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I know this has been discussed before.
But have a look at this!
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/windows-phone-7-should-have-customizable-wallpaper
If you like it, post a comment on pocketnow, lets make some waves so that MS can hear us.
They have allready made som other changes according to our wishes, so there is still hope.
Yes, I think there should be more options to customize the homepage.
Transparent tiles & Wallpapers spring to mind. But I don't think this is a case of them not wanting to offer things of that nature, I just think that level of customization is out of the scope of this phase.
Edit: I think it should exist, but personally I'd probably disable the transparent tiles. I'd probably use a wallpaper.
I like the black background. With a amoled it will look very good.
And the black Background is metro... And i like it ^^
I can't really see the point of wallpaper on the home screen. The tiles take up too much space and it would just clutter a nice clean interface.
I would love to have a wallpaper and the tiles half transparent.
I thought it would look ugly- but that dosn't look half bad- is it possible to develop an app which does this or wouldn't Mircosoft allow it?
I really like this. I'm hoping that we see this added in the first revision of the OS. The more customization options the better.
Wallpapers not featuring in this release doesn't mean that they aren't coming. Loads of stuff (actually, most of the stuff people critisize) has been left out for time constraints rather than as a design decision. I expect that includes wallpapers, it seems like an obvious thing.
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jakem said:
I can't really see the point of wallpaper on the home screen. The tiles take up too much space and it would just clutter a nice clean interface.
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are you even serious..."face palm".
typical damn winmo fanboy response, jesus some of you will defend this piece of crap phone till the end. yet another reason this device will FAIL and why i wouldn't use one if i got one for free.
who the heck is microsoft to tell me how to use my phone? i cannot believe these are the same people who gave us the masterpiece that is windows 7. this wp7 will do worse than the palm pre/pixi did.
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Your a f***n idiot plain and simple. Get a Fu**n life seriously cuz u act like u have nothing to do but talk **** for whatever reason God only knows. As far as I know your messing with android anyways so myob. It just looks like your coming over here to mess with people but if u acted like this to people in person you would get your ass whooped.... little *****. You are one of the people that are completely worthless as far as these forums go so if u get that damn bored that u need to act like a little ***** to people u should probably kill yourself.
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lmao...did i strike a nerve? because i spoke the truth, deal with it.
and for your info, this has NOTHING to do with droid, im talking about how locked down this phone will be. it's worse than the iphone, learn to read before you respond.
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are you even serious..."face palm".
typical damn winmo fanboy response, jesus some of you will defend this piece of crap phone till the end. yet another reason this device will FAIL and why i wouldn't use one if i got one for free.
who the heck is microsoft to tell me how to use my phone? i cannot believe these are the same people who gave us the masterpiece that is windows 7. this wp7 will do worse than the palm pre/pixi did.
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I think your comment is a bit over the top...quite silly actually...
Will you be coming back here to eat your own words...
WP7 looks pretty sweet to me...with all the money and marketing they are putting into this it would be a long shot for it to fail...
LIP
lip said:
I think your comment is a bit over the top...quite silly actually...
Will you be coming back here to eat your own words...
WP7 looks pretty sweet to me...with all the money and marketing they are putting into this it would be a long shot for it to fail...
LIP
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i was an avid winmo user for years. wp7 not only looks like utter crap but it's more locked down than any phone ive seen. not being able to set my own theme or wallpaper is beyond ridiculous. this has nothing to do with me being a current android user. i just do not see this phone doing well until a crap load of changes are made, maybe by the devs. BUT from what i understand the devs won't be able to do much to it anyways. if i could shut off metro completely i may look into the phone just for the specs alone. most people i talk to agree 100% even loyal winmo devs. it's gonna take alot more than what wp7 currently has to offer to bring me back or most of the devs that defected to android. an believe me alot of them moved to android.
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pwnd!
10char...blah, blah!
i have a zune hd. that's quite similar to wp7. Some time ago I did see an app that draws a background. Maybe something like that will come to wp7 too
We get that you don't like WP7, you come in here daily stating it for no reason that I can see. I certainly don't see it benefiting anyone or changing anyones minds. When I look in the android general section I don't see a bunch of WP7 fans in there posting about the (many) faults of the OS. What about Windows could possibly bring about so much hate except perhaps jealousy? I just don't see the reason why anyone wants to come in here over and over again more or less neglecting their own devices forum to bash on an OS most of them have never used. If you have a WP7 device and want to come bash it then whatever but really... no need for all this senseless hatred...
Well, I like it
Because alot of the people you speak of are not android or apple fans yet. They are still weighing their options of which os and phone is better. And when a android or apple user tell them whats wrong and what features are missing. The wp7 pole jockers start to get their feelings hurt, because the phone will eventually have the updates but dont. Thats my 2 cents.
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Fear
These people you speak of do not like MS for whatever personal reasons. The thought that something like WP7 might be successful irritates the heck out of them. They fear that MS will be successful and it drives them crazy, so they post hateful messages in hopes that someone, anyone, will agree with them and reinforce their hope that MS will fail. Childish, immature, unrealistic, misguided, and, quite frankly, kind of disturbing.
