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Hi guys,
I have to say, compared to my HTC Hero and Modaco 3.2 rom, the battery life on the Desire seems pretty poor to say the least.
Do you have any tips? I know there are mixed views on task killers but whats the general consensus? Seems like every app that gets opened, seems to stay open forever or atleast open in the background on this thing. Is that good or bad?
Does the Gmail app which is push based I believe consume less battery than say the HTC Mail app used to sync about every half an hour?
Have you discovered any particular HTC apps that drain more battery than normal?
I've already disabled Facebook and Friendstream completely, use seperate apps for those.
It just feels like the battery eats away even when the phone is just sat there with the screen off, sure I have 3G on but Twicca is the only thing set to update every half an hour in the background and the Gmail app on push no doubt.
Any tips?
pretty sure if u slightly decrease the brightness of the screen and stop all data connections unless you want to run them will help the battery life
disable live wallpapers
disable auto updates
disable 3G (just for the sake of trying)
decrease the brightness or make it auto (dont put it to the max)
put plain black wallpaper as background (trust me it consumes 40% less than the colored wallpaper, again, do it just for the sake of trying)
try this for one day and see if you get anything different
I have the brightness set really low, don't use live wallpapers.
I would disable 3G but that kind of defeats the purpose of having twitter updates and stuff, one of the main features of the phone.
Just checked and Twicca is only set to update once an hour, this is really weird.
Arthur Hucksake said:
I have the brightness set really low, don't use live wallpapers.
I would disable 3G but that kind of defeats the purpose of having twitter updates and stuff, one of the main features of the phone.
Just checked and Twicca is only set to update once an hour, this is really weird.
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I saw somewhere that you can see what app is draining your battery life in the notification bar, just open the notifications bar and go to battery, and see if you find anything related there
I have the phone for 3 days and I'm still in the stage where I play with it all the time.
Day 1: fully charged at 1PM, used the phone pretty much non-stop till 10PM and finally plugged it in with 3% left;
Day 2: unplugged the phone at 8AM, had it in stand-by for couple hours, then used it non-stop for 2 hours, then 4 more hours of stand-by, then it 2 hours continous use. The rest was more or less stand-by. Plugged it in at 10PM with around 10% left.
Day3: used it quite a bit on and off during the day, still have 34% left.
I don't do any fancy power saving, though I don't like apps updating themselves, except for mail. However, I use WiFi when I can and I listen to podcasts whenever I walk/drive somewhere.
It's a bit too early to draw conclusions, but at this point I'd say that Desire's battery life is much better than G1's (I had 1600 mAh battery).
Of course it all depends on particular use case. Also, maybe the network is spotty in your area - that might drain a lot of battery.
I've heard some people say they get 3 days out of their desires and others saying they get just over a day.
This thread it would be great to collect a list of people with desires and their average battery life as well as a list of apps they have installed and widgets on display and maybe the rom they are using.
Just trying to work out
I'm going to collect data and put something up tomorrow - but I noticed last night that my battery went down really quickly when my Alarm went off (using Gentle Alarm) I also confirmed this using JuicePlotter which showed the battery sharply decrease just at the same time in which my alarm was set to go off.
I also noticed that having wifi turned on didnt seem to effect battery life that much...
Yeah my battery lasts really well leaving WI-FI on too. Not sure why others have an issue with it.
My battery will last a day tops turning on from 7.30 and off again around 12am ish
During day I will use Seemic (on manual update) and use FB on net every now and then.
May occasionally go to the Market for Updates.
I only use mobile Network when I need to so I turn off and on when required.
I will play Word Up and Solitaire for 30 -40 mins a day roughly.
Battery % will vary between 65 - 45 by 6.30 pm
Today it is down to 75% at 2.10pm - although I've not played any games today so far.
I bought an X10 and returned it because the battery wouldn't last even a day despite having all kinds of task-killing crap installed.
Then I bought a Desire and had the same problem - 6, maybe 7 hours of battery.
I found a post on some obscure blog that helped me track down the culprit: there are apps that don't let the device go to sleep completely. I had two of them. And Android (at least the HTCs) have a built-in function to see exactly what those processes are:
From the dialer: *#*#INFO#*#*, choose Battery History from the menu and then Partial Wake Usage. Nothing should have more than a tiny fraction of a bar. But on mine, Grooveshark was using 99%. I uninstalled it, tried again a few hours later and saw that Mikandi was using 99%. I uninstalled that, and now I'm getting more than 24 hours of heavy use.
Some apps just don't behave.
Why would Dialer App have such a high network usage?
It shows up as using a lot of network!
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Why would Dialer App have such a high network usage?
It shows up as using a lot of network!
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Why would Dialer App have such a high network usage?
It shows up as using a lot of network!
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Wouldn't the dialer use the network to call people when you dial?
Thanks for the "cheat code" on the hidden menu. Very interesting.
I can sometimes squeeze 2 days out of my battery. I'll only get a day and a half on this charge though because of lots of txting and facebook use.
I found this menu option in Settings > "accounts & sync" > Background Data. I turned this off and seem to get a little more battery.
Changing the brightness down a bit helps, and i'll set the screen timeout to lower as its at 1 minute now. Plus If I use friend stream instead of the facebook widget then it updates when I want to and doesnt keep active.
Least amount of battery time i've had is a day. I never turn my phone off.
I never get a full day out of mine, maybe 8-10 hours max... I have no idea how some people claim 3 days, I'm not exactly a power user!
Stock ROM (not a provider one, just generic) on T-Mobile UK network
Wi-Fi and GPS off
Widgets: Standard Flip Clock, SMS, FriendStream, Stocks (2hr update), Agenda, News (2hr Update)
Market Programmes: K9 Mail (1Hr e-mail updating), ES File Explorer, Shazam, Voice Search, Pkt Ebay, Tricorder, UK TV Guide, GBCoid
In Standby (screen off), not using web, not calling, not texting, not using apps, I lose around 10% per hour, faster if anything at all is on.
