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I've set up my gmail account with my htc desire and can access my emails fine using the Google mail application (the one with a red M in an envelope). However, to test the push email function, I emailed myself from another account. On my pc, the email arrived instantly, but my desire didn't notify of a new message till almost 15 minutes later.
Is there a setting somewhere that i might have missed - to enable retrieval of emails as they arrive?
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I've set up my gmail account with my htc desire and can access my emails fine using the Google mail application (the one with a red M in an envelope). However, to test the push email function, I emailed myself from another account. On my pc, the email arrived instantly, but my desire didn't notify of a new message till almost 15 minutes later.
Is there a setting somewhere that i might have missed - to enable retrieval of emails as they arrive?
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Were you using wifi? Push is really crap over wifi on the desire, the only time I get the push email instantly is when I use mobile data instead.
I was having the same problem and think that it doesnt allow push.
I then set ot up in exchange activesync but im worried about battery life :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=657065
Hope that is of some use.
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Were you using wifi? Push is really crap over wifi on the desire, the only time I get the push email instantly is when I use mobile data instead.
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Yeah I always use mobile data too. I hardly ever use wifi unless I'm downloading something big to my phone such as copilot maps.
Anyway, I've set it up with activesync now and push is working flawlessly. Sometimes I get notified of emails before they even arrive on my pc.
hot-fuzz said:
I was having the same problem and think that it doesnt allow push.
I then set ot up in exchange activesync but im worried about battery life :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=657065
Hope that is of some use.
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hot-fuzz, I'm gonna start tomorrow with a full charge and have active sync running all day. I'll post my findings here if I observe dramatic decrease in battery life.
got it set up on the one i am using and it seems to work just fine. Emails appear on the phone within seconds of arriving at Gmail.
I do sometimes get periods where it is a bit slower though, i think generally when in a bad signal area where i only have 2G. I'm guessing when it has lower signal or only 2G, it may slow down the checking to save battery power or bandwidth or something....
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hot-fuzz, I'm gonna start tomorrow with a full charge and have active sync running all day. I'll post my findings here if I observe dramatic decrease in battery life.
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That would be very useful. Thinking of doing it myself.
If i have mine setup for every 5 minutes thats 13 times every hour (including on the hour). I need to know if exchange polls take up more battery than checking 13 times an hour, if i get less than 13 emails an hour via exchange (which i do).
hmmmmm
Be interesting what peoples findings are on battery life and different ways to grab email.
I want to get back to the main topic.
I came from HTC Hero where Gmail push (in the gmail app) worked perfect - also on the 2.1 custom roms.
Not on the Desire it does not push the mails instantley. I don't want to go the way over the HTC Mail app...
Anyone has an idea how to fix it?
This may have been addressed, but a search didn't reveal anything exactly like this. Please bear in mind that I'm an Android newbie!
I bought the Incredible 2 last Thursday. No rooting, nothing weird, still mostly stock. This morning it's running very slow, screen transitions jerky, etc. and even text based email takes minutes to open. I messed around in settings, and notice that Mail (com.htc.android.mail) is using 48% of my battery, more than twice what the screen is using! I force close, and the phone speeds right up, lag is gone, screen transitions smooth but, minutes later, Mail comes back on line and the phone goes to crap.
I've used more that 1/2 my battery in two hours. I notice that the uptime is 1 hr 58 minutes, and the awake time is 1 hr 44 minutes, so I assume that the mail app is also preventing the phone from sleeping.
Any advise will be greatly appreciated!!
This may sound obvious, but did you try resetting your phone? Turn fastboot off (settings > applications > click fastboot so it is unchecked) then kill mail, and before it has a chance to restart hold the power button, then shut down. The restart option might work, but for things like this I prefer a good old fashioned power down, power up. Anyways, power your phone back on by pushing the power button for two seconds or so. Then see how it goes. This is an error that I have not heard about, but a reset is a universal problem solver. If it doesn't work, tell us what kind of email accounts you have set up (pop, imap, exchange) and how many, and also the settings for checking the mail.
Hopefully the restart will fix it though.
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Thanks! My limited Android knowledge told me to try a restart, but I actually didn't know how on the Incredible 2!!
Anyway, the problem went away for a couple hours, then came back!
I use a POP server for my work email, and gmail for personal. I really don't understand this, as nothing has changed since yesterday, but the phone has slowed to a crawl!
Try a third party email app. I don't know of any offhand as I only use gmail on my phone. My gmail account checks my imap account on another host so it's all together, and I can distinguish which account is which on the emails through gmail tags.