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We get that you don't like WP7, you come in here daily stating it for no reason that I can see. I certainly don't see it benefiting anyone or changing anyones minds. When I look in the android general section I don't see a bunch of WP7 fans in there posting about the (many) faults of the OS. What about Windows could possibly bring about so much hate except perhaps jealousy? I just don't see the reason why anyone wants to come in here over and over again more or less neglecting their own devices forum to bash on an OS most of them have never used. If you have a WP7 device and want to come bash it then whatever but really... no need for all this senseless hatred...
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What "hate"?...... hate is a pretty strong word for an inanimate object, if your talking about the many shortcomings of WP7 that are constantly pointed out, so what, they need to be pointed out and *****ed about otherwise MS won't change them.
There's probably an element of teasing people because of funny threads like you started about how you've never been so impressed with an OS, with many silly words like "love" and "beautiful" used and how it's so much smoother than whatever, if having smooth swiping and scrolling is your total requirement for a mobile OS, don't get upset when others think it isn't.
Don't assume everybody who says anything negative about WP7 is an Android user, a lot of them are long time PPC/WM users and have probably lost more than you've gained with WP7, it's their right as a customer to bleat all they want, people can say WP7 is not a replacement for WM all they like, fact is, it's being marketed and sold as one by Microsoft.....and it ain't....not even close.
People that are getting all bitter and twisted over others negative comments, need to step back and accept that XDA is a public forum moderated by users trying to be impartial, and if you don't like it, my suggestion is to start your own WP7 enthusiasts forum where you can moderate all negativity to your hearts desire....maybe a yahoo group or something where you can vet users thoroughly before allowing them into your little happy world etc.
"Try it, before you criticize it", yet every post I've read in here where someone has, and then they are pointing out it's shortcomings, WP7 defenders start saying inane things like....you should have known, and.......go back to your beloved android, honestly, this forum is like reading a commentary of primary school life or something these days, it used to be great, now it seems like some sort of perverted amusement value where no one can accept that someone else has different wants or requirements, and start using ridiculous terms like jealousy...hate...love...beauty...trolls....fanboys on and on....pretty bizarre [if not amusing] reading considering handhelds are being discussed.
edit> Fear, there's another one.
Carry on.
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People that are getting all bitter and twisted over others negative comments, need to step back and accept that XDA is a public forum moderated by users trying to be impartial, and if you don't like it, my suggestion is to start your own WP7 enthusiasts forum where you can moderate all negativity to your hearts desire....maybe a yahoo group or something where you can vet users thoroughly before allowing them into your little happy world etc.
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So essentially it should be like WM6.5 (a failed OS regardless of what the members here say) or bust because its made by a company who in the early 2000s wanted to put out a phone that had some computer functionality and havent changed it much since? I loved WM primarily because I COULD modify the UI to something beautiful and I could always update it with the latest version of some UI replacement and I could do all this but at the end of the day it's nice to have a phone that just works from the start without a stylus or lag or anything. After owning a veritable ton of smartphones I can honestly say that with the WP7 I dont feel that I need to mod it to make it amazing. Yeah, it lacks a few basic features but I think it more than makes up for it in the areas it excels. I understand that not everyones going to like it. Some people are concerned with physical customizations I've personally not seen a UI so smooth before so I dont need any physical changes. However, more often than not if someone posts a thread like "I want to get a WP7" or something like that trolls will flock to the thread and try and pull them to android. I mean its not a big deal for some but some of us cant stand fragmentation. It's annoying and its an issue you'd think they wouldve addressed prior to this. If people want WM 6.5 its there. For those of us who want something newer that actually has a chance in the smartphone world, WP7 is there.
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So essentially it should be like WM6.5 (a failed OS regardless of what the members here say) or bust because its made by a company who in the early 2000s wanted to put out a phone that had some computer functionality and havent changed it much since? I loved WM primarily because I COULD modify the UI to something beautiful and I could always update it with the latest version of some UI replacement and I could do all this but at the end of the day it's nice to have a phone that just works from the start without a stylus or lag or anything. After owning a veritable ton of smartphones I can honestly say that with the WP7 I dont feel that I need to mod it to make it amazing. Yeah, it lacks a few basic features but I think it more than makes up for it in the areas it excels. I understand that not everyones going to like it. Some people are concerned with physical customizations I've personally not seen a UI so smooth before so I dont need any physical changes. However, more often than not if someone posts a thread like "I want to get a WP7" or something like that trolls will flock to the thread and try and pull them to android. I mean its not a big deal for some but some of us cant stand fragmentation. It's annoying and its an issue you'd think they wouldve addressed prior to this. If people want WM 6.5 its there. For those of us who want something newer that actually has a chance in the smartphone world, WP7 is there.
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Well, I'm not interested in getting into a pissing contest about mine does this and yours doesn't, you asked the question, why so much hate, and I was giving reasons I thought were probably relevant apart from the extremely popular Android users conspiracy theory.
I don't really understand why you started this thread when you think you already know the answer, what was it ever going to achieve for you apart from more negativity for something you like?
XDA's official Galaxy S hater.
Location: Austin, Texas.
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XDA's official Galaxy S hater.
Location: Austin, Texas.
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what a waste of a post. What does this prove except that you can read???
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what a waste of a post. What does this prove except that you can read???
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Well, it proves that the OP is a hypocrite as he is a Galaxy S hater. Your inability to extract this information from my post is tragically disappointing.
