I know you guys might be tired of these threads but I thought I might as well post this.
My desire is fairly new(Less than a week) and so far its been good apart from(What I though) battery life. i've been trying to improve it and I think I might have "some" progress.
Currently I'm running DeFrost 4.9 with HAVS @ 1137(4.9a) kernel with the very latest radio, I also use only 2G networks(No 3G here). I got two Gmail accounts but only one has sync(The other one is merely for Google checkout CC purchases), I got one Facebook account set to sync every hour as well as LP Facebook widget also set to sync every hour. I also got FancyWidget syncing weather every 3 hours. Apart from these I got Nimbuzz running 24/7 in background. The battery is calibrated and yesterday I did a complete discharge/recharge.
Now I plugged it off the charger 2 hours ago, it was at 100 according to spare parts. The brightness is at 2%. I did some lite browsing, browsed a bit with Tapatalk Pro and 40 minutes ago went to a market nearby. During my trip to market I had Google Navigation turned on navigating me(During both, the trip to the market and return). Now while making this post the battery is at 81%. Does it sound right?
Dragooon123 said:
I know you guys might be tired of these threads but I thought I might as well post this.
My desire is fairly new(Less than a week) and so far its been good apart from(What I though) battery life. i've been trying to improve it and I think I might have "some" progress.
Currently I'm running DeFrost 4.9 with HAVS @ 1137(4.9a) kernel with the very latest radio, I also use only 2G networks(No 3G here). I got two Gmail accounts but only one has sync(The other one is merely for Google checkout CC purchases), I got one Facebook account set to sync every hour as well as LP Facebook widget also set to sync every hour. I also got FancyWidget syncing weather every 3 hours. Apart from these I got Nimbuzz running 24/7 in background. The battery is calibrated and yesterday I did a complete discharge/recharge.
Now I plugged it off the charger 2 hours ago, it was at 100 according to spare parts. The brightness is at 2%. I did some lite browsing, browsed a bit with Tapatalk Pro and 40 minutes ago went to a market nearby. During my trip to market I had Google Navigation turned on navigating me(During both, the trip to the market and return). Now while making this post the battery is at 81%. Does it sound right?
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How much time the display was on? How much time was the GPS on?
Be careful, don't be happy before time. I did the recalibration too, and found that my phone would turn itself off at ~20% remaining battery.
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How much time the display was on? How much time was the GPS on?
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During the navigation, about 5 minutes for display, 40 minutes GPS during which I went into a building for 10 minutes and it probably lost signal then.
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OK, this ain't good. I slept at around 2 AM with 29% battery life. In the morning(10:30 AM) it was dead(0% battery).
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OK, this ain't good. I slept at around 2 AM with 29% battery life. In the morning(10:30 AM) it was dead(0% battery).
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Sound about right. 8.5 hours with your facebook and other syncs. I don't see any problems at all. Mine does this too.
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OK, this ain't good. I slept at around 2 AM with 29% battery life. In the morning(10:30 AM) it was dead(0% battery).
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First, in the night put the phone in airplane mode (I dont think u need to check ur facebook )
Second, check if u have useless programs that are using cpu in background, if is this the case UNINSTALL that program and CONTACT the developer. We dont need to kill those kinds of app, we just have to UNINSTALL if an app doesn't work properly, untill the developer will fix it. If all people will do like me, the market will full of great apps
I don't think I have any useless stuff running in the background. All I got are 2 widgets(Facebook and Twitter) syncing every 1 hour and 3 hours respectively, one Fancy Widget fetching weather and Gmail push for one account. Is their a way I can check all the services running in the BG?
EDIT : Forgot to mention Nimbuzz running 24/7.
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Be careful, don't be happy before time. I did the recalibration too, and found that my phone would turn itself off at ~20% remaining battery.
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Agree... before I used to see 1% but after "calibration" now it shuts down itself at 8~9%
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Dragooon123 said:
OK, this ain't good. I slept at around 2 AM with 29% battery life. In the morning(10:30 AM) it was dead(0% battery).
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I won't rehash all of what has been heavily discussed by now in much greater depth, like in the FroYo Battery Usage thread. But auto sync with such social applications and you set yourself up for low battery runtime to begin with. Especially with a constant polling IM and/or battery widget running too. Don't expect much.
