Just got my Note 2 last night Awesome device, a bit bigger than my old international One X running CM10, but getting used to size. I rooted it out of the box, man it was the easiest quickest root ever for me. Just installed a stock ROM and simple ICS blue theme to start off, and try out the S-Pen and Touchwiz features. So far so good, running on Straight Talk ATT sim, very fast, great service today so far. .
I have been on stock AOSP Android for years, Nexus-One, Nexus-S, Galaxy Nexus, One X running CM10. I did have the Galaxy S II running a good stock Touchwiz ROM and heavily ICS theme which I liked a lot.
Curious what are you running ? Stock Touchwiz based ROM, or AOSP CM10.1 ROM ? I love AOSP, but are any of the CM10 based ROM's for the Note II good enough as a daily ROM with little bugs ? But AOSP ROM's on the Note II get rid of all the S-Pen features and note writing ? I mean the S-Pen is a big deal on the Note phones, would suck to lose all those features, but then again AOSP is awesome if a good stable and quality ROM.
Of the AOSP ROM's which one for our Note II is the most stable, and offer custom DPI and cool features above and beyond just stock nightly CM10.1 ? And of the stock Touchwiz ROM's which is your favorite, with cool themes and dark apps ? So many to chose from
I am using Nova launcher, and makes the phone look more stock, with cool features, and the 6 x 6 grid fits the Note perfectly. I am shocked actually with Nova on a stock rom, it does feel act very much like stock AOSP.
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When im still on note 1, i keep changing rom in between aosp or tw custom rom. Aosp or cm rom give my note 1 lag free and smooth experienced. But im personally will get boring after 1 or 2 days with those rom. That was because those aosp make my note 1 just similar to other bigger screen devices. Without tw or spen features i cant see any special of my note 1. Since im personally using a lot of photo editing for my daily job.
When came to note 2. Im totally never consider any other type of rom beside Tw based rom. Even note2 still using A9 chips. But with quadcore+2gb ram strong hardware spec, now a days all tw based rom available are just running smooth and responsive as other type of rom.
Therefore, im personally will comment that, i bought note 2 not only the bigger screen. The main point drive me to bought note 2 is about the features and the great utilities of spen on snote.
Without spen features, it just a normal large screen devices. I dont see the point why i would buy note 2 if i would go other type of rom beside tw based rom.
Indeed, everyone have their own choice and taste and nothing wrong at all. Maybe some of them just like the bigger screen only and prefer the pure android experienced. But all this depend on different person of choices. Nothing to argue.
I has tried so many snote replacement app on my note 1. But at the the moment, still no single app able to come close to origin snote.
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AOSP interface is much better than TouchWiz. I like AOSP and waiting for a good ROM.
Aosp will be good to find the maximum level that this beast can go. So aosp is really important for this note 2.
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To be honest, although there are things about AOSP that I love, I gotta say, Samsung did a really good job this time around with TouchWiz (finally!). Although I do miss the tablet/hybrid interface of some AOSP builds, I do appreciate that everything works as it was designed in TouchWiz (S-Pen functions, hardware video, MHL output, FM radio, etc.)
I think the best for me would be if we had a hybrid TW build, or at least a fully functional tablet mode build (maybe based off of the Note 10.1?)
Always used Aosp ... but IMMO it isn't as good as TW on sgs3 and especially the Note 2... for the first time in years I'm staying on a manufacturer based rom
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In general I've switched to AOSP based roms as soon as possible, but I'm not sure about what I'll do with this phone.
For one, the multiwindow thing is something I wouldn't like to use, and I'm not sure how many of the s-pen features I'd lose (s-note seems to be the best note taking app for my uses, tried things like papyrus and lecture notes but they don't have as many features)
However Paranoid Android with its per-app DPI settings might just pry me away from those features.
AOSP all the way. TouchWiz is horrible.
AOSP = Never.
Period.
Thanks you for all you answers
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I just picked up my brand new Note 2 in white from ATT this week, running on Straight Talk. Rooted it before I took the plastic stickers off it, easiest and fastest root ever for me, and I am not a smart techie guy.
Anyways, I wanted to first try out a stock Touchwiz ROM, and found a very popular ROM here, installed it, and then installed Nova launcher with Jellybean theme, and I also installed a few ismc mods to give the phoen a pretty close to stock AOSP Nexus look, while still keeping the good Touchwiz S-Pen apps and widgets.
My last few phones have been One X running CM10, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus-S, Nexus-One. As you see, I am a fan of the pure vanilla look and feel. But it seems to me, that Jellybean has really made non Nexus phones really good, and with a launcher like Nova, and themed like Jellybean, it is darn close to the real nexus deal to me.
