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It says in 30 min but while I was downloading some games it just stayed on is that right.
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It says in 30 min but while I was downloading some games it just stayed on is that right.
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You can set the screen saver time in settings I have mine at 15 minutes. But after 30 minutes of inactivity it will shutdown. it's really just a deeper sleep then a full power off.
I set my screen saver to 15 minutes (or whatever the lowest is) and then it turns off 30 minutes after screen saver pops up.
It wont turn off if you are in a sideloaded app though like cable tv or xbmc so I always make sure to just hit the home button when I am done using it so it turns off.
Does it turn of if your downloading an app.
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I set my screen saver to 15 minutes (or whatever the lowest is) and then it turns off 30 minutes after screen saver pops up.
It wont turn off if you are in a sideloaded app though like cable tv or xbmc so I always make sure to just hit the home button when I am done using it so it turns off.
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This is bad news for me, I want to buy fire TV mostly for XBMC, I use it at night and will just have some TV shows play, I set a sleep timer on my TV to shut off automatically, the Original XBOX i'm currently using has option to shut down after x amount of idle time inside XBMC. Does anyone know of a way to make XBMC app close after certain time frame has passed? I wouldnt want the fire TV to be on/not sleeping ever 24/7
Have you experienced with sleep option on xbmc I have not tried it yet with the Fire TV. Not sure if it just exits xbmc when it reaches 0?
Another option would be to see if SleepTimer can be sideloaded on Fire TV. Not sure if this would work on the Fire TV but you could set to exit your "music" app after a certain amount of time and just set XBMC as the music app.
I'm having an issue that I haven't sorted out yet where it won't seem to sleep even on the default home screen when I have my USB XBox 360 controller plugged in. This happened before I sideloaded antyhing too, and I thought it might be of some help if there was any USB device that may be preventing sleep for someone here too.
would it be possible to do a real shutdown with root?
Pressing Fn+Esc on my Logitech K400 puts it to sleep immediately.
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would it be possible to do a real shutdown with root?
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I've been able to do a reboot over adb but I'm not sure if there is a shutdown command. With root I'd assume we'll be able to shutdown pretty easily.
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Pressing Fn+Esc on my Logitech K400 puts it to sleep immediately.
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That's awesome news! I'll try it on my wireless keyboard too and report back (if I remember to )
not sure if everyone knows but, holding Play/Pause and middle select button for 5 seconds, turns it off.
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not sure if everyone knows but, holding Play/Pause and middle select button for 5 seconds, turns it off.
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You sure? Mine just restarts.
I don't think it ever turns off completely. The light will go out, but if it was 100% off you would have to unplug it and plug it back in to get the control to work. There is no off switch.
Mine restarts as well. Only way I have found to turn it off is to unplug it.
Mine turn off with the combo yocoldrain mentioned, it shows a message of turning off. Thanks
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Mine turn off with the combo yocoldrain mentioned, it shows a message of turning off. Thanks
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What software version do you have.... as version 51.1.0.1 say shuting down but then actually reboots.
Don't be concerned with the fire TV staying on when not in use, your tv uses more in standby power mode than the fire tv uses in full power mode.
The box is made very well, all that weight comes from cast aluminum, the whole case is one big heat sink.
before and after new firmware, box still turns off on my side. well it says powering off, then amazon logo comes on as in its restarting or something, but actually turns off.
Hours later, I can still see it polling for the remote's battery state. It never really turns off. That's probably for the best, user experience wise. You wouldn't want to click the remote and have absolutely nothing happen.
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This is bad news for me, I want to buy fire TV mostly for XBMC, I use it at night and will just have some TV shows play, I set a sleep timer on my TV to shut off automatically, the Original XBOX i'm currently using has option to shut down after x amount of idle time inside XBMC. Does anyone know of a way to make XBMC app close after certain time frame has passed? I wouldnt want the fire TV to be on/not sleeping ever 24/7
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yes, get elmerohueso screensaver, he nicely enough updated it so even if you left xbmc paused, it will stop the video, and initiate suspend. my firetv is always sleeping now
I'm trying to implement the ability to get the FTV to sleep from an XBMC addon. Does anyone know if this is possible?
