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I have rooted my fire before using the method from this thread here. So I realized the main reason I wanted to root it was to get the marketplace. Now I know with 6.2.2 you could use "Superoneclick" then after installing the marketplace and changing permissions you could then use SOC(superoneclick) to "Unroot" the device and yet still keep the google market.
My question is, using the KF Utility for 6.3 by Teamwin, can you succesfully unroot the device and still keep the market like you could with 6.2 or has this ability been broken. As you can tell I have done some research and to no avail have found anyone saying how to unroot a 6.3 KF and yet still keep google market. Also, if this is possible is Google Play also possible and perhaps Google Books
Thanks (sorry if this is answered somewhere I did a search on the forum and didn't find anything to these specific items)
NOTE: I do know you can sideload apps but I heard sideloading the market is next to impossible without first rooting the device.
Scizzer85 said:
I have rooted my fire before using the method from this thread here. So I realized the main reason I wanted to root it was to get the marketplace. Now I know with 6.2.2 you could use "Superoneclick" then after installing the marketplace and changing permissions you could then use SOC(superoneclick) to "Unroot" the device and yet still keep the google market.
My question is, using the KF Utility for 6.3 by Teamwin, can you succesfully unroot the device and still keep the market like you could with 6.2 or has this ability been broken. As you can tell I have done some research and to no avail have found anyone saying how to unroot a 6.3 KF and yet still keep google market. Also, if this is possible is Google Play also possible and perhaps Google Books
Thanks (sorry if this is answered somewhere I did a search on the forum and didn't find anything to these specific items)
NOTE: I do know you can sideload apps but I heard sideloading the market is next to impossible without first rooting the device.
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just use the utility you used to root KFU and you can load the google apps with it
DJLamontagneIII said:
just use the utility you used to root KFU and you can load the google apps with it
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I understand that. I am trying to have the Google/Android Market be on the unrooted KF 6.3 OS. I would post the article but I don't have enough posts yet lol. The article is on Lilputing though. The article title is "How to sideload apps (even the Android Market) on the Amazon Kindle Fire". They are using SuperOneClick (which apparently doesn't work with 6.3) and in using SOC they quickly root the device, install the things they want, then unroot using SOC and keep everything.
My question is, is this possible on 6.3 using KFU or is SuperOneClick now supported for 6.3...
Yes you can. Root with KFU. Side load the market (google play) as a system app along with the Google framework and once every thing works download OTARootkeeper and install.
You can then unroot an re-root at will.
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bfayer said:
Yes you can. Root with KFU. Side load the market (google play) as a system app along with the Google framework and once every thing works download OTARootkeeper and install.
You can then unroot an re-root at will.
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Ok. Thanks. I have heard of OTARootkeeper but thought it just mimicked a Root/Unroot device. I didn't know if that would work with 6.3. I am surprised there isn't an article out there discussing my specific question. I thought it would be a common thing to ask. Thank you though I will give that a try.
Edit: I haven't done this just yet to test but my end goal was to have the KF unrooted and still have access to the android market. Using OTARk makes it seem like if I want the android market I just "quick root" it back to get it. I may be misunderstood what "root" really means when it comes to the KF.
Here is a better way of explaining.
1. Download Google play store and Googleservicesframework. Apk
2. Move the Google play store to system/apps
3. Install Googleservicesframework apk like a normal application.
4. Reboot your device
5. The play store should work. Now you may unroot your device.
Kindle Fire running CM9 Reloaded
New developer, working on my own custom rom
Daevionne said:
Here is a better way of explaining.
1. Download Google play store and Googleservicesframework. Apk
2. Move the Google play store to system/apps
3. Install Googleservicesframework apk like a normal application.
4. Reboot your device
5. The play store should work. Now you may unroot your device.
Kindle Fire running CM9 Reloaded
New developer, working on my own custom rom
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Thanks for all the help and clarifying. One last question. To unroot do you suggest using OTAKroot or is there a way to make a more "solid" unroot and yet still keep the play store? Again thanks for quick helpful responses everyone.
I suggest OTA root keeper. Its the only way I know to unroot your device. If you like the answer I gave you hit the "thanks" button
Kindle Fire running KANG CM9
New developer, working on my own custom rom
Daevionne said:
I suggest OTA root keeper. Its the only way I know to unroot your device. If you like the answer I gave you hit the "thanks" button
Kindle Fire running KANG CM9
New developer, working on my own custom rom
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Ok so I have everything done however it's not the exact result I was hoping/expecting. I was wanting the main stock look of the KF but with the market installed and working. Right now I have unrooted but am having trouble figuring out how to get back to my Amazon KF stock launcher and my Amazon Prime videos.
