Been playing around with my new Bluetooth keyboard and really like the easy screenshot option by pressing ctrl + s. Is there anyway to configure the stock remote to do this?
Also, there is one obvious flaw with web browsers Ive tried. The on-screen keyboard pops up, blocking a good deal of the page and its also very awkward. How do i disable this? And while im at it...having a web browser loses some of its convenience when you need to navigate the deep forest of crap that is the fire os ui. How do i get a shortcut in the recent apps section? Would i need to install appstore then sideload a web browser from amazon? Or maybe theres a llama event that can be used?
Id appreciate any tips. Itll save lots of time in trial & error. Thanks.
KLit75 said:
Been playing around with my new Bluetooth keyboard and really like the easy screenshot option by pressing ctrl + s. Is there anyway to configure the stock remote to do this?
Also, there is one obvious flaw with web browsers Ive tried. The on-screen keyboard pops up, blocking a good deal of the page and its also very awkward. How do i disable this? And while im at it...having a web browser loses some of its convenience when you need to navigate the deep forest of crap that is the fire os ui. How do i get a shortcut in the recent apps section? Would i need to install appstore then sideload a web browser from amazon? Or maybe theres a llama event that can be used?
Id appreciate any tips. Itll save lots of time in trial & error. Thanks.
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It is not a browser flaw, it works the same way on all android devices. You tap the text area, the keyboard pops up. Some browsers do it automatically on sites if you enter a site that is already setup for you to start typing. Youtube, Facebook and several other sites are already setup for you start typing when you enter the site so they keyboard pops up automatically. A way to stp this is to tap anywhere on the screen before the keyboard pops up. That why I use Maxthon browser cause it does not auto popup the keyboard on those sites like Firefox and Chrome do. Also, if you wanna type without the keyboard popping up all you have to do is hold down on the text area for a few seconds and the little placer and the word paste should popup, then let off the text area and you can type without the keyboard popping up. It works the same way on all android devices except you use your mouse button instead of your finger. So all you have to do is go to the text area you wanna type in and place your cursor there, hold down on the mouse button for a couple seconds, the placer and the word paste will popup, depress the mouse button and you can type without the keyboard popping up. Just like on all android devices this method does not work for all apps, but it does for most apps. I type 90% of the time on the Fire TV without the keyboard ever popping up. Advice, try it on your phone first to get the hang of it. Open your browser, hold down on a text area and you will see that after a couple seconds paste will appear and the keyboard does not popup, which means if you had a keyboard you could type without the onscreen keyboard popping up and it works the exact same way on the Fire TV.
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It is not a browser flaw, it works the same way on all android devices. You tap the text area, the keyboard pops up. Some browsers do it automatically on sites if you enter a site that is already setup for you to start typing. Youtube, Facebook and several other sites are already setup for you start typing when you enter the site so they keyboard pops up automatically. A way to stp this is to tap anywhere on the screen before the keyboard pops up. That why I use Maxthon browser cause it does not auto popup the keyboard on those sites like Firefox and Chrome do. Also, if you wanna type without the keyboard popping up all you have to do is hold down on the text area for a few seconds and the little placer and the word paste should popup, then let off the text area and you can type without the keyboard popping up. It works the same way on all android devices except you use your mouse button instead of your finger. So all you have to do is go to the text area you wanna type in and place your cursor there, hold down on the mouse button for a couple seconds, the placer and the word paste will popup, depress the mouse button and you can type without the keyboard popping up. Just like on all android devices this method does not work for all apps, but it does for most apps. I type 90% of the time on the Fire TV without the keyboard ever popping up. Advice, try it on your phone first to get the hang of it. Open your browser, hold down on a text area and you will see that after a couple seconds paste will appear and the keyboard does not popup, which means if you had a keyboard you could type without the onscreen keyboard popping up and it works the exact same way on the Fire TV.
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Great info! And that's a cool trick (holding down to avoid pop up). Still I have questions just not real techy ones. Essentially android is made for mobile so not being able to disable the keyboard wouldn't make sense. But now that its branched into set top boxes and some people are installing this on PC, not to mention chrome books...I can't believe the os isn't slightly modded for these platforms. If I'm not mistaken, I may have seen a xposed module that let's you do that? But the xposed mods I've tried on aftv have been limited to rbox TV mods and the necessary settings for playstore to work but itll be worth looking into. For now its not a big hardship.
