Hi folks,
I have a HTC One M8 that is registered with HTCDev and also S-Off (courtesy of the awesome sunshine tool). In the settings app, I have a red text telling me this is now a test device and all my data are belong to HTC. (As someone posted here months ago.)
I am not sure if I want to cripple the Udove.apk because I'm concerned about the next OTA update. Is there a way to "unregister" with HTC or more technically, relock the bootloader without loosing S-Off? Is there a way to determine I have a stock hboot if I'm not sure if I messed with it in the process?
Thanks for reading
This really is just a follow-on of your other thread, so I don't know why you started a new one.
The phone will come up as a test device since its s-off. Relocking the bootloader won't change that, nor will it effect s-off.
Try to freeze the app with Titanium. Or remove it now, and revert to the stock ROM when its OTA time.
redpoint73 said:
This really is just a follow-on of your other thread, so I don't know why you started a new one.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I did not mean to offend anyone, I was just thinking my question in this thread differed from the previous one and might not be found by the right people under the other title.
redpoint73 said:
The phone will come up as a test device since its s-off. Relocking the bootloader won't change that, nor will it effect s-off.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for clearing that up. I had so far been unable to figure out if this test device thing was connected to s-off, bootloader or both of them.
redpoint73 said:
Try to freeze the app with Titanium. Or remove it now, and revert to the stock ROM when its OTA time.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I could try Titanium, yes. Since my motivation to go all over several app setups is decreasing, I will avoid flashing as best as I can.
jndvid said:
I did not mean to offend anyone, I was just thinking my question in this thread differed from the previous one and might not be found by the right people under the other title.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No worries, I was not offended. But you posed similar or related questions in your other thread, so IMO its redundant to start a new thread and ask them again.
Its pretty typical for additional questions to pop up during your thread as the issue evolves and the discussion progresses. But IMO no need to create new threads as that happens.
I have HTC M8 and I want to run custom rom but have this red text.. now I am s-off and rooted, so I can delete system apps.. which apps no I need to remove so it won't sent anything to the HTC?
Thank you very much for answers...
Related
Hi all,
Really sorry if this has been asked but I'd really like everyone's opinion on rooting this device.
Like, why? Is it easy to get wrong? Can it be reversed? Is it easy to back up? Etc.
Thanks so much guys, I'm just so worried about doing it and ending up with a bricked phone. I love my Desire. I'm sure you all understand
Firstly, go to Settings>About phone>Software information and post up the Software version. If there's an RUU (ROM Upgrade Utility) available for your current version then yes it's reversable
You can't backup your phone until you've rooted, hence the importance of an RUU to get back to stock should you ever need to.
As for should you root, it's up to you. Why do you want to root?
EddyOS said:
Firstly, go to Settings>About phone>Software information and post up the Software version. If there's an RUU (ROM Upgrade Utility) available for your current version then yes it's reversable.
You can't backup your phone until you've rooted, hence the importance of an RUU to get back to stock should you ever need to.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for that!
EddyOS said:
As for should you root, it's up to you. Why do you want to root?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I heard it allows for a faster unit, more memory, better Apps2SD function, more fun with the unit, more apps etc?
Na I wouldn't bother
dieselboy said:
Na I wouldn't bother
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How come?
feedesire said:
How come?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can be time consuming. <- this is not really a valid reason
dieselboy said:
Can be time consuming. <- this is not really a valid reason
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Definitly time consuming ! This would be a valid reason is you ask my wife ...
Yes root it.
Opens the door to expand on the functionality of your Desire.
Put it this way, my desire arrived in the post in the morning, by afternoon it was rooted..
Think that says it all really. Good luck.
Wow. There are a lot of different views. Might need to let the poll decide haha.
I'm just scared, don't wanna brick it!
feedesire said:
I'm just scared, don't wanna brick it!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just read before you do it, don't begin before you understand what you do, and everything will be ok !
If you answer my first question we can let you know if there's an RUU so you can get back to stock if needed. Will take some risk out of it
EddyOS said:
If you answer my first question we can let you know if there's an RUU so you can get back to stock if needed. Will take some risk out of it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Download this to get back to stock if needed:
http://www.multiupload.com/LEJCW182AH
Nothing to stop you now, really
I rooted my Desire the same day it arrived.
Nothing to worry about, its really HARD to *@^$ up something, you shouldn't S-OFF yet tho that is bit more risky but really go for Root and Custom ROM's.
ps.