Oddly, despite the very poor (for me anyway) standby life, in call life seems really good, I made a call last night for an hour, where phone was in the orange phase when I started and still hadn't gone red at the end...
Pauly
I wanted to try turning background data off but sadly the market does not work when you have this turned off (a warning pops up when you try)
dieselboy said:
Wouldn't the dialer use the network to call people when you dial?
Thanks for the "cheat code" on the hidden menu. Very interesting.
I can sometimes squeeze 2 days out of my battery. I'll only get a day and a half on this charge though because of lots of txting and facebook use.
I found this menu option in Settings > "accounts & sync" > Background Data. I turned this off and seem to get a little more battery.
Changing the brightness down a bit helps, and i'll set the screen timeout to lower as its at 1 minute now. Plus If I use friend stream instead of the facebook widget then it updates when I want to and doesnt keep active.
Least amount of battery time i've had is a day. I never turn my phone off.
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True re the dialer. Was thinking network as on net use.
anyone got background data or mobile data turned off?
if so whats your battery life like?
also anyone tried with 3G on and compared to GSM ONLY?
awestenb said:
I bought an X10 and returned it because the battery wouldn't last even a day despite having all kinds of task-killing crap installed.
Then I bought a Desire and had the same problem - 6, maybe 7 hours of battery.
I found a post on some obscure blog that helped me track down the culprit: there are apps that don't let the device go to sleep completely. I had two of them. And Android (at least the HTCs) have a built-in function to see exactly what those processes are:
From the dialer: *#*#INFO#*#*, choose Battery History from the menu and then Partial Wake Usage. Nothing should have more than a tiny fraction of a bar. But on mine, Grooveshark was using 99%. I uninstalled it, tried again a few hours later and saw that Mikandi was using 99%. I uninstalled that, and now I'm getting more than 24 hours of heavy use.
Some apps just don't behave.
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Well the only app that have a bigger bar is Android System... Is this normal?
Settings ; About phone ; Battery ; Battery use and it will tell you when it was last unplugged and what has been using it.
4h 27m
Cell standby - 45%
Phone idle - 45%
Wifi -7%
Android system - 5%
Display - 2%
Obviously you can see from that I've hardly used it. A few texts, checking email periodically. Display brightness is on full, weather update is set to manual. Only have a few apps installed. Main one being data counter widget.
2000kb wifi
780kb cell.
Oh, and SystemPanel, tells me I have 93%.
Switch off 3g when you don't need it,this can nearly double your standby/idle time ,use a 2g-3g toggle if its a pain.
Juice defender with its plotter can give you very useful info on when your phone is using its battery the most.
On idle with 2g 1% per hour is normal, with 3g 2-4 %.
As soon as that screen goes on start thinking 15-20% per hour!
Most smart phones are the same,my x1 ,touch pro all got caned when I first got them,but a bit of experience and a few tweaks later they were doing 3-4 days.
Also flatten it and fully charge it when switched off helps too.
My battery life is pitiful too, im a pretty light user now ive had time to play with the phone for a while but battery will always need to be put on charge by around 10pm when only unplugged around 7am the same day.
I bought up the partial wake usage list and UID followed by a number is using twice the power of Android System.
Does anyone know what the UID is?
My battery life was rubbish until i updated the radio version to 32.37.00.32U_4.06.00.16_2. I am also using MCR3.1
Before my battery life would be fully discharged within 7 hours. Now i have 1day+ Not too sure as i now have a brodit car mount that charges my phone during my commute.
PeteT said:
My battery life was rubbish until i updated the radio version to 32.37.00.32U_4.06.00.16_2. I am also using MCR3.1
Before my battery life would be fully discharged within 7 hours. Now i have 1day+ Not too sure as i now have a brodit car mount that charges my phone during my commute.
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To update, do you need to root your device? I don't want to root mine, but I want to get the best battery life possible.
I;'m now using the beta version of Juice Defender
and i've disabled always on mobile data
will let u know how i get on
Ok I'm now onto day 2 using the desire with the following settings
Juice Defender Beta with Ultimate Juice
- wifi on all the time when in known location
- APN / WIFI off when screen is off
- APN off between 0:00 and 6:30
Always on Mobile data turned off (via networks)
Removed al unneccesary widgets (using ADW Launcher) - currently not using any widgets that sync content
Gmail set to only sync 1 days worth of content
Calendar Sync turned off
Contact Sync turned off
--- Usage -----
Approx 2 hrs worth of calls
1hr watching MP4 videos
browsing the web approx 30mins
checking marketplace - 10mins
replying to emails (approx 20)
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Currently the battery is at 46%
Was 100% on Wednesday 5pm 2nd June 2010
If it makes it through the night I'll be very happy - will report back
im getting somewhere between 38 - 48 hrs on a charge, no task manger installed with wifi and gps enabled.
Tiger33 said:
Ok I'm now onto day 2 using the desire with the following settings
Juice Defender Beta with Ultimate Juice
- wifi on all the time when in known location
- APN / WIFI off when screen is off
- APN off between 0:00 and 6:30
Always on Mobile data turned off (via networks)
Removed al unneccesary widgets (using ADW Launcher) - currently not using any widgets that sync content
Gmail set to only sync 1 days worth of content
Calendar Sync turned off
Contact Sync turned off
--- Usage -----
Approx 2 hrs worth of calls
1hr watching MP4 videos
browsing the web approx 30mins
checking marketplace - 10mins
replying to emails (approx 20)
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Currently the battery is at 46%
Was 100% on Wednesday 5pm 2nd June 2010
If it makes it through the night I'll be very happy - will report back
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Stating the obvious, but if you don't use your phone, your battery will last a long time!
