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How do I kill this? Need a root?
Because those are killing my battery; more battery used than the screen itself...
toncij said:
How do I kill this? Need a root?
Because those are killing my battery; more battery used than the screen itself...
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Yes you'd need to have root.
You could then Greenify it, although certain things that depend on it may not work properly or It will always just fail to hibernate most of the time.
You could also grab App Ops from the Play Store and set it so that GPS cannot keep your phone Awake.
You could also disable CheckIn Services for it as well using AutoRun manager.
Keep in mind.... Things may not work properly after doing any of these.
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I know the implications, but since last update that thing is annoyingly hungry.
toncij said:
I know the implications, but since last update that thing is annoyingly hungry.
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Well if you're not rooted yet grab Stump Root, super easy. Then try one of those methods.
Do you use Better Battery Stats by any chance? I'm wondering how much it's keeping your phone Awake and what App is the culprit.
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@toncij
Check out this xposed module
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54953199
May be worth looking into
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Mistertac said:
Well if you're not rooted yet grab Stump Root, super easy. Then try one of those methods.
Do you use Better Battery Stats by any chance? I'm wondering how much it's keeping your phone Awake and what App is the culprit.
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@toncij
Check out this xposed module
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54953199
May be worth looking into
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No.
This is after an hour of running without location feature. It has finally pushed Google services back a bit after the screen.
Before I've had Google services way ahead of the screen, which is downright insane.
toncij said:
No.
This is after an hour of running without location feature. It has finally pushed Google services back a bit after the screen.
Before I've had Google services way ahead of the screen, which is downright insane.
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OK well I'd suggest rooting your phone. Then use Greenify, set your WiFi Always Scanning to OFF, set location services to Battery Saving Mode if possible, try that Xposed Module I posted above, then you could also look into those other suggestions I listed above if you still weren't happy.
What are you typically getting for Battery life though??
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Mistertac said:
OK well I'd suggest rooting your phone. Then use Greenify, set your WiFi Always Scanning to OFF, set location services to Battery Saving Mode if possible, try that Xposed Module I posted above, then you could also look into those other suggestions I listed above if you still weren't happy.
What are you typically getting for Battery life though??
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I'm a dev so know pretty much most of how to optimize it, just want sure if there is any way around this energy hog.
Thanks for ideas. So far it seems turning off location service really stopped Google services from eating my battery. Don't have time for deeper analysis, but if that helps, fine, don't really use much loc. stuff anyway.
Mistertac said:
OK well I'd suggest rooting your phone. Then use Greenify, set your WiFi Always Scanning to OFF, set location services to Battery Saving Mode if possible, try that Xposed Module I posted above, then you could also look into those other suggestions I listed above if you still weren't happy.
What are you typically getting for Battery life though??
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Seems location didn't help. This service from hell is really something that needs to be addressed ASAP.
Is it possible to safely root G3 without triggering any kind of counters and to be able to unroot?
I was usually getting 5h from it, but this cuts it more than in half. Just over night without any real usage I've lost [Google services sucked] 29% of battery life!
Use stumproot to root th3 d3vice its amazing and very easy and no pc needed at all
toncij said:
Seems location didn't help. This service from hell is really something that needs to be addressed ASAP.
Is it possible to safely root G3 without triggering any kind of counters and to be able to unroot?
I was usually getting 5h from it, but this cuts it more than in half. Just over night without any real usage I've lost [Google services sucked] 29% of battery life!
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I'm petty sure you're good. From what I've read on here these LGs are not like Samsung phones that have a counter or fuse that gets tripped. And I've also read that once you flash the TOT file and go back to stock there's no trace.
I'd Root then use Better Battery Stats to see what your Partial WakeLocks, and Alarms are exactly. Could use WakeLock Detector app as well.
There's many things it could be just easier to see by using that method.
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deadlyheart4u said:
Use stumproot to root th3 d3vice its amazing and very easy and no pc needed at all
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SR does not work on my D855 3/32 V10h-EUR-XX.
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I'm petty sure you're good. From what I've read on here these LGs are not like Samsung phones that have a counter or fuse that gets tripped. And I've also read that once you flash the TOT file and go back to stock there's no trace.
