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Selecting Messages by "dragging" down with finger

Hello,
On all previous HTCs, including the original Touch Pro, I used to be able to drag down with my finger to select multiple messages in email (or even files in explorer). This is no longer possible as dragging down with the finger scrolls the whole page. I know it is possible to select messages by going through the menus, but it is a very long-winded way of doing this.
Is there a registry setting somewhere that can turn off this "feature" - it is the same problem even when turning off TouchFLO 3D.
Thanks in advance for any help on this.

Same Issue
I was begining to wonder whether it was just me that had this problem. Anyone know of a fix??
Thanks in advance.

You still can. highlight the item you like to begin with.
Use your soft or hard keyb. to hit "shift" or "ctrl" and start selecting the usual way.

Thanks for the suggestion. I wanted to do it without opening out the keyboard or workarounds like the soft keyboard.
It just really bugs me that perfectly good functionality has been removed in the name of "improvement".
Even a compromise such as being able to drag down to select on the left side of the screen (like Resco Explorer) would be good enough, with the rest of the screen being left for scrolling.
If anyone knows of a registry key or something to fix this, please enlighten me.
Thanks!

this is getting to me to i loke to quickly block delete emails that come in all the time thati dont need etc

Crazy isn't it! Removing the "D" Pad coupled with this loss of 'block selecting' functionality has made the device much more unusable.

even with the keyboard, i am no longer able to select multiple msgs
can someone confirm this?

same here.. still searching for the cause.

When looking at a folder, go Menu -> Select Messages -> Several. Then just touch those you want to delete

Mine lets me do menu.....select messages....several.
/beaten to it

i used to be able to do "SHIFT + DOWN direction key" to select several msg at 1 go
that was on TP1
the function disappeared..

screen shot with aftv remote?

Been playing around with my new Bluetooth keyboard and really like the easy screenshot option by pressing ctrl + s. Is there anyway to configure the stock remote to do this?
Also, there is one obvious flaw with web browsers Ive tried. The on-screen keyboard pops up, blocking a good deal of the page and its also very awkward. How do i disable this? And while im at it...having a web browser loses some of its convenience when you need to navigate the deep forest of crap that is the fire os ui. How do i get a shortcut in the recent apps section? Would i need to install appstore then sideload a web browser from amazon? Or maybe theres a llama event that can be used?
Id appreciate any tips. Itll save lots of time in trial & error. Thanks.

KLit75 said:
Been playing around with my new Bluetooth keyboard and really like the easy screenshot option by pressing ctrl + s. Is there anyway to configure the stock remote to do this?
Also, there is one obvious flaw with web browsers Ive tried. The on-screen keyboard pops up, blocking a good deal of the page and its also very awkward. How do i disable this? And while im at it...having a web browser loses some of its convenience when you need to navigate the deep forest of crap that is the fire os ui. How do i get a shortcut in the recent apps section? Would i need to install appstore then sideload a web browser from amazon? Or maybe theres a llama event that can be used?
Id appreciate any tips. Itll save lots of time in trial & error. Thanks.
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It is not a browser flaw, it works the same way on all android devices. You tap the text area, the keyboard pops up. Some browsers do it automatically on sites if you enter a site that is already setup for you to start typing. Youtube, Facebook and several other sites are already setup for you start typing when you enter the site so they keyboard pops up automatically. A way to stp this is to tap anywhere on the screen before the keyboard pops up. That why I use Maxthon browser cause it does not auto popup the keyboard on those sites like Firefox and Chrome do. Also, if you wanna type without the keyboard popping up all you have to do is hold down on the text area for a few seconds and the little placer and the word paste should popup, then let off the text area and you can type without the keyboard popping up. It works the same way on all android devices except you use your mouse button instead of your finger. So all you have to do is go to the text area you wanna type in and place your cursor there, hold down on the mouse button for a couple seconds, the placer and the word paste will popup, depress the mouse button and you can type without the keyboard popping up. Just like on all android devices this method does not work for all apps, but it does for most apps. I type 90% of the time on the Fire TV without the keyboard ever popping up. Advice, try it on your phone first to get the hang of it. Open your browser, hold down on a text area and you will see that after a couple seconds paste will appear and the keyboard does not popup, which means if you had a keyboard you could type without the onscreen keyboard popping up and it works the exact same way on the Fire TV.