Personally I need to use my phone (otherwise why would I have bought it) so have push email running with full Exchange sync 8 till 8, FB & Twitter syncing once an hour, spend a couple of hours a day making calls, connect to WiFi using my iPass account whenever a hotspot is available and spend a lot of time dealing with emails etc.
I put my "less than a day" battery life down to the fact that my screen is on and doing stuff for much of that time.
Of course if I just leave the phone on the desk at the side of me and don't touch it all day, even with push mail and all that sync, if the screen is not turned on much, I get 2 days.
It's the screen that eats the battery. The more it is on, the shorter the time between charges.
Wow I don't understand how you people get such amazing battery life!
I am no noob anymore regarding Android and Smartphone's in general, so I understand most 'hints & tricks' in this thread. But simply for me this does not work.
Some important stuff:
- I ALWAYS have 2G on, never 3G.
- I use wifi at home and in most places I go
- I have almost everything set to 'manual' updating
Ok.
For example my last situation:
I unplugged it at 23.30 yesterday. I used it for a little bit, over wifi. Checking twitter, surfing the web, watching some video's in HTC Flash Player. I went to bed around 02.00, watched some Law & Order that's why it was so late. So before turning off the lights, I turned wifi off. The battery was around 80-85%, from what I remember.
I wake up at 12.00. The battery was still above 50%, that's for sure. I do some facebook, twitter, news, etc. All over wifi.
And now, just before 17.00, my battery was dead (while I almost typed this entire story on my Desire -.- I was pissed). So that means, about 17 hours? Which about 10 hours I slept and the phone was doing nothing, over 2G!
So yeah... and when I read all your story's about 2 days (48 hours) I am really like: WTF
Some more details:
-No live-wallpaper. Just the black 'carbon' one.
-I used to use LauncherPro beta, but battery life was just as bad. Now I am back on HTC Sense. I have some widgets, like the Calander widget, a small music widget, bookmarks widget, etc.
-I tried to find out what uses the most battery while sleeping with that code and it showed Android System. So nothing weird there.
-Again, everything set to MANUAL updating
-ONLY 2G.
-Brightness set to auto.
So really, I think it's my wifi that sucks the battery life out of my Desire. I remember when I went on a trip and was just 'listning' to music, my battery only dropped like 10 to 15% in 3 hours.
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Btw, I remember that this 'some people have great battery life some people don't' story was the same with the HTC HD2. The only different thing there was that I was one of the people with the 'good' battery life. Now I am on the 'losers' team
Any help would be great!
I know you guys might be tired of these threads but I thought I might as well post this.
My desire is fairly new(Less than a week) and so far its been good apart from(What I though) battery life. i've been trying to improve it and I think I might have "some" progress.
Currently I'm running DeFrost 4.9 with HAVS @ 1137(4.9a) kernel with the very latest radio, I also use only 2G networks(No 3G here). I got two Gmail accounts but only one has sync(The other one is merely for Google checkout CC purchases), I got one Facebook account set to sync every hour as well as LP Facebook widget also set to sync every hour. I also got FancyWidget syncing weather every 3 hours. Apart from these I got Nimbuzz running 24/7 in background. The battery is calibrated and yesterday I did a complete discharge/recharge.
Now I plugged it off the charger 2 hours ago, it was at 100 according to spare parts. The brightness is at 2%. I did some lite browsing, browsed a bit with Tapatalk Pro and 40 minutes ago went to a market nearby. During my trip to market I had Google Navigation turned on navigating me(During both, the trip to the market and return). Now while making this post the battery is at 81%. Does it sound right?
Dragooon123 said:
I know you guys might be tired of these threads but I thought I might as well post this.
My desire is fairly new(Less than a week) and so far its been good apart from(What I though) battery life. i've been trying to improve it and I think I might have "some" progress.
Currently I'm running DeFrost 4.9 with HAVS @ 1137(4.9a) kernel with the very latest radio, I also use only 2G networks(No 3G here). I got two Gmail accounts but only one has sync(The other one is merely for Google checkout CC purchases), I got one Facebook account set to sync every hour as well as LP Facebook widget also set to sync every hour. I also got FancyWidget syncing weather every 3 hours. Apart from these I got Nimbuzz running 24/7 in background. The battery is calibrated and yesterday I did a complete discharge/recharge.
Now I plugged it off the charger 2 hours ago, it was at 100 according to spare parts. The brightness is at 2%. I did some lite browsing, browsed a bit with Tapatalk Pro and 40 minutes ago went to a market nearby. During my trip to market I had Google Navigation turned on navigating me(During both, the trip to the market and return). Now while making this post the battery is at 81%. Does it sound right?
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How much time the display was on? How much time was the GPS on?
Be careful, don't be happy before time. I did the recalibration too, and found that my phone would turn itself off at ~20% remaining battery.
venkig said:
How much time the display was on? How much time was the GPS on?
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During the navigation, about 5 minutes for display, 40 minutes GPS during which I went into a building for 10 minutes and it probably lost signal then.
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OK, this ain't good. I slept at around 2 AM with 29% battery life. In the morning(10:30 AM) it was dead(0% battery).
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OK, this ain't good. I slept at around 2 AM with 29% battery life. In the morning(10:30 AM) it was dead(0% battery).
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Sound about right. 8.5 hours with your facebook and other syncs. I don't see any problems at all. Mine does this too.
Dragooon123 said:
OK, this ain't good. I slept at around 2 AM with 29% battery life. In the morning(10:30 AM) it was dead(0% battery).
