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Hello,
I have just took the plunge and bought the Samsung galaxy note 2 instead of a nexus 4. As you will see from the signature I own a galaxy nexus and love a bit of rooting. I have had a look at the rom's available over the past few days, the one that takes my fancy is JellyBam. What I am looking for is a rom with icons like my gnexus (or preferably not touch wiz ) but maintains the features Samsung have implemented i.e the multi tasking, S-pen compatibility and other handy touch wiz features without the ugly interface.
I am looking for a bit of advice as i'm not particularly familiar with the developers for the phone, obviously AOKP , CM , and Paranoid Android brings back memories. From what I have said above can anyone recommend any Rom's which would fit the bill. Batter life isn't a real issue, stability with speed and customization features hit the top of the list which JellyBam seems to offer. The most important feature is the duel screen multi-tasking which I wish to keep. Also any advice on kernel choice would be great as trinity kernel's arn't avilable.
Much appreciated for your advice and I can't wait to give a contribution to the community on this awesome phone,
Thanks J

What kind of ROM you running ? Stock or AOSP ?

Just got my Note 2 last night Awesome device, a bit bigger than my old international One X running CM10, but getting used to size. I rooted it out of the box, man it was the easiest quickest root ever for me. Just installed a stock ROM and simple ICS blue theme to start off, and try out the S-Pen and Touchwiz features. So far so good, running on Straight Talk ATT sim, very fast, great service today so far. .
I have been on stock AOSP Android for years, Nexus-One, Nexus-S, Galaxy Nexus, One X running CM10. I did have the Galaxy S II running a good stock Touchwiz ROM and heavily ICS theme which I liked a lot.
Curious what are you running ? Stock Touchwiz based ROM, or AOSP CM10.1 ROM ? I love AOSP, but are any of the CM10 based ROM's for the Note II good enough as a daily ROM with little bugs ? But AOSP ROM's on the Note II get rid of all the S-Pen features and note writing ? I mean the S-Pen is a big deal on the Note phones, would suck to lose all those features, but then again AOSP is awesome if a good stable and quality ROM.
Of the AOSP ROM's which one for our Note II is the most stable, and offer custom DPI and cool features above and beyond just stock nightly CM10.1 ? And of the stock Touchwiz ROM's which is your favorite, with cool themes and dark apps ? So many to chose from
I am using Nova launcher, and makes the phone look more stock, with cool features, and the 6 x 6 grid fits the Note perfectly. I am shocked actually with Nova on a stock rom, it does feel act very much like stock AOSP.
Thank you

When im still on note 1, i keep changing rom in between aosp or tw custom rom. Aosp or cm rom give my note 1 lag free and smooth experienced. But im personally will get boring after 1 or 2 days with those rom. That was because those aosp make my note 1 just similar to other bigger screen devices. Without tw or spen features i cant see any special of my note 1. Since im personally using a lot of photo editing for my daily job.
When came to note 2. Im totally never consider any other type of rom beside Tw based rom. Even note2 still using A9 chips. But with quadcore+2gb ram strong hardware spec, now a days all tw based rom available are just running smooth and responsive as other type of rom.
Therefore, im personally will comment that, i bought note 2 not only the bigger screen. The main point drive me to bought note 2 is about the features and the great utilities of spen on snote.
Without spen features, it just a normal large screen devices. I dont see the point why i would buy note 2 if i would go other type of rom beside tw based rom.
Indeed, everyone have their own choice and taste and nothing wrong at all. Maybe some of them just like the bigger screen only and prefer the pure android experienced. But all this depend on different person of choices. Nothing to argue.
I has tried so many snote replacement app on my note 1. But at the the moment, still no single app able to come close to origin snote.
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AOSP Roms vs Stock Touchwiz on the Note 2

So had my note 2 for a couple of months now, and love it. I'm using stock (but rooted) 4.1.1.
I've got Apex launcher and most icons and stuff skinned to AOSP, though I miss some of the AOSP apps and the look and feel around the device of AOSP.
What would I miss if I left touchwiz? The rom needs to be *rock solid* stable as well - I'm only moving if it feels as smooth as stock!
Suggestions?

from my experience:
Stock advantages:
better Camera, Camcorder with slow motion video, everything regarding Spen that is going beyond simple gestures, Spen software even though you can get replacements for that (like Papyrus instead of SNote), Allshare Cast and working MHL and HDMI output through dock, multiwindow
AOSP advantages:
faster Speed, newer Android version including its features (for 4.2.2 you get lockscreen widgets for example), open community with many innovative design ideas like PIE Navigation or PA hybrid engine and the like, AOSP look (if that's your thing, it is for me), a lot less bloatware -> choose what you want to install
They are both as stable as anything you can get in terms of ROMs. In the end it's a question of what features you want to have, if you can live without the Samsung exclusive stuff or not.

