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The very first thing that I noticed after upgrading to 2.2 was that the browser was noticeably more sluggish when panning and was visibly lagging behind my finger on the screen. It's only obvious on sites with complex content (e.g. www.planetf1.com ) and happens even with Flash switched off
I'm pretty sure this didn't happen with 2.1 as it was immediately apparent once I'd upgraded, but without having them side by side, it's hard to tell.
Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
Nope. planetf1.com loads just fine on mine. (with flash enabled)
Yes... I've noticed the same behaviuor!!! Now, with official 2.2 rom, scrolling sites is lagging respect to the fingers movement!
Came here to see if there were any threads on this. I notice the exact same thing in nearly all of the full fat websites (not the mobile versions) I go on. It's really irritating as the browser is the main thing I use on the phone besides texts, and it's nowhere near as snappy as before. Sort of wish I'd held off updating.
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mine is perfectly fine but i did a full data and phone reset
Inertia lacking
For me, it's not the speed as such, but the speed of the scrolling - it's still smooth and not jerky, but there seems to be a lack of "inertia".
The same can be said for Google Maps - flicking or scrolling quickly doesn't produce quite as much speed and the scrolling simply slows down much faster than before with much less inertia/elasticity (if that makes sense!)
Not a major problem, and as I said, it's still smooth and not jerky for me which would have been a much bigger problem if the frame-rate had reduced...
I have noticed scrolling isn't quite as smooth as 2.1, I have flash on demand but noticed animated images now animate. I wonder if that slows the scrolling down.
Same here on regular sites (not mobile ones). What's diference between flash always on and on demand?
Same here.. Experiencing more laggy scrolling in browser
Thanks all. Good to know I'm not alone...
Again, this is my primary app on the device so for me at least, this is a bit of a downgrade
Perhaps a cache purge might help....
In di.se I can´t scroll down at first, I have to zoom in to be able to scroll down. There wasnt any problems before upgrade
I cleared my cache and turned my phone off and on and that seems to have cleared up my sluggish browser.
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its a real pity there are some annoying little issues.
The browser home page does not work. Evenif you kill the browser it will still load on the last page you visited. not google etc or whatever you want as your homepage. I wanted 2.2 fast too, but some basic QA could have caught these issues.
yup it is lagging and slow in comparison to 2.1
I can cope with most issues but this is to bad. Going to roll back until this is fixed
silure130 said:
I can cope with most issues but this is to bad. Going to roll back until this is fixed
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This lag is really bad and noticeable, I'm.surprised not as many people are making a big thing of it, it is to me lol .
I've done a full wipe and the browser lag is still there
Anyone know what else to try
Yep I am experiencing the same.
Gotta be something to do with Flash right?
Mines not super smooth either but for how often I use it where I need it, it doesn't bother me at all.
I've also noticed scrolling is a bit jerky, not just in browser but in any list, for example flicking through apps in the app drawer. It's annoyed me for a while, I've put it down to quirks of unofficial roms. Seems to be worse in some roms more than others, and also worse when I have more apps installed but I may be imagining that.
Browser is slower than 2.1, it's annoying.
Last year, when the "official" 2.3 Sense ROM came out, I waited until it was rootable and then installed it (yeah, love to be on the save side).
Among several issues there was a really annoying browser bug which FC at random times, especially when navigation quite fast between several pages (for example browsing forward and back on mobile optimized sites like the forum section of "heise-online.mobi"), I think it happens after pressing the back button.
I didn't like Sense, so I switched to Oxygen and later to CM7.
In CM7.1 I often had Browser issues again, but it did not FC but just stopped responding. Searching through the internet I found other ppl with the same issue... but no solution.
Now I'm using euroskank's CM7.2RC1 Build which is really great - but guess what: Browser crashes at random times when quickly navigation.
I checked the logs for stack traces and those crashes occur always in libwebcore.
So is there something broken in 2.3's webcore implementation?
I have used cm7.1 for quite a long time using ManU 2.0 SVS kernel. Try flashing that ROM and kernel combination, coz its the most stable combo i have found. No freezes, reboots or FCs. Press Thanks if my advice works
Can't say I noticed that on rooted stock roms, but haven't really used stock browser at all.