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First, in the night put the phone in airplane mode (I dont think u need to check ur facebook )
Second, check if u have useless programs that are using cpu in background, if is this the case UNINSTALL that program and CONTACT the developer. We dont need to kill those kinds of app, we just have to UNINSTALL if an app doesn't work properly, untill the developer will fix it. If all people will do like me, the market will full of great apps
I don't think I have any useless stuff running in the background. All I got are 2 widgets(Facebook and Twitter) syncing every 1 hour and 3 hours respectively, one Fancy Widget fetching weather and Gmail push for one account. Is their a way I can check all the services running in the BG?
EDIT : Forgot to mention Nimbuzz running 24/7.
ljesh said:
Be careful, don't be happy before time. I did the recalibration too, and found that my phone would turn itself off at ~20% remaining battery.
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Agree... before I used to see 1% but after "calibration" now it shuts down itself at 8~9%
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Dragooon123 said:
OK, this ain't good. I slept at around 2 AM with 29% battery life. In the morning(10:30 AM) it was dead(0% battery).
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I won't rehash all of what has been heavily discussed by now in much greater depth, like in the FroYo Battery Usage thread. But auto sync with such social applications and you set yourself up for low battery runtime to begin with. Especially with a constant polling IM and/or battery widget running too. Don't expect much.
Anyway, I don't use them but weather, stocks, 5 mail accounts and news is set to auto-sync every 15 minutes and WiFi is always running if available. Last discharge as soon as I connected charger ended at:
http://bit.ly/c6R59G
http://bit.ly/bmM9oN
http://bit.ly/cMlnun
http://bit.ly/akPvr7
I slept twice for 7-8 hours each on that charge and it includes all of my daily usage including listening to 127 minutes of MP3 via headphones with the screen off.
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Hmm Wi-Fi + Nimbuzz really screws up the battery . Last night I turned off the Wi-Fi and slept for 8 hours. I had 46% battery before and in the morning I had 40%. I also have disabled Auto-sync for Twitter/Facebook widget and Facebook app. Now the only running services I got are Gmail push, FancyWidget weather and Nimbuzz.
th3 said:
I won't rehash all of what has been heavily discussed by now in much greater depth, like in the FroYo Battery Usage thread. But auto sync with such social applications and you set yourself up for low battery runtime to begin with. Especially with a constant polling IM and/or battery widget running too. Don't expect much.
Anyway, I don't use them but weather, stocks, 5 mail accounts and news is set to auto-sync every 15 minutes and WiFi is always running if available. Last discharge as soon as I connected charger ended at:
http://bit.ly/c6R59G
http://bit.ly/bmM9oN
http://bit.ly/cMlnun
http://bit.ly/akPvr7
I slept twice for 7-8 hours each on that charge and it includes all of my daily usage including listening to 127 minutes of MP3 via headphones with the screen off.
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How did you manage to get such good battery life? Your phone lasted for over a 32 hours period which included 6 hours of display. And that too with stocks and News syncing every 15 minutes. Does Nimbuzz really screw you that much?
th3 said:
I won't rehash all of what has been heavily discussed by now in much greater depth, like in the FroYo Battery Usage thread. But auto sync with such social applications and you set yourself up for low battery runtime to begin with. Especially with a constant polling IM and/or battery widget running too. Don't expect much.
Anyway, I don't use them but weather, stocks, 5 mail accounts and news is set to auto-sync every 15 minutes and WiFi is always running if available. Last discharge as soon as I connected charger ended at:
http://bit.ly/c6R59G
http://bit.ly/bmM9oN
http://bit.ly/cMlnun
http://bit.ly/akPvr7
I slept twice for 7-8 hours each on that charge and it includes all of my daily usage including listening to 127 minutes of MP3 via headphones with the screen off.
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Well now datz some good battery. Which ROM are you using? Which Radio are you using?
I don't have any account/social networking syncing. Don't use wifi more than 20 mins a day. Brightness 20%. NO GPS. No Bluetooth. No stupid application sucking battery's power. If my screen is off I lose about 3-4% for a period of 5 hours, so no app sucking the battery in the sleep mode.
If i use EDGE when the battery is Full for about an hour I get battery drain of 20%
Would love to know more details on which ROM, Radio and your settings.
OK. There's not much I can say except what other guys who know better than me said here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743172
It's all usage/config/settings dependent. There's no secret sauce. Some setups and usages last shorter than others, yet further, some drastically shorter.
Firstly, I don't change something working well nor move from a setup until I've worked with it the best I could. The ROM I use daily is HTC 2.2 with root. The radio is some old one that worked perfect for me: 32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20. I can give you some details so you can characterize the battery performance on mine better.
- H.264 sub 2.5Mbps 800*480 video playback at 18% brightness lasts 5.5-6.5h with about 15% remaining. This has been repeated more than 50 times since March.
- My average runtime used to be 13-18h since March but I knew something was wrong and drawing more juice than necessary. I kept looking (mainly at the logs). It took me months to figure out it was a few things including my build.prop WiFi/cell settings, A2SD+, my GMail install, battery widgets, eBuddy, Titanium Backup, Chrome2Phone, Pure Calendar/Grid widgets and my 3G baseband reception. Some app versions were buggy and constantly polling and returning random errors in the background. I had to eliminate them one by one.
I rectified such problems entirely and removed all the unnecessary apps installed which I rarely used. I had to revert back to FroYos A2SD with the install location mod. That took me to todays battery runtime which I'm very happy with. Chrome2Phone for instance could stay installed and be disconnected when not in use to avoid the large background drain it caused.
- I run personalized colour calibration with lowered overall luminance but more red and green with less blue sub-pixel luminance. Very near D6500 whites. I also keep most apps and my homescreens dark when and where possible. I disable button LEDs through a widget when not required (much).