I have same RUU as you.
EddyOS said:
Download this to get back to stock if needed:
http://www.multiupload.com/LEJCW182AH
Nothing to stop you now, really
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
k3lcior said:
I rooted my Desire the same day it arrived.
Nothing to worry about, its really HARD to *@^$ up something, you shouldn't S-OFF yet tho that is bit more risky but really go for Root and Custom ROM's.
ps.
I have same RUU as you.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What does S-off do?
Have a read here: http://alpharev.nl/
But really stick to rooting yet before you learn more.
k3lcior said:
Have a read here: http://alpharev.nl/
But really stick to rooting yet before you learn more.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks! Definitely be checking all this awesome stuff out after exams
Almost wish someone could do it for me, but I know I'd be upset if I didn't do it myself
S-off allows you to change the partition layout of the phones memory and delete system apps with titanium. S-off is for advanced users who want to do special things.
To answer your question:
Rooting is not really dangerous because you can almost always go back to stock rom.
Ask yourself what you want to do with your phone. If you just want to download apps and use them then you don't need root. But if you want to try out different ROMs (Sense, Sense HD, pure, MIUI) then go ahead and root.
There is a nice video tutorial sticky in the dev forum, that shows how to root and what kinds of roms there are.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
Sent from my HTC Desire
I read and researched for a good long time before doing anything, I reccommend you do that! I definitely recommend root though, I did root and s-off and now I have:
Better battery life
no unwanted apps clogging my system
much more free ram and internal storage
a choice of any rom (I choose oxygen)
ability to r/w to any part of my device while my phone is booted.
You will read about peoploe bricking their phones and such, but it seems to me the vast majority of cases have no problems at all if you follow instructions carefully.
Hello everyone,
I have a Desire Z on T-Mobile UK that I have had for nearly a year. I have recently been looking into all the different ROMs and customizations, particularly something to clear off apps that are built into the phone and lowering the CPU usage.
This is my first Android phone and after looking at some of the rooting guides I find myself completely lost on what to do. So I guess what I am asking is what is the EASIEST, SIMPLEST method of rooting the phone, without using any kind of one click app that will brick my phone.
By the way I am playing the 'damsel in distress' card so be nice to me
Check out the second sticky in this forum. Afaik there is no "easy" method to root the DZ. Now that HTC has unlocked the bootloader, probably the easiest way would be to unlock via htcdev.com and afterwards to gain root via a one click tool. I think they are available for DZ as well, just look them up
sent from my dz
I'd stay away from HTCDEV unlocking methods.
Instead, you should go ahead and ask at the Q&A subforum. You are going to receive a lot more help than what you're going to get here.
Yeah there is no real easy method, if its something you want to do then the number one priority thing to do is 'read' and read some more, you need to familarise yourself with expressions and terms which you dont know, you need to understand the difference between s-off s-on and unlocking, read the stickies in this thread, not just once but a few times. the steps are simple, its a case of knowing what youre doing and if you have read the stickes then you should have a general idea what to do..
yes this doesnt answer your question but i cant root youre phone for you, i can only give advice
---------- Post added at 08:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:31 PM ----------
crestofawave said:
I'd stay away from HTCDEV unlocking methods.
Instead, you should go ahead and ask at the Q&A subforum. You are going to receive a lot more help than what you're going to get here.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yeah stay away from htcdev method as some users are having trouble flashing certain roms as it uses a different hboot
This guide would be your best bet
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928160
HaloTwenty3 said:
Hello everyone,
I have a Desire Z on T-Mobile UK that I have had for nearly a year. I have recently been looking into all the different ROMs and customizations, particularly something to clear off apps that are built into the phone and lowering the CPU usage.
This is my first Android phone and after looking at some of the rooting guides I find myself completely lost on what to do. So I guess what I am asking is what is the EASIEST, SIMPLEST method of rooting the phone, without using any kind of one click app that will brick my phone.
By the way I am playing the 'damsel in distress' card so be nice to me
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wrong section. You were supposed to post OP in General Questions Section.
Go to here, this is the best rooting program ever (sets S-OFF, root, sim-unlock, etc.). But, if you're on Gingerbread, you need downgrade your device's OS. Also, don't flash ENG HBOOT through it until you're pretty sure what you're doing.
Howdy! Lemme preface all of this by saying that I'm less than a noob here....really inexperienced. Here's the background......