Edit: I can't figure out how to get to my Amazon bookshelf anymore. I have the Amazon App store and Kindle App from the market but how do I get back to the amazon bookshelf?
Scizzer85 said:
Ok so I have everything done however it's not the exact result I was hoping/expecting. I was wanting the main stock look of the KF but with the market installed and working. Right now I have unrooted but am having trouble figuring out how to get back to my Amazon KF stock launcher and my Amazon Prime videos.
Edit: I can't figure out how to get to my Amazon bookshelf anymore. I have the Amazon App store and Kindle App from the market but how do I get back to the amazon bookshelf?
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You have to clarify a bit more for me...
1. Is the play store up and working?
2. Did you download any custom launchers?
3. Did you download any custom lockscreens?
4. The steps you took were root, installed market, unroot, correct ?
Kindle Fire running KANG CM9
New developer, working on my own custom rom
Daevionne said:
You have to clarify a bit more for me...
1. Is the play store up and working?
2. Did you download any custom launchers?
3. Did you download any custom lockscreens?
4. The steps you took were root, installed market, unroot, correct ?
Kindle Fire running KANG CM9
New developer, working on my own custom rom
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Play store is working. I tried Go Launcher to see if I could get the Default Launcher through there. No lockscreens. It is currently with CM7 unrooted via OTA Rootkeeper. But when I rebooted after unrooting it I had the CM7 android interface still. Not KF default interface.
This video is what I essentially was trying to accomplish. He has the Launcher.apk but it seems to not work on CM7 or at least not 6.3. Right now, I can't get to the instant video screen or bookshelf at all...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q655g1RHgU
This video was from November, that was before 6.2 :/ I think this method is outdated... sorry
Kindle Fire running KANG CM9
New developer, working on my own custom rom
Scizzer85 said:
Play store is working. I tried Go Launcher to see if I could get the Default Launcher through there. No lockscreens. It is currently with CM7 unrooted via OTA Rootkeeper. But when I rebooted after unrooting it I had the CM7 android interface still. Not KF default interface.
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So you not only rooted but you installed a custom ROM.
That's a whole other story.
To get what you want you need to restore your original ROM from backup. Reroot with KFU. Side load the framework and market and unroot with OTA rootkeeper. You should have made a backup from restore before you installed CM7.
Do not repeat do not upgrade the kindle reader from the market if you wish to keep using the original launcher.
It would help if we knew why you wanted to be un rooted.
Rooting only gives you access to your file system. The only custom softwear you need is superuser. Unrooting with OTA rootkeeper just makes a backup of SU and then removes it. You can then watch movies etc. But when you need root back you just restore your SU backup in OTA rootkeeper.
Why do you need to permanantly unroot ?
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Since you are loading ROMs, I'd recommend MoDaCo rom. It's the closest to stock with the play store already added.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439916
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Keep stock, root, add SU, (and add go launcher if you want) Just add a shortcut to the kindle launcher. Unroot. Then you can switch back and forth. Simplest way.
I sideloaded the market app with file expert when I was happy with stock.
Though I don't know why you insist on unrooting.
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Since you are loading ROMs, I'd recommend MoDaCo rom. It's the closest to stock with the play store already added.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439916
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Keep stock, root, add SU, (and add go launcher if you want) Just add a shortcut to the kindle launcher. Unroot. Then you can switch back and forth. Simplest way.
I sideloaded the market app with file expert when I was happy with stock.
Though I don't know why you insist on unrooting.
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I guess I misunderstood what rooting really meant. So I can use KFU to root the device but after doing so DO NOT install CM7 and instead just sideload google market and once installed just use it to install any apps but at the same time since CM7 wouldn't be installed I would be seeing the basic interface from KF as it is stock?
Scizzer85 said:
I guess I misunderstood what rooting really meant. So I can use KFU to root the device but after doing so DO NOT install CM7 and instead just sideload google market and once installed just use it to install any apps but at the same time since CM7 wouldn't be installed I would be seeing the basic interface from KF as it is stock?