- 24-39h is the norm for me in typical usage. Among much else that always includes a few short calls, some YouTube, some StreetView, some TapeMachine (audio record), some Scan2PDF, some Aldiko, some Chrome2Phone and Fox2Phone, some Tapatalk browsing, some XDA app browsing, some Quick App Clean Cache, some SpringPad, some Adobe PDF, max 15mins of MP3 playback, heavy net and NewsRoom browsing, 150-250 emails and messages and constant sync with what I listed priorly. Always 2G though, and whenever I reach areas I know have bad or no reception (causing high drain) that I'll be staying at for more than 10mins, I disable cell (frequently). I've nurtured the habit of putting the phone in standby after every use too.
- 6-9.5h display on aggregate is the norm for me. I use lowest brightness possible or 18% typically. 50% in very bright, direct summer sunlight. Just now the battery ran out after 26 hours with 9.2h display on, 13.5h cell on and 22h WiFi on.
- I have apps I consider junk removed: Facebook, Footprints, etc. The lot. So no sync or auto running for them or their widgets in the background. I also removed the base GMail because logs showed me it carried on running sync all the time even when not set to. I forced the latest GMail APK in and it has no such problems. I removed all battery widgets installed except one since they drain heavily.
- Heavy usage like GPS, lengthy calls, video recording and playback cuts the runtime down drastically which should be conspicuous. I can drain the battery fully in 5h with everything max and running.
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In contrast, I lose 1-2% over 8-10hours in standby, maximum, with WiFi on. Usually 1%.
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Thats some damn battery life you have there. You are on a Sense ROM? Do you actually use Sense? If so you're either exaggerating or I'm a total fool(I'd prefer the latter).
I've been trying to fine tune the battery, currently I'm using DeFroST 4.9 with SVS 998Mhz @ 1275mv kernel with 17_2 radio. Re-calibrated the battery yesterday and compiled a custom wi-fi module containing fixes for sleep disconnection today morning.
I left it at night around 3 AM with 99% battery, turned off the Wi-Fi/EDGE but kept mobile on. In the morning(Around 9:30AM) I was at around 91%. Gave it a quick charge to 100 till around 11:15 AM. Disconnected it and from 11:20 to about 11:40/45 AM I had quite a heavy chat session over Nimbuzz with my friend. My battery went from 100 to 94% in that time. After that I pretty much left it, picked it up to check a mail once or twice and sent a few messages over Nimbuzz. It is 1:40AM now and I'm down to 89%. All of this was over Wi-Fi, GPS off, Bluetooth off, no tethering no nothing. I got no Facebook/Twitter auto-sync. Only FancyWidget(every 3 hours) and Gmail Push. Brightness is at 2%(Although even then it is a bit bright, maybe it is just me).
I am using Extended control widget to see the power percentage.
th3 said:
OK. There's not much I can say except what other guys who know better than me said here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743172
It's all usage/config/settings dependent. There's no secret sauce. Some setups and usages last shorter than others, yet further, some drastically shorter.
Firstly, I don't change something working well nor move from a setup until I've worked with it the best I could. The ROM I use daily is HTC 2.2 with root. The radio is some old one that worked perfect for me: 32.43.00.32U_5.09.00.20. I can give you some details so you can characterize the battery performance on mine better.
- H.264 sub 2.5Mbps 800*480 video playback at 18% brightness lasts 5.5-6.5h with about 15% remaining. This has been repeated more than 50 times since March.
- My average runtime used to be 13-18h since March but I knew something was wrong and drawing more juice than necessary. I kept looking (mainly at the logs). It took me months to figure out it was a few things including my build.prop WiFi/cell settings, A2SD+, my GMail install, battery widgets, eBuddy, Titanium Backup, Chrome2Phone, Pure Calendar/Grid widgets and my 3G baseband reception. Some app versions were buggy and constantly polling and returning random errors in the background. I had to eliminate them one by one.
I rectified such problems entirely and removed all the unnecessary apps installed which I rarely used. I had to revert back to FroYos A2SD with the install location mod. That took me to todays battery runtime which I'm very happy with. Chrome2Phone for instance could stay installed and be disconnected when not in use to avoid the large background drain it caused.
- I run personalized colour calibration with lowered overall luminance but more red and green with less blue sub-pixel luminance. Very near D6500 whites. I also keep most apps and my homescreens dark when and where possible. I disable button LEDs through a widget when not required (much).
- 24-39h is the norm for me in typical usage. Among much else that always includes a few short calls, some YouTube, some StreetView, some TapeMachine (audio record), some Scan2PDF, some Aldiko, some Chrome2Phone and Fox2Phone, some Tapatalk browsing, some XDA app browsing, some Quick App Clean Cache, some SpringPad, some Adobe PDF, max 15mins of MP3 playback, heavy net and NewsRoom browsing, 150-250 emails and messages and constant sync with what I listed priorly. Always 2G though, and whenever I reach areas I know have bad or no reception (causing high drain) that I'll be staying at for more than 10mins, I disable cell (frequently). I've nurtured the habit of putting the phone in standby after every use too.
- 6-9.5h display on aggregate is the norm for me. I use lowest brightness possible or 18% typically. 50% in very bright, direct summer sunlight. Just now the battery ran out after 26 hours with 9.2h display on, 13.5h cell on and 22h WiFi on.
- I have apps I consider junk removed: Facebook, Footprints, etc. The lot. So no sync or auto running for them or their widgets in the background. I also removed the base GMail because logs showed me it carried on running sync all the time even when not set to. I forced the latest GMail APK in and it has no such problems. I removed all battery widgets installed except one since they drain heavily.
- Heavy usage like GPS, lengthy calls, video recording and playback cuts the runtime down drastically which should be conspicuous. I can drain the battery fully in 5h with everything max and running.
