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Unlocked Updates but AT&T?

I'm looking for an unlocked Note II and have found one for a reasonable price but it's an AT&T version although it is indeed unlocked. Will I get updates at the same time as the international version or would I have to wait for an AT&T update?
Also, is it possible to flash/sideload the 4.2 camera apk without rooting?

Zecharixs said:
I'm looking for an unlocked Note II and have found one for a reasonable price but it's an AT&T version although it is indeed unlocked. Will I get updates at the same time as the international version or would I have to wait for an AT&T update?
Also, is it possible to flash/sideload the 4.2 camera apk without rooting?
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You'll get the updates when the ATT version gets the update. The upgrade really goes by Model number and then region. Your model number is still SGH-I317.
Being unlocked just enable you to use a non-att sim card

Correct if it's just unlocked, you should have no problem getting updates.
If it's unlocked and a good deal, I assume you getting it from a private seller. Just be careful not to buy a stolen phone, they will block it by IMEI.

Just get one that is locked and unlock it yourself. Don't pay extra for one that's unlocked. There is a thread here on xda that shows you how to unlock the GN2 jus by entering a few codes.
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Yes, you can flash 4.2 camera with no problems. I did.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using xda premium

If I did get the SGH ATT model, could I flash the N7100 stock image to it without rooting? If so, how would I do it?
And someone said the 4.2 camera can be flashed without root. How is this done?

You need to do some searching and reading, all the information you need can be found here on XDA.
But before you get in to trouble flashing I will tell you that you should not flash a ROM that is not made for you model (SGH_i317). If you have an AT&T phone only flash ROMs from the AT&T development section.
Here is a useful link to get you started:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987541

No root = no custom recovery?

After several pages of reading i need to ask this:
I have a n910v that is a CDMA phone and i need to use it in a GSM network. For this i found that there is a way to reach that trough a "script". In order to run that i need to set the "signature verificatio" off. (I'm ok with that, i trust the script developer), but for doing that i need a custom recovery (right?) and to have a custom recovery instaled i need to rooot the phone (as far as i understand), so: since there is no root for this sm-n910v there is also no custom recovery?
Thanks!

just64 said:
After several pages of reading i need to ask this:
I have a n910v that is a CDMA phone and i need to use it in a GSM network. For this i found that there is a way to reach that trough a "script". In order to run that i need to set the "signature verificatio" off. (I'm ok with that, i trust the script developer), but for doing that i need a custom recovery (right?) and to have a custom recovery instaled i need to rooot the phone (as far as i understand), so: since there is no root for this sm-n910v there is also no custom recovery?
Thanks!
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For a custom recovery you need a unlocked bootloader witch the retail Note 4 dose not have. Root can be achieved without a bootloader unlock but a unlock allows the custom recovery without having root thus making it much easier to root.

Misterxtc said:
For a custom recovery you need a unlocked bootloader witch the retail Note 4 dose not have. Root can be achieved without a bootloader unlock but a unlock allows the custom recovery without having root thus making it much easier to root.
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Hmmm, so you are saying me that i need a bootloader unclock?

Not sure why you need to do anything of the sort? I am using 2 Verizon note 4's here in Ireland on GSM my wife and I. I did find when I received them they would not work with a GSM sim or connect to a GSM Network here in Ireland. So I went on ebay and bought a Verizon sim card, dummy/dead/unactivated what ever for 5 dollars poped it in to both phones, they said activating phone then activation failed. But guess what GSM sim card worked after that....its a strange one.
By the way it needs to be a 4G Verizon sim card. I tried another Verizon Sim and it didn't work.
Hope this helps

gersrt said:
Not sure why you need to do anything of the sort? I am using 2 Verizon note 4's here in Ireland on GSM my wife and I. I did find when I received them they would not work with a GSM sim or connect to a GSM Network here in Ireland. So I went on ebay and bought a Verizon sim card, dummy/dead/unactivated what ever for 5 dollars poped it in to both phones, they said activating phone then activation failed. But guess what GSM sim card worked after that....its a strange one.
By the way it needs to be a 4G Verizon sim card. I tried another Verizon Sim and it didn't work.
Hope this helps
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Well, i'm in Argentina, to have a Verizon SIM card here is going to take about 4/5 weeks, but is good to know, thanks.
Btw, ur Note 4 was also a CDMA phone?

Yes it is a cdma. Took about 2 weeks for me to get Sim. Make sure it's a 4G one you buy. It's well worth the wait. Best of luck.

just64 said:
Hmmm, so you are saying me that i need a bootloader unclock?
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For a custom recovery yes,for a carrier unlock no. These are two entirely different unlocks. As gersrt said you need a different sim card. The phone should already be carrier unlocked.

