Hello there,
I have just bought a Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5 LTE T805 and I am going to root it using the method described in
the thread below
[ROOT]Official CF-Auto-Root By Chainfire. [T-700][T-705][T-800][T805]
But I don't know which one is better for my tablet Helium or TWRP? And where can i find a tutorial on how to install either of them? If there is not a tutorial available, could you please guide me through the whole proccess?
I have read on another thread that I could use an app, by the name Flashify currently available on Play store, but i don't know how to use it and if it is safe to use it with the CF-Auto-Root method mentioned above?
(Lots of people that used this app were pretty happy after using it and without problems too, but i want your experience on the matter)
To tell you the truth :angel: I am a huge fan of TWRP and I would have been very glad if I could use it again on my new tablet also.
(I had it installed on my previous tablet an Asus Transformer Pad and it worked flawlessly).
So to sum it up
Could you please tell me what to do and how to do it in order to backup my tablet before i Root it?
Which one Helium or TWRP is safer to use?
Thank you all in advance for your time,
Heluim is to backup your apps/data. Twrp can make an image of your whole os and data so you can restore from bootloops. Installing twrp via flashify is safe with cfautoroot as cfautoroot just flashes root and reverts back to your old recovery. Just download flashify, pick install recovery, then hit twrp and pick twrp 2.8.1.0 and hit yup. Then reboot and youll have twrp. You must cfautoroot first to use flashify.
Dont use twrp 2.8.3.0 as it doesnt work.
I would perfer twrp over heluim becuase its a custom recovery. Not a fan of helium as I use titianuim backup.
I would use TWRP. Basically, root first, then install TWRP via Flashify. Version 2.8.4.0, the latest, works fine. I have used it to both back up and restore and there are no problems. It does have a tendency to enable MTP when you first run it which will throw an error when you do a backup (the error is meaningless and doesn't actually do any harm, but the red type will cause panic, so the first time you go into TWRP hit the mount button and make sure MTP is disabled).
I also use Titanium Backup for backing up and restoring apps and recommend it highly. Between TWRP and TB, I can wipe, install a ROM and restore all my apps in about an hour and the TWRP Nandroid backups mean I can always easily recover if something isn't quite right.:good:
Thank you!!! Thank you both so much, for the much needed advice, much obliged!!! :good:
I will do as you advised me and thank God you clarified everything about the differences between Helium vs. TWRP :good:
Hookmt said:
I would use TWRP. Basically, root first, then install TWRP via Flashify. Version 2.8.4.0, the latest, works fine. I have used it to both back up and restore and there are no problems. It does have a tendency to enable MTP when you first run it which will throw an error when you do a backup (the error is meaningless and doesn't actually do any harm, but the red type will cause panic, so the first time you go into TWRP hit the mount button and make sure MTP is disabled).
I also use Titanium Backup for backing up and restoring apps and recommend it highly. Between TWRP and TB, I can wipe, install a ROM and restore all my apps in about an hour and the TWRP Nandroid backups mean I can always easily recover if something isn't quite right.:good:
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I usually just restore the data partition after installing a new rom instead of using TB then just wipe caches. . I only use TB for backing up and restoring certain apps or data. Doesnt take me anywhere near an hour, using either method.
ashyx said:
I usually just restore the data partition after installing a new rom instead of using TB then just wipe caches. . I only use TB for backing up and restoring certain apps or data. Doesnt take me anywhere near an hour, using either method.
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Nice idea, thanks. In the case of a clean flash, however, which is the only time I'm using TB to restore, I often want to restore only some apps and use things for a while and not everything I was experimenting with before.
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Hey guys,
I have kind of a serious issue right now. I used Touch Recovery 5.8.0.2 and made a full backup today of my whole ROM (2.5GB) before trying out some mods which eventually didn't work. So I decided to wipe and restore the backup I made. No matter what I do I cannot get it to restore my data partition properly. I keep getting "Error while restoring /data!" message, however it does the boot image and system fine but doesn't continue to cache and sd-ext because of the failed data. Whenever I boot it up, some of my apps are missing from the home screen and practically all of them are not working when I launch them (force close). I also get boot up error of Google+ force close, among a bunch of other issues. This is happening even when I try to restore an older backup as well. My device is not working state right now and although I can just restore the stock images to get it working again, it is urgent that I restore my data ASAP! I tried wiping several times and even using the non-touch 5.5.0.4 recovery to restore and same thing keeps happening.