+1 mrruin
I love aosp roms but im sticking to Tw rom just for the sake of camera features. .
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Which is the most stable AOSP rom? Carbon looks nice though there's no bug list or tracker that I can find?
Also just found my device has the SDS chip so not going to be doing anything while I'm still in warranty

Imo liquid smooth is the best.U can also try slim bean 3 !
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In general I find battery life a lot better on stock roms rather than AOSP.

Honestly, you'd miss a hell lot. It would just be another phone with massive screen with AOSP. I mean sure, you get the stock android experience and all that jazz, but on Note II, I would highly recommend sticking to TW based roms.
You'd miss: A hell lot of SPen features (like Airview), Multitasking, Motion, Camera app, S Note, other apps like Polaris Office if you use that. And from my experience, far more bug free than AOSP roms - again, that's purely my experience, might be way off here.
Just get a good AOSP themed TW based ROM and AOSP apps. I'm using Project AOSP now, AllianceROM is good too, from what I hear.

I like Touchwiz based roms on this phone a lot more, not back in the s1 and s2 days, cm was way better, but now Samsung finally got there act together.
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best aosp for me - carbon ... they got nightly version as well haha
best tw based - ARHD or Wanam or Monxdified (cant go wrong with any of them)
best mix of both world - project aosp

I can confirm alliance ROM. I'm running it on a Verizon note 2 and it is the business! Keep coming back to it even during my own confusion on if I should run aosp or touchwiz
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I love aosp's thats what im using on my nexus 4, lol like i have a choice
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Personally I think you should stick to stock. All the hardware works properly then, especially the camera which has always been a problem with the open source ROMS. You DO end up with more memory and less "blo
In fact jonatton has already said it all clearly.
I'm a firm believer in the statement "My phone with custom ASOP runs so much faster, now that half the features don't work properly!!"

ASOP was a good choice on a lot of older phones where the stock ui was too heavy for the hardware. The Note II is not one of those phones. It's such a mighty beast that nothing much can really slow it down. Has anyone actually been able to fill the ram up yet? Not me that's for sure.
Sent from the mighty Note II

I have to agree that the Note 2 is a better phone running Touchwiz based ROMs. When I initially rooted my phone I went with the Note-orious Prime ROM with the Note2 Core kernel. I then decided to try another ROM so I ran my Note 2 on Pacman, Paranoid Android 3.
Sure the Paranoid ROM was amazing in its customization and had a buttery smoothness, but thats it.
I lost all pen features, s-voice which actually works brilliantly for me. I had random weird system issues. The camera sucked. Lost all voice command capabilities.
The other day I had enough, flipped back to Note-orious Prime and now wont look back.
The way I look at it is that it isnt bloatware if you actually use it.
EDIT: to add I also had atrocious battery life with the paranoid rom compared to the touchwiz.

Interesting thread.
I also might start off with a TW based ROM.
Sent from my Note II

+1 .....yup ....you are right ....hardware support is must ....im ARHD v17 ..best rom ever...few days ago posted the same post but some, so called critc's who think they are Developers ....did not like it at all :banghead:
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Been messing around with note 2 roms, and I too must say that stock tw feels best for me. I thought I don't care much for Sammy stock bloatware, but as I installed AOSP roms I started to miss my s note, air view, s Pen gestures etc. Now I tend to stick with tw based. Love phoenix, bobcat, arhd, wanamlite and assassin.
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to add on to what's already been said I've actually been bouncing back & fourth from AOSP to TW & I've ran into a little issue that has me staying with TW for permanent although I love the DPI options you get on AOSP the most important feature for me was that my Beats headphones would barely work on Aosp I'd always get complaints from people saying they could barely hear me..never happens on TW though..

*Yawn* Another best ROM thread
Thread closed.

AOSP Status News

I'm currently running Jedi on my AT&T Note 2, but I've given AOSP Roms a go here and there. After having a Galaxy Nexus for 9 months, I became quite addicted to them and have very much missed them since moving to the Note 2.
I made the move back to TouchWiz because I wasn't happy with the bugs and hardware compatibility issues on the AOSP ROMs I tried (Primarily PAC as I didn't get much time with much else). Where can I track the progress of AOSP hardware compatibility and what is the current status of it? I know that Samsung released some documentation about the SOC, but in truth how solid is it? Battery life, processing power, and camera all seemed sub-par compared to the Touchwiz roms.
Will AOSP ever be on par with Touchwiz or is this just the way things will always be?