JoLLAJoLLA said:
Well, it proves that the OP is a hypocrite as he is a Galaxy S hater. Your inability to extract this information from my post is tragically disappointing.
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29 posts in almost a year.
Are all of them this helpful???
well.. i used to have iphone and i hate it, i changed to android, kinda better.. then now i have wp7.
WP7 is the best amoung all the OS. i just love it.
games are much better,
i can do office,
interface is easy and fast,
screen is hell big on my HD7,
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games and apps are expensive like shiat!
I am not hating WP7.
I own one for 2 months now and I just realize that it is not really a smartphone.
It is rather a phone for kids or for people who are not used to smartphones and need something very basic.
arturobandini said:
I am not hating WP7.
I own one for 2 months now and I just realize that it is not really a smartphone.
It is rather a phone for kids or for people who are not used to smartphones and need something very basic.
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Ok, name me another feature phone that has:
1. MS Office
2. Netflix streaming
3. slingbox
4. 3d games
5. exchange support
Just because it doesn't meet your needs, doesn't make it a featurephone.
It indeed has some nice features, but as long it does not have:
- a file explorer,
- an easy way to manage Office files
- an easy way to send Office and pdf files
- USB drive
- Skydrive client on the phone
I don't find it business oriented enough
I had Desire and Desire Z, so both Android smartphones, well first, I loved them, but that flashing game to get better Android sucks. And With each rom, official or not I got bugs. Well, now I have Omnia7 and it's really awesome. Music player, messaging, people hubs are super! It's a great OS which was created to get things done fast. Android is created to root, install roms and get ****ed up one day. Well, I hope that many other Android users will get bored with flashy thing and grow up one day. People, don't you have anything better to do, instead of flashing roms? And creating them? Company creates OS, and developers makes apps. And with android we have, that Google creates OS, which is **** and needs things like Sense and etc. to look not like cheap **** and then users, developers creates Roms. People, create apps not roms, if you want to create OS go and Create your own or join other companies.
So my opinion about WP7: very good Os, needs some updates to get some features that are lacking and more apps )) Which will come eventually ;]
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It indeed has some nice features, but as long it does not have:
- a file explorer,
- an easy way to manage Office files
- an easy way to send Office and pdf files
- USB drive
- Skydrive client on the phone
I don't find it business oriented enough
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Well, these features like explorer will come one day. And I realized that I don't need them. All my things like music and pictures are synced with zune, which is awesome. And because it's not Android I don't install ****s like Roms and etc, so file transfer is not needed for me :]
Niiceg said:
I had Desire and Desire Z, so both Android smartphones, well first, I loved them, but that flashing game to get better Android sucks. And With each rom, official or not I got bugs. Well, now I have Omnia7 and it's really awesome. Music player, messaging, people hubs are super! It's a great OS which was created to get things done fast. Android is created to root, install roms and get ****ed up one day. Well, I hope that many other Android users will get bored with flashy thing and grow up one day. People, don't you have anything better to do, instead of flashing roms? And creating them? Company creates OS, and developers makes apps. And with android we have, that Google creates OS, which is **** and needs things like Sense and etc. to look not like cheap **** and then users, developers creates Roms. People, create apps not roms, if you want to create OS go and Create your own or join other companies.
So my opinion about WP7: very good Os, needs some updates to get some features that are lacking and more apps )) Which will come eventually ;]
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Gimme a break. There is nothing bad in wanting to squash from your phone more than it gave you out of the box. Now you sound like some iPhone user
"Simply is simply better cause it's simply and I don't need nothing more". We spend hundrets of dollars to buy a capable phone, not a pretty device capable of doing things that prehistoric people did ;/.
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It indeed has some nice features, but as long it does not have:
- a file explorer,
- an easy way to manage Office files
- an easy way to send Office and pdf files
- USB drive
- Skydrive client on the phone
I don't find it business oriented enough
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neither was iphone or android on first release. It will take time. I can't blame MS for taking this approach. Business users were not keeping winmo numbers up enough by themselves (along with the techies). So they are trying entertainment first with business features coming.
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Gimme a break. There is nothing bad in wanting to squash from your phone more than it gave you out of the box. Now you sound like some iPhone user
"Simply is simply better cause it's simply and I don't need nothing more". We spend hundrets of dollars to buy a capable phone, not a pretty device capable of doing things that prehistoric people did ;/.
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Nothing wrong with trying to get more out of your phone.
Something wrong with HAVING to install fixes right out of the box.
Here is our text chat on his reason. What y'all think?
(Him) Just sold the evos 3d for $300 a piece
(Me)Online?
(Him)Yep
(Me) So you down grading to the ifail 4s.
(Him) I love it better than android. For someone that had android first
(Me) Tell me what you love about it.
(Him) It works when I need it. Plus my laptop iPad and phone can be sync together It's easier to use The apps are better made And more stable
From the official iPhone killer.
The only valid reason is the sync between Ipad,MacBook,iPhone
Otherwise its not, the quality of the apps is dependent on the app developer, and they both work and do about the same things.
I don't mind people preferring iOS, I don't but if he does that's fine.
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In ten seconds. Apple +1 Android +20
Let us know how many days he lasted until he returned his iPhone and got back on android.