Any help would be highly appreciated!
Please don't tell me my backup is corrupt
Update 1: Eventually I gave up and started from scratch but I have confirmed already this happened on a fresh backup as well, at this time we are trying to figure out what is causing this so I can go back to safely backing up and restoring backups.
Update 2: We have test builds of TWRP Recovery that may have resolved this issue! We need testers!
Please see this post: Link Here
Update 3: We have test builds of ClockworkMod Recovery 6 that may have resolved this issue as well! We need testers!
Please see this post: Link Here
***Always see last few posts on the thread for updates on what we discovered just in case I don't update the OP***
Unfortunately I also have the same error today!
Please help us out.
JayantSparda said:
Unfortunately I also have the same error today!
Please help us out.
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is your phone encrypted?
are you running stock recovery?
are you running a stock Rom?
have you done a factory reset yet?
Hi Spectre85,
My phone did fine yesterday, I was running AOPK Milestone 3 with FAUX123 kernel.
But when I woke up, my phone looked like it's battery was emtpy.
- When I plugged the phone with the charger, I started the phone again.
- Unfortunately my phone keep looping at the Google screen over and over.
So I pulled the battery and put the battery back again in the phone.
- I went to the bootloader and went to CWM recovery.
Deleted Data, Cache and Dalvike cache.
- Tried to retrieve my backup rom, but keep getting this "Error while restoring /data!" message.
I've tried to install other roms as well, but I still keep getting the bootloop at the Google screen.
Have you guys have any advice for me?
spectre85 said:
is your phone encrypted?
are you running stock recovery?
are you running a stock Rom?
have you done a factory reset yet?
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For me, no, no (CWM Touch 5.8.0.2), yes (stock rooted 4.0.4), no but my goal is to restore my data not erase it.
I had this happen to me before, what I did was flash a factory image through fast boot and it was fine after.
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Thanks guys..I flashed the factory image through Fastboot mode and the phone works perfectly again! Too bad I lost all my data, but I'm happier that I have my phone fully functional again
You can't access your backup right? There's no way you can copy the file to your desktop?
mohitrocks said:
You can't access your backup right? There's no way you can copy the file to your desktop?
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I did copy it. I have full access to the file. Also, just fyi my goal here is not just to get to working state (I'm aware of the stock images) but to actually recover my data. My phone is currently on stock images completely blank and working now.
Fast boot flash the nand images just like u did the stock ones.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
bwcorvus said:
Fast boot flash the nand images just like u did the stock ones.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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Nanadroid files can be flashed in fastboot? Are you sure? First time I'm hearing this. Doesn't fastboot need .img files? These are .tar files.
Open it up and see if its image...sorry all my recoveries use images.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
bwcorvus said:
Open it up and see if its image...sorry all my recoveries use images.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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I guess it depends on the recovery version you use. I remember older versions actually had .img files. However 5.5.0.4 and Touch 5.8.0.2 both have ext4.tar files.
Which version of recovery do you use?
If you have root, you can restore your data partition using Titanium Backup. Use "Export from Nandroid Backup" within TB, select the nandroid backup and then select all apps that you want to restore
Immix said:
If you have root, you can restore your data partition using Titanium Backup. Use "Export from Nandroid Backup" within TB, select the nandroid backup and then select all apps that you want to restore
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Interesting...will this include settings as well like my home screen icon/widget layout, wallpaper, etc?
open1your1eyes0 said:
Interesting...will this include settings as well like my home screen icon/widget layout, wallpaper, etc?
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Yes. Titanium Backup can restore all your system apps as well as downloaded apps from a nandroid backup. Not as clean as a nandroid restore from CWM but essentially the same thing. But try to see if Titanium Backup can extract your nandroid backup. It all depends on what exactly went wrong with your nandroid backup to begin with. I don't think it restores cache. So not sure about wallpaper.
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Yes. Titanium Backup can restore all your system apps as well as downloaded apps from a nandroid backup. Not as clean as a nandroid restore from CWM but essentially the same thing. But try to see if Titanium Backup can extract your nandroid backup. It all depends on what exactly went wrong with your nandroid backup to begin with. I don't think it restores cache. So not sure about wallpaper.