Anyway, I don't use them but weather, stocks, 5 mail accounts and news is set to auto-sync every 15 minutes and WiFi is always running if available. Last discharge as soon as I connected charger ended at:
http://bit.ly/c6R59G
http://bit.ly/bmM9oN
http://bit.ly/cMlnun
http://bit.ly/akPvr7
I slept twice for 7-8 hours each on that charge and it includes all of my daily usage including listening to 127 minutes of MP3 via headphones with the screen off.
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Hmm Wi-Fi + Nimbuzz really screws up the battery . Last night I turned off the Wi-Fi and slept for 8 hours. I had 46% battery before and in the morning I had 40%. I also have disabled Auto-sync for Twitter/Facebook widget and Facebook app. Now the only running services I got are Gmail push, FancyWidget weather and Nimbuzz.
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I won't rehash all of what has been heavily discussed by now in much greater depth, like in the FroYo Battery Usage thread. But auto sync with such social applications and you set yourself up for low battery runtime to begin with. Especially with a constant polling IM and/or battery widget running too. Don't expect much.
Anyway, I don't use them but weather, stocks, 5 mail accounts and news is set to auto-sync every 15 minutes and WiFi is always running if available. Last discharge as soon as I connected charger ended at:
http://bit.ly/c6R59G
http://bit.ly/bmM9oN
http://bit.ly/cMlnun
http://bit.ly/akPvr7
I slept twice for 7-8 hours each on that charge and it includes all of my daily usage including listening to 127 minutes of MP3 via headphones with the screen off.
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How did you manage to get such good battery life? Your phone lasted for over a 32 hours period which included 6 hours of display. And that too with stocks and News syncing every 15 minutes. Does Nimbuzz really screw you that much?
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I won't rehash all of what has been heavily discussed by now in much greater depth, like in the FroYo Battery Usage thread. But auto sync with such social applications and you set yourself up for low battery runtime to begin with. Especially with a constant polling IM and/or battery widget running too. Don't expect much.
Anyway, I don't use them but weather, stocks, 5 mail accounts and news is set to auto-sync every 15 minutes and WiFi is always running if available. Last discharge as soon as I connected charger ended at:
http://bit.ly/c6R59G
http://bit.ly/bmM9oN
http://bit.ly/cMlnun
http://bit.ly/akPvr7
I slept twice for 7-8 hours each on that charge and it includes all of my daily usage including listening to 127 minutes of MP3 via headphones with the screen off.
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Well now datz some good battery. Which ROM are you using? Which Radio are you using?
I don't have any account/social networking syncing. Don't use wifi more than 20 mins a day. Brightness 20%. NO GPS. No Bluetooth. No stupid application sucking battery's power. If my screen is off I lose about 3-4% for a period of 5 hours, so no app sucking the battery in the sleep mode.
If i use EDGE when the battery is Full for about an hour I get battery drain of 20%
Would love to know more details on which ROM, Radio and your settings.
OK. There's not much I can say except what other guys who know better than me said here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743172
It's all usage/config/settings dependent. There's no secret sauce. Some setups and usages last shorter than others, yet further, some drastically shorter.
Firstly, I don't change something working well nor move from a setup until I've worked with it the best I could. The ROM I use daily is HTC 2.2 with root. The radio is some old one that worked perfect for me: 32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20. I can give you some details so you can characterize the battery performance on mine better.
- H.264 sub 2.5Mbps 800*480 video playback at 18% brightness lasts 5.5-6.5h with about 15% remaining. This has been repeated more than 50 times since March.
- My average runtime used to be 13-18h since March but I knew something was wrong and drawing more juice than necessary. I kept looking (mainly at the logs). It took me months to figure out it was a few things including my build.prop WiFi/cell settings, A2SD+, my GMail install, battery widgets, eBuddy, Titanium Backup, Chrome2Phone, Pure Calendar/Grid widgets and my 3G baseband reception. Some app versions were buggy and constantly polling and returning random errors in the background. I had to eliminate them one by one.
I rectified such problems entirely and removed all the unnecessary apps installed which I rarely used. I had to revert back to FroYos A2SD with the install location mod. That took me to todays battery runtime which I'm very happy with. Chrome2Phone for instance could stay installed and be disconnected when not in use to avoid the large background drain it caused.