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Whoa ! Amazing post there. This should keep me occupied for quite some time to figure out what the heck is going on with my battery. The battery life what you are getting is really good and that is what everybody should get provided they figure out what the heck is sucking their battery that bad. Lotsa things and apps you have said drains the battery is on my phone and I haven't even started looking at logs in detail. Itz been only couple of weeks since I have this phone so I'll defn start looking into this issue.
Few questions
1. What issues did you have with your build.prop?
2. What battery widget are your currently using ?
3. You have mentioned A2SD+ also is a battery drain, was it a particular ROM's implementation of A2SD+ or older version of A2SD+ or A2SD+ in general causes battery drain ? Would be great if you could link us to the location mod
OK, It is 7:05 PM now and I am down to 70%. Nimbuzz was on all the time along with Wi-Fi(Although I don't know what happened but it switched to EDGE as if it lost Wi-Fi connectivity, Wi-Fi wasn't disabled, just disconnected). And I pretty much haven't touched it since 1:40 PM. Not as good as I hoped, but still kind of decent.
And my Wi-Fi strength isn't that great either, it is either 1 or 2 bar out of 4.
Well, I haven't done any such kernel modifications intentionally. Never had any need to either. 14.5h since last charge now, cell on 5h, WiFi on 12.5h, display on 2h and 76% remaining (actually, those stats were collected and written an hour back). The Desire display has been verified to consume at least 70% of the total device power when the screen is on. So you can't get more hours with display on if it didn't run as such.
It's HTCs ROM so of course it is using Sense. I can't do without most HTC added goods in Sense. Let alone the Mail, Bookmarks, Calendar, Stocks, Copy/Paste, Lookup, Clock, Gallery and Camera apps and widgets. The widgets I depend on work well only on the HTC ROMs I've tried. The missed Sense goodness combined with the bugs and problems I had on AOSP ROMs were extremely problematic so I moved back. Even my video recording and native playback is much better on this ROM.
To be frank, you've hardly had the phone so you'll learn much more yet. And it comes through search->reading->experimenting first. 1-2 weeks is too little for even figuring out most of the basics, unless you're moving from a similar phone and OS. For one, you'll need to actually read the linked thread to see what many observed and experienced. It took me and many others 6 months to learn things and get to this stage. Every other day I was testing and monitoring. But be aware that you can't, for instance, have the exact same setup and usage as me to have the same resultant battery life.
Had you read the linked thread you'd also be aware by now that bugs were filed for inaccurate % readings by Androids Battery Usage section. However, its time tracking was reliable in my testing.
- On your typical full discharge, how much time and % is listed under Display on?
- And for cell?
- Which A2SD are you using?
- Static wallpaper/color?
- Animation settings?
- Location on?
- Network location errors in logcat?
- Cell network chosen auto or manual?
- Did you mention all the widgets on all homescreens?
- OSMonitor/CurrentWidget values in idle screen on and idle screen off?
I use EC and SwitchPro widgets too but their battery widgets (like you mentioned) are known as ones with high consistent drain. The EC dev also corroborated this in its thread under the Themes section.
The 'idle' drops you get don't make sense to me unless there's fundamental hardware/software activity you haven't properly monitored and logged. Even kernel and I/O usage in the background. You'd be surprised at the difference one buggy underlying feature can make.
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If you're actually asking those questions, here goes. Note, I am at 66% and the time is 8:56PM. And after this I'm gonna nandroid this ROM and try SuperVillainHD just for the kicks. Also, can it be that since the phone is relatively new, the battery is not up to its full potential?
Q1, 2) Battery usage is :
Display: 35% (35m 37s)
Wi-Fi: 20% (9h 44m 22s)
Cell standby : 15% (9h 44m 22s)
Phone idle: 14% (9h 9m 42s)
Android system: 6% (CPU Total: 9m 35s, CPU Foreground: 27s, Data sent: 7.82KB, Date received: 11.38KB)
Nimbuzz: 4% (CPU Total: 6m 46s, CPU Foreground: 2m 54s, Data sent: 298KB, Data received: 851KB)
Android OS: 3% (4m 1s)
Voice calls: 2% (45s)
Q3) I'm using DeFroST ROM with A2SD+
Q4) Yes, I'm using a static wallpaper
Q5) Animations is set to : All animations
Q6) GPS is disabled, if that is what you mean.
Q7) How can I check this and what would it show?
Q8) Didn't touch this, so I'm presuming Auto.
Q9) I'm not sure, so here goes. I got a Twitter widget, Facebook widget, both are set for manual syncing. Got FancyWidget syncing every 3 hours and several harmless icons. I got 3 bars of Extended Control widget and a google search widget
Q10) I don't have those, are they available in market? Do they consume battery?
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1. What issues did you have with your build.prop?
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I'll have to open the file for that to check exactly the changes I made. I didn't really follow anyone, just went off my own understanding and intuition. If I try to access the dir or open the file whilst the phone is not in Recovery, it'll force a reboot so I'll give more details later on this when I'm near a PC.
2. What battery widget are your currently using ?
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Just this: http://bit.ly/cNQUVd
3. You have mentioned A2SD+ also is a battery drain, was it a particular ROM's implementation of A2SD+ or older version of A2SD+ or A2SD+ in general causes battery drain ?