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I'm trying to implement the ability to get the FTV to sleep from an XBMC addon. Does anyone know if this is possible?
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rbox discovered that sending the equivalent of a windows keyboard sleep key press causes the Fire Tv to sleep.
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rbox discovered that sending the equivalent of a windows keyboard sleep key press causes the Fire Tv to sleep.
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I would like to point out, it's like a regular android phone sleeping. It's still awake and still responds to adb and whatnot. The light turns off, and the cpu might be downclocked a little, but that's about it.
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rbox discovered that sending the equivalent of a windows keyboard sleep key press causes the Fire Tv to sleep.
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Unfortunately, I don't have one of those media keyboards to check this, but can you tell from the XBMC log which keycode and/or command that's binding to? In the official keymap the sleep/power buttons just seem to call ActivateWindow(shutdownmenu) (showing the shutdown menu).
Edit: On second thought, it might be the FTV itself interpreting that button as kicking it into sleep mode, not a command from XBMC doing it.
Edit 2: Yup, think I've got it figured out. I'll test it out tonight.
Edit 3: Tested, working, and released.
I used to turn off power for any unused devices, even it takes only few watt. There is no menu to shutdown and turn off fire TV before I cut its power. I'm wondering whether it is safe to cut its power at any time. Or it's not necessary to have a menu selection to shutdown system? Thanks.
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I used to turn off power for any unused devices, even it takes only few watt. There is no menu to shutdown and turn off fire TV before I cut its power. I'm wondering whether it is safe to cut its power at any time. Or it's not necessary to have a menu selection to shutdown system? Thanks.
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It should be safe to just unplug, but if you use it often eventually it could cause a problem either in the firmware or the the connection itself. A simple solution would be something like a Woods wireless remote outlet. The one I have comes with 3 plugs and a remote with a switch for each. The plug can take a bit of room on the surge protector but so does the FTV power cord. I just press and hold the select and play buttons on the FTV remote for about 5 seconds and when the screen goes black I hit the power button for the outlet.
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I used to turn off power for any unused devices, even it takes only few watt. There is no menu to shutdown and turn off fire TV before I cut its power. I'm wondering whether it is safe to cut its power at any time. Or it's not necessary to have a menu selection to shutdown system? Thanks.
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Get a Microsoft remote (MCE Remote). The power button on the MCE remote will put the firetv back to sleep. When you hit the power button again it turns back on, or hitting any button on the firetv remote.
I actually prefer the MCE remote because it offers more function when using XBMC and VIMU. I can actually time skip vs ffwd, hit stop, etc... Only complaint is there is no home button. The microsuck button does not take me home, and I have not figured out how to program it on the MCE remote.
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Get a Microsoft remote (MCE Remote). The power button on the MCE remote will put the firetv back to sleep. When you hit the power button again it turns back on, or hitting any button on the firetv remote.
I actually prefer the MCE remote because it offers more function when using XBMC and VIMU. I can actually time skip vs ffwd, hit stop, etc... Only complaint is there is no home button. The microsuck button does not take me home, and I have not figured out how to program it on the MCE remote.
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As i've stated in another thread, "sleep" on this is pretty much the same as sleep on a regular android device. It's still fully awake, although the CPU might be downclocked a little.
As for home, you need F12 to get home.
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As i've stated in another thread, "sleep" on this is pretty much the same as sleep on a regular android device. It's still fully awake, although the CPU might be downclocked a little.
As for home, you need F12 to get home.
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I love low watt setups, so I know the mind set for the OP. It would have been nice to be able power off the device! I was told that lab126 felt the footprint was small enough in standby that it wasn't needed. They also wanted to be able to update when not in use, etc...
You could hook it up the ftv to a power strip. I've seen power strips that have one active outlet and shuts off the rest of the outlets when the primary device is not used. That could be another option?
Rbox- Do you know where the MCE remote values are stored in the FIreTV. I want to see if I can modify so the windows button is f12.
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Rbox- Do you know where the MCE remote values are stored in the FIreTV. I want to see if I can modify so the windows button is f12.