- I run personalized colour calibration with lowered overall luminance but more red and green with less blue sub-pixel luminance. Very near D6500 whites. I also keep most apps and my homescreens dark when and where possible. I disable button LEDs through a widget when not required (much).
- 24-39h is the norm for me in typical usage. Among much else that always includes a few short calls, some YouTube, some StreetView, some TapeMachine (audio record), some Scan2PDF, some Aldiko, some Chrome2Phone and Fox2Phone, some Tapatalk browsing, some XDA app browsing, some Quick App Clean Cache, some SpringPad, some Adobe PDF, max 15mins of MP3 playback, heavy net and NewsRoom browsing, 150-250 emails and messages and constant sync with what I listed priorly. Always 2G though, and whenever I reach areas I know have bad or no reception (causing high drain) that I'll be staying at for more than 10mins, I disable cell (frequently). I've nurtured the habit of putting the phone in standby after every use too.
- 6-9.5h display on aggregate is the norm for me. I use lowest brightness possible or 18% typically. 50% in very bright, direct summer sunlight. Just now the battery ran out after 26 hours with 9.2h display on, 13.5h cell on and 22h WiFi on.
- I have apps I consider junk removed: Facebook, Footprints, etc. The lot. So no sync or auto running for them or their widgets in the background. I also removed the base GMail because logs showed me it carried on running sync all the time even when not set to. I forced the latest GMail APK in and it has no such problems. I removed all battery widgets installed except one since they drain heavily.
- Heavy usage like GPS, lengthy calls, video recording and playback cuts the runtime down drastically which should be conspicuous. I can drain the battery fully in 5h with everything max and running.
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If my screen is off I lose about 3-4% for a period of 5 hours, so no app sucking the battery in the sleep mode.[...]
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In contrast, I lose 1-2% over 8-10hours in standby, maximum, with WiFi on. Usually 1%.
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Thats some damn battery life you have there. You are on a Sense ROM? Do you actually use Sense? If so you're either exaggerating or I'm a total fool(I'd prefer the latter).
I've been trying to fine tune the battery, currently I'm using DeFroST 4.9 with SVS 998Mhz @ 1275mv kernel with 17_2 radio. Re-calibrated the battery yesterday and compiled a custom wi-fi module containing fixes for sleep disconnection today morning.
I left it at night around 3 AM with 99% battery, turned off the Wi-Fi/EDGE but kept mobile on. In the morning(Around 9:30AM) I was at around 91%. Gave it a quick charge to 100 till around 11:15 AM. Disconnected it and from 11:20 to about 11:40/45 AM I had quite a heavy chat session over Nimbuzz with my friend. My battery went from 100 to 94% in that time. After that I pretty much left it, picked it up to check a mail once or twice and sent a few messages over Nimbuzz. It is 1:40AM now and I'm down to 89%. All of this was over Wi-Fi, GPS off, Bluetooth off, no tethering no nothing. I got no Facebook/Twitter auto-sync. Only FancyWidget(every 3 hours) and Gmail Push. Brightness is at 2%(Although even then it is a bit bright, maybe it is just me).
I am using Extended control widget to see the power percentage.
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OK. There's not much I can say except what other guys who know better than me said here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743172
It's all usage/config/settings dependent. There's no secret sauce. Some setups and usages last shorter than others, yet further, some drastically shorter.
Firstly, I don't change something working well nor move from a setup until I've worked with it the best I could. The ROM I use daily is HTC 2.2 with root. The radio is some old one that worked perfect for me: 32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20. I can give you some details so you can characterize the battery performance on mine better.
- H.264 sub 2.5Mbps 800*480 video playback at 18% brightness lasts 5.5-6.5h with about 15% remaining. This has been repeated more than 50 times since March.
- My average runtime used to be 13-18h since March but I knew something was wrong and drawing more juice than necessary. I kept looking (mainly at the logs). It took me months to figure out it was a few things including my build.prop WiFi/cell settings, A2SD+, my GMail install, battery widgets, eBuddy, Titanium Backup, Chrome2Phone, Pure Calendar/Grid widgets and my 3G baseband reception. Some app versions were buggy and constantly polling and returning random errors in the background. I had to eliminate them one by one.