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FroYos A2SD was nice but I needed much more space and was trying A2SD+ with various ROMs as well as manual use on HTC ROMs. Endless problems such as very remarked, consistent sluggishness in basic functioning, total boot and app load slowness, including high, persistent background CPU and IO loads and very poor SD card transfers over USB and WiFi made me sack it. I lost a class 4 16GB Kingston SD card with errors inside 2 months. I transfer 2-4GB in/out daily and many transfers started failing. Widgets bugged out frequently when you needed them most and had to be all re-setup. Video record and playback became dis-able. The phone became useless except as a toy. That's not what I bought it for but as a helpful companion. I eliminated everything in question. It was simply the SD card [over]use compared to internal memory. This: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7025105
Would be great if you could link us to the location mod
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I simply typed the command through adb but:
http://www.androidpit.com/en/androi...deandroid.modil/Mod-Install-Location-For-Root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=778738
Even though I used this, I still have select applications not on the SD card upon learning that they worked far more consistently and properly with lower power and CPU usage when using internal memory. Trial, observant monitoring, and error.
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I have been reading of a lot of threads about how to save battery life..
here's what I done:
1. gps off
2. auto kill w/ advanced task killer
3. screen brightness at low
4. sleep screen after 15 seconds
I have got my desire for a few months and battery life has been bugging me. I understand that modern big touchscreen will drain the battery as compared to normal phones. Using a custom rooted rom atm.
I unplugged the phone at 12:00 with data on (push, auto-sync, etc), when i woke up at 7:00, I'm getting 73% of battery life. Charged it to full again and unplugged it at 8:30. My phone the phone shutdown by itself at 21:30. It's a little bit more than 13 hours of battery.
Is it me or everyone else is getting the same number? I just installed setcpu and see how it goes.. please tell me if there's any other way to preserve more battery!
I think it partly depends on which ROM you are using. I am currently using a new ROM (which I LOVE) but I've noticed that my battery life has decreased quite a bit. It can be kind of a trade off. I love the ROM so much that I'm not going to change it but it works ok for me because most of the time, I am somewhere where I can charge my phone if necessary.
Just found this thread which might help. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755903&highlight=battery+usage I'm going to try it and see if it helps.
- ROM?
- Display on time?
- Cell/WiFi on time?
- Chrome2Phone (or similar) running?
- Any battery widgets running?
- Any social networking apps/widgets running?
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..overall the battery lifetime is not as good as we would like it - but its a general smart phone problem - anyway I charge my device once per day...who cares?
th3 said:
- ROM?
- Display on time?
- Cell/WiFi on time?
- Chrome2Phone (or similar) running?
- Any battery widgets running?
- Any social networking apps/widgets running?
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- ROM? Rooted Official Taiwan froyo rom httx://bit.ly/bSUVWV
- Display on time? sorry, how can i find this?
- Cell/WiFi on time? no wifi, cell/data apn on all the time
- Chrome2Phone (or similar) running? Android Notifier
- Any battery widgets running? None
- Any social networking apps/widgets running? 1. Friend stream (facebook and twitter) 2. Extended controls 3. HTC Notepad
Do you think it might be android notifier? it's set to send every event..
What's the average battery life with cellular data on?
My battery life is also quite shocking, also lasts for approximatly 13 hours under normal use, but if it is in standby then I'd say it lasts for 20 hours.
under normal use:
no 3/2g mode, just wifi
leedroid 2.2a
occasional games
occasional call (like 1 in 10 hours)
1~2 messages
btw you can find display on time in 設定->關於手機->電池->喚醒時間
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My battery life is also quite shocking, also lasts for approximatly 13 hours under normal use, but if it is in standby then I'd say it lasts for 20 hours.
under normal use:
no 3/2g mode, just wifi
leedroid 2.2a
occasional games
occasional call (like 1 in 10 hours)
1~2 messages
btw you can find display on time in 設定->關於手機->電池->喚醒時間
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thanks for the tip 現在安心了..
standby time around 3 hours
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thanks for the tip 現在安心了..
standby time around 3 hours
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np
and your current battery status?
(sorry I type faster in Eng XD been away from TW for like 9 years now...wanna go back TT)
Do a full typical usage discharge from full to near off and see what the battery stats in that section read for Display, Cell, Phone idle and anything other (tap each one for hours and percentage).
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Do you think it might be android notifier? it's set to send every event.
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I'm not familiar with the app but I am with FB and such and their widgets. Any app/widget polling at high frequencies like per second or per minute produces a high additional average drain which cuts runtimes, especially standby efficiency. That includes monitoring apps.
Do you have the battery widget chosen in Extended Controls, or the auto-brightness?
What's the average battery life with cellular data on?
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I can't say because supposedly, mine is well above average. It depends critically on usage and setup, too. 24-42hours with 5-9h display on and WiFi/2G always on is quite the norm on mine. Put to sleep (standby), it doesn't drop 1% until 6-9 hours. There's many many threads every week about this now. And I have many updating widgets and auto syncs running, just nothing to do with social networking since I've completely deleted from my phone.
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19 hours 40 minutes
Standby 35%
Phone idle 32%
Android system 17%
Voice call 5%
Display 5%
Maps 4%
Dialer 2%
I am on 3g/hsdpa
Sorta new to the forum.
Just got me a HTC Desire. Rooted running CM6.0.2
If i baby it, i get maybe 6am-2pm. Heavy use, its done before noon. Ouch
Standby is ok, i left it off the charger last night and I lost 25% over 10.5hrs.
Ive got 1 twitter app on a 5min refresh. Weather is on 1hr. Screeen is down around 15% brightness. setcpu is on 245min, 998max, scaling on demand an a screen off profile of 245.
I have no idea what more I can do to get more then half a day out of it without just not using it lol.
Im pretty new to Android and all this rooting/rom stuff so maybe Ive got something screwy. I also tried a second battery from a friend, no change.
set that friends widget to longer than 5 mins and the weather widget to every 3 or 6 hours. i bet you that will get you alot more time.
Made the switch but cant see it making that much of a change.
Any other suggestions?
Hi guys,
I'm all new to Android, having previously used the TG01, moving to DHD is such a right decision and honesty think i may not use winmo ever again.