I rooted my DInc and I can't even remember which unrevoked tool I used. I was just reading along and punching commands and when the process was done I was rooted. I installed CWM successfully and flashed to CM7.2 which I've been running for quite some time. Lately I got an itch to try a JB ROM like infected, so when I looked into it, it clearly says I need S-off to accomplish that flash so I checked and realized I was S-on still.
At this point, I added the unrevoked-forever.zip to my sdcard root and tried to flash that ZIP by way CWM and i get these error messages:
E: unsupported radio version
E: update failed. Check/sdcard/soff.log
E: error in /sdcard/unrevoked-forever.zip (Status 42)
I am running Android version 2.3.7 and radio baseband version 2.15.10.12.20
Is this one of those things that I shouldn't be trying from CM7.2 and I should've dealt with before my initial flash to CM7.2?? Basically I'm totally freakin lost and in WAAAAY over my element, so any guidance would be duly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Scott
Just going to leave this right here...
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever
Read the page, tell me what your issue is, and we'll go from there.
PonsAsinorem said:
Just going to leave this right here...
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever
Read the page, tell me what your issue is, and we'll go from there.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry....i guess it pays to be extra thorough in the description of the problem. The link you left me is the one that I followed. I researched achieving S-Off on the DInc first and found this same page in my research. I followed the process and all went smooth right up until i started to flash the unrevoked-forever.zip from my sdcard via CWM. The aforementioned error messages came up on my phone and it said the process failed.
I thought it might be because the radio baseband versions that are list as "supported" do not match mine
smvogel73 said:
I thought it might be because the radio baseband versions that are list as "supported" do not match mine
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sounds good to me. With the way HTC handles S-OFF, you don't really need it. I'd go the legit way and unlock your bootloader with HTCdev.
http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/
Edit: and for the record, you're lucky you didn't brick your device. Reading the supported requirements and ignoring them is a good way to do it.
PonsAsinorem said:
Sounds good to me. With the way HTC handles S-OFF, you don't really need it. I'd go the legit way and unlock your bootloader with HTCdev.
http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/
Edit: and for the record, you're lucky you didn't brick your device. Reading the supported requirements and ignoring them is a good way to do it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes thx....I'm gathering that! So this is where terminology gets so dang confusing for me. I didn't think unlocking my bootloader meant the same thing as achieving S-Off?? I already thought my bootloader was unlcoked, as I was able to flash CM7.2, which I didnt think I would be able to do if I had a locked bootloader. So wicked confused!!! And try as I miught to educate myself in these forums, I haven't located a sticky or guide that really thoroughly explains all the vernacular regarding android dev/modding/rooting/flashing/etc
So this other method will work with any radio baseband version then?? Or is it important to check compatibility there too??
What's the very top of your HBOOT say, UNLOCKED? Some more reading:
S-Off vs Unlocked, and flashing firmware
About Unlock and S-ON
PonsAsinorem said:
What's the very top of your HBOOT say, UNLOCKED? Some more reading:
S-Off vs Unlocked, and flashing firmware
About Unlock and S-ON
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It says "UNLOCKED" and below that it says "S-ON
Thank u for the materials too!
So after looking at those two links, it sure seems like not only is S-Off a potentially dangerous thing to do, it might also not even be necessary on the long-run. I say that carefully tho, as u just got thru telling me that flashing a new ROM against spec is a very dangerous thing to do and could potentially brick mu phone.
The ROM I'm looking to flash is Infection JB 4.2.2. The instructions say that if you're coming from. A non-AOSP ROM and are S-On that you've gotta extract boot.img and fastboot it after the ROM flash......whatever the heck that means???
smvogel73 said:
So after looking at those two links, it sure seems like not only is S-Off a potentially dangerous thing to do, it might also not even be necessary on the long-run.???
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Correct. Staying S-ON minimizes the danger. It locks your radio, and HBOOT, which are the main dangers.
smvogel73 said:
I say that carefully tho, as u just got thru telling me that flashing a new ROM against spec is a very dangerous thing to do and could potentially brick mu phone.???
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not really ROM flashing, but radio and HBOOT flashing, which is what unrevoked-forever tweaks.
I'd try to flash it one more time. When you do, what, if anything, are you wiping? You should be doing a factory reset, system, and boot wipe/format, then flash the ROM.
If that doesn't work (it might not, it's been awhile since I've worked with S-ON devices), then we'll move on to S-OFF (if you want).