I raised the same close community circle question before i got rid of my Photon and ultimately got this awesome E4GT. Should I look at the iPhone or stick with Android
One acquaintance's argument for getting his iPhone was "because it just works"...I couldn't respond to that meat filled rock solid argument, so I got the E4GT.
In the end it is certainly preference between how the device will scale over time and I would get bored with an app drawer interface real quick!
I like to compare iPhones and Androids in the same manner as I would compare model airplanes. One one hand, you have the Snap-It model airplanes (iPhone) that are easy, you don't have to use glue, virtually no skill is needed, and it looks like it does on the box, as the manufacturer intended, it just works. I like them for their simplicity.
On the other hand, you have higher level model airplanes that require some knowledge of cutting, sanding, gluing, and attention to detail (Android). In the hands of someone skilled (like many on this forum), it will pretty much substitute for the real thing after you've added all of the custom touches. I like them for the patience needed to fine tune every detail.
Of course, there are those in the middle who like a little bit easy, but also like to feel as if they've actually done something worth their while (iPhone jailbreakers, beginning rooters). These can go either way, they can look really good, or they can look like garbage. Two different worlds, two different crowds.
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In ten seconds. Apple +1 Android +20
Let us know how many days he lasted until he returned his iPhone and got back on android.
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It's been a week since he wasted his money and downgrading. So I will see and let you know
From the official iPhone killer.
Jye75 said:
I like to compare iPhones and Androids in the same manner as I would compare model airplanes. One one hand, you have the Snap-It model airplanes (iPhone) that are easy, you don't have to use glue, virtually no skill is needed, and it looks like it does on the box, as the manufacturer intended, it just works. I like them for their simplicity.
On the other hand, you have higher level model airplanes that require some knowledge of cutting, sanding, gluing, and attention to detail (Android). In the hands of someone skilled (like many on this forum), it will pretty much substitute for the real thing after you've added all of the custom touches. I like them for the patience needed to fine tune every detail.
Of course, there are those in the middle who like a little bit easy, but also like to feel as if they've actually done something worth their while (iPhone jailbreakers, beginning rooters). These can go either way, they can look really good, or they can look like garbage. Two different worlds, two different crowds.
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Good analogy.
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Good analogy.
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I second that, well done on the analogy.
A guy sold his saws-all and got a hand saw, I asked him why he said "It just works"
Its like throwing out the bait caster reel (yes there is a learning curve) and using a bamboo rod to fish, meh "It just works"
"It just works" is a reason when you have no reason.
I hope they have a healthy credit card (for the app store) and good eyesight (screen). That's what it boiled down to for me. You should start laying wagers on how long it will take until they come back to Android.
If the iPhone works better for him, then great. It is a phone, not a competition. There is no reason to be offended if someone likes a different phone than you.
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"it just works" is a pretty valid excuse for any idiot to purchase an iphone.
Jye75 said:
I like to compare iPhones and Androids in the same manner as I would compare model airplanes. One one hand, you have the Snap-It model airplanes (iPhone) that are easy, you don't have to use glue, virtually no skill is needed, and it looks like it does on the box, as the manufacturer intended, it just works. I like them for their simplicity.
On the other hand, you have higher level model airplanes that require some knowledge of cutting, sanding, gluing, and attention to detail (Android). In the hands of someone skilled (like many on this forum), it will pretty much substitute for the real thing after you've added all of the custom touches. I like them for the patience needed to fine tune every detail.
Of course, there are those in the middle who like a little bit easy, but also like to feel as if they've actually done something worth their while (iPhone jailbreakers, beginning rooters). These can go either way, they can look really good, or they can look like garbage. Two different worlds, two different crowds.
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Can not be explained any better!
+1
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"it just works" is a pretty valid excuse for any idiot to purchase an iphone.
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To add to that, some people prefer iPhone bcoz its easy to use. Well if they think they are children/90 year olds then surely iPhone is great for them!
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Its funny my 3 year old daughter knows her way around mine and her sisters' android phones.
I played around with my brother ifail it feels to restricted to me. Can't do half the basic things my epic can do. The fact it has a only built in battery is a no no for me. I can't see my self ever owing an ifail. Apple is just a phone wanting to be an Android.
From the official iPhone killer.
Well He is correct about the sync smoothness. Everything iCrap makes has seamless sync. Thats all iCrap has going for it compared to Android. Not to mention the proprietarinism of iCrap.
BTW, ask him what does he do when he needs more ROM or a replacement battery. Also ask him how many Widgets he is using.
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BTW, ask him what does he do when he needs more ROM or a replacement battery. Also ask him how many Widgets he is using.
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this is stupid because he obviously doesn't have a care in the world about roms, widgets, or replacement batteries. not a single **** is given.
i get faster data speeds than iphone than the epic touch. Something is wrong with the modem/radio on the touch
Honestly, from switching over to the iphone 4s this past weekend, iphone 5 here i come.
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this is stupid because he obviously doesn't have a care in the world about roms, widgets, or replacement batteries. not a single **** is given.