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Correct. You do not need to do anything after you root unless you want to. Everything on your KF will stay stock. I would recommend you flash a recovery (I prefer CWM) that way you can reload your backup if you need to. Whst I would do is root install firefirefire and CWM. Reboot to CWM and backup everything. Then load the framework and market. When you root make sure SU is properly installed before you move ahead. You will need a copy of root explorer or another file manager to make this all happen with the least pain.
Remember if you keep the stock launcher DO NOT update the kindle reader from the market. The stock KF reader is not the same as the market version but the market will see it as an old version and try to get you to update it.
I run both the stock launcher and go launcher. I keep a shortcut to the stock launcher on my go launcher dock and a shortcut to go launcher on my stock dock. I toggle between them as needed.
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bfayer said:
Correct. You do not need to do anything after you root unless you want to. Everything on your KF will stay stock. I would recommend you flash a recovery (I prefer CWM) that way you can reload your backup if you need to. Whst I would do is root install firefirefire and CWM. Reboot to CWM and backup everything. Then load the framework and market. When you root make sure SU is properly installed before you move ahead. You will need a copy of root explorer or another file manager to make this all happen with the least pain.
Remember if you keep the stock launcher DO NOT update the kindle reader from the market. The stock KF reader is not the same as the market version but the market will see it as an old version and try to get you to update it.
I run both the stock launcher and go launcher. I keep a shortcut to the stock launcher on my go launcher dock and a shortcut to go launcher on my stock dock. I toggle between them as needed.
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I followed everything except CWM. Is that something similar to KFU as far as how to root it or is that like the TWRP that I had before for recovery? And thanks for explaining all this.
It is like TWRP. A recovery program. I like it much better. But it does the same thing.
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Ok. After some tweaking I now have reset the device back to factory settings. Re-rooted, used CWM for backup/recovery. I used the MoDaCo and successfully installed the Google Play store. Installed OTA rootkeeper and used it to "temp unroot" my device. I was hoping this would give me access to the "Watch Now" on the Amazon Video but it still is greyed out. Truth be told, I got the month free of Prime for getting the KF but I probably won't continue to pay. Regardless, is that the only feature that I can't get with the rooted device? If so, then I am to say, happy for sure.
I am preparing my kindle fire to sell it. It was rooted using KFU but still uses the default home screen. I rooted it mainly to use google apps and get access to Google Play
I need to remove my google account and deregister with Amazon. Do I need to do anything else?
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Are you selling to a friend that wants Gapps or sending back to amazon/ someone who might cause a small explosion if they don't have stock amazon on the device? For the former I would suggest wiping the device using TWRP and flashing a fresh install of MoDaCo which comes with all of the fixings that one would need to enjoy kindle fire at its finest. For the latter, a good, old fashioned, factory reset will do everything you need
nschiwy said:
. For the latter, a good, old fashioned, factory reset will do everything you need
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It's going to my 12 year old niece. Root is not needed but would be nice for access to gapps and the Play Store.
I did the 'factory reset' and it left the bootloader alone. Will it still be rooted so I can sideload gapps after downloading them from my dropbox or sugarsync account?
Cen5
I'm not actually sure of that but do you have TWRP/FFF on your device or is it just rooted?
CenturionFive said:
I need to remove my google account and deregister with Amazon. Do I need to do anything else?
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Wiping cache, dalvik-cache and factory reset is enough.
Gapps will stay, but none of your information will be retained. It will stay rooted as well.
If you have FFF and TWRP installed, let them be. Otherwise, you may want to install them, even if you're not actively planning to use them - they are a nice extra layer of safety.
However, as it is the stock ROM, it is vulnerable to Amazon OTA updates, which do wipe TWRP, FFF and unroot (they may wipe gapps as well, I don't know about that). A preventive measure if you wanted to keep loyal to the stock looks would be to flash the MoDaCo custom ROM.
josepho1997 said:
If its for your niece, and if she wants Google Play, you could flash Modaco GR9. Its basically the Stock OS with Gapps. Or you could use KFU to flash Gapps, but it would be hard for here to find Google Play as it wont show app on the carasel(sorry about spelling).
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I second this- you can also get the marketopener.apk from here: http://munday.ws/kindlefire/MarketOpener.apk to get the button into the carousel
I'm sure this question has been asked before, but I had a hard time searching for an answer.
There aren't too many people out there looking to put apps designed for Kindle's UI on Jelly Bean.