Umm I think this will require a factory reset, because you can't uninstall stock mail nor freeze it without root
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You can temp root, and freeze the stock mail app if that is the way you decide to go. Instructions found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1068544. But that sounds more like something faulty with the software, because like I said, I have never heard of that happening before. I would take it back to Verizon, complain incessantly, and point out that you could have fixed it yourself if the phone had an unlocked bootloader
Do you have them set to check mail constantly, push, or are they on a delay? Can you use imap for work instead of pop? I have four accounts set up on mine, including an exchange, and three imap accounts. The fact that it just started happening leads me to believe something broke in the system, though. A factory reset and re-flash may indeed fix the problem. Also, do you have good 3g coverage most of the day? Check your time without signal under battery status in settings. Click on cell standby and it should give it to you. Or are you using wifi most of the day?
Sorry for the rambling questions, just writing stuff out as I think of it. Trying to narrow down what the problem could be.
Thanks, again.
I'm using the mail settings that the school requires, so can't change them. Currently set only to update when the app is opened.
I generally get good cellular reception at work, and I have wifi as well. I've been trying it with or without wifi today, with no changes. I'll try a reset and see if that helps.
I just mentioned trying another app because I don't see these problems and I do not have the stock mail app configured in any way.
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Thanks, again.
I'm using the mail settings that the school requires, so can't change them. Currently set only to update when the app is opened.
I generally get good cellular reception at work, and I have wifi as well. I've been trying it with or without wifi today, with no changes. I'll try a reset and see if that helps.
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Factory reset should probably fix it
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This may have been addressed, but a search didn't reveal anything exactly like this. Please bear in mind that I'm an Android newbie!
I bought the Incredible 2 last Thursday. No rooting, nothing weird, still mostly stock. This morning it's running very slow, screen transitions jerky, etc. and even text based email takes minutes to open. I messed around in settings, and notice that Mail (com.htc.android.mail) is using 48% of my battery, more than twice what the screen is using! I force close, and the phone speeds right up, lag is gone, screen transitions smooth but, minutes later, Mail comes back on line and the phone goes to crap.
I've used more that 1/2 my battery in two hours. I notice that the uptime is 1 hr 58 minutes, and the awake time is 1 hr 44 minutes, so I assume that the mail app is also preventing the phone from sleeping.
Any advise will be greatly appreciated!!
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I've had the Inc 1 and now the two. I've always turned off the (auto sync) this would require yyou to open your mail and manually refresh or of you use the sync all widget it works that was as well. Seems to save a ton of battery only drawback being you have to manually check it. Ie. No mail notifications. Just a thought maybe you want to give it a shot.
Thanks, everyone. Using a combination of all your advise, the problem is resolved. I factory reset the phone, then installed only my gmail account. This worked fine all of yesterday, so I finally got off my butt and learned how to use gmail to read and send my work email last night. That seems to be working well. I'm still getting email notifications, but gmail is only using 3% of my battery, as opposed to the 48% that Android mail was using.
Still don't know what caused the trouble, but I'm very pleased with the solution.
Thanks again!!
Email battery problem also on Nexus S
I have also the problem that the standard email is consuming the biggest part of the battery - mostly over 50%. I use an exchange account and a pop email, but both not synchronized automatically (manual sync interval), and I do not use them so often - max. one sync a day...
Anyone an idea how to improve this?
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HTC mail has always been a battery drainer for me. I just use the Gmail app.
AgalychnisCallidryas said:
HTC mail has always been a battery drainer for me. I just use the Gmail app.
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Or k9 mail....just set the settings to update manually...
Gmail is the only non battery hog.
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K-9 Mail
I had also the problem (as mentioned above) with the standard android email programm and a so related short battery life. Since I deleted all email configurations there and installed K-9 mail client instead, battery life improved a lot. Before I could use my phone about 2 days, now it lasts for around 5-6 days...
I am having some weird issues with k9mail client with push mail not working consistently. Does anyone else have this problem?
Random times during the day, mails do not get pushed to me. I can't really discern a particular pattern of when it works and when it doesn't so I haven't been able to "reproduce" the problem at will. I've also turned on debugging and have been looking at the logs via aLogCat.
For Example
Let's say I start watching the logs at 1:00pm and this was the last time anything was logged by k9mail. Then I get an email to one of my accounts at 1:10pm (I found out via desktop mail client) but this mail does not get pushed to me so I don't get notified and k9mail is still not logging anything so there's no activity by the mail client.
1:25pm comes around, which is over the 24 minute imap idle refresh time configured but I still don't see any mails being pushed to me.