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when he said ROM, i think he meant Read-Only Memory (storage space).
this is a huge issue at my sprint store. people bringing back 16GB iphones constantly, "doesn't hold as much as my android did, need a bigger iPhone"
i don't take offense when people want an iPhone. it is a very well built device. but i do have a few problems with their decisions
1. It is NEVER based on fact. its based on whats popular, how awesome their friends told them it was. same with the htc evo. it was a great phone no doubt, but FACTUALLY, the samsung epic 4g had better hardware. people just knew the evo name.
2. I ask each and every customer what the reason is for choosing the iPhone, so that we may determine together what is the best choice for them. the ONLY viable reason, "i already own a mac and an iPad". Wonderful, let me ring that up for you. if you already have heavily invested into the Apple Ecosystem, there is no reason to have an android. but most of them dont have one. its cool? thats a pretty hefty investment for cool...
3. "it just works" or "it doesn't have any problems". FALSE. last week, i had a customer tell me his iphone was superior to my E4GT because "iphones NEVER freeze, but every android ive seen does". The argument was concluded in .08 seconds on google. every device has its problems. at my store, there have been MORE iphone problems than E4GT problems (we are also a repair store). at a sister store, just the opposite. so "working better" is NOT a valid argument...
4. Apple's business ethics rival that of Enron. a poster said earlier that its not a competition. you're right, because apple CANT compete. you can gauge their level of fear in relation to the lawsuits and doctored photos they have. how many lawsuits between samsung lg htc motorola? they just try to outperform... not put each other out of business. and if they DID put each other out of business, it would be ''may the best man win''. not, ''shut em down because im scared to lose sales''.
5. finally, if youre ok getting on board with a completely closed OS, thats fine. but then, my average customer, wants to know how to make their iphone do what their buddys s2, RAZR, or htc can do. (see uninformed decision). i just dont want anyone telling ME what to do with MY stuff once ive paid for it. would you buy a tv from a company that told you what channels to watch? i wouldnt. but if so, get an Apple TV LOL
/rant
have a great day!
You get a phone that is a standard but you also watch what others do with the standard.
BTW you don't need good headphones that last or that can compete.
I enjoy, CM9 and all roms but I don't get why everyone says it's "awesome" or "amazing" when you wont notice the actual difference until after using it for a day or two? Which normally people post it and want it the second it's released.
"I want new features (Galaxy S III "hand gestures")
It's all the same and depends on the setup.The kernel, rom , hardware ect... not trying to be a **** but those words attract "Myself". i'm a fool but i only get to decide for myself and normally it takes a day or two to realize my personal preferences. And figure out who is "amazing" when stock is the same.
"OOOOhh Yeeeahh" Rooot accseess where is my linux built in...? I will learn some day for now you can kick my ass for talking ****".!
This rom is awesome reminds me of why i flashed three or four "different" rom's to my phone to come across a "amazing one". actually i've flashed so many roms to many "different" phones to find this out.... which is why i'm writing this.. sense before i joined these words made me realize i need to ask this question.
Why use the words amazing or sweet. or awesome? is it some low level marketing trying to catch users? cuz they are like blam flashed this its sweet amazing fast. If you don't understand fragmentation then you don't understand android...
remember this taboo that came out which was "supposed to be" a Microsoft stompper.. "Linux" haha guess who could turn that **** into the same type of product. Love you big fish "google"! I heart you.
Gosh there is one person who owns 400 devices just so they could make the "app" compatible. This idea took 20 years for Microsoft to master with its ****ing drivers and ppop wtf.
All i'm saying is ide like a little less marketing and a little more truth. I'm sure I wont get that off this fake ass linux fragmentation hello billionaire Microsoft wanna bee.
Make this a ****ing Linux distro, at least they are focused,
Interesting....
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Slie said:
You get a phone that is a standard but you also watch what others do with the standard.
BTW you don't need good headphones that last or that can compete.
I enjoy, CM9 and all roms but I don't get why everyone says it's "awesome" or "amazing" when you wont notice the actual difference until after using it for a day or two? Which normally people post it and want it the second it's released.
"I want new features (Galaxy S III "hand gestures")
It's all the same and depends on the setup.The kernel, rom , hardware ect... not trying to be a **** but those words attract "Myself". i'm a fool but i only get to decide for myself and normally it takes a day or two to realize my personal preferences. And figure out who is "amazing" when stock is the same.
"OOOOhh Yeeeahh" Rooot accseess where is my linux built in...? I will learn some day for now you can kick my ass for talking ****".!
This rom is awesome reminds me of why i flashed three or four "different" rom's to my phone to come across a "amazing one". actually i've flashed so many roms to many "different" phones to find this out.... which is why i'm writing this.. sense before i joined these words made me realize i need to ask this question.
Why use the words amazing or sweet. or awesome? is it some low level marketing trying to catch users? cuz they are like blam flashed this its sweet amazing fast. If you don't understand fragmentation then you don't understand android...
remember this taboo that came out which was "supposed to be" a Microsoft stompper.. "Linux" haha guess who could turn that **** into the same type of product. Love you big fish "google"! I heart you.
Gosh there is one person who owns 400 devices just so they could make the "app" compatible. This idea took 20 years for Microsoft to master with its ****ing drivers and ppop wtf.
All i'm saying is ide like a little less marketing and a little more truth. I'm sure I wont get that off this fake ass linux fragmentation hello billionaire Microsoft wanna bee.
Make this a ****ing Linux distro, at least they are focused,
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My friends tried acid the other week, but it didn't work for them. Where did you get yours?
