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[Q] FireTV low on storage

Can anyone please help me to clean up some of the storage on the FTV as I only have 0.5 Gb free from the available 5.5 ?
I tried using ES file explorer's SD card analyst tool but i can only see 1.5 Gb ocupied. I don't know how to clean up the rest to 5.5 gb.
I think the cache is not user available on thsi device.

adionita said:
Can anyone please help me to clean up some of the storage on the FTV as I only have 0.5 Gb free from the available 5.5 ?
I tried using ES file explorer's SD card analyst tool but i can only see 1.5 Gb ocupied. I don't know how to clean up the rest to 5.5 gb.
I think the cache is not user available on thsi device.
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You have XBMC on there? The thumbnail directory can get large with a big library.
You can delete it, but unless you find do an alternate location, it's going to rebuild. You can find the thumbnail location on the XBMC wiki. There's also a thread here about changing the advancedsettings.xml to store them on a USB mounted share. You can also store them on a central server which is what I do.

KarlP said:
You have XBMC on there? The thumbnail directory can get large with a big library.
You can delete it, but unless you find do an alternate location, it's going to rebuild. You can find the thumbnail location on the XBMC wiki. There's also a thread here about changing the advancedsettings.xml to store them on a USB mounted share. You can also store them on a central server which is what I do.
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i deleted the thumbnail directory but there is still another 3gb that i cannot find using es file explorer. I think the FTV builds it's cache somewhere else than the sdcard and i cannot seem to find it.

adionita said:
i deleted the thumbnail directory but there is still another 3gb that i cannot find using es file explorer. I think the FTV builds it's cache somewhere else than the sdcard and i cannot seem to find it.
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DIskUsage is a simple little app that works well on the Fire TV. Sideload it and use it to determine which apps are using all your storage. If you have apps with a lot of storage under "data", you can move that to an externally attached USB drive if you're rooted.

adionita said:
Can anyone please help me to clean up some of the storage on the FTV as I only have 0.5 Gb free from the available 5.5 ?
I tried using ES file explorer's SD card analyst tool but i can only see 1.5 Gb ocupied. I don't know how to clean up the rest to 5.5 gb.
I think the cache is not user available on thsi device.
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check (not sure of exact path but something like) sdcard0/.android/.estrong......./tmp where it caches sideloaded files if you installed apps using es explorer. (or wipe cache in es explorer maybe)

have you gone into settings in the Fire TV Home screen and looked at each applications cache? Photos had 375MB when I looked and I don't even use photos (probably for the screensaver I guess..)

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DIskUsage is a simple little app that works well on the Fire TV. Sideload it and use it to determine which apps are using all your storage. If you have apps with a lot of storage under "data", you can move that to an externally attached USB drive if you're rooted.
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Big thanks for the tip. I got diskusage and opened it. I have over 600MB of ace stream files visible in ES file explorer. After updating ES, I was able to right click on those files and delete them. I check Kodi in system and now back to 1.5G free space. Thanks again, as all the youtubes and other suggestions about thumbnails, cache, etc.... are a total waste of time, they will not solve the problem.

Need help

Even though i dont have any app installed my aftv says im running low on storage. On the setting menu i only have 470mb free. I already did a factory reset and wipe cache partition and wipe dalvik cache in CWM recovery, and reset to factory defaults on aftv settings.
Getting desperate as i cant sideload anything not even es file explorer...
Any ideas where i should look?

Hello, please anyone have any idea. Right now my aftv is useless even though its not bricked

Check xbmc thumbnails folder? I had an issue with it at one point, so I deleted the thumbnails folder in my kodi userdata folder which was huge and added an imageres tag in advanced settings file to 720 and let kodi rebuild thumbnails. I have several games installed and so far seems fine to me.
Look into that as a possible solution. If you have a lot of fan art and posters that could be eating up storage via thumbnails. I did try a path substitution for them at one point too, but I use a heavy skin and it was too slow to browse my media with the path subs for the thumbnails. Thinking of trying it again with another skin if I find one I like.
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ashmanmb said:
Check xbmc thumbnails folder? I had an issue with it at one point, so I deleted the thumbnails folder in my kodi userdata folder which was huge and added an imageres tag in advanced settings file to 720 and let kodi rebuild thumbnails. I have several games installed and so far seems fine to me.
Look into that as a possible solution. If you have a lot of fan art and posters that could be eating up storage via thumbnails. I did try a path substitution for them at one point too, but I use a heavy skin and it was too slow to browse my media with the path subs for the thumbnails. Thinking of trying it again with another skin if I find one I like.
Sent from my SM-G900T using Tapatalk
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Did using the advanced settings method greatly reduced the size of data for XBMC? Mines' well over a 1.5g and I'm looking at moving my data to an external drive purely because of XBMC. I did the stickymount/foldermount method using a flash drive, but it was insanely slow.
Can you share your advanced settings file?