I rectified such problems entirely and removed all the unnecessary apps installed which I rarely used. I had to revert back to FroYos A2SD with the install location mod. That took me to todays battery runtime which I'm very happy with. Chrome2Phone for instance could stay installed and be disconnected when not in use to avoid the large background drain it caused.
- I run personalized colour calibration with lowered overall luminance but more red and green with less blue sub-pixel luminance. Very near D6500 whites. I also keep most apps and my homescreens dark when and where possible. I disable button LEDs through a widget when not required (much).
- 24-39h is the norm for me in typical usage. Among much else that always includes a few short calls, some YouTube, some StreetView, some TapeMachine (audio record), some Scan2PDF, some Aldiko, some Chrome2Phone and Fox2Phone, some Tapatalk browsing, some XDA app browsing, some Quick App Clean Cache, some SpringPad, some Adobe PDF, max 15mins of MP3 playback, heavy net and NewsRoom browsing, 150-250 emails and messages and constant sync with what I listed priorly. Always 2G though, and whenever I reach areas I know have bad or no reception (causing high drain) that I'll be staying at for more than 10mins, I disable cell (frequently). I've nurtured the habit of putting the phone in standby after every use too.
- 6-9.5h display on aggregate is the norm for me. I use lowest brightness possible or 18% typically. 50% in very bright, direct summer sunlight. Just now the battery ran out after 26 hours with 9.2h display on, 13.5h cell on and 22h WiFi on.
- I have apps I consider junk removed: Facebook, Footprints, etc. The lot. So no sync or auto running for them or their widgets in the background. I also removed the base GMail because logs showed me it carried on running sync all the time even when not set to. I forced the latest GMail APK in and it has no such problems. I removed all battery widgets installed except one since they drain heavily.
- Heavy usage like GPS, lengthy calls, video recording and playback cuts the runtime down drastically which should be conspicuous. I can drain the battery fully in 5h with everything max and running.
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Whoa ! Amazing post there. This should keep me occupied for quite some time to figure out what the heck is going on with my battery. The battery life what you are getting is really good and that is what everybody should get provided they figure out what the heck is sucking their battery that bad. Lotsa things and apps you have said drains the battery is on my phone and I haven't even started looking at logs in detail. Itz been only couple of weeks since I have this phone so I'll defn start looking into this issue.
Few questions
1. What issues did you have with your build.prop?
2. What battery widget are your currently using ?
3. You have mentioned A2SD+ also is a battery drain, was it a particular ROM's implementation of A2SD+ or older version of A2SD+ or A2SD+ in general causes battery drain ? Would be great if you could link us to the location mod
OK, It is 7:05 PM now and I am down to 70%. Nimbuzz was on all the time along with Wi-Fi(Although I don't know what happened but it switched to EDGE as if it lost Wi-Fi connectivity, Wi-Fi wasn't disabled, just disconnected). And I pretty much haven't touched it since 1:40 PM. Not as good as I hoped, but still kind of decent.
And my Wi-Fi strength isn't that great either, it is either 1 or 2 bar out of 4.
Well, I haven't done any such kernel modifications intentionally. Never had any need to either. 14.5h since last charge now, cell on 5h, WiFi on 12.5h, display on 2h and 76% remaining (actually, those stats were collected and written an hour back). The Desire display has been verified to consume at least 70% of the total device power when the screen is on. So you can't get more hours with display on if it didn't run as such.
It's HTCs ROM so of course it is using Sense. I can't do without most HTC added goods in Sense. Let alone the Mail, Bookmarks, Calendar, Stocks, Copy/Paste, Lookup, Clock, Gallery and Camera apps and widgets. The widgets I depend on work well only on the HTC ROMs I've tried. The missed Sense goodness combined with the bugs and problems I had on AOSP ROMs were extremely problematic so I moved back. Even my video recording and native playback is much better on this ROM.
To be frank, you've hardly had the phone so you'll learn much more yet. And it comes through search->reading->experimenting first. 1-2 weeks is too little for even figuring out most of the basics, unless you're moving from a similar phone and OS. For one, you'll need to actually read the linked thread to see what many observed and experienced. It took me and many others 6 months to learn things and get to this stage. Every other day I was testing and monitoring. But be aware that you can't, for instance, have the exact same setup and usage as me to have the same resultant battery life.
