. There is a slight possibility of a false battery and then you take it back for service or replace.
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Charged from wall electrical plug. No new apps added that day. After charging I used it for maybe 30 min in the morning and it was fine before putting it away for the day. The problem happened when I took it out of the case (my knitted case) at night and it (the top specifically) was warm yet it was off (not just sleeping) and I had trouble booting it up.
Since then it has been fine. Have charged it several times - no problem. Have put it away and taken it out several times and everything is normal.

New Moto 360 Only Charges When Powered Off

Weird defect. Anyone else have this problem?
Edit: as of now it won't charge at all
Edit 2: After a lot of fiddling around, it decided to charge. Working great except for a single dead pixel Got to exchange it on the 9th or whenever they get their shipment in.
Mine charges while powered on.
holabola said:
Weird defect. Anyone else have this problem?
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Mine charges while on and off. What I did notice, is when I was initially setting it up it went up to 32% and while on charger it started loosing charge. I have no idea why this happened but assumed a service was running in the background. Ever since the initial setup, on or not the watch gains charge. Seemed to take about 2 hrs from near empty to full while the display was on showing time.
As of now it wont charge at all. This is driving me insane. I got it to 9% somehow but I have no idea, and Best Buy won't have any to replace it with.
holabola said:
As of now it wont charge at all. This is driving me insane. I got it to 9% somehow but I have no idea, and Best Buy won't have any to replace it with.
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Do you have the cable that came with it plugged into the cradle? I started using my cell cable into the cradle and my battery percentage was going down instead of up.
My local Best Buy said of the two they had today the first sold wouldn't charge. I saw another post on reddit claiming theirs wouldn't turn on, could also be related to a charging issue.
pfroo40 said:
My local Best Buy said of the two they had today the first sold wouldn't charge. I saw another post on reddit claiming theirs wouldn't turn on, could also be related to a charging issue.
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This is a ****ing pathetic launch. There is literally no stock anywhere and of the few that are sold a handful have defects. This is simply disgraceful.
Here's what happend with mine.
First time I powered it on it said to download the wear app..so I did that. Then, it proceeded to connect and pair with my phone. It started to download something, (wear update?) and at about the half way point it said charge your device, shutting down. So it shut down. I put it in the cradle and it initially had 23% charge. 5 minutes later it had 18%. Not knowing what was going on, I turned it back on and was met by a spinner that said just a minute... for about 15 minutes. So I turned it back off.
After another reboot I went into the menu and selected reset device. After this it began to charge.. all the way to 100%. I turned it back on and it re-downloaded what it had to and applied the update successfully after about 3 or 4 restarts and 10 minutes. Now all seems well.
Edit.. By well I mean working. It's been merely 3 hours and with almost no use I'm down 40%. FML
yeah, i think people in their rush to use it haven't charged them fully. i plan to charge mine fully before using it.
gammite said:
yeah, i think people in their rush to use it haven't charged them fully. i plan to charge mine fully before using it.
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This was definitely my issue. The problem is the vagueness of the instructions. It basically says turn it on, download the app.. Show off (until it dies).
I had the same problem with it saying charge your battery. I put it on the charger and left. Came back, it installed an update, rebooted a couple times and then was good. I've been playing with it heavy for a few hours and it's at 69%.
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Phlip00ws6 said:
Here's what happend with mine.
First time I powered it on it said to download the wear app..so I did that. Then, it proceeded to connect and pair with my phone. It started to download something, (wear update?) and at about the half way point it said charge your device, shutting down. So it shut down. I put it in the cradle and it initially had 23% charge. 5 minutes later it had 18%. Not knowing what was going on, I turned it back on and was met by a spinner that said just a minute... for about 15 minutes. So I turned it back off.
After another reboot I went into the menu and selected reset device. After this it began to charge.. all the way to 100%. I turned it back on and it re-downloaded what it had to and applied the update successfully after about 3 or 4 restarts and 10 minutes. Now all seems well.
Edit.. By well I mean working. It's been merely 3 hours and with almost no use I'm down 40%. FML
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So, I got mine to charge and everything. So far I LOVE IT. I made a post on working apps that I've tested over in the Themes and Apps subforum. Basically, I put it on the Qi Charger I have for my Nexus 5 DIRECTLY in the center and it ended up charging then stopping again. Then, this time, I put it on the charger provided, and it worked to 100%... Very strange but I plan on exchanging it anyway as there is a single dead pixel I can see.
Same issue... Got the watch. Turned it on in the car and it started the update without promoting me to do it and now it is in the same dead cycle I've seen others post about. it will sit on the charger for hours and only be a few percent and when u power it on it tries to update and goes from 10% to 0 in less than a min or two. I just did another reset and put it on the cradle. The only feedback I have that something is happening is the watch is pretty hot. My gear live and Galaxy Gear 1 had an icon that showed charging status when the phone was off. Also they charged quickly, we're always cold and had great battery life. I can't imagine Moto not testing these devices long enough to figure that it should not try to apply an update until the battery was at a certain level or plugged in. I wish when these reviewers do features on the engineers of these devices, like have been recently done instead of ass kissing these guys would at least do some calls g out on their process. It'll like when Apple came out with the IPhone 4 and showed all these unbelievable signal testing facilities and they couldn't figure out when you held the phone normally on your left hand that the signal would drop to zero. It literally took me 2 minutes to figure out that one...
I highly advise you sink a hour charge into the watch first at least. most of these new batteries are like a lithium ion / lipo hybrid. they have a low voltage cutoff so the battery cells don't get damaged and go kaboom. Noone knows how long these sat or what charge was in them, how cold and so on during shipping. I would say people are running them low enough moto is triggering low volt cutoff.the update may have even changed the voltage values they accept as tolerable. and when you power it up this tricks it into a fail mode. ost smart chargers see the low volt and refuse the to charge for risk of a damaged cell. this sounds a lot like moto 360's issues.
When mine hit 80% on the charge, the update downloaded, watch rebooted, and the charge message started appearing.