I can post it later for you. I use a central media server for my files and a mysql library so my kodi database is not on my fire tv, but like I said my thumbnails folder was huge in the userdata folder, so I shrank it by deleting it and setting imageres tag to 720 and it regenerated the thumbnails to a smaller size. I proved speed on my skin which is xeebo.
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ashmanmb thanks for your reply but the problem is that of this moment my aftv has zero apps installed.
In the last few weeks i started getting the low storage message and i had xbmc, netflix and some other apps installed. Even after uninstalling and reinstalling i still got the message. Then a few days ago xbmc streams started getting a full cache in the beginning message.
So i thought i'm doing a factory reset through CWM recovery. After doing that i was stuck in a loop where it would go to the amazon logo and back to recovery. As suggested by rbox i updated my aftv version. After the update it went smoothly to the homescreen but with the same storage space (470mb). Back to recovery i did another factory reset and the storage space the same. I tried wipe cache partition, wipe the dalvik cache and even reset to factory default inside the aftv settings. I still have the same space. And the problem is i cant install any app like es file explorer to look for any files that may be occupying space.
So as if now i cant determine the problem...

Do you have any ROM files pushed and sitting after any upgrade? Do you have any backups done in CMW?
Look up the "du" command that you can run from shell (if rooted, can be run from root). Might need Busybox installed, not sure...
http://www.linfo.org/du.html
Eg: du -a / | sort -n -r | head -n 50
This gives you a top 50 hogs in your system. Read up on that and it should be a good starting point. I didn't search for scripts, but I am sure there are some good ones out there. There is also a "find" command, which might help you.

Dbdoshi thanks for your help
Will try tomorrow when i get home. If busybox is needed im in trouble because i can't install anything.
I'll let you know tomorrow
Thanks

[Q] How to free up space on amazon fire tv?

Hi all,
I rooted my fire tv. i downgrade firmware and installed CWM, install rbox bootloader, then upgrade pre-rooted firmware by rbox. Now when i check under setting --> system -> about i see 3.61gb free space from 5.49gb available space. I don't have a lot app installed in my rooted fire tv so i didnt think what i have installed would taken up 2gb. Here is what i have installed.
Google play store, kodi, llama, es file explore, busybee box, supersu, chrome, firefox and the whatever was required to gain root access, upgrade and downgrading firmware and whatever app is pre-installed from pre-rooted firmware.
Is there way to check which apps and files are taking up the most space and how do you free up space?
Also, does this sound right that only 3.59gb is left. At one point during my root process when i was pushing update.zip file thru adb to downgrade firmware, it took a very long so i exit out of adb (i simply click on "x" bar to close the connection) and started again but i am not sure maybe i installed update.zip file 2x. How do i check? How do ensure i don't have any unnecessary file on fire tv internal drive.
Thank you

I have 3 FireTVs, all rooted and they have between 3.0G to 3.4G free space so I say your free space is within reasonable range

lowbee said:
I have 3 FireTVs, all rooted and they have between 3.0G to 3.4G free space so I say your free space is within reasonable range
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hi thanks for posting back. Makes me feel better but still out of 8gb user only has 3.5gb, not ideal. i wonder where did the 5gb go.
I am curious to hear from others to see how they cleaned up space, if there are any methods.

I'd have to say kodi might be the culprit taking a lot of space with excessive data storage.
Anything similar to xbmc can be a resource hog for storage.

ashsha7877 said:
hi thanks for posting back. Makes me feel better but still out of 8gb user only has 3.5gb, not ideal. i wonder where did the 5gb go.
I am curious to hear from others to see how they cleaned up space, if there are any methods.
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You don't get 8GB of usable space. I think it is only about 5GB. So you are using about 1.5 GB for apps. Not too bad if you are running Kodi.