I'd Root then use Better Battery Stats to see what your Partial WakeLocks, and Alarms are exactly. Could use WakeLock Detector app as well.
There's many things it could be just easier to see by using that method.
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Will try to see what can be done...
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No.
This is after an hour of running without location feature. It has finally pushed Google services back a bit after the screen.
Before I've had Google services way ahead of the screen, which is downright insane.
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It's not necessarily insane, depends on how much you use the screen....
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toncij said:
SR does not work on my D855 3/32 V10h-EUR-XX.
Will try to see what can be done...
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Stump works for all G3s. And mostly all LGs just about. If for some reason you have a G3 variant that hasn't been rooted yet... You use the Bruteforcer part of stump and it will Root.
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Mistertac said:
Stump works for all G3s. And mostly all LGs just about. If for some reason you have a G3 variant that hasn't been rooted yet... You use the Bruteforcer part of stump and it will Root.
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You were correct. On my 2nd try it offered bruteforce and it worked. Thanks. Will now proceed with trying to find the root (no pun intended) of this issue...
toncij said:
You were correct. On my 2nd try it offered bruteforce and it worked. Thanks. Will now proceed with trying to find the root (no pun intended) of this issue...
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If you need anymore help just post screen shots from Better Battery Stats or WakeLock Detector.
Do you use the Google Launcher along with "OK Google " by any chance? Google Search etc....
I used that Launcher for maybe 2 days and after seeing Google Play Services chew up so much Battery I ditched it.
Too many "Google things" running is just not good in my opinion.
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If you need anymore help just post screen shots from Better Battery Stats or WakeLock Detector.
Do you use the Google Launcher along with "OK Google " by any chance? Google Search etc....
I used that Launcher for maybe 2 days and after seeing Google Play Services chew up so much Battery I ditched it.
Too many "Google things" running is just not good in my opinion.
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Haven't really coded much or fiddled with system since HTC Desire and Android 2.2. Just used SGS3 etc. so I'm a bit rusty with it. Anyway, it seems that Google puts a lot of services there with no settings like wake intervals and such. Sounds bad enough.
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Haven't really coded much or fiddled with system since HTC Desire and Android 2.2. Just used SGS3 etc. so I'm a bit rusty with it. Anyway, it seems that Google puts a lot of services there with no settings like wake intervals and such. Sounds bad enough.
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Google can be a real pain for sure. Check out this xposed module http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54953199
And possibly grab AutoRun Manager or ROM Toolbox has a Auto Run Manager/Start Up Manager too. With that you can disable CheckIn Services for Google Services Framework and Google Play Services.
Just a couple ideas.... Wish you luck my friend
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Mistertac said:
If you need anymore help just post screen shots from Better Battery Stats or WakeLock Detector.
Do you use the Google Launcher along with "OK Google " by any chance? Google Search etc....
I used that Launcher for maybe 2 days and after seeing Google Play Services chew up so much Battery I ditched it.
Too many "Google things" running is just not good in my opinion.
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Nope, stock only.
Lennyuk said:
It's not necessarily insane, depends on how much you use the screen....
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Well, correct, yes. But I'm not really satisfied with Google's ability to drain my battery from 89% to 63% over night. Just don't like it. My first try at G3 did not have this problem, but that was weeks ago.
Mistertac said:
Google can be a real pain for sure. Check out this xposed module http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54953199
And possibly grab AutoRun Manager or ROM Toolbox has a Auto Run Manager/Start Up Manager too. With that you can disable CheckIn Services for Google Services Framework and Google Play Services.
Just a couple ideas.... Wish you luck my friend
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Will try that too... This is annoyingly long work just to prevent battery drain. Ahh, Android...
There's more ideas for Battery life in my thread here too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54342046
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toncij said:
Seems location didn't help. This service from hell is really something that needs to be addressed ASAP.
Is it possible to safely root G3 without triggering any kind of counters and to be able to unroot?
I was usually getting 5h from it, but this cuts it more than in half. Just over night without any real usage I've lost [Google services sucked] 29% of battery life!