porkenhimer said:
It is not a browser flaw, it works the same way on all android devices. You tap the text area, the keyboard pops up. Some browsers do it automatically on sites if you enter a site that is already setup for you to start typing. Youtube, Facebook and several other sites are already setup for you start typing when you enter the site so they keyboard pops up automatically. A way to stp this is to tap anywhere on the screen before the keyboard pops up. That why I use Maxthon browser cause it does not auto popup the keyboard on those sites like Firefox and Chrome do. Also, if you wanna type without the keyboard popping up all you have to do is hold down on the text area for a few seconds and the little placer and the word paste should popup, then let off the text area and you can type without the keyboard popping up. It works the same way on all android devices except you use your mouse button instead of your finger. So all you have to do is go to the text area you wanna type in and place your cursor there, hold down on the mouse button for a couple seconds, the placer and the word paste will popup, depress the mouse button and you can type without the keyboard popping up. Just like on all android devices this method does not work for all apps, but it does for most apps. I type 90% of the time on the Fire TV without the keyboard ever popping up. Advice, try it on your phone first to get the hang of it. Open your browser, hold down on a text area and you will see that after a couple seconds paste will appear and the keyboard does not popup, which means if you had a keyboard you could type without the onscreen keyboard popping up and it works the exact same way on the Fire TV.
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Great info! And that's a cool trick (holding down to avoid pop up). Still I have questions just not real techy ones. Essentially android is made for mobile so not being able to disable the keyboard wouldn't make sense. But now that its branched into set top boxes and some people are installing this on PC, not to mention chrome books...I can't believe the os isn't slightly modded for these platforms. If I'm not mistaken, I may have seen a xposed module that let's you do that? But the xposed mods I've tried on aftv have been limited to rbox TV mods and the necessary settings for playstore to work but itll be worth looking into. For now its not a big hardship.

Its not a trick. Android is made to do that. If you hold your finger/cursor over the text area, option will popup instead of the keyboard, and its always been that way.

invisible cursor?

Is anyone else getting an invisible cursor on the default launcher? The cursor appears for me inside all apps, but becomes invisble on the home screen of the default launcher.

I also just realized that the cursor will also disappear if any system menu pops up. Example, if I try to install an apk the first menu pops up and I can use my mouse to click install, but when the next menu pops up that says next/install, the cursor disappears. The cursor does not become disabled, it just becomes invisable, but its kinda useless if you can't see it. I hope this is just a bug and not amazons way of saying they do not want us to use a mouse. Like I said, it still works in apps, but not on the home launcher or system menus.

A lot of people have looked at the thread, but nobody has replied so either I did not explain well enough or nobody is having the same problem. I'll explain again. When I updated to the latest firmware my cursor is now a smaller blue ring, is this normal? Also the cursor no longer appears on the default launcher or any system menus. If I go to home the cursor simply disappears, is this normal on the latest update? My cursor always appeared throughout the OS on past updates. This happens with my USB mice and my bluetooth mouse so its not the mice causing this to happen. The mouse cursor does appear on the home screen if I use wukong, but its a different cursor then the default cursor. Will someone please let me know if their cursor is also invisible on the default launcher after the latest update so I will know if this is normal or if something is wrong?

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A lot of people have looked at the thread, but nobody has replied so either I did not explain well enough or nobody is having the same problem. I'll explain again. When I updated to the latest firmware my cursor is now a smaller blue ring, is this normal? Also the cursor no longer appears on the default launcher or any system menus. If I go to home the cursor simply disappears, is this normal on the latest update? My cursor always appeared throughout the OS on past updates. This happens with my USB mice and my bluetooth mouse so its not the mice causing this to happen. The mouse cursor does appear on the home screen if I use wukong, but its a different cursor then the default cursor. Will someone please let me know if their cursor is also invisible on the default launcher after the latest update so I will know if this is normal or if something is wrong?
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It disappears for me too, using a K400 for mouse duties.