An easy way to check where files are taking up space is to use the "sdcard analyze" function in esfile explorer. Its under the tools section. Also, with esfile explorer, you can push files from your phone to the firetv pretty easy too. Select whatever file you want to send on your phone, under options choose send, and make sure esfile explorer is open on the firetv too. The firetv prompts you for where you want to save the file.

ashsha7877 said:
Hi all,
I rooted my fire tv. i downgrade firmware and installed CWM, install rbox bootloader, then upgrade pre-rooted firmware by rbox. Now when i check under setting --> system -> about i see 3.61gb free space from 5.49gb available space. I don't have a lot app installed in my rooted fire tv so i didnt think what i have installed would taken up 2gb. Here is what i have installed.
Google play store, kodi, llama, es file explore, busybee box, supersu, chrome, firefox and the whatever was required to gain root access, upgrade and downgrading firmware and whatever app is pre-installed from pre-rooted firmware.
Is there way to check which apps and files are taking up the most space and how do you free up space?
Also, does this sound right that only 3.59gb is left. At one point during my root process when i was pushing update.zip file thru adb to downgrade firmware, it took a very long so i exit out of adb (i simply click on "x" bar to close the connection) and started again but i am not sure maybe i installed update.zip file 2x. How do i check? How do ensure i don't have any unnecessary file on fire tv internal drive.
Thank you
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You can free up quite a bit by pushing these advanced settings to
<advancedsettings>
<pathsubstitution>
<substitute>
<from>/storage/emulated/0/Android/data/org.xbmc.xbmc/files/.xbmc/userdata/Thumbnails/</from>
<to>/storage/usb/drive1/xbmcthumbnails/</to>
</substitute>
</pathsubstitution>
</advancedsettings>
You need to amend to kodi instread of xbmc if you're running 14.0 or higher AND my external is mounted by adbFire mount drives persistent. If you're using stickmount it would be sda (forget exact path?)
Once pushed and confirmed working, all your thumbnails will dissapear. Just go into userdata/database and delete textures13. Then restart xbmc.
Afterwards I also delete the thumbnails folder on internal. Oh yes...make sure you have a folder on external named xbmcthumbnails.
This should immediately clear about 600 mb and keep in mind you typically add more to your library so the amount it saves long term could be huge.

KLit75 said:
You can free up quite a bit by pushing these advanced settings to
<advancedsettings>
<pathsubstitution>
<substitute>
<from>/storage/emulated/0/Android/data/org.xbmc.xbmc/files/.xbmc/userdata/Thumbnails/</from>
<to>/storage/usb/drive1/xbmcthumbnails/</to>
</substitute>
</pathsubstitution>
</advancedsettings>
You need to amend to kodi instread of xbmc if you're running 14.0 or higher AND my external is mounted by adbFire mount drives persistent. If you're using stickmount it would be sda (forget exact path?)
Once pushed and confirmed working, all your thumbnails will dissapear. Just go into userdata/database and delete textures13. Then restart xbmc.
Afterwards I also delete the thumbnails folder on internal. Oh yes...make sure you have a folder on external named xbmcthumbnails.
This should immediately clear about 600 mb and keep in mind you typically add more to your library so the amount it saves long term could be huge.
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Is that going to make loading thumbnails A LOT SLOWER??

Neo3D said:
Is that going to make loading thumbnails A LOT SLOWER??
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That's actually a good question. I've been using these so long I don't have a memory of exactly how fast they loaded before. I'll say this--they populate fast enough for me to keep using them. I use usb 3.0. I think it's essential based on how big my library is and the fact I use aeon nox with additional fanart.
But, I'd be very interested in seeing if you or someone else sees a significant lag in load times. You can always delete the xml if you find it slow.
Just an fyi I got these from an xda member awhile back. Since then lots of people have tried them and so far I haven't hear complaints, but I'd still like feedback from someone who can compare.