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Since it shows up as a regular HID keyboard I don't think it has a keylayout file. What I do know, is that the kernel could probably do it. The HID layer has a quirks system that allows you do to funky stuff for individual HID devices. Do you know the usb vendor and device id for the remote? I can take a look at the quirks stuff tonight and see if we can do anything. It might have to wait until custom kernels can be loaded though.
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Since it shows up as a regular HID keyboard I don't think it has a keylayout file. What I do know, is that the kernel could probably do it. The HID layer has a quirks system that allows you do to funky stuff for individual HID devices. Do you know the usb vendor and device id for the remote? I can take a look at the quirks stuff tonight and see if we can do anything. It might have to wait until custom kernels can be loaded though.
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I'm at work but I can pull the HID/Device info when i get home tonight. I will PM you the info, so we're not clogging the OP's thread.
It takes 3 to 4 watts to stream a movie - measured on a Kill a Watt meter. I forgot what the reading was on sleep mode but its not much. The max watts I've seen was 5 watts and that's while installing an app.
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Get a Microsoft remote (MCE Remote). The power button on the MCE remote will put the firetv back to sleep. When you hit the power button again it turns back on, or hitting any button on the firetv remote.
I actually prefer the MCE remote because it offers more function when using XBMC and VIMU. I can actually time skip vs ffwd, hit stop, etc... Only complaint is there is no home button. The microsuck button does not take me home, and I have not figured out how to program it on the MCE remote.
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Which MCE remote do you use? I have one from philips but it doesnt work with my ftv.
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Which MCE remote do you use? I have one from philips but it doesnt work with my ftv.
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What gen is it? I heard old mce receivers don't work? My USB receiver is a Phillips/nxp. It came with my zotac mini pc.
I just got my fire TV, rooted and installed a few apps including the firedtv.
I left it over night and realized it never went into sleep (the front led was on). I was able to put into sleep using a keyboard, but I don't want to keep the keyboard near my fire tv all the time.
Do you guys know what is wrong?
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I just got my fire TV, rooted and installed a few apps including the firedtv.
I left it over night and realized it never went into sleep (the front led was on). I was able to put into sleep using a keyboard, but I don't want to keep the keyboard near my fire tv all the time.
Do you guys know what is wrong?
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Try rebooting your box and without loading any external apps, see if it goes to sleep after a certain time. My guest is that an app is still running in the background preventing sleep mode.
When I first installed XBMC that happened too. I found out that XBMC was still running in the background because I didn't properly exit the app. Clicking the home button on the remote just leaves XBMC running in the background. Exit by pressing XBMC power off button and setting the system power saving timer to shut down at a interval during idle works.
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Try rebooting your box and without loading any external apps, see if it goes to sleep after a certain time. My guest is that an app is still running in the background preventing sleep mode.
When I first installed XBMC that happened too. I found out that XBMC was still running in the background because I didn't properly exit the app. Clicking the home button on the remote just leaves XBMC running in the background. Exit by pressing XBMC power off button and setting the system power saving timer to shut down at a interval during idle works.
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You can also set the power off setting in xbmc to exit after some idle time value.
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You can also set the power off setting in xbmc to exit after some idle time value.
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Yea, that's what I said. It's set to 30mins. Works fine.
I was looking around online to see if there were any alternative ways to turn off the FireTv. I know about the Play/Pause and Select combo, but has anyone heard of this?
This doesnt make any sense to me. If you're using a keyboard/mouse combo ( K400r here ) and you hold Fn+Esc... The FireTv turns off immedately. Both in FireTv screens and XBMC... The white light goes out too... Then click a button on the remote and its instatntly on.
Edited: Also just noticed that on the keyboard, there is a "Power PC'' button at the top that does the same thing...
On my K400r, there is no Fn ( blue lettering ) on the Esc key, so I have no idea whats its actually doing.. Its weird that the FireTV will sleep even in XBMC, which is known as usually not possible ( have to go back to FireTV screen )
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I was looking around online to see if there were any alternative ways to turn off the FireTv. I know about the Play/Pause and Select combo, but has anyone heard of this?
This doesnt make any sense to me. If you're using a keyboard/mouse combo ( K400r here ) and you hold Fn+Esc... The FireTv turns off immedately. Both in FireTv screens and XBMC... The white light goes out too... Then click a button on the remote and its instatntly on.