porkenhimer said:
A lot of people have looked at the thread, but nobody has replied so either I did not explain well enough or nobody is having the same problem. I'll explain again. When I updated to the latest firmware my cursor is now a smaller blue ring, is this normal? Also the cursor no longer appears on the default launcher or any system menus. If I go to home the cursor simply disappears, is this normal on the latest update? My cursor always appeared throughout the OS on past updates. This happens with my USB mice and my bluetooth mouse so its not the mice causing this to happen. The mouse cursor does appear on the home screen if I use wukong, but its a different cursor then the default cursor. Will someone please let me know if their cursor is also invisible on the default launcher after the latest update so I will know if this is normal or if something is wrong?
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Well I tried it with k400 and yes the cursors changed to blue inside screen I was currently on (Netflix) But its not appearing on homescreen. You say invisible but I can't seem to get anything to click there. But, in fairness, I hadn't used the k400 much up to this point.
Anyways, you're not the only one experiencing this.

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KLit75 said:
Well I tried it with k400 and yes the cursors changed to blue inside screen I was currently on (Netflix) But its not appearing on homescreen. You say invisible but I can't seem to get anything to click there. But, in fairness, I hadn't used the k400 much up to this point.
Anyways, you're not the only one experiencing this.
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I say invisible, cause the mouse is still functioning even thought you cannot see it. I have the app store apk instlled so all of my apps are on the home screen and I can still click on them with the mouse, but its pointless to open apps not knowing which app you are clicking on. I also have Dock4Droid installed and can activate it by using the mouse even though the cursor cannot be seen, so its clear the cursor is becoming invisible for some reason. I am sure this can be fixed on rooted devices, but I am not rooted. There are other devices where the manufacture has made the cursor invisible on certain parts of the OS. Now that I know its happening to others I am inclined to think Amazon has done this to force people to use the remote. If it still happens after the next update then it will be clear that amazon doesn't want us to use a mouse to click on system menus and wants us to use the remote instead. Its kinda weird that they would add support for bluetooth devices like mice, but take away the ability to use a mouse on system menus, but maybe that was the reason they didn't have support for bluetooth devices in the past. Hopefully its just a bug. Not being able to use a mouse throughout the OS has ruined the experience for me since the last update.

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​I say invisible, cause the mouse is still functioning even thought you cannot see it. I have the app store apk instlled so all of my apps are on the home screen and I can still click on them with the mouse, but its pointless to open apps not knowing which app you are clicking on. I also have Dock4Droid installed and can activate it by using the mouse even though the cursor cannot be seen, so its clear the cursor is becoming invisible for some reason. I am sure this can be fixed on rooted devices, but I am not rooted. There are other devices where the manufacture has made the cursor invisible on certain parts of the OS. Now that I know its happening to others I am inclined to think Amazon has done this to force people to use the remote. If it still happens after the next update then it will be clear that amazon doesn't want us to use a mouse to click on system menus and wants us to use the remote instead. Its kinda weird that they would add support for bluetooth devices like mice, but take away the ability to use a mouse on system menus, but maybe that was the reason they didn't have support for bluetooth devices in the past. Hopefully its just a bug. Not being able to use a mouse throughout the OS has ruined the experience for me since the last update.
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yes. Im pretty ticked off if this isnt a bug. Just purchased a keyboard/mousepad specifically for aftv. I might contact them. Theres nothing nefarious about keyboards, but whenever i contact them i get the feeling the rep has no clue.
More i think about it...i doubt its intentional. This was a big update.