Oh no.....I didn't even attempt to flash the Infection JB ROM specifically because I was not able to achieve S-Off. Whether it was intended or not, yea.....u sufficiently scared me about bricking the phone if I'm not to spec per the developer.
Are u saying I should wipe and then try to flash this ROM despite still being S-On?
Up to you. Personally, if it were me, I would try flashing the ROM with S-ON. The inc is a very friendly device, as long as you don't try to break the HBOOT and/or radios. It is next to impossible to break those with S-ON.
If you want to go S-OFF instead, grab the latest supported radio from http://dinc.does-it.net/ and then do the unrevoked-forever.
PonsAsinorem said:
Up to you. Personally, if it were me, I would try flashing the ROM with S-ON. The inc is a very friendly device, as long as you don't try to break the HBOOT and/or radios. It is next to impossible to break those with S-ON.
If you want to go S-OFF instead, grab the latest supported radio from http://dinc.does-it.net/ and then do the unrevoked-forever.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well there you have it....I will trust your wisdom (as it is far supperior to my own) and I shall flash this ROM tonight!! I already have a nandroid backup of CM7.2 that Im running, as well as a Titanium backup of all my user apps/files.
Sincerest thanks for all your help!!
Hello. Im no expert but i think Cyanogenmod is aosp so you should be good.
I was where you were 2 yrs ago when I rooted my 1st phone: a friends froyo Dinc (ahhh...froyo). A few months ago I aquired my own and went to research how to root GB and everything has changed and is now vastly more complicated. Also I think every phone has a locked bootloader but not encrypted and I think Soff is extra security since I've only encountered it on htc phones. Anyway I've managed to get my inc to Soff but its still locked, idk how lol
Sent from my ADR6300 using Tapatalk 2
I'm still new to this, so forgive me if this is a dumb question, but I can't seem to find a straight answer in other posts.
I have a VZW Htc One and I used rumrunner successfully when i was still on 4.2. Being new to rooting,etc. I wasn't thinking about the OTA update and accepted it.
I lost root according to the Root Checker app (and titanium backup says I do not have root access). When I boot to the bootloader, it shows
*** Unlocked ***
M7_WLV PVT SHIP S-OFF RH
Hboot 1.55.0000
Radio-1.12.41.1112_2
OS-2.10.605.1
My question is will the instructions on this thread still work to regain root?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2417043
If not, do I need to wait for the new rumrunner from beaups or is there another way?
If you are still S-OFF and Unlocked just push a custom recovery via fastboot and you can install SU from there. Or just flash a custom rom that is already rooted.
zetsumeikuro said:
If you are still S-OFF and Unlocked just push a custom recovery via fastboot and you can install SU from there. Or just flash a custom rom that is already rooted.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Great. Thank you. Is TWRP the consensus choice for recovery?
cope413 said:
Great. Thank you. Is TWRP the consensus choice for recovery?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I did same thing when 4.3 ota came out. I was passed. Was still s off and went into fastboot and flash tarp. After that ice been flashing every rom for etc one. Goodluck!
freckzula said:
I did same thing when 4.3 ota came out. I was passed. Was still s off and went into fastboot and flash tarp. After that ice been flashing every rom for etc one. Goodluck!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not exactly sure that that is English, but good to know it works.
Thanks.
cope413 said:
Not exactly sure that that is English, but good to know it works.
Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Whoops auto correct. Hope u understand! Lol
So is the only reason I can't post in the developer's forum is because I don't have 10 posts and therefore could potentially be a spammer?
cope413 said:
So is the only reason I can't post in the developer's forum is because I don't have 10 posts and therefore could potentially be a spammer?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, or being a new forum member, they may not know or bother to search for answers to their questions before asking ones that have been answered already.
Unfortunately many users still haven't learned this after hundereds of posts, lol.
But yeah, that is the basic idea why.
Thanks Santod. I swear I had an account on here with a bunch of posts - because you helped me with my Thunderbolt a couple years ago - but I guess not.
People like you make this place worthwhile. Glad to see you're still contributing.
Hello all,
I have some questions about rooting my phone, the HTC One M8. If someone gets a new phone like this one, backs it up after initial setup, roots and does s-off, and then does a second backup (optional).......... is there any reason why that person should need to worry about anything going wrong? I'm replacing my phone and want to know that as long as I back it up before rooting and s-off, I should never have to worry, right?