I literally have no idea what this post it about.
Drugs.. Do better,
Typical, haha every time I Post, that's all you have is that I'm "High" hate my opinion or not. Like what you want I have no matter... I actually feel like I have a say to anyone who want's to listen and if no one does then you know what.
Keep your drugs and you alcohol to yourself don't try to cut me down. I didn't do anything wrong.
I'm sorry my age is not a hundred and five and I didn't invent this stuff, I'm sorry I love and have a passion for android an struggle. I follow every step and have a dream. I've never read this kind of stuff you guys post on anyone else's stuff.
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Typical, haha every time i Post, that's all you have is that I'm "High" hate my opinion or not. Like what you want I have no matter, I actually feel like I have a say to who want's to listen and if no one does then you know what.
Keep your drugs and you alcohol to yourself don't try to cut me down. I didn't do anything wrong.
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What is your point? Your OP is so fragmented and wonders off on too many tangents, I primarily can't be bothered to reread and try to make sense of it.
You're whining about Android fragmentation and saying you'd rather have an Ubuntu distro bundled with phones?
*Edit* I mean Linux distro.
Ubuntu...
Noo Noo, I'm mostly talking about how my phone is standard, i dreamed i would do something with my nexus seeing as how it was from google. I soon get the phone and find all it is, is standard. You get the phone, lovely but after you get it all you do is watch other phones come out. Using less hardware to do better things.
I'm saying this as a repetitive google customer, and I rely on ports and other roms. I am trying to learn i know its a pathetic thing but i just wish others see what i see. If they don't i would hope my point i great and they would tell me how to help.
The google phones should dominate not be standard and I want to know how to not only root but make full use of a linux kernel space on any android not just how it is.
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FNM
Hi,
So this is a post to say how I have become disillusioned with my WP7.5 device.
I love the HD7 with WP7.5, for what it does, it does it well and it fits my one required:
"Feels like a well integrated phone device"
Unlike Android phones which feel like I am looking at a nerdy linux desktop (which is cool) but I just want to use a device that feels like a single device.
What I have become disillusioned about is the vagueness from Microsoft around Windows Phone devices, the sudden departure of something like Chevron Unlock which really pissed a lot of us developers off and slow response to the changing market.
My device is great but the OS has flaws, like why the hell is there one volume for all OS sections?
Why is when I look at a contact the phone number (the most important bit) is a tiny font?
There is a raft of other stuff like that out there. Other stuff it does really well though and I have always been impressed by it which is why I will keep my device and use it for development but I will be honest, I have a Sony Xperia S phone as well now which is getting rooted tonight and may well end up in more use.
Cool Story, So...
So if you want to take hours off your life, meaninglessly tweaking your phone's OS, then you're so in the wrong boat. I ran myself so wacko for almost 2 years on Android, and WM before it. So I'm quite happy with life this way. The white-on-black theme in most apps makes the text stand out so much better to me, regardless of size.
So I also don't understand why you're so concerned about not being able to see a contact's phone number so well. It says so in big white letters above it, "Call Mobile" (etc.). So if you want to call them by number then open the dial pad instead.
So I actually love the one-for-all volume setting, as opposed to the Android "Media volume", that you can't even readily control unless / until you're playing something (except if you opt for a battery-sucking widget to track it)... then good luck remembering where you last left it.
LOL Always love how iOS and WP7ers slate Android for actually giving you options on what you do with your phone. LOL
It has many flaws, but the customising options are certainly not one of them.
My 15 month old HD7 still works, even after hearing about IOS6, Jellybean, and me only getting 7.8 instead of WP8....sorry to hear about yours ....
Sent from The ACSyndicate Tower using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
Arthur Hucksake said:
LOL Always love how iOS and WP7ers slate Android for actually giving you options on what you do with your phone. LOL
It has many flaws, but the customising options are certainly not one of them.
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Thanks for the input Arthur. Its nice to know that there's always a fandroid waiting in the wings, simply itching to sling his penneth worth into the fray. I mean if you didnt hang around in the forums of the other platforms then you wouldnt be able to defend your favoured O/S so vehemently now would you.
I'm just surprised you have the time, when you should be scouring the net for the radio or ROM that will finally make your device work properly
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Creamy
I agree with ballanda123 about the phone number font, "call to mobile" has a big font, you can easily press it
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Thanks for the input Arthur. Its nice to know that there's always a fandroid waiting in the wings, simply itching to sling his penneth worth into the fray. I mean if you didnt hang around in the forums of the other platforms then you wouldnt be able to defend your favoured O/S so vehemently now would you.
I'm just surprised you have the time, when you should be scouring the net for the radio or ROM that will finally make your device work properly
Kind Regards,
Creamy
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But you CAN do that. That is my point. You have the option of customising everything, including the software on the handset.
I have a HTC Titan btw, so i'm not a fandroid. I just don't see how having real options as being a bad thing.
I think the OP has a point - WP could use another Mango-style update, where MS fix lots of minor issues.
e.g. two small issues that I come across every day:
When I forward an email, I cannot edit the original text. I use copy and paste as a workaround - anyone else got a better solution?