Had you read the linked thread you'd also be aware by now that bugs were filed for inaccurate % readings by Androids Battery Usage section. However, its time tracking was reliable in my testing.
- On your typical full discharge, how much time and % is listed under Display on?
- And for cell?
- Which A2SD are you using?
- Static wallpaper/color?
- Animation settings?
- Location on?
- Network location errors in logcat?
- Cell network chosen auto or manual?
- Did you mention all the widgets on all homescreens?
- OSMonitor/CurrentWidget values in idle screen on and idle screen off?
I use EC and SwitchPro widgets too but their battery widgets (like you mentioned) are known as ones with high consistent drain. The EC dev also corroborated this in its thread under the Themes section.
The 'idle' drops you get don't make sense to me unless there's fundamental hardware/software activity you haven't properly monitored and logged. Even kernel and I/O usage in the background. You'd be surprised at the difference one buggy underlying feature can make.
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If you're actually asking those questions, here goes. Note, I am at 66% and the time is 8:56PM. And after this I'm gonna nandroid this ROM and try SuperVillainHD just for the kicks. Also, can it be that since the phone is relatively new, the battery is not up to its full potential?
Q1, 2) Battery usage is :
Display: 35% (35m 37s)
Wi-Fi: 20% (9h 44m 22s)
Cell standby : 15% (9h 44m 22s)
Phone idle: 14% (9h 9m 42s)
Android system: 6% (CPU Total: 9m 35s, CPU Foreground: 27s, Data sent: 7.82KB, Date received: 11.38KB)
Nimbuzz: 4% (CPU Total: 6m 46s, CPU Foreground: 2m 54s, Data sent: 298KB, Data received: 851KB)
Android OS: 3% (4m 1s)
Voice calls: 2% (45s)
Q3) I'm using DeFroST ROM with A2SD+
Q4) Yes, I'm using a static wallpaper
Q5) Animations is set to : All animations
Q6) GPS is disabled, if that is what you mean.
Q7) How can I check this and what would it show?
Q8) Didn't touch this, so I'm presuming Auto.
Q9) I'm not sure, so here goes. I got a Twitter widget, Facebook widget, both are set for manual syncing. Got FancyWidget syncing every 3 hours and several harmless icons. I got 3 bars of Extended Control widget and a google search widget
Q10) I don't have those, are they available in market? Do they consume battery?
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1. What issues did you have with your build.prop?
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I'll have to open the file for that to check exactly the changes I made. I didn't really follow anyone, just went off my own understanding and intuition. If I try to access the dir or open the file whilst the phone is not in Recovery, it'll force a reboot so I'll give more details later on this when I'm near a PC.
2. What battery widget are your currently using ?
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Just this: http://bit.ly/cNQUVd
3. You have mentioned A2SD+ also is a battery drain, was it a particular ROM's implementation of A2SD+ or older version of A2SD+ or A2SD+ in general causes battery drain ?
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FroYos A2SD was nice but I needed much more space and was trying A2SD+ with various ROMs as well as manual use on HTC ROMs. Endless problems such as very remarked, consistent sluggishness in basic functioning, total boot and app load slowness, including high, persistent background CPU and IO loads and very poor SD card transfers over USB and WiFi made me sack it. I lost a class 4 16GB Kingston SD card with errors inside 2 months. I transfer 2-4GB in/out daily and many transfers started failing. Widgets bugged out frequently when you needed them most and had to be all re-setup. Video record and playback became dis-able. The phone became useless except as a toy. That's not what I bought it for but as a helpful companion. I eliminated everything in question. It was simply the SD card [over]use compared to internal memory. This: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7025105
Would be great if you could link us to the location mod
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I simply typed the command through adb but:
http://www.androidpit.com/en/androi...deandroid.modil/Mod-Install-Location-For-Root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=778738
Even though I used this, I still have select applications not on the SD card upon learning that they worked far more consistently and properly with lower power and CPU usage when using internal memory. Trial, observant monitoring, and error.