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You're right. This works great for restore data to select apps (got my notes and game saves back). I think the icon layout is held in the launcher settings, I'm about to try and restore the data to the launcher app and see what happens. I'm making a CWM backup of first of my current state (that's assuming this backup will actually work).
EDIT: Yes! That did it! Widgets position weren't saved but it's ok I only had a few so I manually put them back. Thank you! I never knew TB had the ability to work with nandroid backups.
I guess this now just leaves me figuring out what went wrong with the CWM backup. It happened twice (I have two backups from the same day that won't restore). Does anyone else use CWM Touch 5.8.0.2 and have successful backups? I would experiment to see if it works now but I don't want to end up with a corrupt backup and redo everything again.
Yes with me its the same thing my data its corrupt is even worse every time I do a nanobackup and restarted my phone the phone freezes on the boot logo and I have to go back to recovery trying to use my backups but I can't so I have to flash a new from again and start from the beginning again!!!! Anybody here has the same experience with that ???
So AGAIN, I'm having the same issue. This time on a recovery 5.5.0.4 that used to work for me when I originally got my phone. I think either my data partition might be too big or something but this really needs to fixed pronto. Anyone know how to contact Koush directly in regards to this matter?
First I'm wondering why with almost half the files i want to flash with twrp make it crash and reboot? Using the latest version. Flashed it from zip. I'm stumped. I end up flashing cwm to flash what i want then flash back to twrp. I would just use cwm because I'm more familiar with it but its not making my backups right for some reason.
Also was wondering being that alot of the apps I have uninstalled on tb are for my stock ROM which I have a backup of, can I delete them from my tb? So i don't have what feels like a thousand apps scroll to get what I want? Or will that mess something up? Most i will never use but i don't want to ruin my backup
Thanx
zombielion said:
First I'm wondering why with almost half the files i want to flash with twrp make it crash and reboot? Using the latest version. Flashed it from zip. I'm stumped. I end up flashing cwm to flash what i want then flash back to twrp. I would just use cwm because I'm more familiar with it but its not making my backups right for some reason.
Also was wondering being that alot of the apps I have uninstalled on tb are for my stock ROM which I have a backup of, can I delete them from my tb? So i don't have what feels like a thousand apps scroll to get what I want? Or will that mess something up? Most i will never use but i don't want to ruin my backup
Thanx
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What version of TWRP are you using?
Also, I don't see any problem in deleting old stock backups from TB, as long as you have a nandroid backup of your stock ROM. Even if you do delete something, and don't have a nandroid, you can always flash back to stock.
Alternatively, you can use the search function in TB to avoid having to scroll through the really long list.
MeetMyBackhand said:
What version of TWRP are you using?
Also, I don't see any problem in deleting old stock backups from TB, as long as you have a nandroid backup of your stock ROM. Even if you do delete something, and don't have a nandroid, you can always flash back to stock.
Alternatively, you can use the search function in TB to avoid having to scroll through the really long list.
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I'm on twrp 2.3.3.0 but i was having the problem on 2.2.2.0 the zips seem fine they flash in cwm it just makes it a hassle to go through all that trouble.
zombielion said:
I'm on twrp 2.3.3.0 but i was having the problem on 2.2.2.0 the zips seem fine they flash in cwm it just makes it a hassle to go through all that trouble.
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I have both cwm and twrp in flashable zips could i be not flashing it right or something. I do it the way i do everything else and never have problems? I'm getting used to twrp and the backups work for me where cwm doesn't since first backup just the reboot is such a pain. Should i go to stock and start all over could it be I've messed singing up alone the way? I can't find a postof anyone having the same problem
Hello, I recently rooted my wifes Note 2 that was on the latest OTA 4.3. Was not easy BTW. I did a back up in recovery of boot, system, and data. I figured I was good to go and start trying out other roms.
The first one I flashed was Macks Allstar 5.0 rom. Everything was great. Then my wife informed me that she did not have all of her contacts backed up to google and some were only saved to her phone. So then I figure I could just restore the original backup and extract the contacts and be able to install them to any rom.