Also, once you root a phone, you can still get new OTAs right? The rooting doesn't stop that, right? Just a simple yes or no is fine.
Kindly please answer both. I appreciate all those who can shed some light! It seems that rooting is ok as long as you do it (and S-OFF) BEFORE receiving any OTAs, or that's what I think.
Thank You,
RockStar2005
RockStar2005 said:
Hello all,
I have some questions about rooting my phone, the HTC One M8. If someone gets a new phone like this one, backs it up after initial setup, roots and does s-off, and then does a second backup (optional).......... is there any reason why that person should need to worry about anything going wrong? I'm replacing my phone and want to know that as long as I back it up before rooting and s-off, I should never have to worry, right?
Also, once you root a phone, you can still get new OTAs right? The rooting doesn't stop that, right? Just a simple yes or no is fine.
Kindly please answer both. I appreciate all those who can shed some light! It seems that rooting is ok as long as you do it (and S-OFF) BEFORE receiving any OTAs, or that's what I think.
Thank You,
RockStar2005
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
part of rooting is a custom recovery which can block ota's from installing. sometimes the updates can manually be flashed or you can just revert to a stock recovery temporarily but changes to your system can also block the install. as far as the backups it's what ever your comfortable with - I never bother with backups of the stock software and I've never needed one.
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
lampel said:
part of rooting is a custom recovery which can block ota's from installing. sometimes the updates can manually be flashed or you can just revert to a stock recovery temporarily but changes to your system can also block the install. as far as the backups it's what ever your comfortable with - I never bother with backups of the stock software and I've never needed one.
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok thank Lampel!
RockStar2005
I have questions pertaining to Rooting the HTC One M8 aswell.
I moved from Samsung's Galaxy line of phones and have always Rooted without hesitation. Reasons being, I have become comfortable with the way they work and am confident I can return it to Stock (no modded counters on it or whatever), if I need to bring it back to my carrier for some reason.
Now I just got my M8, and definitely want to Root it, but all the new terms for HTC phones confuse me a little. Things I need to know before going forward with Rooting are:
1) What is "S-Off"/'S-On"? And what does it mean?
2) If I Root, can I bring it back to Stock where it will look like I did nothing to it so I can return to the store if I need to?
3) I know there are risks when Rooting, but are there things that become "broken" or don't work because of Rooting? Examples would be like Sony's Xperia devices, the Bravia Engine stops working, and so does the Camera (for some models). Those things become "broken" as a security feature for Sony. Did HTC do anything similar?
4) Anything else you might think I need to know before Rooting?
Thanks in advance!
leo9891 said:
1) What is "S-Off"/'S-On"? And what does it mean?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not 100% certain on the other questions but maybe I can help with your first question.
Security-ON / Security-OFF. These settings seem specific to HTC. When you purchase a new phone, it will be S-On. This basically means that there are specific areas of your phone that you won't be able to touch, even with root access. However, you can alter the system, boot, and recovery partitions with root access and S-On. S-Off will allow access to the radio and other partitions that you won't be able to access with S-On. S-Off also allows you to change the splash screen. You can check your S-on/S-off status by booting into fastboot (power off phone, press volume down and power until you see the white fastboot screen).
It is my understanding that in order to get S-Off on newer HTC One M8's, Sunshine (http://theroot.ninja/) can be used but it does cost $25. The htcdev.com site has more information on S-On/S-Off along with warnings of why you may not want to go with S-Off here: http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/about_unlock_process.
janderia said:
I'm not 100% certain on the other questions but maybe I can help with your first question.
Security-ON / Security-OFF. These settings seem specific to HTC. When you purchase a new phone, it will be S-On. This basically means that there are specific areas of your phone that you won't be able to touch, even with root access. However, you can alter the system, boot, and recovery partitions with root access and S-On. S-Off will allow access to the radio and other partitions that you won't be able to access with S-On. S-Off also allows you to change the splash screen. You can check your S-on/S-off status by booting into fastboot (power off phone, press volume down and power until you see the white fastboot screen).
It is my understanding that in order to get S-Off on newer HTC One M8's, Sunshine (http://theroot.ninja/) can be used but it does cost $25. The htcdev.com site has more information on S-On/S-Off along with warnings of why you may not want to go with S-Off here: http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader/about_unlock_process.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thanks for your reply, took a day or two after i posted to grab the concept of S-Off/S-On. I'm used to Samsung devices where all you needed was root, and you can do anything.