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I have been reading of a lot of threads about how to save battery life..
here's what I done:
1. gps off
2. auto kill w/ advanced task killer
3. screen brightness at low
4. sleep screen after 15 seconds
I have got my desire for a few months and battery life has been bugging me. I understand that modern big touchscreen will drain the battery as compared to normal phones. Using a custom rooted rom atm.
I unplugged the phone at 12:00 with data on (push, auto-sync, etc), when i woke up at 7:00, I'm getting 73% of battery life. Charged it to full again and unplugged it at 8:30. My phone the phone shutdown by itself at 21:30. It's a little bit more than 13 hours of battery.
Is it me or everyone else is getting the same number? I just installed setcpu and see how it goes.. please tell me if there's any other way to preserve more battery!
I think it partly depends on which ROM you are using. I am currently using a new ROM (which I LOVE) but I've noticed that my battery life has decreased quite a bit. It can be kind of a trade off. I love the ROM so much that I'm not going to change it but it works ok for me because most of the time, I am somewhere where I can charge my phone if necessary.
Just found this thread which might help. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755903&highlight=battery+usage I'm going to try it and see if it helps.
- ROM?
- Display on time?
- Cell/WiFi on time?
- Chrome2Phone (or similar) running?
- Any battery widgets running?
- Any social networking apps/widgets running?
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..overall the battery lifetime is not as good as we would like it - but its a general smart phone problem - anyway I charge my device once per day...who cares?
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- ROM?
- Display on time?
- Cell/WiFi on time?
- Chrome2Phone (or similar) running?
- Any battery widgets running?
- Any social networking apps/widgets running?
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- ROM? Rooted Official Taiwan froyo rom httx://bit.ly/bSUVWV
- Display on time? sorry, how can i find this?
- Cell/WiFi on time? no wifi, cell/data apn on all the time
- Chrome2Phone (or similar) running? Android Notifier
- Any battery widgets running? None
- Any social networking apps/widgets running? 1. Friend stream (facebook and twitter) 2. Extended controls 3. HTC Notepad
Do you think it might be android notifier? it's set to send every event..
What's the average battery life with cellular data on?
My battery life is also quite shocking, also lasts for approximatly 13 hours under normal use, but if it is in standby then I'd say it lasts for 20 hours.
under normal use:
no 3/2g mode, just wifi
leedroid 2.2a
occasional games
occasional call (like 1 in 10 hours)
1~2 messages
btw you can find display on time in 設定->關於手機->電池->喚醒時間
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My battery life is also quite shocking, also lasts for approximatly 13 hours under normal use, but if it is in standby then I'd say it lasts for 20 hours.
under normal use:
no 3/2g mode, just wifi
leedroid 2.2a
occasional games
occasional call (like 1 in 10 hours)
1~2 messages
btw you can find display on time in 設定->關於手機->電池->喚醒時間
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thanks for the tip 現在安心了..
standby time around 3 hours
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thanks for the tip 現在安心了..
standby time around 3 hours
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np
and your current battery status?
(sorry I type faster in Eng XD been away from TW for like 9 years now...wanna go back TT)
Do a full typical usage discharge from full to near off and see what the battery stats in that section read for Display, Cell, Phone idle and anything other (tap each one for hours and percentage).
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Do you think it might be android notifier? it's set to send every event.
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I'm not familiar with the app but I am with FB and such and their widgets. Any app/widget polling at high frequencies like per second or per minute produces a high additional average drain which cuts runtimes, especially standby efficiency. That includes monitoring apps.
Do you have the battery widget chosen in Extended Controls, or the auto-brightness?
What's the average battery life with cellular data on?
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I can't say because supposedly, mine is well above average. It depends critically on usage and setup, too. 24-42hours with 5-9h display on and WiFi/2G always on is quite the norm on mine. Put to sleep (standby), it doesn't drop 1% until 6-9 hours. There's many many threads every week about this now. And I have many updating widgets and auto syncs running, just nothing to do with social networking since I've completely deleted from my phone.
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19 hours 40 minutes
Standby 35%
Phone idle 32%
Android system 17%
Voice call 5%
Display 5%
Maps 4%
Dialer 2%
I am on 3g/hsdpa
Sorta new to the forum.
