Today I try AnTuTu benchmark and says My Device.There's option to comare my device vs galaxy,oneplus and etc. there's aslo HTC One M8 and when i press the button it's says My Device vs HTC One M8.And my score on all things is smaller than the HTC One M8.Is this bug or something ??? AnTuTu benchmark dont recognize my device or ?
Not sure (not a benchmark user). But if the reported score for the M8 is based on other users of the app, it will include folks who overclock and use other mods that effect the score.
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Hi,
Not sure if this is mean't to go in here, so apologies firstly if it isn't.
My friend has a Samsung Galaxy S Android phone and from Stock 2.1 he gets a score of about 800 from Quadrant. He looked on the forums and noticed a post for a fix to do with application lagging here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=760571
This is an APK which appears to install a EXT2 partition on the internal SD card/memory. This increased the Quadrant score to over 2100, not so far from 3 times the score without the fix. The ROM itself has not changed, he still has stock installed, but his phone was rooted to do this.
My Desire now looks feeble in comparison to the Galaxy, with a score of around 1100 in Quadrant. I am running the LeeDroid ROM and have the latest radio installed.
I don't know enough about the make up of the two phones or enough experience of Linux to know if this is possible on the Desire. If someone can get a similar performance increase in the Desire, that would be amazing.... Any ideas?
Thanks
Jason
are you using Lee's 1.9a ROM? if so, it addded a new default governeur(sp?) for setCPU that's interactive.. when you first run quadrant, it'll always show a low score cause the CPU runs slow, then ramps up as it's needed.. Run the test a few times back to back, and see the score rise. I'm getting into the mid to high 1300's steady after running it a couple times to get the CPU up there.
Have you read the FAQ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7620940&postcount=2
There he explains what this fix is and why it works and why it probably only really works on the Galaxy
PS: your Quadrant score is pretty low, I get about 1500-1600 without overclocking. However the Galaxy S haas a faster hardware.
As we all know quadrant is no reliable measure for speed. At least I knew this for a while now and it was repeated and quoted many times.
This article tells anybody with a functioning brain (that is used of course) that quadrant means pretty much nothing.
I can't help to run it from time to time anyway
So I sat on the to... in my room in front of my computer with my phone. I9000 with supersonic ROM and the remount script from adrenaline shot 7. I sat there and said to myself "how hight can you score in quadrant LOL"
I started quadrant up and ran the benchmark: 2309
Then I opened the task manager-> Exit all & Clear memory
Then via long press homebutton back to quadrant to run the benchmark again score: 2453
But since I am a programmer and can imagine all kinds of optimizations and caching I pressed the back button and just ran it again just after it finished
Score: 2675
How the hell could anyone call that a benchmark?^^
just to be sure could anyone confirm that behavior? And does anyone know of a mor reliable alternative? I'd like to collect that knowledge in this thread.
TL;DR: quadrant sucks, you know anything better or want to flame away: do it here
Those are not the actual numbers from my first experiment, I repeated the scenario just now and took the numbers from those runs.
Additional runs scored 2775, 2907 and 2820, that's just silly
I think this behaviour is well known and has to do with JIT optimizations or something like that
allotrios said:
I think this behaviour is well known and has to do with JIT optimizations or something like that
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The reason is irrelevant. The fact it doesn't provide a reliable benchmark is.
no benchmark is precise if you don't use it as intended. Quadrant produces a reliable comparative benchmark when used as designed: run it five times, remove the lowest and highest scores and average the remaining 3 -- that is your benchmark. You may not like it, but that is how it is designed to be used.
Now if you want to be pedantic, you could reasonably test again, by running quadrant 5 times, removing the outliers and average your 3 remaining scores. Repeat 10 times and then tell me how your average scores do or do not vary: they will in fact be within a narrow range, your actual benchmark.
Alternatively, tell us which benchmark produces the same score each run, as that appears to be the sum total of your objection to quadrant.
There are other benchmarks, such as Caffiene Mark, AnTuTu and NenaMark, but they are all apps just as Quadrant is and all require several runs and averaging to produce a comparable benchmark.
Moreover, the primary use of any benchmark is to compare firmware (kernel and rom) builds on the same phone to see relative performance gain and drop.
A benchmark is supposed to give way of comparing the capabilities of a given device. This means that a device with a high average score implies a better device than a lower score.
But the Quadrant score does nothing of this sort! In a competition with a friend I achieved an average Quadrant score of about 4300, with a peak of 4462. According to Quadrant my device is a lot better than the OP! Which is just not true.
Quadrant is unreliable as a benchmark, no matter how it is "designed to be used".
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
whaave said:
But the Quadrant score does nothing of this sort! In a competition with a friend I achieved an average Quadrant score of about 4300, with a peak of 4462. According to Quadrant my device is a lot better than the OP! Which is just not true.
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You're doing it wrong.
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Moreover, the primary use of any benchmark is to compare firmware (kernel and rom) builds on the same phone to see relative performance gain and drop.
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Quadrant scores are useless. I've used custom roms with scores of 2500+ but they aren't as smooth as stock roms, which only have scores of 1600-1800.
Antutu is indeed quite reliable imho. My results never fluctuate more than +-5% on the same config. That's an acceptable range, considering I don't set cpu governor to performance before running my tests.
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You're doing it wrong.
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w00t?
Quadrant does not reflect performance, and therefore can not be used as a comparison parameter.