Unlocked VS US Cellular

My G4 was sold to me as "unlocked". There was no mention of US Cellular and the battery door nor boot screen shows any US Cellular logo. Model number is LGUS991 and software version is us99111a. To my understanding this is not the US Cellular model, but rather an unlocked model different from the US Cellular one. Upon emailing LG about why I can't receive an ota update for MM they told me its because I am not using US Cellular service which got me thinking that maybe this is the US Cellular phone. A Google search just yieleded me a result about root that said "LG G4 carrier models can now be unlocked like the unlocked model"......I could've sworn with all my reading that the damned unlocked model was the one that had trouble being rooted yet searching google it appears to be the other way around as if the unlocked model already had easy root for a while and yet looking around the sub forums here at XDA I see no root method for my model or any roms.
Again I'm pretty sure this is the straight unlocked model I have and NOT the US Cellular one........so WHAT can I do with it? And why would the ota for MM not be appearing? (i don't want it anyway with all the issue people have had but am just wondering). Sorry to make these posts but the info is all over the place. Can't seem to find the correct answers.
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carnivalrejectq said:
My G4 was sold to me as "unlocked". There was no mention of US Cellular and the battery door nor boot screen shows any US Cellular logo. Model number is LGUS991 and software version is us99111a. To my understanding this is not the US Cellular model, but rather an unlocked model different from the US Cellular one. Upon emailing LG about why I can't receive an ota update for MM they told me its because I am not using US Cellular service which got me thinking that maybe this is the US Cellular phone. A Google search just yieleded me a result about root that said "LG G4 carrier models can now be unlocked like the unlocked model"......I could've sworn with all my reading that the damned unlocked model was the one that had trouble being rooted yet searching google it appears to be the other way around as if the unlocked model already had easy root for a while and yet looking around the sub forums here at XDA I see no root method for my model or any roms.
Again I'm pretty sure this is the straight unlocked model I have and NOT the US Cellular one........so WHAT can I do with it? And why would the ota for MM not be appearing? (i don't want it anyway with all the issue people have had but am just wondering). Sorry to make these posts but the info is all over the place. Can't seem to find the correct answers.
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Model number is LGUS991 and software version is us99111a.)
isnt that us cellular? as unlocked it means carrier unlock not bootloader unlock..
and yes theres is a way to use root . i have unlockable phone TMOBILE but i dont want to void my warranty due to thte bootlooping issue... and i have root and xposed installed. to roo its called low sffort root . search.

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Model number is LGUS991 and software version is us99111a.)
isnt that us cellular? as unlocked it means carrier unlock not bootloader unlock..
and yes theres is a way to use root . i have unlockable phone TMOBILE but i dont want to void my warranty due to thte bootlooping issue... and i have root and xposed installed. to roo its called low sffort root . search.
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I dont know that that is US Cellular. The answer seems unclear. Like i said my battery door contains no logo nor do i have any bloat from them or a boot screen from them. Also, i understand the difference between an unlocked phone and an unlocked bootkoader lol.
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carnivalrejectq said:
I dont know that that is US Cellular. The answer seems unclear. Like i said my battery door contains no logo nor do i have any bloat from them or a boot screen from them. Also, i understand the difference between an unlocked phone and an unlocked bootkoader lol.
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did you look at amazon. as i read that too ... and i tought it would be a european model.. but i read reviews then i saw it wasnt bootloader unlocked.. so i avoid it.

raptorddd said:
did you look at amazon. as i read that too ... and i tought it would be a european model.. but i read reviews then i saw it wasnt bootloader unlocked.. so i avoid it.
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No I didn't. I should have avoided this phone I guess. Camera is great and it's fast but idk battery life leaves a lot to be desired and I feel out of place being stuck on marshmallow and unable to root. I got the bastard child forgotten G4 I guess.
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carnivalrejectq said:
No I didn't. I should have avoided this phone I guess. Camera is great and it's fast but idk battery life leaves a lot to be desired and I feel out of place being stuck on marshmallow and unable to root. I got the bastard child forgotten G4 I guess.
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can you go back to LP then root with locked bootloader and use xposed...