Just got me a HTC Desire. Rooted running CM6.0.2
If i baby it, i get maybe 6am-2pm. Heavy use, its done before noon. Ouch
Standby is ok, i left it off the charger last night and I lost 25% over 10.5hrs.
Ive got 1 twitter app on a 5min refresh. Weather is on 1hr. Screeen is down around 15% brightness. setcpu is on 245min, 998max, scaling on demand an a screen off profile of 245.
I have no idea what more I can do to get more then half a day out of it without just not using it lol.
Im pretty new to Android and all this rooting/rom stuff so maybe Ive got something screwy. I also tried a second battery from a friend, no change.
set that friends widget to longer than 5 mins and the weather widget to every 3 or 6 hours. i bet you that will get you alot more time.
Made the switch but cant see it making that much of a change.
Any other suggestions?
Hi there,
I'd love to hear about your battery performance. It seems to differ so much between useres that it's really strange. Maybe we can also find out which apps/widgets are too heavy on the battery.
I''m currently using SGBS Rom 2.5 stock.
My average performance is barely a day with moderate use.
I'm using:
- two E-Mail accounts, one with push
- HTC friendstream widget
- HTC google calender widget
- Google News widget
- display brightness set to the halfpoint
- some hours of WLAN a day, always on with mobile internet
- a little surfing, SMS
that's it. With this user behavior I now got about 25 hours out of my batter. Display is 28%, Phone inactivity is 21%, standby is 16%, WLAN is 13%, Mail is 11%, Phone is 7%, calls are 4%, Android OS is 3%.
I deactivated most of the syncs, push is active for my main active E-Mail, the other one is every 15 minutes. Rest is "once per day" or not at all, HTC sync is deactivated.
Is this performance normal? Any ideas? I'd say it's ok but there are people out there claiming they get 48 to 72 hours out of their phone with moderate use. That's quite a difference.
Thank you!
Battery performance differs from user to user and rom to rom. Some roms will run better than other roms and it also depends on what the user has installed on their phone. If you have a fair amount of widgets or just stuff that runs in the background then your battery life will be worse than other people's. CPU frequencies and governors can also come into account.
So, what's the best way to find out what influences your battery life most? I know there are those stats which I posted but they really don't help that much, do they?
The stats you gave fluctuate too much. The main thing is to keep an eye on your apps. See which apps are running in the background, see how much memory they're using. Widgets are another thing to be careful of. I don't use widgets, just the one since I'm on sense, but having lots can impact battery life. You can try and use an auto run app which allows you to stop apps automatically running on startup.
Try not to use live wallpapers and screen brightness.
Punched in..
I charge it every 24 hours on the average - goes from 100% to 30%. A few phone calls, some emails. Not heavy on messages. Some Internet once in a while. Needs an extra recharge on days when GMaps or GPS or Angry Birds come into play.
Have seen some improvement from Stock Froyo HTC ROM to (over the last week or so) AOSP (Redux2 Test Builds).
Ok then, new stats. I got about 10 hours now with an active time of almost 2 hours and I'm a 70%. Had a short phone call, emails, that's it. Rest was just idling over night.
Main battery culprits at the moment:
Mail 30%
WLAN 19%
Standby 14%
Phone inactivity 13%
Display 11%
Calls 8%
Phone 4%
Android OS 3%
My App Stats:
Options 15MB
Maps 6MB
Calender 9MB
CSPeopleSyncsService 3,9MB (?? no idea what that is)
Google Services 8,9MB (no idea either)
Mail (5,4MB)
Sense 4,3 MB
Market 3,7MB
Mail (again) 6,6MB
152 in use, about 200 free.
Widgets:
Calender
Friendstream
Weatherclock
Google News
Any idea?
So first report regarding the new radio. It definitly works fine with SGBS, can't say yet if batter life really is better:
I'm now down to 68% after 15hours. At least 8 hours of those are flight mode over night. WLAN was active the whole time. Display is the main battery culprit, Telephone "inactive" is right next to it. Then WLAN with about 18%, then Handset standby with 16%.
So I obiously don't know what thelephone "inactive" means, that's still pretty high. But I think handset standby is a little lower. So maybe the radio helped with that?