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I'm now on CM7.2RC1 which includes several webkit fixes, but browser is still crashing.
This often happens when quickly navigating between web pages (i.e. go quickly forward/backward in threads).
*sigh* maybe I'll try a full wipe and check if this still happens.... however wiping dalvik cache and clearing data of "Browser" and "HTML-Anzeige" (HTML-View?) should reset all to default - in theory...
erklat said:
Can't say I noticed that on rooted stock roms, but haven't really used stock browser at all.
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Me too. Plus the fact that the internet cache is saved on the internal memory blows. Yeah I can link it to the sd-ext with a couple of commands but why bother when there are better 3rd party browser that does it for you and performs better.
Well, some 3rd party browsers like dolphin suffer from the same issue because they use the same webkit libs.
Had those hangs of CM7.1 in dolphin, too.
Also, I don't like firefox or opera, so there isn't much choice left...
I've been using Dolphin and I never encounter crashes with CM7 nightlies and this v7.2rc1. I'm using the mini version although I assume they use the same engine.
Maybe I should really do a clean wipe/reinstall.
I was carrying old data over from 7.1 (where I had hangs, not crashes, but some ppl reported them too in the cm forums - so I was not alone).
If it still happens, I'll create a bug report in the cm issue tracker.
I know how to collect logcat and stacktraces (tombstones), maybe this helps identifying this problem.
Edit: Done. Also happens with a clean full wipe installation - opened CM issue 4867
Hi guys, the kitkat update is definitely smoother than 4.3 in general. But my browser performance is definitely worse. I've tried many different browsers but I can't seem to find one that is perfectly smooth.
When I scroll it's laggy and the text doesn't get rendered quick enough. I scroll, everything gets blurry and then it takes a second until the site is sharp. I hope you understand what I'm talking about But that makes scrolling around a page really annoying.
My main browser that I used with 4.3 "habit browser" has gotten more laggy in general.
Anyone else noticing this? BTW i did a factory reset after upgrading to kitkat.
i'm using chrome and it became way better in terms of performance, yes device does not renders entire webpage in a single try but it works fine enough for me, Scrolling lag is not too much to have an effect on experince. If you are using chrome you can modify "chrome://flags" to adjust it to your liking.
Thx for the tip. I just tried dolphin and that seem the best until now. But it has some buttons in weird places. Not ideal but will do.
I also tried Firefox. It takes like 10 secs to render every time after scrolling! It's really bad.
So i have a top of the line tablet with octacore, 3gb of ram and the latest KitKat 4.4.2, I don't use energy saving either. And no matter what browser I use the experience is never satisfactory.
Chrome is pretty good but it has 0 functionality. We use our fingers not a mouse! And still laggy in certain situations (same goes for Samsung stock browser).
UC browser HD is very good too in terms of scrolling, but when you're typing text is lagging behind and switching and creating tabs stutters horribly.
And Firefox, the mother of lag. When you scroll down a page really fast it takes the browser up to 5 seconds to render the damn page! While you are already looking at it. Try it out for yourself, you scroll then you only get a gray page, then everything plops in very blurry and then after another few seconds stuff gets rendered and is finally sharp.
I know that every browser has this issue to some extent. But most render much faster than firefox so it doesn't appear as an issue. Anyway can't android keep a Web page in memory completely? I have 3gb of it!
Or maybe I'm doing it wrong or you guys can suggest me a different browser with good usability and smoothness? Thx in advance
Unfortunately it's not smooth and it seems that it will never be. Only next browser seems to be little better from others.
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Maybe you should try Dolphin Browser, imo its quite smooth and not laggy...
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I use Opera ,,very fast and smooth..
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Boat Browser and Habit Browser both are smooth and offer a lot if functionality.
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Thing is, some sites are "busy" and others are not.
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Freakstyler said:
Boat Browser and Habit Browser both are smooth and offer a lot if functionality.
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Then maybe we just have different perceptions boat browser is not smooth at all on my tablet... Maybe I have to do a video or something because boat browser is one of the most laggy browsers I've tried :/ not as bad as firefox but pretty annoying.
nearly all browsers are laggy, there is so much ad crap loaded these days.
Once the page has loaded mine is smooth, so depends on you internet speed I guess.
My Ipad is the same.