My question.
What are the performance numbers or at least your personal feel and opinion if you have used both on the Note 2 ? How does a good AOSP ROM, like CM10.1 run on the Note 2, compared to a stock Touchwiz ROM like cleanROM or JediX. Does the feel feel faster & smoother on AOSP over Touchwiz ? Battery life I am sure better on Tocuhwiz ?
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Running on JellyBeer, which uses CM10.1 as the base, it feels so much faster than stock. In fact, the battery life is also much much better.
I have to say I am pretty happy with cleanROM and my themes + Nova. Looks just like a Nexus now.
I do love AOSP, and sure it would be faster than Touchwiz ROM's, but I think I will hold off on those till next month, just reading there are few little bugs or minor issues still in these AOSP ROM's. I think another few weeks or month they be ironed out, and good to go.
I would switch to AOSP if its like crazy faster performance over Touchwiz ? If benchmark shows like night and day faster. Is it ?
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I have to say I am pretty happy with cleanROM and my themes + Nova. Looks just like a Nexus now.
I do love AOSP, and sure it would be faster than Touchwiz ROM's, but I think I will hold off on those till next month, just reading there are few little bugs or minor issues still in these AOSP ROM's. I think another few weeks or month they be ironed out, and good to go.
I would switch to AOSP if its like crazy faster performance over Touchwiz ? If benchmark shows like night and day faster. Is it ?
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I wouldn't call out timelines, but I guarantee you that in a matter of a little over a week, the developers made giant strides to how it is now, which is near perfect. Sure, there's minor bugs, but nothing people can't live with. They're very minor, and most people who complain about certain supposed quirks either complain just to complain (I see them as people who can never be pleased), or haven't explored their settings long enough to realize what they're complaining about, whether something seems missing to them or isn't adjusted to the way they want, is right in front of them.
You are tempting me to try out AOSP Sorry I didn't mean to put a timeline out there, I am sure the good ones are stable and good enough as daily's.
I really am tempted by all these AOSP ROM's. But then with AOSP I lose the S-Pen features. Are the AOSP that much faster and smoother than Touchwiz ROM's, or not really ? Right now with Nova launcher mods + themes my phone looks almost like a Nexus already, is it worth it going to full AOSP ?
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You are tempting me to try out AOSP Sorry I didn't mean to put a timeline out there, I am sure the good ones are stable and good enough as daily's.
I really am tempted by all these AOSP ROM's. But then with AOSP I lose the S-Pen features. Are the AOSP that much faster and smoother than Touchwiz ROM's, or not really ? Right now with Nova launcher mods + themes my phone looks almost like a Nexus already, is it worth it going to full AOSP ?
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As I recall, some of the ROMs have Nova Launcher included. I'm not sure how a Nexus looks, but I would say it's not too different.
And yes, as I said before, AOSP (and even AOKP) is faster than stock. It's because it gets rid of the bloatware. As for S-Pen features, it depends on you and what you like. Apparently airview and the like won't be available unless someone ports it over, but S Notes can be replicated with another app.
Why not do a nandroid backup and flash a CM10.1 ROM and take it for a spin. You can always go back to your backup. I prefer running CM10.1. simple powerful interface and great performance. Touchwiz is to bulky and if you want spen apps pypirus is a great option
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I get better battery life and performance out of TW ROMs. I'm running JediX9 with the provided kernel with amazing results. Plus it has the spen features.
I try CM10.1 once in a while and always go back to Jedi.
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My biggest gripe on CM right now is audio. Incall audio and speaker volume are poor opposed to TW. I talk on the phone quite a bit and I can tell the difference noticeably. It will get ironed out, and I will be on CM for good.
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I'm running the asylum aosp ROM and I'm having the best performance of any ROM I've tried to date, but on both in benchmark and subjective feel. I do find myself missing touch work tremendously though with some of its features. But I so love that my group messages workwwithout having to install a crappy third party messaging app.
As far as battery life, for me, the difference is negligible.
So had my note 2 for a couple of months now, and love it. I'm using stock (but rooted) 4.1.1.
I've got Apex launcher and most icons and stuff skinned to AOSP, though I miss some of the AOSP apps and the look and feel around the device of AOSP.
What would I miss if I left touchwiz? The rom needs to be *rock solid* stable as well - I'm only moving if it feels as smooth as stock!