Sometimes the mail finally gets pushed, sometimes it doesn't get pushed for over an hour.
Anyone else have this issue? Any suggestions?
I am currently confined to using k9mail because it allows me to reply to emails received at one account with another account without using gmail's "Send As" feature.
Thanks!
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At the times you're expecting the mail to push through, is your phone on or idle? Do you notice any discernible difference between the two?
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Yes, the phone is on but it doesn't seem to matter if it is on (screen on) or idle (screen off).
This would be the sequence of events:
1) The phone is on but screen off (idling)
2) I notice that I received an email through my desktop PC
3) Look at my phone, LED is not blinking so it has not been pushed the email
4) I turn the screen on and unlock it, still is not pushed
5) I opened up the k9mail app, still not pushed
At this point, I can turn the screen back off and eventually I would get notified but when this problem is occurring, it takes too long for the mail to get pushed to me and this problem really defeats the purpose of push mail.
Thanks for the reply!
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Seems like you're not the only one with this issue. I would completely remove the application, wipe cache on the phone in recovery (power + volume up if not rooted), reinstall and set it back up. If that doesn't fix push, set it to poll every 5 minutes.
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I've definitely seen reports of this issue. Really not sure if it's the OS, phone, or k9mail.
Here's a k9mail bug that was reported that I added onto with logs:
http://code.google.com/p/k9mail/issues/detail?id=3847
If anyone else is having the same issues, please add a comment so that it get some more attention.
Could this be the same issue described in detail here?
code.google.com/p/k9mail/issues/detail?id=4347
This issue has recently appeared on my phone as well. I had been using K9 for my work email for over a year on my Evo 4G without any problems. About two months ago I picked up a Samsung SG3 (Sprint) and installed K9 on there as well, with no problems whatsoever. All of a sudden around September 5th, I started noticing that I would get my desktop notifications before my phone would receive my emails, which I couldn't recall ever happening in the entire time I had been using K9. I had not make any network changes, system changes, or anything like that. It just stopped working as it normally did one day.
Long story short, I've been having the same issue as you described in the OP. I've tried installing and uninstalling multiple versions of K9 (4.119, 4.200, 4.201, 4.304, 4.306) with the same results.
My work email is hosted by GoDaddy (yes, they are terrible) and as you can expect, I tried getting some support from them and they said that everything was working as it should. I've also tried sending the K9 devs a few emails regarding the issue along with a bunch of catlogs, but not one of them has responded to me. Oh well, it was a great app when it was working.
Oh, and for what it's worth, I had tried setting up 3 different imap email accounts on K9, my work account hosted by GoDaddy, a Gmail account, and a Yahoo account. The Yahoo and Gmail ones pushed emails immediately, whereas the work one would only push at the "refresh idle connection" intervals.
Posting this in general, as I'm not asking a question. I'm stating my findings. Though, feel free to chime in with your experiences.
I'm quite frustrated with mail on my One X. It drives me so insane, I want to go back to my Gnex or iPhone because mail works flawlessly on those. I have read others claiming they don't have this issue, but that's bull. I have had the AT&T version and now the International version and this problem is very real.
I have two accounts set up as Exchange accounts: One is my work e-mail, the other is Gmail. I also have Gmail set up through the native app.
Mail will work fine for a while, then just stops coming in. Today, it was my work e-mail account. I went into Accounts and Sync and there was a "!" on Calendar. It seems like when it can't sync one component of the account, nothing else comes in. I could be wrong. Most certainly, mail stops coming into the Mail app from time-to-time. It's like it just goes to sleep.
It will then inexplicably start working for a while, then stop again. It drives me batty. The moral of the story is, I can't rely on my phone for e-mail at this point, which is kind of a fundamental function of a smartphone. It's even more frustrating when I see the mail come in on every other device and my One X just doesn't get it. If I open Mail, it comes in and sometimes it will work normally for a while after that, but then it stops again.
Really hoping HTC fixes this soon, because it's a serious issue. The only thing I haven't tried is using a 3rd party client, but I don't want to do that because then the mail conversations won't be threaded in my contact history. And honestly, I shouldn't have to.
Also, disclaimer, I am NOT set to Smart Sync on any of my accounts. They are all push.
I can confirm that I am having the same experience and its really pi##ing me off!
Occasionally I get a message stuck in the Outbox as well and then it just keeps on resending the mail. 27 times once!
It also really sucks the battery when it plays up like this.
Always seems to happen after low or no connectivity.