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I'd recommend that u reflash with factory reset (CSE flash). You have a big problem there since looking at your pictures that service is keeping your phone awake almost the same time as the runtime is. Don't bother too much with greenify or WLD cause it will just show you that service generating wakelocks and most probably a service under it called NlpCollector Wakelock. Even with location turned on and location reporting and history turned on, you shouldn't have as much. Google service should be in 5-10% zone in battery usage. You can also try with Force stopping the service and clearing data, that might help too but i know there were cases play store wouldn't work as intended after that meaning you would have to reflash anyway after that.
Never had a non-rooted Android until now (Note 2, 3, 4) and the lag is insane for me. I use Greenify and have it killing nearly everything that is non-essential. I only have GPS, WiFi, basic SPan, and Sync enabled, none of the other stuff. I'll reboot every day or two. I close out apps when I'm done using them, etc. There isn't anything super obvious I'm doing to increase lag. But it's there. Even Contacts force closes every few days. Hangouts does not play nice with Swype. Just to pull up the phone log takes a long time. Any advice or should I just reflash stock to see if that helps?
Thanks, and if you haven't pledged to the root bounty, please do! Let's get this thing solved!
Oh my god!
that's why I hate Touchwiz UI! :thumbdown:
SuperMan(Alex) said:
Oh my god!
that's why I hate Touchwiz UI! :thumbdown:
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I use Nova Prime for the launcher which hopefully doesn't add to the problem.
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I use Nova Prime for the launcher which hopefully doesn't add to the problem.
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I use Nova as well and my Note is fairly snappy. I have found that every so often an app will either kill battery or slow the UI down.
There are lots of things that can be causing it so I'm on sure if there's a quick fix without really k owing more of your setup. (what's installed, art/davlik, developer settings, etc.)
I personally don't use greenify on a no rooted device cause I couldn't get it to automatically work. What I did do, and it seems to have helped greatly is to block/disable a bunch of bloat with the program at the following link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2998294
Works great and leaves everything in place so OTA updates still work.
Guys, please. The point of my thread is NOT whether the root claim is a lie or not. I am asking some questions about what can be done with it regardless, so please, if anyone knows inform me, but don't post guessing games of whether it is real or not.
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So the Note 4 is actually my first device I've owned where I didn't have an unlocked bootloader. Because of this, I'm not sure whether all the modifications I've made to my past devices were enabled because I had an unlocked bootloader.
The only thing I know we can't do is install custom roms.
So... that leaves me with a question. What kinds of things can we do with just root?
On top of that, I have some specific questions (Might think of more later) :
Will root let us be able to install the auto-brightness control that the international version of the Note 4 has? If you don't know, you're able to adjust how low or high the auto brightness stages will go without turning off auto brightness on that version. It's so much nicer than having to turn off auto, adjust to where you want, and then remember to turn auto back on when you leave that environment.
Can we remap the capacitive multitask button to be a menu button instead? And to remap long-pressing that button to be the new multitask?
Thanks!
There's safe strap which allows us to have custom roms.
droidx2.3.3 said:
There's safe strap which allows us to have custom roms.
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did they get a safestrap to work?
I'm assuming that they will. I suppose I should have worded my post different.
So it should have said, if we get safe strap we will be able to have custom roms.
It's not quiet the same as a unlocked bootloader though.
We have root?
what proof?
Well regardless of whether we have custom roms through some other means, I'd personally most interested in those 2 questions I stated. That's honestly the things I want most with root at the moment.
Where is root?
Root has not been proven yet. Patience. Everyone is jumping the gun here.
Guys, please. The point of my thread is NOT whether the root claim is a lie or not. I am asking some questions about what can be done with it regardless, so please, if anyone knows inform me, but don't post guessing games of whether it is real or not.
Hobox10 said:
Guys, please. The point of my thread is NOT whether the root claim is a lie or not. I am asking some questions about what can be done with it regardless, so please, if anyone knows inform me, but don't post guessing games of whether it is real or not.
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My main and only real reason for wanting root is for Ad Block ESPECIALLY in youtube. I hate those commercials... You can install Ad Block without root (as I just did) but it just doesn't seem to work as well as it did with my last rooted device... Although I'm not sure if this is the app devs getting more creative with how they get ads through or possibly even a Lollipop things...