How to root lg g4 us991
carnivalrejectq said:
My G4 was sold to me as "unlocked". There was no mention of US Cellular and the battery door nor boot screen shows any US Cellular logo. Model number is LGUS991 and software version is us99111a. To my understanding this is not the US Cellular model, but rather an unlocked model different from the US Cellular one. Upon emailing LG about why I can't receive an ota update for MM they told me its because I am not using US Cellular service which got me thinking that maybe this is the US Cellular phone. A Google search just yieleded me a result about root that said "LG G4 carrier models can now be unlocked like the unlocked model"......I could've sworn with all my reading that the damned unlocked model was the one that had trouble being rooted yet searching google it appears to be the other way around as if the unlocked model already had easy root for a while and yet looking around the sub forums here at XDA I see no root method for my model or any roms.
Again I'm pretty sure this is the straight unlocked model I have and NOT the US Cellular one........so WHAT can I do with it? And why would the ota for MM not be appearing? (i don't want it anyway with all the issue people have had but am just wondering). Sorry to make these posts but the info is all over the place. Can't seem to find the correct answers.
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Hello carnivalrejectq, were you able to root your phone even I have this same problem with my LG G4 US99121a.
How can I root my phone ?

Negative, you have a Rent a Center G4.
10A = Unbranded G4
10C = US Cellular
11A = Rent A Center
LG is full of **** when they say the updates only come with a SIM card for this phone. The only way to get an update is via WiFi if there is even an update to be had. My unbranded US991LD updated to 21A without a SIM card connected to WiFi even while the morons at LG were telling me otherwise. You can't get an update from USC if it's not even a USC phone!

Noksucow1 said:
Negative, you have a Rent a Center G4.
10A = Unbranded G4
10C = US Cellular
11A = Rent A Center
LG is full of **** when they say the updates only come with a SIM card for this phone. The only way to get an update is via WiFi if there is even an update to be had. My unbranded US991LD updated to 21A without a SIM card connected to WiFi even while the morons at LG were telling me otherwise. You can't get an update from USC if it's not even a USC phone!
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I have 21a. Can I root it ?

Naman Katyal said:
I have 21a. Can I root it ?
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MM can't be rooted without an unlocked bootloader, so no. There are some possibilities, but I got stuck with the modem not working. I am able to downgrade our phone to 5.1 and root. The process to downgrade and root basically converts our phone to an LS991...but it breaks the modem. There is no TOT file with all required files to completely restore our phone...I'm not willing to send my phone back to LG again.

Verizon Pixel XL on T-Mobile

So I just bought a Verizon Pixel XL off ebay with the intention of using it on T-Mobile because I was under the impression that taking it to T-Mobile was no issue and would be no different than using a google store one on T-Mobile. Although I am reading some concerning threads about the bootloader issue. If this phone happens to have 7.11 will I be unable to flash the T-Mobile factory image onto it? Or is there really no benefit in doing this anyway? Do I and will I be able to flash at least the T-Mobile radio over to it?
Then if it is before 7.11 and I unlock the bootloader right away can I keep it unlocked even if I play around with images and stuff such as trying out the O beta? or do I have to avoid Factory images once its unlocked and only use custom roms?
Thanks in advanced!

tuxdreamerx said:
So I just bought a Verizon Pixel XL off ebay with the intention of using it on T-Mobile because I was under the impression that taking it to T-Mobile was no issue and would be no different than using a google store one on T-Mobile. Although I am reading some concerning threads about the bootloader issue. If this phone happens to have 7.11 will I be unable to flash the T-Mobile factory image onto it? Or is there really no benefit in doing this anyway? Do I and will I be able to flash at least the T-Mobile radio over to it?
Then if it is before 7.11 and I unlock the bootloader right away can I keep it unlocked even if I play around with images and stuff such as trying out the O beta? or do I have to avoid Factory images once its unlocked and only use custom roms?
Thanks in advanced!
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Only thing that matters is if the origin of the phone is Verizon or Google.
If the origin is Google you can install the Google factory image and use it on anywhere, unlock the bootloader, root and have a grand old time.
If the origin is Verizon you are relegated to the Verizon image regardless of where you use the phone, no flashing for you.
Compare the build code of your phone to the build codes on google factory image website and you will know what you have.
good luck

parakleet said:
Only thing that matters is if the origin of the phone is Verizon or Google.
If the origin is Google you can install the Google factory image and use it on anywhere, unlock the bootloader, root and have a grand old time.
If the origin is Verizon you are relegated to the Verizon image regardless of where you use the phone, no flashing for you.
Compare the build code of your phone to the build codes on google factory image website and you will know what you have.
good luck
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Well this was a display model I guess, no specifics on what kind of store but its listed as being a Verizon model. So I may be SOL. As far as working on T-Mobile if that is the case are there any downsides to using the Verizon model aside from flashing?

tuxdreamerx said:
Well this was a display model I guess, no specifics on what kind of store but its listed as being a Verizon model. So I may be SOL. As far as working on T-Mobile if that is the case are there any downsides to using the Verizon model aside from flashing?
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Verizon model is fine for what the phone is.