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from my experience:
Stock advantages:
better Camera, Camcorder with slow motion video, everything regarding Spen that is going beyond simple gestures, Spen software even though you can get replacements for that (like Papyrus instead of SNote), Allshare Cast and working MHL and HDMI output through dock, multiwindow
AOSP advantages:
faster Speed, newer Android version including its features (for 4.2.2 you get lockscreen widgets for example), open community with many innovative design ideas like PIE Navigation or PA hybrid engine and the like, AOSP look (if that's your thing, it is for me), a lot less bloatware -> choose what you want to install
They are both as stable as anything you can get in terms of ROMs. In the end it's a question of what features you want to have, if you can live without the Samsung exclusive stuff or not.
+1 mrruin
I love aosp roms but im sticking to Tw rom just for the sake of camera features. .
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Which is the most stable AOSP rom? Carbon looks nice though there's no bug list or tracker that I can find?
Also just found my device has the SDS chip so not going to be doing anything while I'm still in warranty
Imo liquid smooth is the best.U can also try slim bean 3 !
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In general I find battery life a lot better on stock roms rather than AOSP.
Honestly, you'd miss a hell lot. It would just be another phone with massive screen with AOSP. I mean sure, you get the stock android experience and all that jazz, but on Note II, I would highly recommend sticking to TW based roms.
You'd miss: A hell lot of SPen features (like Airview), Multitasking, Motion, Camera app, S Note, other apps like Polaris Office if you use that. And from my experience, far more bug free than AOSP roms - again, that's purely my experience, might be way off here.
Just get a good AOSP themed TW based ROM and AOSP apps. I'm using Project AOSP now, AllianceROM is good too, from what I hear.
I like Touchwiz based roms on this phone a lot more, not back in the s1 and s2 days, cm was way better, but now Samsung finally got there act together.
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best aosp for me - carbon ... they got nightly version as well haha
best tw based - ARHD or Wanam or Monxdified (cant go wrong with any of them)
best mix of both world - project aosp
I can confirm alliance ROM. I'm running it on a Verizon note 2 and it is the business! Keep coming back to it even during my own confusion on if I should run aosp or touchwiz
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I love aosp's thats what im using on my nexus 4, lol like i have a choice
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Personally I think you should stick to stock. All the hardware works properly then, especially the camera which has always been a problem with the open source ROMS. You DO end up with more memory and less "blo
In fact jonatton has already said it all clearly.
I'm a firm believer in the statement "My phone with custom ASOP runs so much faster, now that half the features don't work properly!!"
ASOP was a good choice on a lot of older phones where the stock ui was too heavy for the hardware. The Note II is not one of those phones. It's such a mighty beast that nothing much can really slow it down. Has anyone actually been able to fill the ram up yet? Not me that's for sure.
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I have to agree that the Note 2 is a better phone running Touchwiz based ROMs. When I initially rooted my phone I went with the Note-orious Prime ROM with the Note2 Core kernel. I then decided to try another ROM so I ran my Note 2 on Pacman, Paranoid Android 3.
Sure the Paranoid ROM was amazing in its customization and had a buttery smoothness, but thats it.
I lost all pen features, s-voice which actually works brilliantly for me. I had random weird system issues. The camera sucked. Lost all voice command capabilities.
The other day I had enough, flipped back to Note-orious Prime and now wont look back.
The way I look at it is that it isnt bloatware if you actually use it.
EDIT: to add I also had atrocious battery life with the paranoid rom compared to the touchwiz.
Interesting thread.
I also might start off with a TW based ROM.
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+1 .....yup ....you are right ....hardware support is must ....im ARHD v17 ..best rom ever...few days ago posted the same post but some, so called critc's who think they are Developers ....did not like it at all :banghead:
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Been messing around with note 2 roms, and I too must say that stock tw feels best for me. I thought I don't care much for Sammy stock bloatware, but as I installed AOSP roms I started to miss my s note, air view, s Pen gestures etc. Now I tend to stick with tw based. Love phoenix, bobcat, arhd, wanamlite and assassin.
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to add on to what's already been said I've actually been bouncing back & fourth from AOSP to TW & I've ran into a little issue that has me staying with TW for permanent although I love the DPI options you get on AOSP the most important feature for me was that my Beats headphones would barely work on Aosp I'd always get complaints from people saying they could barely hear me..never happens on TW though..
*Yawn* Another best ROM thread
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Hey guys specially those who are using their phones on the ATT network.
What is a good 4.4.4 ROM that I can use with minimal issue?
Looking for a ASOP feel but looks of the TW. (but can be customized and themed)
Any suggestion is appreciated.
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Noone?
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Looking for a ASOP feel but looks of the TW
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I know what you are saying, but it is still conflicting. You really can't have them both. True AOSP will not support the framework for the sPen. Leaving out the TouchWiz framework (not just the launcher) cheapens your Note3 down to a boring Nexus device. A Note3 without the functionality of the sPen might as well be a paperweight or a boring non-Samsung device.