So, got my watch today and first charge question

I got my watch today and went to charge it for the first time and it'll get to 10% and then it starts to discharge pretty rapidly. Anyone else have this issue or will it correct itself over night or something?
Another thing I've noticed is the moto360 gets a little hot when it starts discharging, maybe that's why?
sevron said:
I got my watch today and went to charge it for the first time and it'll get to 10% and then it starts to discharge pretty rapidly. Anyone else have this issue or will it correct itself over night or something?
Another thing I've noticed is the moto360 gets a little hot when it starts discharging, maybe that's why?
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Charge up first and THEN update to new OTA. Then your battery will improve a little each day.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-360/general/fix-moto-360-set-problem-charging-t2870638
I've already done the OTA. It started the download as soon as I turned it on basically.
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I've already done the OTA. It started the download as soon as I turned it on basically.
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What's your build number right now?
The latest should be 4.4W.1.
What you can try is to reset the watch, maybe that helps. That shouldn't cause that much damage as you probably don't have any data on the watch itself anyway.
Hard to reset it when you can't get it to turn on. It doesn't even show the charge indicator now. Just the backlight turning off and going dim
That doesn't sound right at all. Try a different charge cord with your dock. Mine started the update download as soon as it linked to my phone, after that it HAD to be charged to at least 80% before starting the actual update. After that it will charge from 10% to 60% in about 25mins or less.
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It's been sitting on the charger now for ~4-5 hours since I started this thread. I took it off about 5mins ago to test it, it powers on and nothing. It acts like it wants to come on, but nothing happens. Just the backlight, then it dims and soon goes off. The charging white light has been lit while it was on the charger the whole time. And it won't even display the blue circle with the time while on the charger.
When I took it out of the box earlier this afternoon it came on, paired it and started downloading the update then shut off saying to charge it. I placed it on the charger and the blue circle ring appeared. It hit 10% and started draining 2% a second and shut off. It hasn't shown the charging screen again after that. Just lights up the black screen and goes off, that's it.
So one thing I noticed, I power the watch completely off. No backlight on at all and place it on the charger. After a few seconds it turns on, black screen just backlight turns on, and vibrates really quick. Then after a couple seconds it vibrates again, but longer than it does when just powering the unit on and then the screen dims.

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