Thats when everything went wrong. Everytime I tried restoring the back up,it would crash and recovery would do like a reboot. After many attempts I figured id try another version of recovery. After flashing many earlier versions of twrp and trying to restore, I finally was able to complete a restore from version 2.6. I was ecstatic. But then my heart sank again when boot always hangs on samsung logo. And that is where I'm stuck. I am able to flash other roms no problem but cant restore my original backup.
Needless to say my wife is ready to kill me.
Please if anyone could help me I would really appreciate it. I have searched throughout this forum and internet for hours and can not seem to find any help with this issue.
I am thankful to have been able to get this far with the help from the XDA community posts I never needed direct help even with prior phone rootings but this one has got me stumped. Thanks in advance
You need to flash Phil's recovery version 6.0.7.9. If you cant restore your backup with Phil's then I'm thinking you might be sol. Make sure you know where you saved the backup to. It's either on the phone's internal sd or external sd card. Choose the correct location in Phil's recovery and if it isn't corrupt it should work. You may also want to copy your backup onto your pc just in case because that's your only backup and doing a full wipe or odin restore could permanently delete it. Good luck.
tx_dbs_tx said:
You need to flash Phil's recovery version 6.0.7.9. If you cant restore your backup with Phil's then I'm thinking you might be sol. Make sure you know where you saved the backup to. It's either on the phone's internal sd or external sd card. Choose the correct location in Phil's recovery and if it isn't corrupt it should work. You may also want to copy your backup onto your pc just in case because that's your only backup and doing a full wipe or odin restore could permanently delete it. Good luck.
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Thank you for your reply. I am at work right now and left the phone with my wife with a working rom. I will try phils recovery when I get home. As far as backups, I have two copies. One on my SD card and the other on PC but if they're both fried I guess that negates my efforts in redundancy. It's hard to believe the backup got corrupt so quickly. I have another backup of the 2nd rom I flashed and that one wont install as well.
Is there something I am doing wrong? If the backup file is corrupt, is there a way to extract contacts seperately out of backup?
Method b.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2648855
My wife does that too. Sorry
ColeTrain! said:
Method b.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2648855
My wife does that too. Sorry
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Life of a married man. Haha!
Well, as my backup file was done with TWRP, I tried method B with TWRP recovery and it wont work so now I'm in the process of trying method A. Will update once I tried it.
I think my problem has to do with TWRP not playing friendly with 4.3 ROMS. If that is the case method A looks like it will work.:fingers-crossed:
alexandnen said:
Life of a married man. Haha!
Well, as my backup file was done with TWRP, I tried method B with TWRP recovery and it wont work so now I'm in the process of trying method A. Will update once I tried it.
I think my problem has to do with TWRP not playing friendly with 4.3 ROMS. If that is the case method A looks like it will work.:fingers-crossed:
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That's exactly right. Bootloader isn't playing well with TWRP recovery. Phil"s 6.0.7.9 seems to be compatible in most ROM vs bootloader situations. Don't use latest version of Phil's recovery as it doesn't work as well and most people recommend this as well.
If Phil's recovery won't flash your restore then Odin all the way back to stock unrooted LK8 ROM then root it with the Toolkit and flash TWRP from the toolkit at the same time. Then see if you can restore at that point.
Looks like this project has come to an end. My wife likes her new rom and doesn't want to let me work on her phone anymore. She was able to get most of her contacts back I will make sure she backs her contacts to google and I will try to convince her to install Titanium backup to backup all her app data.
Unfortunately all I have is a work issued iphone that I have no interest in jailbreaking. I really don't see the point.
I am still confident that I could have eventually restored her backup successfully with the help here.
Thank you tx_dbx_tx and coletrain for your help.
Hey,
I just flashed the stock ROM for Android Gingerbread 2.3.4, and I've been trying to root it. The DooMLoRD method doesn't work. Are there any other ways for me to root?
6Slipknot6 said:
Hey,
I just flashed the stock ROM for Android Gingerbread 2.3.4, and I've been trying to root it. The DooMLoRD method doesn't work. Are there any other ways for me to root?
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I'm aware of 2 different root methods for R800x on 2.3.4. This post should point you in the right direction:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=59132138
Thanks man! It worked! Now how do I make it so if I do a system restore it automatically installs Superuser and Busybox? Thanks!