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It happens to me with WiFi here at home. It's not just Mail but also other apps that need to sync like Weather. It's not because of the apps but because even though it shows my WiFi is connected, it is actually disconnected.
I went to another house with WiFi the other day. Perhaps they have different settings... Either way it never happened there. NEVER. I received e-mails right away on my Mail Exchange... Right away. My Weather never missed the update schedule.
Btw, have you enabled the security thing with Mail For Exchange? Something to do with the server. I have only enabled it yesterday.
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Is it because of sync setting?
I have 2 work email account, one set as push and another set to auto sync every 4 hours, both works fine no matter i'm on 3G or wifi. Besides, my Gmail using the native gmail app also works fine. The moment i saw a notification on my desktop then immediately the phone will notify me.
This is a very real issue for me, i was just about to make a thread on it myself. I have 2 email accounts, a hotmail and a gmail, neither refuse to sync. I Cant see new or old messages, sent, deleted etc on either account. It did work at one point but then it stopped again for no apparent reason.
100% battery
doesnt work on network or wifi
everything else syncs fine, inc dropbox and weather.
using default mail client.
set to sync when i open app.
Er... Is it because it is set to sync only when you open the app?
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There is definatly an issue on HTC's side.
My exchange mail isnt working well as well. Set it to push...the first few minutes/hours AFTER I turned off the screen pushing works more or less good.
Test mails arrives a few seconds/sometimes minutes after I sent them to my own mail account...but when the phone is idling for some more hours it wont sync the mails anymore...it starts syncing the mails again when I turn on the screen.
Really annoying imo. On gingerbread push mail was working fine..mails arrived seconds after you sent them to the maila ccount that syncs the mails on the device.
I think the issue is smartsync in the settings.apk.
It tries to handle the data connection of the device to give better battery life..but therefore breaks for example proper mail syncing.
On gingerbread you was able to deactivate that feature, it was called "constant mobile data" or similar..if you unckecked it, your mobile data went to sleep after a while when your turned off the screen....on ICS you cant control it yet...Hope htc will fix it for the next OTA.
ladyhaly said:
Er... Is it because it is set to sync only when you open the app?
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Well if thats the issue then its poorly designed. I'm seriously considering exchanging for the S3.
Regardless of when it is set to sync, it should sync when i want it to. So if i have manual sync, then when i refresh it i should be able to see new email, correct?
j4n87 said:
There is definatly an issue on HTC's side.
My exchange mail isnt working well as well. Set it to push...the first few minutes/hours AFTER I turned off the screen pushing works more or less good.
Test mails arrives a few seconds/sometimes minutes after I sent them to my own mail account...but when the phone is idling for some more hours it wont sync the mails anymore...it starts syncing the mails again when I turn on the screen.
Really annoying imo. On gingerbread push mail was working fine..mails arrived seconds after you sent them to the maila ccount that syncs the mails on the device.
I think the issue is smartsync in the settings.apk.
It tries to handle the data connection of the device to give better battery life..but therefore breaks for example proper mail syncing.
On gingerbread you was able to deactivate that feature, it was called "constant mobile data" or similar..if you unckecked it, your mobile data went to sleep after a while when your turned off the screen....on ICS you cant control it yet...Hope htc will fix it for the next OTA.
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Yeah, that's what it seemed like to me: That HTC was defaulting to smartsync, even when it was set to Push, because it'll start working fine for a while, then stop again. This is really my only issue with the phone currently and it's also one of the most critical. It needs to be addressed sooner, rather than later.
This has been happening to me too. It is not new though. It happened on my HTC Sensation. E-mail would gets stuck in the outbox and tells me it has failed when in fact it is sending it over and over and people end up with multiple e-mails from me. It is extremely frustrating. I also get the exclamation mark when trying a manual sync. It ONLY happens over WiFi and it is not all the time. It happens on different WiFi connections, not just mine and it can sometimes be fine for days. The annoying thing is, I do not know I am unable to receive e-mail until I try sending one and it fails. As soon as it fails I know the problem is back and I have to switch WiFi off.
Glad I am not the only one with this issue. I may end up trying a third party mail app if it isn't fixed.
Yes, this is very annoying.
Happened to me once too, and I had to remove my account and re-create it.
Fixed it - but that's just really a work around for a problem that shouldn't exist...
drpayout said:
Happened to me once too, and I had to remove my account and re-create it.
Fixed it - but that's just really a work around for a problem that shouldn't exist...
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This doesn't work for me. I wish it was that easy.
Anyone else having an issue where read messages don't stay marked as read? I've been having to re mark emails as read daily.