BTW, I used the music player yesterday for about 40 minutes. And had a short GPS test (works fine with new radio) so I guess 70% after 15 hours is ok...
Hey guys ive done a similar thread on this a while back but this is a bit different now the issue here is when my phone from 100% all the way to 90 % battery is awesome like so damn good. but when it hits 89% it starts draining quite quick the main drainage is when i put the phone in sleep mode it drains. like i had my phone at 85 % left it for exactly 5 minutes and it dropped to 84%. Ive tried every rom/ kernel out there..nothing has helped or changed. I took it to the warranty they said its a software problem and that didnt fix anything. i have BBS and Kernel wakelock since boot is "wlan_rx_wake" maxing out at 2.6 % the others are just power manager service , etc. Partial wakelock since boot is AudioOut_2 stricking at a 17.8% max. And all the others are NetworkLocationLocator. Currently on Pheonix Rom (Debloated ALOT!!,awesome rom) and Note2core since Pearseus gave me lag issues.
Most battery issues are caused by:
1. antenna transmitting
2. screen time
3. processor load
Troubleshooting should start from the simplest things (Before you replace a motherboard/power-supply, make sure the computer is plugged into the socket, etc). Look at apps that use the network (Google Now, Google Local, Google Maps, Google Mail, Google Calendar, Google Contacts, Google Photos, Picasa, Instant Upload, Exchange ActiveSync, Samsung Backup, Weather Widget, Weather & News and whatever app you decide to install, ie: Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, Viber, Skype, WhatsApp, etc) and make sure you disable or at least change the app's setting to update less frequently.
Make sure you use automatic brightness and feel free to lower the bar around 50% when full screen brightness is not really required.
Make sure you don't have some app constantly running in the background (You can see this from the Battery menu, the phone shouldn't be 'Awake' most of the time when the screen is off).
I manage to get ~15-20 hours out of one charge, with 4-6 screen hours and all of the apps I mentioned above (with proper sync settings, of course).
Thats cool but i really wanna know why from 100 to 90 battery is awesome but then it start sucking up
Do I have wake locks problems? =(
no those look fine.
a wake lock issue will show around 90% of uptime as awake.
your looking around 11%.
The reason its ace from 100 to 90 percent is that to hit 100% you have to over volt a lithium based battery. this is why most chargers switch to trickle around 90%.
so it confuses the battery monitor as its in a way (as the battery level indicator uses voltage to indicate charge) more than 100%
the battery is a 3.8v battery, but between 90 and 100 percent it is at around 4.6v and dropping so until it hits below 3.8v (100%) it drops very slowly.
Now that i turned off Google Now and ticked off all 3 settings under GPS, I rarely lose a percentage when the screen is off. [I lose 1% overnight] With that said, I feel the total opposite. I feel like phone gets stronger as the percentage goes down. Try doing what I did and let us know what happens.
But why does mine drain so quick..people get like 20 minutes of on screen time per 1 % i get like 3 minutes if im lucky..
boodies said:
Now that i turned off Google Now and ticked off all 3 settings under GPS, I rarely lose a percentage when the screen is off. [I lose 1% overnight] With that said, I feel the total opposite. I feel like phone gets stronger as the percentage goes down. Try doing what I did and let us know what happens.
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Lost 10% overnight..,i keep most of my stuff really off but it still drains..
bluetooth off
nfc off
GPS off
My google now is on however i dont use it that much..does that really effect your battery ?
Yeah Aus, try turning Google Now off. I personally think it's extremely overated. It keeps track of your location so it will "try" to use gps even if it's turned off. I think just by the program waking the device"trying" to use the gps is wasting precious battery. Let me know how that goes.
ps - obviously I dont have bt and nfc on at all times because I have no use for them myself. but my wifi and 3 emails are constantly on and syncing 24/7
ps 2- I used to lose 10% overnight just like you but I had Google Now and all 3 GPS settings ticked on.
I'm surprised no one has mentioned it yet:
It's a battery gauge. It doesn't actually show 100% of the time the correct %. It could be not calibrated correctly (shouldn't need to, either). I actually spend a lot of time from 100-80%. Then it drops rather quickly! I hardly ever spend any time below 60%, so I'm sure it's just my battery reporting what it THINKS is the correct battery life %.