The other main reason was so Rocket Player could delete podcasts I had already listened too.. That was resolved with the Lollipop update so I am good to go there...
Some really like Root for Titanium backup to back up ALL app data and settings... This was handy for me back when I was flashing ROMS all the time but without that capability I don't see myself having much of a need for that since the games I play store the data in the Android folder which I don't need root to copy/backup
Another great thing that has come about the last year or so is Xposed modules.. These give you just about ANY customization you could possibly want but of course in order to use them you will also need root..... There is a great app that pulls the commercials from Youtube which I will be checking out if Root is actually here... As I said before I hate hate the ads... Not that I don't buy FULL versions of some of the apps if I find them useful because I do... But with things like Chrome and Youtube I really miss the option of them being disabled... Yes I know Firefox has this built in but I like y Chrome for the ability to send pages from my PC to my phone with the click of a button....
I find that the Note 4 with the help of Apex PRO has helped me gain many of the features I once wanted Root and the ability to flash things for... So now I am just looking for the ability to kill some ads....
There are also a few apps I would delete or freeze with Titanium Backup once we had that option... Turning them off is nice but I want the space back...
dr12volt1338 said:
My main and only real reason for wanting root is for Ad Block ESPECIALLY in youtube. I hate those commercials... You can install Ad Block without root (as I just did) but it just doesn't seem to work as well as it did with my last rooted device... Although I'm not sure if this is the app devs getting more creative with how they get ads through or possibly even a Lollipop things...
The other main reason was so Rocket Player could delete podcasts I had already listened too.. That was resolved with the Lollipop update so I am good to go there...
Some really like Root for Titanium backup to back up ALL app data and settings... This was handy for me back when I was flashing ROMS all the time but without that capability I don't see myself having much of a need for that since the games I play store the data in the Android folder which I don't need root to copy/backup
Another great thing that has come about the last year or so is Xposed modules.. These give you just about ANY customization you could possibly want but of course in order to use them you will also need root..... There is a great app that pulls the commercials from Youtube which I will be checking out if Root is actually here... As I said before I hate hate the ads... Not that I don't buy FULL versions of some of the apps if I find them useful because I do... But with things like Chrome and Youtube I really miss the option of them being disabled... Yes I know Firefox has this built in but I like y Chrome for the ability to send pages from my PC to my phone with the click of a button....
I find that the Note 4 with the help of Apex PRO has helped me gain many of the features I once wanted Root and the ability to flash things for... So now I am just looking for the ability to kill some ads....
There are also a few apps I would delete or freeze with Titanium Backup once we had that option... Turning them off is nice but I want the space back...
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I'm with you on the adblock and it's one of the things I've been looking forward too also. The ads mobile gets is ridiculous, I'm fine with them on most websites on the computer but the mobile versions really kill some things.
Xposed is an interesting topic to me, I've never had any experience with it since I've never really needed it. It will be fun to see what they do. Thanks for the info.
root
Do you know if they release their root tool now? If they do, where is it?
52yt said:
Do you know if they release their root tool now? If they do, where is it?
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The tool is not out. He's asking what can be done with root.
I want to delete all bloatware, install multi window for all apps, adblock, mxtube downloader, and xposed for 4.4.4
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2swizzle said:
The tool is not out. He's asking what can be done with root.
I want to delete all bloatware, install multi window for all apps, adblock, mxtube downloader, and xposed for 4.4.4
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Good point I forgot about being able to add multi window for non supported apps... It would be really nice for Tapatalk to support it
Ooh multi-window on almost any app sounds awesome!
you can remove pre-loaded carrier apps that cause sluggish instability. improve battery life, and speed up application start times.
Mw-pen app enabler, ive been using since i got this phone. Let's you add apps to multi window. Should work for non system apps. It's worked for me. been my solution until we get root, if we do.
djnikkofb said:
you can remove pre-loaded carrier apps that cause sluggish instability. improve battery life, and speed up application start times.
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Just an fyi: You can disable bloatware without having root by using @gatesjunior's Debloater utility. Here's the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2998294
2swizzle said:
The tool is not out. He's asking what can be done with root.