I'll keep it brief:
- Rooted my GF's Kindle Fire
- Plan on flashing JB rom
- Want to port paid Amazon Kindle fire apps onto JB
For example: She purchased the game of Life app for her Kindle through Amazon's app store. If JB is flashed, will I be able to download that same app directly from Amazon's website onto her JB flashed Kindle? I don't know what compatibility issues I could run into, nor the easiest way to do it if at all possible.
Can I make an .apk and side load them onto JB? Amazon's Fire UI is built off Android 2.3 (GB), correct? Her Kindle is running 6.3.1.
Figured I'd ask before flashing the JB Rom... I backed up everything on her Fire, I just didn't want to go through the hassle of re-doing something if I didn't have to
Anyway, you guys are brilliant here - thanks for any help I might receive.
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I'm sure this question has been asked before, but I had a hard time searching for an answer.
Anyway, you guys are brilliant here - thanks for any help I might receive.
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It is hard to say for 100% about that specific app (Game of life). You can install the Amazon App store on Jelly Bean and you can install all the apps you have purchased onto any flavor of Android. It is already known that the Amazon Prime Video app will only run in a non rooted ROM based on the original install. If the app is one that is labeled as a "Kindle Table Addition" it may not run if your JB rom has been changed to represent as a Nexus or other tablet to gain more Google Play store exposure.
danscxda said:
It is hard to say for 100% about that specific app (Game of life). You can install the Amazon App store on Jelly Bean and you can install all the apps you have purchased onto any flavor of Android. It is already known that the Amazon Prime Video app will only run in a non rooted ROM based on the original install. If the app is one that is labeled as a "Kindle Table Addition" it may not run if your JB rom has been changed to represent as a Nexus or other tablet to gain more Google Play store exposure.
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This is what I was afraid of. I don't want to repurchase that app $5... Are there any apps available through Amazon's App Store that will allow me to create an .apk of that app so I can try and see if it works sideloading it onto JB?
Techno Tonis said:
This is what I was afraid of. I don't want to repurchase that app $5... Are there any apps available through Amazon's App Store that will allow me to create an .apk of that app so I can try and see if it works sideloading it onto JB?
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You could use Titanium backup to backup the app and restore it onto JB. If you already Rooted the KF you should have no problem loading TiBu.
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Another option you could try would be to dual boot between a JB rom and MoDoCo. MoDoCo has a alternative install version and you could dual boot between JB and MoDoCo (A rooted and tweeked version of the original KF install). I did this for a long time so that I could still use the Amazon Video player. I got tired of playing with JB and went back to a single install of MoDoCo with a new launcher. Once you get past the Amazon launcher and you have played with JB long enough to be content the Fire works pretty decently.
You wouldnt have to if you sign into the same amazon acount. i have some apps like quickoffice pro ($15)on my stock kf, then i rooted it flashed jellybean, then installed amazon appstore signed into my account, and quickoffice pro was there in my downloaded apps
right, but in this case I believe the question is about kindle fire specific apps. The ones in the Amazon App Store that are labeled "Kindle Fire Edition"
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You could use Titanium backup to backup the app and restore it onto JB. If you already Rooted the KF you should have no problem loading TiBu.
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Wow, why didn't I think of trying that... I should have.
I got impatient and installed JB. KF edition apps are not compatible.
I made backups of all the data that was on prior with TWRP... Is there a way to make a .apk with any of that data without re-installing KF?
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Another option you could try would be to dual boot between a JB rom and MoDoCo. MoDoCo has a alternative install version and you could dual boot between JB and MoDoCo (A rooted and tweeked version of the original KF install). I did this for a long time so that I could still use the Amazon Video player. I got tired of playing with JB and went back to a single install of MoDoCo with a new launcher. Once you get past the Amazon launcher and you have played with JB long enough to be content the Fire works pretty decently.
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I'll try dual booting with MoDoCo - how easy should it be to restore data with TWRP? I'm so used to CWMR that everything feels foreign.
So now i guess I plan on installing MoDoCo, restore the data from KF, side load TiBu, make backups of KF edition apps, boot into JB and restore KF apps there - is that sound logic, guys?
That process should work to get the apps installed on jb but there is still no guarantee that they will work. Try it and let us know how it turns out
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Sure enough if you just back up your app before you upgrade, then you can install them on JB. I just did it for three different kindle only apps. The odd thing is when I tried to install them through the app store, I was blocked. Now why would amazon deny a piece of revenue?