You shouldn't have any issues using it on T-Mobile USA . Verizon phones are sim unlocked . The only thing with the Verizon version is that if it had the update where they don't let the bootloader unlock then you can't unlock it and root. Besides that you can use it on TMobile as a regular Google phone.
Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

parakleet said:
Only thing that matters is if the origin of the phone is Verizon or Google.
If the origin is Google you can install the Google factory image and use it on anywhere, unlock the bootloader, root and have a grand old time.
If the origin is Verizon you are relegated to the Verizon image regardless of where you use the phone, no flashing for you.
Compare the build code of your phone to the build codes on google factory image website and you will know what you have.
good luck
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This is partially false, I'm using a Verizon pixel XL on TMO and when I dropped out of beta, Google rolled out the TMO branch to my phone.
If you can depixl8 it and unlock the bootloader, you can flash custom Roms or the factory images to your heart's desire with no issues. Just never relock the bootloader, since it won't be able to be unlocked again(if it truly is a Verizon pixel XL)

parakleet said:
Only thing that matters is if the origin of the phone is Verizon or Google.
If the origin is Google you can install the Google factory image and use it on anywhere, unlock the bootloader, root and have a grand old time.
If the origin is Verizon you are relegated to the Verizon image regardless of where you use the phone, no flashing for you.
Compare the build code of your phone to the build codes on google factory image website and you will know what you have.
good luck
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You can sideload updates to a locked device so OP could sideload a current ota from tmobile. It can in fact beneficial to run the tmobile software on tmo because of optimizations for network connectivity

If you haven't updated it yet and its version is older than last November, you should be able to unlock the bootloader. Once it's been updated to a newer version, it can't be unlocked.

JimSmith94 said:
If you haven't updated it yet and its version is older than last November, you should be able to unlock the bootloader. Once it's been updated to a newer version, it can't be unlocked.
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I have a BL unlocked, Verizon rooted Pixel XL. Can I put an ATT sim card in it and use it on the ATT network? Would I need to flash a different rom?

STraver said:
I have a BL unlocked, Verizon rooted Pixel XL. Can I put an ATT sim card in it and use it on the ATT network? Would I need to flash a different rom?
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Should be able to just pop in the ATT sim

JimSmith94 said:
If you haven't updated it yet and its version is older than last November, you should be able to unlock the bootloader. Once it's been updated to a newer version, it can't be unlocked.
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I guess that'll be the big question. If the phone was only a display model since it was released. I wonder if the display models get the updates pushed automatically... I will find out tomorrow.

Well the phone came with 7.1.2 so no fun for me. Thanks for the info from everyone.

Very interesting, I stuck a T-mobile SIM in it and I can now switch on OEM unlocking. It was greyed out before I put the SIM in.

tuxdreamerx said:
Very interesting, I stuck a T-mobile SIM in it and I can now switch on OEM unlocking. It was greyed out before I put the SIM in.
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I'm curious, have you tried unlocking the BL now that you can toggle OEM unlocking?

Grubling said:
I'm curious, have you tried unlocking the BL now that you can toggle OEM unlocking?
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I have not I will this evening or tomorrow though. I was just under the impression that all Verizon Editions had that switch disabled no matter what SIM card went it. As I stated before this was a display model, I got it for next to nothing due to very minor screen burn from the demo mode, I can barely see it so i'm good with what I paid. So I wonder if display models weren't Verizon models? Or maybe this was a third party Verizon store and not corporate. Either way is there anyway to tell which one it is? The SKU on the back is G-2PW2100-021-B and it has build number N2G47E on it, which is not the verizon build I don't think.

tuxdreamerx said:
I have not I will this evening or tomorrow though. I was just under the impression that all Verizon Editions had that switch disabled no matter what SIM card went it. As I stated before this was a display model, I got it for next to nothing due to very minor screen burn from the demo mode, I can barely see it so i'm good with what I paid. So I wonder if display models weren't Verizon models? Or maybe this was a third party Verizon store and not corporate. Either way is there anyway to tell which one it is? The SKU on the back is G-2PW2100-021-B and it has build number N2G47E on it, which is not the verizon build I don't think.
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Google points to that being a Verizon SKU. But with the build number being non-Verizon, you might be able to unlock it.
There may be some relevant information here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/help/bootloader-unlock-verizon-pixels-t3616101

tuxdreamerx said:
Very interesting, I stuck a T-mobile SIM in it and I can now switch on OEM unlocking. It was greyed out before I put the SIM in.
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Count your blessings, most of us with Verizon models are still locked on other carriers.