I want to delete all bloatware, install multi window for all apps, adblock, mxtube downloader, and xposed for 4.4.4
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Daciple said:
Mw-pen app enabler, ive been using since i got this phone. Let's you add apps to multi window. Should work for non system apps. It's worked for me. been my solution until we get root, if we do.
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I had no idea that existed or was possible without root. Great find!
I'm on the fence whether to root my device or not. The most alluring thing being the opportunity to get rid of Verizon's gimped note 7 software.
All those who have rooted... what have you specifically gained with your rooting? how is the sprint firmware?
Losing Samsung pay is a dealbreaker. I use it almost everyday
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androidbuff123 said:
I'm on the fence whether to root my device or not. The most alluring thing being the opportunity to get rid of Verizon's gimped note 7 software.
All those who have rooted... what have you specifically gained with your rooting? how is the sprint firmware?
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Well that's easy being able to use adblockers, greenify,and a system tuner is all reason for me to have root . Ov3rall you get a faster phone if you know what to do and better battery life as well.
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adaway...I hate ads in apps
adway alone is not a compelling reason for me. I use adguard which works fine (yes adway is free however).
Are there any specific gains on the firmware front?
Nothing beneficial. My battery is no better, I can't use Samsung pay, my gear app won't open so I can't use my promo watch.
I have no ads system wide though, but I was happier using Adguard for just chrome, package disabler to stop apps, and I was especially happier having everything everything work.
I just want the unlocked firmware so that I have samsung cloud the way samsung wanted it and not have to work around.
Still debating. Yes we get root but will be stuck with the ROM for a long time even after ota or any up to date updates. Is it worth to root now. Then unroot later? Or get used to not having root then be OK. Yes some ota might not be important but some might have issues fixed or new radio or what not but we can't move on or update the eng rom with all that. Unless I am completely wrong.
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cadcamaro said:
Nothing beneficial. My battery is no better, I can't use Samsung pay, my gear app won't open so I can't use my promo watch.
I have no ads system wide though, but I was happier using Adguard for just chrome, package disabler to stop apps, and I was especially happier having everything everything work.
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brentsalinas714 said:
Well that's easy being able to use adblockers, greenify,and a system tuner is all reason for me to have root . Ov3rall you get a faster phone if you know what to do and better battery life as well.
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Can all be done without root as seen in the post I quoted above yours. The phone has greenify built in btw lol The only one single thing I can think of that I would truly miss without root is xposed. Is it worth losing 3 other big features though? Don't know yet.
seh6183 said:
Can all be done without root as seen in the post I quoted above yours. The phone has greenify built in btw lol The only one single thing I can think of that I would truly miss without root is xposed. Is it worth losing 3 other big features though? Don't know yet.
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From what I can see, Xposed is installed through TWRP normally, but I haven't seen a way to install other than pushing through ADB.
cadcamaro said:
From what I can see, Xposed is installed through TWRP normally, but I haven't seen a way to install other than pushing through ADB.
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True. I haven't had a phone that was rooted but still bootloader locked for quite some time. They are something i associate with each other. Good catch. So for me, I essentially have no reason to root as of right now lol
For years I have rooted phones, and I have seen them get slower and slower.
I'm so happy to say that I see no real benefit to rooting anymore. Although AdGuard must be purchased, this app really eliminates the most compelling reason for me to root.
When I used Greenify and CPU Tuner on my older phones, I never saw any real benefit, and I think rooting may have done more harm than good. The only real benefit I would probably get by rooting is being able to fully remove the Verizon bloatware that I have already disabled.
Rooting is fun, it's more the pleasure of completing the process and the feel of living out of the manufacturer's boundaries. But, for once, I am happy to stay with the stock experience Samsung has cooked up.
People were saying Xposed and Viper were working which are huge. I went back because I want the old SNote functionality and this phone is so good I can live without it, but...
This just started. Every day these guys make a major improvement. A week from now we may have better than both worlds and be rooted, so withhold judgement, I would.