Many ram doesn't mean will smooth. Because it use power of GPU and app can be use it and resoluiton.
Opera i see very smooth. Chrome and fire fox lag like hell.
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Then maybe we just have different perceptions boat browser is not smooth at all on my tablet... Maybe I have to do a video or something because boat browser is one of the most laggy browsers I've tried :/ not as bad as firefox but pretty annoying.
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We must... I've tried just about every browser on my P600.... Boat is about as fast as they come... ( I have recently started to use Habit a little more due to lower CPU use, and a few nice features).
Boat both Tablet and Phone versions have been used daily for 6months, it simply doesn't lag... I can pinch to zoom, pan, scroll all completely with ease and without any lag, stutter or hiccup. Even browsers like Opera were too slow for me, I could see the text blur for a second before becoming sharp when zooming, panning or scrolling quickly. I don't have any such issues with Boat. Others like Chrome and Firefox just aren't even close.
I have of course optimized my tablet in numerous ways (without root) such as developer option animations, and Nova launcher etc.
Feel free to try other browsers mentioned here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2516754
If you are receiving lag on boat, you are doing something wrong or you have a problem with your tablet...
Thx for your lengthy post. I'd like to believe then, that I have different settings or something... I tried to make a video and compare boat browser and UC HD (which is smooth but has other issues).
I used n4g.com and Watson.ch both are big pages with lots of images. It's not that apparent in the video though because it's not 60fps (duh) but I think you can see the difference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMsG3DVLW_g
Oh well ..
On an IPAD , you cant really scroll completely like you can in Android ...
On Android the faster you move your finger the sooner it reaches the bottom of the page .. But on IPAD it only scrolls to an extent , hiding the fact that its still loading the rest of the webpage in the background . IOS is really good at hiding a lot of other things too and I actually like that and dont mind that since the experience is nice .. The only reason why I dont like IOS is because of a lack of a file browser , no usb pen drive connectivity , expandable storage , and itunes for doing anything and very little customization ..
The UI on an IPAD is really smooth and thats how its been ... plus ios talks in low level language ( Objective - C ) to the hardware directly where as Android has a middle man ( JAVA ) in between itself and the hardware
I have a surface pro .. and thats really really smooth for anything but its too heavy ..
So I have realized there is no happy place yet
Ideally I would wish there will be an os that has Flexibility of Android , Smoothness and optimization like IOS and Power of The Surface pro .. with Accurate Stylus support .... Oh well I can only dream .. but its funny that such technology still does not exist in 2014 .
No happy place :crying: wurde
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We have some amazing browsers out there... It would just be nice if they were a bit smoother overall. And somehow it feels like it's simple a matter of better code and not hardware limitations... That's what's bugging me!
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Thx for your lengthy post. I'd like to believe then, that I have different settings or something... I tried to make a video and compare boat browser and UC HD (which is smooth but has other issues).
I used n4g.com and Watson.ch both are big pages with lots of images. It's not that apparent in the video though because it's not 60fps (duh) but I think you can see the difference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMsG3DVLW_g
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No problems... I can see the differences in your video, I'm not sure it's a huge difference but I can notice it.
Can you try the Mobile version of Boat instead of the Tablet version, for some reason I mainly stuck with the Phone version, although I have both loaded. I will try and also post a video at some stage of the varying browsers on mine to also show the difference, but it may take a few days...
Also UC browser (which has a reputation for being one of the fastest) seems to work fairly well on your video. What were/are your other issues, perhaps it's easier to address those issues than trying to get the other browsers working as fast for you.
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So i have a top of the line tablet with octacore, 3gb of ram and the latest KitKat 4.4.2, I don't use energy saving either. And no matter what browser I use the experience is never satisfactory.
Chrome is pretty good but it has 0 functionality. We use our fingers not a mouse! And still laggy in certain situations (same goes for Samsung stock browser).
UC browser HD is very good too in terms of scrolling, but when you're typing text is lagging behind and switching and creating tabs stutters horribly.
And Firefox, the mother of lag. When you scroll down a page really fast it takes the browser up to 5 seconds to render the damn page! While you are already looking at it. Try it out for yourself, you scroll then you only get a gray page, then everything plops in very blurry and then after another few seconds stuff gets rendered and is finally sharp.