It can't be much worse than I thought.
My phone with 2.1 and 'lag fix' scored 2200 and lagged so bad I wanted to throw it against a wall multiple times a day.
With stock 2.3 quadrant can be ~1000 but the phone runs much smoother.
Other than the obvious file systems I/O 'cheats' that resulted in the above, there is also the frame rate cap that makes the GPU tests useless as well.
if your trying to measure height with a scale , u wont get your answer .
The only benchmark tool that ever reflected how the phone felt in my hands , in real life usage is linpack .
changing OC / kernel is mainly the only thing that will affect linpack if your trying to use it to compare roms ill efer you to my first statement .
In order to have a good feel of a rom / set up on the phone , use some apps that will use lots of ressources , for example TW4 launcher , go in there scroll a lot open gallery (if you have many pics) scroll thru them and repeat ... Any benchmark tools will basically tell you the 'ability of your device ' ( comparing 2 different models like an inspire and an sgs2 for example will be accurate )
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Antutu is indeed quite reliable imho. My results never fluctuate more than +-5% on the same config. That's an acceptable range, considering I don't set cpu governor to performance before running my tests.
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I recently tried Passmark Mobile. Still a beta version, but I like it. Test results reflect real performance improvement and degradation pretty closely, particularly for what concerns I/O and memory speed.
i have a galaxy s3.. when i run benchmark on antutu the score was 6503
and when i compare my phone to other on the ranking list and alot of people in the same phone got really high score
at 1st i thought they do overclock or use different ROMS, but when i do that it still the same
I WONDER HOW THEY DO THAT ??
is there any guide show me how to do it ??
Hey guys, I have an international HTC One X running Cyanogenmod 10's 20.01.2012 nightly build (Jellybean 4.1.2) without any overclocking. I just did a benchmark with AnTuTu v3 and got an overall score of 14770. Looking at AnTuTu's website, an average One X seems to be scoring only 10288 so I guess my phone is doing well, although for some reason, on the actual AnTuTu app's ranking page, the One X is scoring an overall of 14022 so it's actually much closer.
But when looking at the scores in detail, it looks like my phone's 3D Graphics is only scoring 3087 compared to an average score of 3907 on other people's results and my Database IO (don't know what that is) is only 125 compared to 550 on other people's One X. Does anyone know why my phone might be under-performing in these areas? Thanks a lot!
PS. According to xda-developers' description of the One X, it's supposed to have an ARM Cortex A9 processor whereas in AnTuTu, my CPU model is listed as a Quad-Core ARMv7 Processor (VFPv3, NEON). Are they the same thing?
I have checked various sources about HTC One M8 benchmark, *and ALL anti-cheating benchmark like BaseMark X, Antutu X or Geekbench 3 M8 showed unreasonable low scores compared to Galaxy S5 (the difference of 801ab and 801ac is not that big) *
I suspect that HTC is doing something with the CPU to improve the battery life. That's why they are cheating with normal benchmarks (toggle can be turned off with normal apps, not benchmark applications - Anandtech). The difference of the real world performance maybe negligible but I think we want to be cheated.
Anybody can help me by renaming benchmark apps like quadrant or Linpack and comparing to S5 result? Thanks.
well htc one m8 has and performance mode and you can disable it
so you cant say htc is cheating
If you call software/hardware optimization a cheating in order to improve battery life, i hope they cheat ever more!
I recognized what OP said before from a review on ePrice (Taiwanese). HTC is definitely doing something subtle.
pedyvirus said:
well htc one m8 has and performance mode and you can disable it
so you cant say htc is cheating
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I thought that Anandtech said the toggle allows your normal apps can run with the CPU level in benchmark, not to turn the "benchmark optimization" off.
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If you call software/hardware optimization a cheating in order to improve battery life, i hope they cheat ever more!
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I totally agree about battery optimization. But the way HTC doing is they want to deceive customer that they are the best of both world: benchmark and battery. I don't care about benchmark, just the real performance but many people care. Just think about the benchmark scores, if they didn't cheat and all reviews show that the scores are only 3/4 compare to S5, what would you think? Antutu X showed only 27k, which is equivalent exactly 3/4 of GS5 (36k).
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If you call software/hardware optimization a cheating in order to improve battery life, i hope they cheat ever more!
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It's cheating intended. Lower the CPU with the performance similar to to 1.9 2.0 GHz but still advertise as 2.5 GHz CPU!
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It's cheating intended. Lower the CPU with the performance similar to to 1.9 2.0 GHz but still advertise as 2.5 GHz CPU!
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It sounds like an automatic CPU battery saving mode, not "optimization", lol
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It's cheating intended. Lower the CPU with the performance similar to to 1.9 2.0 GHz but still advertise as 2.5 GHz CPU!
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2.3* if you want to be a stat who're buy a GS5 my M8 does everything I ask of it.
Sent from my Renovated Elemental M8
BrockFerens said:
2.3* if you want to be a stat who're buy a GS5 my M8 does everything I ask of it.
Sent from my Renovated Elemental M8
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Oh 2.34 GHz. Actually I agree with you. Last year Snapdragon 600 on my M7 is totally enough. We only need better GPU, no need for CPU. But I'm still waiting for any manufacturer dares to lower down the CPU "officially" to increase the battery life (not in a subtle way like this), similar to HTC itself shrinked down the number of MPs for a bigger pixel size.
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