I've been rooting for years. It's a personal preference. I hate all the white on my phone. Using inverted apps, along with Custom Kernels really enhanced battery life for me. Of course adaway is awesome but there are alternatives. Inverted apps, Viper and status bar options are my rooting wants. Getting rid of the annoying volume warning, center my clock, ....... Damn there are a lot of reasons to root. Lol
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seh6183 said:
Can all be done without root as seen in the post I quoted above yours. The phone has greenify built in btw lol The only one single thing I can think of that I would truly miss without root is xposed. Is it worth losing 3 other big features though? Don't know yet.
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No it does not have greenify built in. Having the system only putting apps to sleep in 3 days is not greenify. Greenify is an on the fly app sleeper as well you can also greenify system apps.
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cadcamaro said:
Nothing beneficial. My battery is no better, I can't use Samsung pay, my gear app won't open so I can't use my promo watch.
I have no ads system wide though, but I was happier using Adguard for just chrome, package disabler to stop apps, and I was especially happier having everything everything work.
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Try using greenify app and a system tuner like 3c .
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From what I can see, Xposed is installed through TWRP normally, but I haven't seen a way to install other than pushing through ADB.
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You can flash anything using flashfire.I have exposed installed using it .
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You can select or deselect apps to "optimize" at will if I'm not mistaken.
seh6183 said:
You can select or deselect apps to "optimize" at will if I'm not mistaken.
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Only puts apps to sleep if not used for 3 days minimum .
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The main reason I always rooted my phones was to use titanium backup. Had it back up the phone to the SD card every night. Saved me a couple of times. But after 2 years on the note 4 without root, I've learned to live without it. And now that I've started using Samsung Pay, I doubt I'll bother.
MSHampton said:
The main reason I always rooted my phones was to use titanium backup. Had it back up the phone to the SD card every night. Saved me a couple of times. But after 2 years on the note 4 without root, I've learned to live without it. And now that I've started using Samsung Pay, I doubt I'll bother.
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Samsung cloud backup does exactly what titanium does now. They are systematically removing all of our desires to root one by one. It's fine with me really. I just want to be able to install kernels. Then again those are getting so good it's not really a huge deal anymore.
It's a shame we lose so much with root, too much for it to be worth it IMO. Samsung/Android pay, VoLte, wifi calling, etc. The only thing I miss about root is xposed and a few of the modules, otherwise you can do most of that stuff on an unrooted phone.
Hello everyone and a happy new year to all!!
I run a business with my phone and used greenify to close all background apps (ig, fb, Twitter etc) from opening up and distracting from business text and email notifications popping up. And also saving battery.
But obviously I learned the greenify isn't being updated for a while and it's a nightmare to easily close certain apps I need closed. I still use it but it takes like 10 mins to close apps that I have chosen to be hibernated.
Is there an app for android 12 that I can use that actually works and closes my background apps in 10 seconds?
I wholeheartedly appreciate any answers!
Thank you all and please stay safe.
Mikedeez! said:
Hello everyone and a happy new year to all!!
I run a business with my phone and used greenify to close all background apps (ig, fb, Twitter etc) from opening up and distracting from business text and email notifications popping up. And also saving battery.
But obviously I learned the greenify isn't being updated for a while and it's a nightmare to easily close certain apps I need closed. I still use it but it takes like 10 mins to close apps that I have chosen to be hibernated.
Is there an app for android 12 that I can use that actually works and closes my background apps in 10 seconds?
I wholeheartedly appreciate any answers!
Thank you all and please stay safe.
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I use Ice Box to freeze and defrost apps when I'm not using them.
Thank you for your reply, I'm assuming that you're rooted?
And also when I do greenify all the apps (which takes forever) you know how when you want to share something, you hit "share" and Android opens up all the suggested apps to share with, that causes all the apps to wake up, does that happen with your method?
Mikedeez! said:
Hello everyone and a happy new year to all!!
I run a business with my phone and used greenify to close all background apps (ig, fb, Twitter etc) from opening up and distracting from business text and email notifications popping up. And also saving battery.
But obviously I learned the greenify isn't being updated for a while and it's a nightmare to easily close certain apps I need closed. I still use it but it takes like 10 mins to close apps that I have chosen to be hibernated.
Is there an app for android 12 that I can use that actually works and closes my background apps in 10 seconds?
I wholeheartedly appreciate any answers!
Thank you all and please stay safe.