KLit75 said:
yes. Im pretty ticked off if this isnt a bug. Just purchased a keyboard/mousepad specifically for aftv. I might contact them. Theres nothing nefarious about keyboards, but whenever i contact them i get the feeling the rep has no clue.
More i think about it...i doubt its intentional. This was a big update.
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I think its intentional, cause I remember this happening on other devices and people having to edit a file to get the cursor to appear on certain part of the OS. It makes sense for them to hide the cursor now that they have given us the use of bluetooth mice etc. Its kind of like they are telling us that we need to use the remote that they supplied with their device. It sucks because installing apks basically has to be done with the remote now, cause as soon as the next/install menu pops up the cursor disappears making it hard to know where to click install. Now I have to pickup my remote everytime I install an app. Also with Dock4Droid I was always able to force close apps from anywhere, but now as soon as the app info menu pops up the cursor disappears, which is crazy, cause if you click the wrong spot you could accidentally uninstall an app. The new update is nice, and I have noticed a slight upgrade that is actually good that I have not heard anyone mention, they made the navigation sounds louder on the home screen. I like that and I like the other upgrades, but the cursor becoming invisible is irking the hell out of me. Now I know why the invisible cursor made everyone mad on other devices. At least the mouse still works just does not appear on any system menus or default launcher. I have a feeling that this problem is here to stay unless someone fixes it for rooted devices. It wouldn't be that big of a problem if we could enable seeing touches, but there is no option for that in the developer options like there is on normal android devices. I am very surprised that nobody else has mentioned this, cause I have a feeling that if enough people do not complain about it then nothing will be done to change it. I want my cursor back on every section of the OS, not just inside apps. I rarely used my remote before, but now I have to use it, which I do not like.

Just updated to the 51.1.5.0_user_515030720 firmware and the cursor is still invisible on the Fire TV Lancher and on system menus. Was hoping it was just a bug, but now I am sure its not a bug and Amazon does not think our cursors should be visible on their launcher or their menus.

Prevent/disable sleep on fire TV stick

Hi, so I have a fire stick, which I need to relay a single website on constantly for a company, but the thing is, even though firefox is open the stick will go to sleep mode. I sorta need this turned off, I understand there is a way to do this via adb commands, could anyone explain this further? I've tried tasker yet failed to even set up a profile as I couldn't hit the + button with the limited scrolling and functionality that accompanies the remote control with the stick.
any help is appreciated,
thanks!

I blame the youth

What a difference a day makes. Yesterday my rad new Xtrons Android headunit was working almost* fine and today, after following conventional wisdom and letting my 15yo nephew pimp it, it's in all sorts of...well fckd.
Keen on some help from the collective wisdom. Before anyone helpfully suggests a factory reset... well, that's been done, sooo many times. When your nephew CHANGES the factory settings, it becomes a cycle of hell.
Unit is an Xtrons PB86MTVP. 8" HD, Android 6.0' Octa-Core 64bit 32GB.
Current main problem is that the touch screen inputs are reverse and diagonally opposed. What the hell do I mean by that? If I want to type on the qwerty keyboard or simply tap an icon, I have to use my cunning and hit an area or button diagonal and opposite for it to work. If I can get past this issue then maybe I can move to the next one which is that the unit doesnt power on/off with the ignition.
To be clear, things tried (multiple times in some cases) include
Reset via reset button
reset via software app section
undoing car battery
pulling unit back out and disconnecting
turning on and off again
swearing
So, who can help? got a silver bullet?
TIA
Joe

You could go to settings start right down the line set your home screen back and you should have a setting there for different keyboards also that should get yoy back to normal
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You could go to settings start right down the line set your home screen back and you should have a setting there for different keyboards also that should get yoy back to normal
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thanks for the reply djkeylenux. I've got the right keyboard though, thats not the problem. the problem is the touch input on the screen, no matter which screen I'm on.

Well beside calibrate witch I thing you tried you could also go to developer options take a kook at running process see if there's something running causing the problem,

I think you lost the MCU settings.
Go to settings and then into Factory Settings menu. Password is 126.
Then in keys tab re-calibrate the screen. During calibration you will first see a "+1" in one of the corners. Tap it with your finger. Then in opposite corner "+2" will appear. Tap it too. Then accept and apply ypir settings and the unit will reboot. The touchscreen will work correctly then
In the same screen you can also re-configure the touch buttons and physical buttons of yoir device.
It looks like someone potentially did an MCU upgrade/flash. If there was no backup of the settings then you lost it all. Which also means you might have lost bluetooth connectivity as the bt module type on first page of factory setting might be wrong too. Also canbus and other things might be affected. I recpmmend to check out the discussion threads on MTCD devices here. Someone with the same unit might tell you the right settings.
Hint: If you have trouble tapping the icons with non-calibrated screen. Try connecting a standard USB mouse to any of the USB ports.