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I know what you are saying, but it is still conflicting. You really can't have them both. True AOSP will not support the framework for the sPen. Leaving out the TouchWiz framework (not just the launcher) cheapens your Note3 down to a boring Nexus device. A Note3 without the functionality of the sPen might as well be a paperweight or a boring non-Samsung device.
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I have to agree. Of course many will have their own opinions and there are AOSP and TouchWiz ROMs for whatever you prefer, but to me AOSP is half and half. Great features, but lacking some other things obviously as a AOSP ROM is a few hundred mbs while a TouchWiz ROM is a gig or two. I run Vision X on my Tmo Note 3 and I'm on ATT network. No problems, fast ROM, and awesome battery life and I still have all the features of the Note.
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I have to agree. Of course many will have their own opinions and there are AOSP and TouchWiz ROMs for whatever you prefer, but to me AOSP is half and half. Great features, but lacking some other things obviously as a AOSP ROM is a few hundred mbs while a TouchWiz ROM is a gig or two. I run Vision X on my Tmo Note 3 and I'm on ATT network. No problems, fast ROM, and awesome battery life and I still have all the features of the Note.
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Thanks will give that one a try haha.
using the old wicked and its starting to get boring
Also are you using the Tmo version or the international version?
So long story short, I hate touchwiz and it's lag. I have a S5 and considering a Note 3 that has a non touchwiz custom rom.
I have AT&T so I'd have to unlock it and then unlock the bootloader correct? And what's the best and most popular custom rom that has no "touchwiz" lag? My old HTC one m7 didn't even have that lag my S5 has
I am satisfied with my battery for my S5, does the Note 3 have a great battery life?
re: AOSP/CM11 roms
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So long story short, I hate touchwiz and it's lag. I have a S5 and considering a Note 3 that has a non touchwiz custom rom.
I have AT&T so I'd have to unlock it and then unlock the bootloader correct? And what's the best and most popular custom rom that has no "touchwiz" lag? My old HTC one m7 didn't even have that lag my S5 has
I am satisfied with my battery for my S5, does the Note 3 have a great battery life?
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Your AT&T Note 3 must be UNLOCKED to work with the T-Moble network.
It also must be rooted and have a custom recovery flashed like cwm or twrp.
Yes, the Note 3 is compatible with AOSP and CM11 roms.
There are only 2 or 3 AOSP and or CM11 roms to choose from.
The Touchwiz custom roms are NOT laggy at all, especially since
we are talking about the king of phones, the Galaxy Note 3. LOL
Be sure to follow all the flashing instructions and be sure to
make a nandroid backup before flashing any roms.
Good luck!
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So long story short, I hate touchwiz and it's lag. I have a S5 and considering a Note 3 that has a non touchwiz custom rom.
I have AT&T so I'd have to unlock it and then unlock the bootloader correct? And what's the best and most popular custom rom that has no "touchwiz" lag? My old HTC one m7 didn't even have that lag my S5 has
I am satisfied with my battery for my S5, does the Note 3 have a great battery life?
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Yes, battery life is pretty good. I unplug around 7am and by 5 I usually still have about 50% left, give or take 5-10% depending on my usage.
The rom thing is going to be very subjective and you're just going to have to try a few roms and decide for yourself which one you like best. For TW, I personally liked Tweaked and Darthstalker. Most custom TW roms are going to be MUCH faster than stock, and I never noticed any lag(I always disable animations though, just FYI). For AOSP, I really liked Gummy, Pac-rom, and I'm currently enjoying the CM nightlies. All are pretty comparable in battery life and speed, but be aware that you will lose certain features if you decide to go with AOSP. NFC doesn't work, the temp & humidity sensors don't work, and you lose certain apps like WatchOn and S-health.
As for the bootloader question, you might find more answers on that here. I don't know much about the AT&T model since mine is T-mobile, sorry.
Didn't want to start a new thread since my question is somewhat related,
what about some of the aosp roms on the international forum? can they be used, if so anything to look out for?
Side note, any comparisons between aosp variants, so many..and I know many have been around quite a while.
I use darthstalker on my 3 and yes, it's fast as hell because it's a modified version of TouchWiz. Great battery life, the Tethering, options, it's got it all. There is also effortless and vision X, and as mentioned, tweaked all are great rooms with different outcomes so happy flashing, which ever you choose you won't be disappointed. And the note 3 is the king of all phones at the moment, phablets, phablets. ..custom roms are what the phone was supposed to be like in the first place...