I know that every browser has this issue to some extent. But most render much faster than firefox so it doesn't appear as an issue. Anyway can't android keep a Web page in memory completely? I have 3gb of it!
Or maybe I'm doing it wrong or you guys can suggest me a different browser with good usability and smoothness? Thx in advance
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Do you use developer options?
Boat browser was stuttering for me a lot also. Seeing this thread reminded me of the force GPU rendering option which I had checked.
I just unchecked it and it seems to be making a difference
Edit: Disregard that, doesn't make any difference.
Hmm. I like the stock browser in 4.4. It's a hell of a lot faster than 4.3 was. XDA and the WSJ are heavy sites; is this slow?
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Hmm. I like the stock browser in 4.4. It's a hell of a lot faster than 4.3 was. XDA and the WSJ are heavy sites; is this slow?
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To me that does seem a tad bit on the slow side. Not so much the page loading but the repressiveness to pinch-to-zoom and finger scrolling seemed a bit laggy.
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To me that does seem a tad bit on the slow side. Not so much the page loading but the repressiveness to pinch-to-zoom and finger scrolling seemed a bit laggy.
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Screen painting is a bit slower than my N3 but that's to be expected considering the enormous difference in display area. Page loading (which is slower than screen painting) is exactly the same on both. So is navigating around a page once it's loaded. I guess I have low standards.
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Screen painting is a bit slower than my N3 but that's to be expected considering the enormous difference in display area. Page loading (which is slower than screen painting) is exactly the same on both. So is navigating around a page once it's loaded. I guess I have low standards.
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I don't have a Note 3 but I have a Nexus 5 and it's no where near that laggy. In fact I'm pretty sure my Note 10.1 2014 is smoother than that as well. But I'm rooted with a bunch of tweaks, custom ROM, and custom kernel.
Here my takes:
1) Boat browser - fastest and best features, support flash
2) dolphin browser - second place, similar features as Boat, support flash
3) Others that support flash.
Try http://finance.yahoo.com and see how fast and how the page display with your browser!!
Hey guys, I'm not sure if it is appropriate to create a new thread, but I really did numerous searches with no luck.
[Spec]
Nexus 7 2013 WIFI(flo)
TWRP 2.8.6
Kernel Glitch for Flo/Deb - r320
(No overlock, No additional drivers)
CM12 Nightly 20150405
gapps itvends.com/gapps/gapps-lp-20141212-signed.zip
/Data /Cache=f2fs
/System = ext4
[Phenomenon]
1. Chrome page randomly freezes or crashes especially when scrolling.
2. A stream video app called "Dlife" keep giving error code " -2147483648" and cannot play any video. (Youtube etc. are fine.)
(it is a buggy app, maybe nothing to do with android.)
[What I tried]
1. wiping caches
2. uninstalling google "Webview" component
3. changing kernel to fransco, but that overclocked CPU to 1.7Ghz by default and I can't change it, everything seems very fast so I couldn't reproduce the problem before I uninstalled it.
I also tried to shift to ElementalX kernel 3.05, but it seems not to support f2fs so I had to give up.
Because I'm a newbie to all those flash/rom/kernel things, I can't determine whether this issue is related to OS or kernel or Apps.
Any advices will be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
its not you my Galaxy s3 freezes a lot on certain web pages as well with chrome, stock browser is just fine, I use chrome beta. for a while chrome would freeze on the mobile site of XDA and the page would crash, I just used the desktop site since then and no issues. I have a feeling its just something to do with chrome.
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its not you my Galaxy s3 freezes a lot on certain web pages as well with chrome, stock browser is just fine, I use chrome beta. for a while chrome would freeze on the mobile site of XDA and the page would crash, I just used the desktop site since then and no issues. I have a feeling its just something to do with chrome.
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Thanks for your reply.
I also tried flashing to another 5.1ROM and increased chrome memory quota with no luck.
It's maybe not "freeze" but "lag", just not responding for 2-3 seconds.
I'll be waiting for CM12.1 or just shift to firefox etc.
After installed Chrome as a system app by flashing PA GApps mini + Chrome module,
I somewhat feel chrome is becoming more smooth, but I'm not sure.
The latest version is flashed so there is no update installed so far.