parakleet said:
Only thing that matters is if the origin of the phone is Verizon or Google.
If the origin is Google you can install the Google factory image and use it on anywhere, unlock the bootloader, root and have a grand old time.
If the origin is Verizon you are relegated to the Verizon image regardless of where you use the phone, no flashing for you.
Compare the build code of your phone to the build codes on google factory image website and you will know what you have.
good luck
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Hi, I was about to buy Google Pixel XL off the eBay how can I tell if its Verizon phone or Google phone? I asked two sellers, they didn't know if it was Verizon on Google phone, they are just selling as Unlocked GSM , I never bought Google phone so I'm very new to it, per my understanding Verizon phones wont able to have unlock bootloaders? and Google phones will do? also Google phones can work with Verizon and GSM phones without any issues or they are only good with GSM?
you were saying something about build id to check
https://developers.google.com/android/images
I went to this webpage but I dont see any differences in model # for both ver?

zfk110 said:
Hi, I was about to buy Google Pixel XL off the eBay how can I tell if its Verizon phone or Google phone? I asked two sellers, they didn't know if it was Verizon on Google phone, they are just selling as Unlocked GSM , I never bought Google phone so I'm very new to it, per my understanding Verizon phones wont able to have unlock bootloaders? and Google phones will do? also Google phones can work with Verizon and GSM phones without any issues or they are only good with GSM?
you were saying something about build id to check
https://developers.google.com/android/images
I went to this webpage but I dont see any differences in model # for both ver?
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You can unlock the bootloader on Verizon.

tuxdreamerx said:
So I just bought a Verizon Pixel XL off ebay with the intention of using it on T-Mobile because I was under the impression that taking it to T-Mobile was no issue and would be no different than using a google store one on T-Mobile. Although I am reading some concerning threads about the bootloader issue. If this phone happens to have 7.11 will I be unable to flash the T-Mobile factory image onto it? Or is there really no benefit in doing this anyway? Do I and will I be able to flash at least the T-Mobile radio over to it?
Then if it is before 7.11 and I unlock the bootloader right away can I keep it unlocked even if I play around with images and stuff such as trying out the O beta? or do I have to avoid Factory images once its unlocked and only use custom roms?
Thanks in advanced!
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I literally just did this 2 months ago. Got a pixel xl and it was a verizon phone but I have Tmobile. The phone can be unlocked, it can be rooted, it can be rommed, yes it can! Mine came with 711 or 712 cant remember but whatever doesnt matter. Just follow the guide in the other thread by @Homeboy76, it's a GREAT read and tutorial. It will put you from stock nougat to stock pie, but afterwards you can go to nougat, oreo, or pie. I know because after I did it, i went to an custom rom, then to a custom oreo rom, back to stock pie, back to custom pie lol. I would put a link up to the thread but idk how to do hyperlinks lmao, i skipped that day of school.

can you buy a s20 from verizon and root it?

i have tried reading multiple threads but i seem to be getting conflicting answers.
can you buy an s20 variant from verizon at all and be able to root it and unlock the bootloader etc so that you can end up using magisk and also xposed?
or do you need to buy a special version of the s20 and port it to verizon somehow?
if there is a special variant of the s20 that i can get and use on verizon, can anyone give me the exact model number and then an idea of where/how to get it?
unfortunately i am stuck with verizon as i'm on a plan with family members where i am the head of the account so getting rid of verizon really isnt a possibility for me.
i just want to get a really good 5g phone because there is 5g where i live. but i want to root it and have all of the tools i have with my current phone which is an LG v20 - i love the v20 but its getting old obviously and slow and its driving me crazy with how slow and laggy it feels.
i appreciate any help on this topic!

ok so i'm bumping this
can i buy an s20 ultra from amazon that says unlocked
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Unlocked-Fingerprint-Recognition-Long-Lasting/dp/B082XYGR2C/
something like this that says unlocked?
would i be able to root this and use it on verizon?
i just dont want to spend that kind of money on a phone and not even be able to root it and unlock the bootloader and not be able to put TWRP and magisk and xposed and etc

unlocked means carrier unlocked as for the bootloader https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/sampwnd-usa-model-bl-unlock-info-u-u1-w.4201689/

jerrycoffman45 said:
unlocked means carrier unlocked as for the bootloader https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/sampwnd-usa-model-bl-unlock-info-u-u1-w.4201689/
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thanks for that link! that is exactly what i was looking for!