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MikeGolfW said:
Sure enough if you just back up your app before you upgrade, then you can install them on JB. I just did it for three different kindle only apps. The odd thing is when I tried to install them through the app store, I was blocked. Now why would amazon deny a piece of revenue?
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ok. I am kind of in the same boat as you. I changed to jellybean using Twa_Priv's CM10 MOD back in August, and for a while I was able to use KF-specific apps. I switched a lot between jellybean and stock, because there were some things that I liked about the Stock firmware. Anyway, I quit that, restored to factory, and installed the latest build at the time of Twa_Priv's ROM. I did not cloak it to resemble the Google Nexus or anything else, yet now I have a different amazon appstore, and it won't let me get KF apps. Unfortunately, I don't have the luxury of going back and using Titanium Backup to save any KF apps.
what do I do?
A friend of mine has the original kindle fire which doesnt have built in vpn support out of the box (tun). He doesnt want to do the router trick and is interested in switching software. I have been toying about with various other android devices but not the kindle' so:
It seems cm doesnt support kindle?
If not what would be a good choice in a stable rom for a non tinkering guy?
Couldnt i just replace the kernel on the original software and get proper vpn support?
Any help much appreciated
Edit: forgot to ask - i read somewhere that switching software will result in no streaming from amazon. Is that correct? I am wondering how little i could get away with. My friend basically just wants to get vpn working and prrhaps also google plsy and netflix access etc he does not care for tweaking og newer rom features
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A friend of mine has the original kindle fire which doesnt have built in vpn support out of the box (tun). He doesnt want to do the router trick and is interested in switching software. I have been toying about with various other android devices but not the kindle' so:
It seems cm doesnt support kindle?
If not what would be a good choice in a stable rom for a non tinkering guy?
Couldnt i just replace the kernel on the original software and get proper vpn support?
Any help much appreciated
Edit: forgot to ask - i read somewhere that switching software will result in no streaming from amazon. Is that correct? I am wondering how little i could get away with. My friend basically just wants to get vpn working and prrhaps also google plsy and netflix access etc he does not care for tweaking og newer rom features
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Yup, you're right; streaming video from Amazon will be non-op if you flash another rom onto the Kindle. IMO, if your friend doesn't want to tweak and play with his Kindle all of the time, you're better off just rooting / dual booting. That way you can get the Google Play store on the Kindle and put whatever Android app you want on. The tutorial I used was from Liliputing, which gives you root, a recovery boot loader, and gives you the option to install the Google apps: http://liliputing.com/2012/05/how-to-root-a-kindle-fire-with-software-version-6-3-1.html
FYI the stock Kindle will allow you to install apps out of the Amazon store, so if you *really* don't want to fuss with it... Download the APK of the VPN solution you want to try, transfer it to your Kindle, and then install it. Easy peasy.
If you want to go all in on the latest / greatest Android O/S, I recommend twa_priv's CM10.1 rom; it's one of the most solid / feature full Jelly Bean 4.2 roms I've seen, and features Hashcode's very excellent kernal. It was one of the first that I tried and I always come back to it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2051331
My mother's kindle keeps freezing on her for awhile now and now it seems to do it more and more. She said it froze up on her 3 times today when she was trying to read a book, and looking at fb another time.Her system version is 8.4.3_user_4308820. Anyone know any way to fix this? She doesn't have a warranty for it. Says silk has locked up.
Is the device running a custom or stock ROM? Is it rooted?
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Is the device running a custom or stock ROM? Is it rooted?
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Stock. Not rooted.
Uh I may be completely off but my kindle seems to get slow and freeze up pretty bad when the sdcard is low on space, start to notice it when I get under a GB, I'd check that while your at it, keep looking for what other people say though.
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I just check her storage and she has 11gigs still free. So I don't think low sdcard is the problem this time. I was hoping it would be something that simple. could rooting and a custom Rom be the best fix? are you able to still get books from Amazon and able to access your books you already have? all she wants to do is be able to browse the web, read books,maybe a game or two.
Since Silk is crashing or locking up, I would just install another browser and use that.
Dolphin, Firefox and Chrome are good alternatives.
If that doesn't work, I would just install a stock rom and wipe the kindle.
Alright will try that. Thanks.