Another suggestion is to pre-scrape all the necessary support files with a media manager of your choice (e.g. fanart, icon, content info, etc.) and switch to local info only on the scraper for the collection. It depends also on how you have your collection organized from a folder perspective.
I found this to be fastest and lightest on local storage (obviously because the "library" is already built) especially when you have a household of streamers. You have all the content centralized on your NAS already. It's silly for streaming box to build the library and re-download the content each time from the Internet (especially if your like me as a perpetual media player tinkerer).
Edit: For clarity, I mean a "Library manager." Look on the Kodi wiki for links to various clients on your preferred OS.

t3ch42 said:
An easy way to check where files are taking up space is to use the "sdcard analyze" function in esfile explorer. Its under the tools section. Also, with esfile explorer, you can push files from your phone to the firetv pretty easy too. Select whatever file you want to send on your phone, under options choose send, and make sure esfile explorer is open on the firetv too. The firetv prompts you for where you want to save the file.
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Good to know this. Are there any other setup steps required to be able to do this? Or do you just have es file explorer installed and opened on both phone and FTV?

RuKuS4Life said:
Good to know this. Are there any other setup steps required to be able to do this? Or do you just have es file explorer installed and opened on both phone and FTV?
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That's it. As long as the two are on the aame network, it should pick up the firetv as a target.
To clarify, on the phone, long click the file to send, and select send. The firetv ip adress will show up and allow you to send the file. When the prompt shows up on the firetv(provided that esfile explorer is the active and open app), accept the transfer and select tge location to store the transferred file.

t3ch42 said:
That's it. As long as the two are on the aame network, it should pick up the firetv as a target.
To clarify, on the phone, long click the file to send, and select send. The firetv ip adress will show up and allow you to send the file. When the prompt shows up on the firetv(provided that esfile explorer is the active and open app), accept the transfer and select tge location to store the transferred file.
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I got sdmaid. It recovered about 1.5gb. Get the pro version from google play.

[Q] Unexplained Consumed Memory

I bought this Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 SM-T210R for my mom its currently running kitkat 4.4.2 non rooted which I am about to fix here soon.
The problem is my mom hardly does anything on this facebook some books recipes and maybe 1 or 2 games and her church stuff and for some ungodly reason it keeps telling her she has low memory around 775mb left and it wont install anything else.
I put a 16gig sd in it for her and moved everything possible over to the SD cleared all the cache from all apps and have gone to the extent of restoring it to factory and it still keeps doing the same thing.
My only thoughts are root it with custom recovery and wipe it that way and reinstall the firmware but that is a extreme I would only do in a worst case scenario.
If anyone has any idea's I would appreciate it this isnt my first rodeo with android devices I am not a complete novice I have rooted my phones in the past including my current galaxy s4 so I am open for any and all ideas.
Thanks,
West

Need like 1 gig left on device on samsung device if that come from playstore.

nannaniel said:
Need like 1 gig left on device on samsung device if that come from playstore.
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Yea I am aware of that part my problem is I keep wiping the tablet and restoring to factory and within a couple hours it tells me it has full memory or low storage space again.
I went to the extent of deleting the non needed folders such as downloads images dcim etc and letting the system remake them assuming they were the culprits I also went into the Android\Obb
and also Android\Data and cleaned out the stuff that did not need to be there on my last factory restore.
And No matter what I do upon resetting back to factory the space gets consumed within a couple hours and that's only just browsing the web and clearing the cache when done.

W,
hi, if you have a large amount of pictures/video, it may be gallery
generating/regenerating thumbnails in /sdcard/DCIM/.thumbnails.
Check the size of that directory, if that's the case delete the directory and replace it
with a dummy file named .thumbnails an set it's permissions to read-only
i ask because if your moms got hymns etc. that are actually in an image format instead of text
those will have thumbnails, the same with some ebooks.
Replacing .thumbnails with a fake .thumbnails will only make gallery run a little slower.
Many apps do the same thing, generating images in hidden folders on your sdcard for caching ads etc.
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usbstorage not showing over smb

I just did a wipe/factory reset just to start clean and install funkyfresh samba sharing. It connected right away but my USB driven isn't showing on my network. Also my kodi "files" are hidden even though I enabled it in kodi.
Any help would be appreciated. For some reason my other aftv with identical setup doesn't have the same issue. It even has the same USB flash drive.
Also a heads up and maybe some clarification... before wiping I formatted my usb drive which was storing kodi thumbs and any apps aftv let me. But after install -r kodi it saved all settings except thumbs. There was no thumbnail folder on internal nor external. Deleting textures13db didn't restore it. I wound up doing a fresh start there so I don't need help but if there's an explanation it be good to know for future reference. I suspect I should've not erased the USB before wiping data on aftv?