6Slipknot6 said:
Thanks man! It worked! Now how do I make it so if I do a system restore it automatically installs Superuser and Busybox? Thanks!
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Cool man... Glad to hear you got it rooted. After you get the phone setup how you like it (including Superuser/SuperSU and busybox already installed ), then make a Nandroid backup in CWM. Keep a copy of that backup somewhere safe (like on your external sd card and an additional one on your computer), then you can always restore that Nandroid backup after wiping cache, wiping dalvik, and doing a factory reset in CWM. (Also.... If you mess the phone up really bad when tinkering with it, you can always use Androxyde's Flashtool to restore the phone to Stock.... then root it again /reinstall CWM, and restore that Nandroid backup. I can't tell you how many times I've had to do that when experimenting with different things on the phone).
I don't know of any other way to restore with a Superuser app and busybox already installed.... (other than to flash a ROM/Kernel that already includes these... but you will have to unlock your bootloader-- if not done already-- in order to flash custom kernels).
PS: check out Titanium Backup Pro from the Play Store if you're not familiar with it already... as it's a useful tool to let you backup individual apps and individual app data.
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Cool man... Glad to hear you got it rooted. After you get the phone setup how you like it (including Superuser/SuperSU and busybox already installed ), then make a Nandroid backup in CWM. Keep a copy of that backup somewhere safe (like on your external sd card and an additional one on your computer), then you can always restore that Nandroid backup after wiping cache, wiping dalvik, and doing a factory reset in CWM. (Also.... If you mess the phone up really bad when tinkering with it, you can always use Androxyde's Flashtool to restore the phone to Stock.... then root it again /reinstall CWM, and restore that Nandroid backup. I can't tell you how many times I've had to do that when experimenting with different things on the phone).
I don't know of any other way to restore with a Superuser app and busybox already installed.... (other than to flash a ROM/Kernel that already includes these... but you will have to unlock your bootloader-- if not done already-- in order to flash custom kernels).
PS: check out Titanium Backup Pro from the Play Store if you're not familiar with it already... as it's a useful tool to let you backup individual apps and individual app data.
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Does the root method you introduced to me come with CWM restore?
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Does the root method you introduced to me come with CWM restore?
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No. You have to install the Clockwork Mod Recovery separately.
This thread should help you to get it installed - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=55290171
6Slipknot6 said:
Does the root method you introduced to me come with CWM restore?
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Another way to install CWM Recovery is to use the Xparts app, (also called the CWM Auto Installer)... but you have to use an older version (v.5) for the R800x. If you'd rather use the Xparts app, then go to this thread:
( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21237127 ).
Scroll to the bottom of the first post to find several versions of the app. Download and install ("CWM Installer-v5.apk").... then use the app to install CWM. I've not used this method, but others report that it works.
Hey there!
I have a question? What's the best option for backing up my whole device? I want to flash CM 12.1 but I need TWRP for that, and for TWRP, I need to unlock my bootloader, which (according to people here) means to wipe my data and apps.
If I use the Backup app pre installed in my phone, will I be able to restore if say... I re-flash my stock ASUS ZenUI ROM again?
Fraot said:
Hey there!
I have a question? What's the best option for backing up my whole device? I want to flash CM 12.1 but I need TWRP for that, and for TWRP, I need to unlock my bootloader, which (according to people here) means to wipe my data and apps.
If I use the Backup app pre installed in my phone, will I be able to restore if say... I re-flash my stock ASUS ZenUI ROM again?
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Yes you can restore from the backup using the stock Asus backup app if you decide to go back too stock. If you stick with cm12.1 then I would use titanium backup from the play store to backup and restore apps from a custom rom. However titanium backup also works with the stock rom but if it restores stock apps on a custom rom they will likely crash like mad.
Fun note when I unlocked my bootloader using the unofficial method it didn't wipe my data so I didn't need to restore any app backups. As always backup anything you might need just in case something goes wrong and you need to restore anything.
Pro tip, when doing backups on a phone like that zenfone 2 if you can backup to a removable sdcard cause if something goes wrong and you cant power on your phone you will always be able to access the backups using a sdcard reader.
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