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Hi, servicly is a good alternative for greenify, but for this to be operational android phone must be rooted..
Thank you, I was not trying to go the rooting route, I used to root and install nightlies like a mad man years ago. But now I'm out of the game. Just one question with that. Do you lose Ota updates rooting? Thank you very much.
Mikedeez! said:
Thank you for your reply, I'm assuming that you're rooted?
And also when I do greenify all the apps (which takes forever) you know how when you want to share something, you hit "share" and Android opens up all the suggested apps to share with, that causes all the apps to wake up, does that happen with your method?
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No, freezing the app disables it until you launch it again. The other suggestion of Servicely may fit your needs better. Both require root.
Mikedeez! said:
Just one question with that. Do you lose Ota updates rooting?
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You still get OTA updates when rooted, just have to do an extra step after installing to keep root. Install OTA but don't reboot yet, then install magisk to inactive slot, then reboot.
Oh I see, if I root then get the Ota it'll disable root and will have to root again. Got it.
But are you 100 percent sure that "share suggestions" don't open up all the apps? Because greenify froze my apps too but like I said before the "search suggestions" would reopen them.
And also does servicely and the other apps freeze quickly? Unlike greenify now that takes like 5 seconds each app to force close. Was so used to greenify it was so easy.
I really do appreciate your help and patience
For my part, i use a battery monitor app called BatteryGuru which has an option for doze configuration which puts apps in hibernation and your device in deep sleep same as the shortcut for sleep in greenify.
Hey, thanks. Do i need root?
Try Naptime.
Mikedeez! said:
Hey, thanks. Do i need root?
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BatteryGuru needs a set of permissions achieved with adb commands. There's how to guide in app.
Both icebox and brevent are good to go, neither requires root, you need to do adb or wireless debug though, easy to use and I also recommend Shizuku which helps a lot for non root but high previliege actions
Hello, and thank you again. But it seems like these apps are for doze. I'm more looking for an app that "force stops" apps. Preferably like a batch force stop like greenify did.
I want to pick and choose which apps I want running and which I don't.
Thank you and happy new year
Mikedeez! said:
Hello, and thank you again. But it seems like these apps are for doze. I'm more looking for an app that "force stops" apps. Preferably like a batch force stop like greenify did.
I want to pick and choose which apps I want running and which I don't.
Thank you and happy new year
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Icebox works great with root. Never tried it without. It completely disables target apps like they aren't even installed on your phone. They don't show up in the share menu. The free version tackles 10 apps max. For more, you need the full version.
What @terlynn4 said about rooted OTA is correct, with the qualification that you will need to download the full OTA (4gb+), not incremental.
I'll definitely dabble again in rooting if needed be. Had so much fun with it since the first Android. But then just got older and busier and stopped sadly.
Now with this new oxygen colorOS crap it's a nightmare.
Does anyone know why greenify technically DOES work but takes so darn long to go thru its cycle on Android 12? Or is it just our OS that's like that?
Mikedeez! said:
I'll definitely dabble again in rooting if needed be. Had so much fun with it since the first Android. But then just got older and busier and stopped sadly.
Now with this new oxygen colorOS crap it's a nightmare.
Does anyone know why greenify technically DOES work but takes so darn long to go thru its cycle on Android 12? Or is it just our OS that's like that?
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Greenify was sold to some Chinese entity, and they haven't kept up with Android development.
tathagatab said:
Greenify was sold to some Chinese entity, and they haven't kept up with Android development.
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It was definitely all good until Android 12. Now even the other apps that were like greenify do the same thing and take forever to cycle thru the apps and force stops them. I wonder why
Maybe because android 12 already "optimizes" apps and has a background app check that shows which app are running since when. Maybe not an expert here.I
know this is off-topic but If anyone is interested in a good close to stock android 12 source custom rom, i highly suggest StagOs 12. It spoofs a pixel 5 so you get all pixel 5 features. I like it very much.
I went on background check and there's only 2 apps there with a date that says March.
Dumb question guys/gals like I said since I haven't rooted in a looooong time.. If I root will it erase my phone? And if so what app do I use to make the best backup so I can keep my apps and data associated with it before I root. Love you all for the help.