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Yes. Even my note 1 was terrible with this. I'd delete messages even and they pop back up multiple times randomly. It's been pretty agitating, and I've gotten to the point where I just stopped the notifications.
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722ish said:
Yes. Even my note 1 was terrible with this. I'd delete messages even and they pop back up multiple times randomly. It's been pretty agitating, and I've gotten to the point where I just stopped the notifications.
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Did you try using a 3rd party email app to see if it made a difference?
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Yes, no change. This is yahoo, road runner, gmail, and the att.net via yahoo that all do it repeatedly on any device except via web browser. Tried an ipad, iphone, note 10.1, the first note phone, and both of the note 2's I have had. The apple devices don't copy the alerts for only the roadrunner account, otherwise all 4 accounts repeated the same problem.
Have you found any solution? I am not sure why all those different gmail and yahoo accounts would act so strangely but it is typical for me. Haha
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Nope, unfortunately no solution as of yet but it's annoying as he'll, and I know that much!
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This probably won't help, but I'll put it out there anyway. I've noticed that when I go into any web based email client (Comcast, for instance) the mail on my phone from that account...refreshes, is the best way I can put it. Mail I've already deleted from my phone pops up again as new and I have to go through and delete it again. That has happened on pretty much every phone I've used. Never really looked into it too deeply, but it is annoying.
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This probably won't help, but I'll put it out there anyway. I've noticed that when I go into any web based email client (Comcast, for instance) the mail on my phone from that account...refreshes, is the best way I can put it. Mail I've already deleted from my phone pops up again as new and I have to go through and delete it again. That has happened on pretty much every phone I've used. Never really looked into it too deeply, but it is annoying.
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Definitely true! I never had an issue with any devices for years now until my note 1 hit ICS official. I am not sure how it coincides but that is the only thing I know of that changed. Strange stuff. I have the same trouble, especially clear from device to device.
I may just try a 3rd party app to see if that helps. Maybe K9 Mail or similar. Will report back.
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Just a few thoughts of what I've seen in the past. You may already know all this but FWIW, whatever.
1. pop3 email accounts are crap. Usually when you delete, it still stays on the server until you delete in webmail or something with true access to email.
2. Setting up email accounts with imap will delete off the server. It's not perfect like Exchange but better than pop.
3. I've often used the settings in gmail to push or pull email from my other none gmail accounts. For example my home internet company will only send usage alerts to the email account they provide. They also don't allow access to see the email unless you are on their network (at home) or go to their site and check their webmail app. So I use gmail pull tool to automatically check for new emails every so often (Gmail decides the frequency) and pull the new mail into my gmail account, then they show up on my phone. One time I accidently created a loop of three email addresses, one pushing and one pulling email so 1 email continually delivered over and over until I realized what I had done. "Broadcast storm anyone??" You may want to check how many devices are getting access to that email address, it could be something like #4.
4. I've seen a problem where my home desktop PC has Outlook installed. When outlook is open I think it would receive the email before my phone and save it to the PST, so my phone would never see it. Except there was a setting in outlook to "Leave emails on the server for X amount of time. Which was great because then my phone would see them even though outlook pulled them into the PST file. However I also noticed when I deleted the email from my phone it would reappear and I think it was because I had outlook leave it on the server. If my PC was shut off I had no problems. Another way I could clear it was to go to a webmail site and login to my email and delete them off the server. Then they would still be in my PST from the first time they arrived and I could also delete them off my phone only this time they would not reappear because I had gone into the server and deleted them. I bet this is as clear as mud right. Meh
One of these above may be a factor.
I am using apex launcher and the symptoms have minimized or fixed.... but this is an android issue... android doesn't do push like the iPhone...
on the iPhone...you delete an email and a couple of secs later.. it is gone from the web... and vice versa...
on android you have to wait till it syncs... it doesn't do push...
these are the things that make me want to go back to iPhone... i wish we could install iOS on this big phone!
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I am using apex launcher and the symptoms have minimized or fixed.... but this is an android issue... android doesn't do push like the iPhone...
on the iPhone...you delete an email and a couple of secs later.. it is gone from the web... and vice versa...
on android you have to wait till it syncs... it doesn't do push...
these are the things that make me want to go back to iPhone... i wish we could install iOS on this big phone!
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Yahoo mail app does push for certain, and so does hotmail, even to the native email app. I just cant seem to get the yahoo mail app to zoom ever, and it makes reading messages impossible. I get the same repeated emails in ios also, so it isn't free of similar issues for me at least.
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Try pushing aosp email & exchange APK to your phone and see if that fixes it by replacing the stock apps
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