One more question. Given that I'm on T-Mobile and want 4G, what current or upcoming phone would get closest to Nexus like support while satisfying my phablet craving (greater than 5 inch screen)?

I have tried both types of roms. I love AOSP but I love good battery life and smoothness. I would like to use multiwindow and be able to really use my phone to its full potential. What I really want is a TouchWiz AOSP hybrid that has the TW framework with AOSP customization. Sadly noone has tried it to my knowledge. Battery life on TW is best from my understanding. This is because the GPU is dedicated on TW while AOSP uses the CPU to render everything. Hence, the battery drain. Custom DPI is extremely important to me and so I can't see myself going back to touchwiz, plus its not very appealing to be honest. But the features and battery life... I would pay to have someone combine the two.

Traqic said:
I have tried both types of roms. I love AOSP but I love good battery life and smoothness. I would like to use multiwindow and be able to really use my phone to its full potential. What I really want is a TouchWiz AOSP hybrid that has the TW framework with AOSP customization. Sadly noone has tried it to my knowledge. Battery life on TW is best from my understanding. This is because the GPU is dedicated on TW while AOSP uses the CPU to render everything. Hence, the battery drain. Custom DPI is extremely important to me and so I can't see myself going back to touchwiz, plus its not very appealing to be honest. But the features and battery life... I would pay to have someone combine the two.
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Someone WAS working on it. They pretty much got TW themed like AOSP and then gave up after some issues trying to include aroma. Here is the thread if you want to take a look.

I get great battery life on liquid smooth. give it a try.
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[Q] Which ROM / Android Experience?

Hi Guys,
I have a T800 on the way (in the U.S.) and am doing my research on the device and OS/ROM options. I am relatively new to android but have a technical background (I'm a developer, and joined the xda forums back in the windows mobile days)
My main question is which ROM I should go with, options seem to include:
- Samsung's 4.4 or 5.0 releases
- Cyanogenmod or BlissPop (i.e. non-touchwiz based ROMs, if I understand correctly?)
- Ironrom or other tweaked touchwiz based ROMs, if I understand correctly
I bought this mainly as a browser / reader device to replace my (jailbroken) iPad 3, which now feels ancient and slow and has a cracked screen. The lack of RAM is pretty annoying. Also very annoyed with the brightness levels when trying to read at night, hence the OLED based tablet. I think I would like a stock android like option, however I am not super familiar with Samsung's custom UI and I would like some opinions at a high level on what the pros and cons would be going for CM vs a tweaked (de-bloated?) samsung experience.
Thanks in advance!

sethk said:
Hi Guys,
I have a T800 on the way (in the U.S.) and am doing my research on the device and OS/ROM options. I am relatively new to android but have a technical background (I'm a developer, and joined the xda forums back in the windows mobile days)
My main question is which ROM I should go with, options seem to include:
- Samsung's 4.4 or 5.0 releases
- Cyanogenmod or BlissPop (i.e. non-touchwiz based ROMs, if I understand correctly?)
- Ironrom or other tweaked touchwiz based ROMs, if I understand correctly
I bought this mainly as a browser / reader device to replace my (jailbroken) iPad 3, which now feels ancient and slow and has a cracked screen. The lack of RAM is pretty annoying. Also very annoyed with the brightness levels when trying to read at night, hence the OLED based tablet. I think I would like a stock android like option, however I am not super familiar with Samsung's custom UI and I would like some opinions at a high level on what the pros and cons would be going for CM vs a tweaked (de-bloated?) samsung experience.
Thanks in advance!
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Flashing a tweaked Touchwiz rom gives you some great things that can reduce lag and such. Those roms are for if you want a better rom whilst keeping all the Touchwiz features. Its smooth and such yes.
For CM based roms, those are what get you an stock android feel. But you will lose fingerprint scanner ability and multiwindow and some things that Touchwiz roms has. CM roms are great for the stock android feel, smoothness and has no stuttering, good battery life, customization and less ram load/usage from my experience.
I myself prefer liquid smooth rom since well it is butter smooth! Feels great and does most tasks easy and with no problems.
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Honestly I have no problems using the stock rom. Something like ironrom is a good stock option.
However just lately I've taken to running rooted stock and just debloating and removing stuff I don't need and modifying the kernel to my own needs.
Lately a ton of roms have popped up, so there's plenty of choice.
I won't use anything that loses functionality.

Thanks guys - I got my T800 and am just finishing up the stock Lollipop upgrade. Bought a 64GB microsdxc for backups etc., so I will try out common apps for a couple of days and with the feedback above I will probably give a custom ROM or two a go this weekend (after doing my homework/research in advance).