Edited: Also just noticed that on the keyboard, there is a "Power PC'' button at the top that does the same thing...
On my K400r, there is no Fn ( blue lettering ) on the Esc key, so I have no idea whats its actually doing.. Its weird that the FireTV will sleep even in XBMC, which is known as usually not possible ( have to go back to FireTV screen )
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Anything that's interpreted by Android as the POWER button, including the key combinations you mentioned, will put the FTV (or any other Android device) to sleep. I've seen mention of some third-party BT remotes being able to put the FTV to sleep with their POWER button.
If you're rooted, my XBMC repo has a screensaver that can put the FTV to sleep, and also my Confluence++ skin can put it to sleep via the XBMC power menu. Both methods simply simulate a POWER button press.
Good deal bro! Thanks. I'll check it out tonight when I get home
I'm new to the fire.. How can I load just the screensaver? Anyway to just get the screensaver??
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Good deal bro! Thanks. I'll check it out tonight when I get home
I'm new to the fire.. How can I load just the screensaver? Anyway to just get the screensaver??
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No, you'll need XBMC.
I have xbmc And I see your skin installed ( bought this aftv setup already by a seller.. ) and I also see the screensaver installed.
It is enabled, but it doesn't activate in xbmc. The skin is also enabled...
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I have xbmc And I see your skin installed ( bought this aftv setup already by a seller.. ) and I also see the screensaver installed.
It is enabled, but it doesn't activate in xbmc. The skin is also enabled...
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It only works if you're rooted, and you need to give XBMC root/SU permissions from within the screensaver's settings or the skin's settings.
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It only works if you're rooted, and you need to give XBMC root/SU permissions from within the screensaver's settings or the skin's settings.
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I have all of that. Im rooted, I did the SU check and all...
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I have all of that. Im rooted, I did the SU check and all...
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If you have the Power menu enabled in my skin settings, does the Sleep command put your FTV to sleep? If so, then the screensaver should also work fine if you have the settings in my screensaver set to Sleep.
Yeah .. Figured it out . the screensaver was enabled but not selected under the option under settings/appearance. Thanks
I have set up some fire tv sticks (stock, non-root) with the latest kodi + llama and IP TV. Works pretty well so far. But there is a big problem: often the streams keep running if accidentally the home button is pressed and the fire tv stick got back to homescreen. Even if you put the stick manually in "sleep mode" the stream keeps running in the background (you can her the audio on the tv speaker). How can I fix this?
You could try to set up a Llama rule: when KODI is running and HOME button is pressed then kill KODI.
Well, how to set it up in llama to detect home button press?
Try the following (LLama starts in german on my devices so my translation may not be exact but the meaning should be clear ):
1.) create a new Llama rule
2.) set a new condition for "KODI" but change the default value "is started or in foreground" to "is quit or in background"
3.) kill application "KODI"
What should happen here: as long as KODI runs regulary nothing because it is still in foreground but when the HOME button is pressed KODI should go to the background and here the Llama condition 2.) should be triggered and Llama has to 3.) kill KODI.
thanks for sharing your idea. I set up llama according to your suggestion but unfortunately it not work. The stream is still running in the background, even when you put the fire tv stick manually in sleep mode you can still hear the audio.
If you hold down the home button long enough from the amazon home screen, you'll get option to go to settings>applications>manage applications>kodi>force stop.
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If you hold down the home button long enough from the amazon home screen, you'll get option to go to settings>applications>manage applications>kodi>force stop.
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Well that works but pretty complicated and I am sure my kids won't do that always before they shut off tv.
I observed that on a Fire TV that problem not arises. But on the FTV stick it does. Something must be different with the sleep mode.
In firestarter go to settings and under "home button single click application" select "no action". It worked for me on a stick and fire tv. Ususally its set to FireTV home. I was able to replicate your issue on a stick and fire tv and setting the home button single click application to no action in the firestarter setting worked for me. But keep in mind that kodi will still be running in the background as its only paused. So if you double click home button from the amazon home screen you'll just go back to kodi on a paused screen. Kodi should always be turned off using it's power button or force closed from amazon app settings.