Agree with OP about the volume controls. My WP is now my main portable audio player, either with headphones or standalone speaker. I have to keep the volume high because the headphone jack volume is relatively low. System sounds, such as calendar alerts, become very loud! Maybe some type of normalisation could also fix this.
It's basically a symptom of WP being a new OS, with only one major update so far since launch. Hopefully, MS will address the small issues in WP8 as well as adding headline features.
Overall, WP8 for me to be my choice of OS for the next phone, has to:
a) stop playing this catch up. May be make all the well paid engineers and designers for once sit around a table, with a cuppa, give them iPhone, Android AND BBs and say "Right lads, use these toys and we want EVERY FREAKING FEATURE that they keep boasting about. We don't want exactly like that, but we want it better".
b) give some headline features. Again in that same round table talk, someone should stand up and say "Yeah mate, I get all that feature crap. We will load this WP8 with all the trivival 2005 features including even that freaking bluetooth transfer that they moan about, BUT lets also add 15 NEW features that none of these toys seem to have"
Come on, HOW hard can it be to at least make a list of features we don't have compared to other OS and add a few on top of it.
If WP8 after all these backlash, WP7.8 fiasco and kernel change melodrama is still going to be a catch waste game, I am happy with my WP7.5 Titan. Can't keep shelling out money in hope of "In future we will have..."
As long as OP's post goes - I partially agree. If certain features don't rock your boat, it just doesn't. He hasn't made those stereotypical post about 'oh my days, I don't have that bird games latest version, I hate the phone'.
I still don't get it. All these posters who are belly-aching about their phones not doing this or not getting that. Were these problems not present BEFORE last Wednesday? Did Ballmer send out a "Death-Ray" virus to all WP7 phones to cripple them? You either loved your phone or you didn't. You either hated your phone or you didn't. There's obviously no middle ground, judging from these threads, so go on with your lives people! Until I can attach a PDF to an email I can't go back to WP7 and I LOVE the OS whether it gets 7.8 or 10.9 or whatever.
People got so caught up with the rumors and now they can't see the trees for the forest because they're so pissed. Ask yourself one stupid question: does this phone do what I saw it to do the day I bought it? If the answer is yes......
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I still don't get it. All these posters who are belly-aching about their phones not doing this or not getting that. Were these problems not present BEFORE last Wednesday? Did Ballmer send out a "Death-Ray" virus to all WP7 phones to cripple them? You either loved your phone or you didn't. You either hated your phone or you didn't. There's obviously no middle ground, judging from these threads, so go on with your lives people! Until I can attach a PDF to an email I can't go back to WP7 and I LOVE the OS whether it gets 7.8 or 10.9 or whatever.
People got so caught up with the rumors and now they can't see the trees for the forest because they're so pissed. Ask yourself one stupid question: does this phone do what I saw it to do the day I bought it? If the answer is yes......
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I think you've vented in the wrong thread
What most of us who've posted here mean as a median sentiment is:
We love the phone as it is, however, there were bits of things here and there which we thought might improve in follow up updates. However, now that won't improve for sure. So although we love the phone as it is, it will be a gamble to jump on WP8 with wishful features.
I for one, won't jump to WP8, if I can't attach a PDF to email, if I can't edit email that I forward, if I can't get more than 1 month worth of emails synced in hotmail, if I can't get Skydrive better integrated. NOT because I don't like the OS, but because I think these feature are something that could have been addressed in WP7.6/7.7/7.8/7.9 - but now that there is only on WP7.8 which most likely wont address this.
AND if WP8 will be the same story, I would rather wait out till I see a "basic" feature complete phone before I leave WP7 for WP8.
One thing MSFT has taught me is: Buy our phones for what they are. Not for what we make you dream you could do. This is when I've realised the evil of closed source software. With open source, other devs can add/remove feature look at Cynogenmods (and bugs too at times!). BUT with WP, even if devs want they cant add features that easily and flawlessly.
Still at the end of the day, I am a HUGE WP fan and love the way they are pushing forward BUT I am a consumer first, end user next.
agree with drupad. i still love my titan and the screen and smoothness of how it works. when i got the phone everyone was talking about the future and developement and new apps and no fragmentation etc. in one fell swoop all that got swept away.apps like iplayer, tvcatchup,poweramp, banking,don't look like they are going to happen. so many people have their own favorites they are not going to see. i was fortunate in my contract staggers that renewal coincided with my titan and now also my one x(the first android i've owned).i also have a renewal due with w8 release but unless i'm convinced otherwise i'll be looking else where.previous to the titan i was on a TP2. so i've experienced MS OS customer care before.they keep chasing and promising.would be nice to see them deliver.
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Overall, WP8 for me to be my choice of OS for the next phone, has to:
a) stop playing this catch up. May be make all the well paid engineers and designers for once sit around a table, with a cuppa, give them iPhone, Android AND BBs and say "Right lads, use these toys and we want EVERY FREAKING FEATURE that they keep boasting about. We don't want exactly like that, but we want it better".
b) give some headline features. Again in that same round table talk, someone should stand up and say "Yeah mate, I get all that feature crap. We will load this WP8 with all the trivival 2005 features including even that freaking bluetooth transfer that they moan about, BUT lets also add 15 NEW features that none of these toys seem to have"
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As much as yours makes sense, it won't happen
drupad2drupad said:
I think you've vented in the wrong thread
What most of us who've posted here mean as a median sentiment is:
We love the phone as it is, however, there were bits of things here and there which we thought might improve in follow up updates. However, now that won't improve for sure. So although we love the phone as it is, it will be a gamble to jump on WP8 with wishful features.