However, I notice something weird (or at least I think it is) one of which is my free Ram at boost is only 3xx Mb. Considering I have 768 Mb RAM, am I supposed to have around 700 Mb at boot??? or is that the way Android work??. Also note that I use Advanced task killer to see that number since I don't know where to know my available free Ram (noob?). Do you guys have the same amount of Free Ram at boot?
Lots of apps like yahoo messenger, internet browser.. which I do not how to properly close them (I press either home or back keys). They keeps running in the background and even after using advanced task killer to close them, they are amazingly still there. Do I suck or again is it how Android works.
Also, after 3 full charging cycle, unplugging at 7 am, having around 30 mins gaming, wifi on all the time but sometimes not connected, 3g all the time, Yahoo messenger running in background, some mails (not automatically syncs), messages, calls and about half an hour web surfing, it rests in peace at 4.30 pm. Is it normal or Do I have faulty battery. Forgot to mention I set back light at 30%.
Again, if the thread duplicates please accept my apology. I did do some search but have not found info I need. I'm all new to android so any help would do.
Cheers,
Hi,
This is how Android works. Task killers are a waste of time, your phone will use more resources just loading the apps back into memory.
As for the battery, do you need to keep wifi on all day? There is your problem. Turn it off.
Try JuiceDefender from the Android Market. You will certainly notice a battery improvement using it.
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Hi,
This is how Android works. Task killers are a waste of time, your phone will use more resources just loading the apps back into memory.
As for the battery, do you need to keep wifi on all day? There is your problem. Turn it off.
Try JuiceDefender from the Android Market. You will certainly notice a battery improvement using it.
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Thanks for your help
Removed task killers and installing Juice Defender, hope to see improvement there.
Well,the DHD in all its awesomeness is always gonna miss one thing:Good battery life.Not because it sucks much power or something,but the battery is the smallest I've seen on a high-end device,and,considering the huge screen(which uses from 60% up to 85% of the battery),it won't do really well.However it's not so bad either!I for one,after some charging cycles(I have it about a month now)get much better battery life.Taken off charge at 8am,usage varying depending on the day(eg I don't use it much at school),I still have enough battery at night(around midnight)to play some games for a while and listen to music.Brightness is always full!Can't accept lower with this screen!
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Well,the DHD in all its awesomeness is always gonna miss one thing:Good battery life.Not because it sucks much power or something,but the battery is the smallest I've seen on a high-end device,and,considering the huge screen(which uses from 60% up to 85% of the battery),it won't do really well.However it's not so bad either!I for one,after some charging cycles(I have it about a month now)get much better battery life.Taken off charge at 8am,usage varying depending on the day(eg I don't use it much at school),I still have enough battery at night(around midnight)to play some games for a while and listen to music.Brightness is always full!Can't accept lower with this screen!
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No No Noooooooo
With JuiceDefender activated, wifi on occasionally, 3G and Yahoo messenger all the time, 1 hour game, about 30 mins calls and some text, my phone was dead after 10 hours.
Really depressed, I read in battery thread this trick:
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The official battery trick from HTC tells us to first charge 8 hours or more, then 1 hour while off, boot and let it settle for two minutes, turn off and charge another hour.
I'm on the fourth day since i've done this. After i did this, i deactived all appkillers (advanced taskkiller i.m.c.). Letting the system balance itself as quoted in one of my earlier posts.
I'm on the fifth day after calibration now and have 35% left after 21 hours since last plugin. I didn't turn off anything. I can see through current widget log it's still been very active from -3ma till -30ma in standby, no spikes though. For now i'm getting increased batterlife.
Default phone battery monitor results
Juice left 35%
Screen 39%
Mobile standby 20%
Phone inactive 18%
Speach 7%
Wifi 7%
Android system 4%
Android OS 3%
com.htc launcher 2% (Even though a lot of apps still loaded in BG)
Does anyone try that one?? Does it really improve your battery life (i do not understand the logic though)
keep in mind also, 250mb of ram is dedicated to adreno as vram, so the device only has just over 500mb of usable ram
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No No Noooooooo
With JuiceDefender activated, wifi on occasionally, 3G and Yahoo messenger all the time, 1 hour game, about 30 mins calls and some text, my phone was dead after 10 hours.
Really depressed, I read in battery thread this trick:
Quote from santu001
The official battery trick from HTC tells us to first charge 8 hours or more, then 1 hour while off, boot and let it settle for two minutes, turn off and charge another hour.
I'm on the fourth day since i've done this. After i did this, i deactived all appkillers (advanced taskkiller i.m.c.). Letting the system balance itself as quoted in one of my earlier posts.
I'm on the fifth day after calibration now and have 35% left after 21 hours since last plugin. I didn't turn off anything. I can see through current widget log it's still been very active from -3ma till -30ma in standby, no spikes though. For now i'm getting increased batterlife.
Default phone battery monitor results
Juice left 35%
Screen 39%
Mobile standby 20%
Phone inactive 18%
Speach 7%
Wifi 7%
Android system 4%
Android OS 3%
com.htc launcher 2% (Even though a lot of apps still loaded in BG)
Does anyone try that one?? Does it really improve your battery life (i do not understand the logic though)
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Be patient young Padawan!
On my Diamond(good old days...well,maybe not so good! )the situation was about the same and it took the battery a little more than a month to give me its full potential.This might be the case here too.Don't judge it just yet.Except it's faulty of course!
Anyway,there is always a chance that a badly coded app is doing something nasty with your device.You might want to install system panel(very useful app,both one of the best task killers I've used and a really good system monitoring app) from market.It will show you if any app is using your ram or cpu too much.If one does,try uninstalling it and see what happens.
Hope you solve your problem!