I for one, won't jump to WP8, if I can't attach a PDF to email, if I can't edit email that I forward, if I can't get more than 1 month worth of emails synced in hotmail, if I can't get Skydrive better integrated. NOT because I don't like the OS, but because I think these feature are something that could have been addressed in WP7.6/7.7/7.8/7.9 - but now that there is only on WP7.8 which most likely wont address this.
AND if WP8 will be the same story, I would rather wait out till I see a "basic" feature complete phone before I leave WP7 for WP8.
One thing MSFT has taught me is: Buy our phones for what they are. Not for what we make you dream you could do. This is when I've realised the evil of closed source software. With open source, other devs can add/remove feature look at Cynogenmods (and bugs too at times!). BUT with WP, even if devs want they cant add features that easily and flawlessly.
Still at the end of the day, I am a HUGE WP fan and love the way they are pushing forward BUT I am a consumer first, end user next.
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No, I vented on the correct thread. Look at the OP, he states he loves his phone but goes on to say how "disillusioned" he is now. What changed? Did he wake up one day and realize he made a bad purchase? Probably not but there a lot of posters who have railed at MS for not giving them what they THOUGHT they were going to get. I'm with you on the PDF situation. As I posted, I'm not going back in unless this primary need is met. But I realized this shortcoming before the announcement last week. I was using a workaround with Handyscan but the camera in the DVP is simply atrocious so that was no longer a suitable option. I miss my Dell but I can't afford to be without this basic function so I'll plod through another year or whatever with WinMo until Adobe gets its act straight. Yes, I blame Adobe because I can attach Handyscan PDF's to email so it ain't Outlook.
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What I have become disillusioned about is the vagueness from Microsoft around Windows Phone devices, the sudden departure of something like Chevron Unlock which really pissed a lot of us developers off and slow response to the changing market.
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To be fair, I think the OP explains why he is becoming 'disillusioned'.
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My device is great but the OS has flaws
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You either loved your phone or you didn't. You either hated your phone or you didn't. There's obviously no middle ground, judging from these threads
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The OP says his device is great but the OS has some flaws. This sounds like 'middle ground' to me.
WP8 will go hard with features and here's why: it is based on the NT kernel. The NT kernel supports far more hardware and software features than the current CE kernel. Its true that the CE kernel once did have all the features we're clamoring for but with a major performance hit. This won't be the case with the NT kernel.
My primary annoyance with my experience with Android was mainly the constant customization that was available. It was fun for the first couple of months, but I ended up constantly changing things because I couldn't decide on what I liked.
I switched over to WP7 last December and it's been a god-send for me. The design is simple yet effective, and I appreciate how MS limited the amount of customization I could do. It kept me focused on actually enjoying the phone and OS for what it was for once.
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To be fair, I think the OP explains why he is becoming 'disillusioned'.
The OP says his device is great but the OS has some flaws. This sounds like 'middle ground' to me.
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Yep.
I still enjoy it and most importantly, it works, with it's flaws, it still does most things right.
I just wish MS take note and try to incorporate good bits from other phone OSes. I know they want to go it alone and prove they can build a decent mobile OS but it's still in it's early days (trust me as a developer who has worked with WP7.5 I feel it's got a long way to go).
However Microsoft have a strategy and I am sure with Windows 8 being released into the wild and the zoo we call the "Corporate Enterprise" it should finally come together as a common platform (Microsoft Technology, Microsoft Desktops, Microsoft Mobile Connectivity).
It's a changing landscape as well, don't forget the dawn of the pads is already upon us and again Microsoft was slow to respond (but respond they did with what could be a set of stunning Win8 mobile devices...I hope).
Well I got my Xperia P here and to be honest it's just too cluttered for me, feels like my linux desktop and not a well integrated phone OS (mind you Sony have done a pretty good job at trying to make it feel like a smart phone device).
This leaves me with Apple iPhone 5, which I might consider if it weren't for the fact that I think under all that fluff the stuff is ****. But they have executed the whole package well and if there is one thing the likes of MS and the multitude of Jap Manufacturers can learn it's how to make a consumer device and platform properly.
IF Nokia don't seriously effk things up, the Lumia 900 or the next Nokia WP8 device is on my list.
Is the Windows Phone 7 forum now a personal therapy forum? Does everyone that all of a sudden wants more features AFTER they've bought the phone really need to start a new thread? Hey people BEFORE you buy a phone check it out and see whether it can do the critical functions you want. If you still want to ***** about the lack of one feature or another find the appropriate thread in the sea of billions of other whiners and add to that one. This is getting so tiresome.
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Is the Windows Phone 7 forum now a personal therapy forum? Does everyone that all of a sudden wants more features AFTER they've bought the phone really need to start a new thread? Hey people BEFORE you buy a phone check it out and see whether it can do the critical functions you want. If you still want to ***** about the lack of one feature or another find the appropriate thread in the sea of billions of other whiners and add to that one. This is getting so tiresome.
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Couldn't agree more. Hope you have some bibs handy.