Its not a trick. Android is made to do that. If you hold your finger/cursor over the text area, option will popup instead of the keyboard, and its always been that way.
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Hey guys,
I'm running a Lumia 800 with the 8107 OS so I thought the disappearing Keyboard issue should have been fixed. However sometimes, when I write a mail or message it happens that the Keyboard still vanishes. I was not able to reproduce the Problem in parts. Could you please try the following and tell me what happens:
1. Go to the Home Screen
2. Open either an app from the home Screen or from the programs list
3. As soon as the Programm Shows the loading Screen hit the search button
4. Tap on the search box and wait
5. The Keyboard should now dissapear after a few seconds
This works best with Applications that take some time to load, like Facebook or Board Express. Instead of opening the Search App you can go into every app that opens the keyboard. I also guess that Network related callbacks are responsible for the dissapearing keyboard. You can try the following as well:
1. Open the Facebook App
2. Wait for it to load and Display the recent items
3. Hit "..." and "Refresh"
4. Tap the Search Button and open the Keyboard
5. After a few seconds the Keyboard disappears.
It would be great if some of you guys could try to reproduce this problem.
Regards
Chris
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Hey guys,
I'm running a Lumia 800 with the 8107 OS so I thought the disappearing Keyboard issue should have been fixed. However sometimes, when I write a mail or message it happens that the Keyboard still vanishes. I was not able to reproduce the Problem in parts. Could you please try the following and tell me what happens:
1. Go to the Home Screen
2. Open either an app from the home Screen or from the programs list
3. As soon as the Programm Shows the loading Screen hit the search button
4. Tap on the search box and wait
5. The Keyboard should now dissapear after a few seconds
This works best with Applications that take some time to load, like Facebook or Board Express. Instead of opening the Search App you can go into every app that opens the keyboard. I also guess that Network related callbacks are responsible for the dissapearing keyboard. You can try the following as well:
1. Open the Facebook App
2. Wait for it to load and Display the recent items
3. Hit "..." and "Refresh"
4. Tap the Search Button and open the Keyboard
5. After a few seconds the Keyboard disappears.
It would be great if some of you guys could try to reproduce this problem.
Regards
Chris
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The keyboard isn't disappearing in that case, the app is loading, and you're intentionally trying to type before it's fully loaded to get this behavior. The disappearing keyboard issue would occur MID SENTENCE while typing something as simple as a text after the message had already loaded. What you're doing is intentional and happens everywhere.
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The keyboard isn't disappearing in that case, the app is loading, and you're intentionally trying to type before it's fully loaded to get this behavior. The disappearing keyboard issue would occur MID SENTENCE while typing something as simple as a text after the message had already loaded. What you're doing is intentional and happens everywhere.
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Well, this are only two Scenarios where the Keyboard dissapears. However sometimes while composing a longer message for instance, it goes away. And I don't think this behavior is intended. Imagine you're in an area with bad coverage and hit refresh. This refresh can take around 20 or 30 seconds so you decide to write a text. Halfway in the text, the Keyboard will disappear while you are writing. At least that occurs on my device.
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Well, this are only two Scenarios where the Keyboard dissapears. However sometimes while composing a longer message for instance, it goes away. And I don't think this behavior is intended. Imagine you're in an area with bad coverage and hit refresh. This refresh can take around 20 or 30 seconds so you decide to write a text. Halfway in the text, the Keyboard will disappear while you are writing. At least that occurs on my device.
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I'm not sure what to tell you then. I know that the disappearing keyboard was solved for me. It's pretty much a given that on any device, because this used to happen to me on Android and WinMo, that refreshing incoming data will cause your typing indicator to disappear once the data has completely loaded. You can try this on Internet Explorer on your computer. It might be a hassle, but that occured before Mango's keyboard issue. As far as typing a long message, I've typed 10 page texts and haven't had the keyboard disappear once. When I had the disappearing keyboard, it would disappear every 3-4 words, sometimes quicker, and was quite annoying.
i think its not an internet related problem, it is caused by ram issues...if i play with angry birds with dehydration hack, then i switch to an incoming message and quickly reply, the keyboard disappears after 2 sec...lg o7, sorry for bad english..
Updated to 8107 last week and haven't seen the disappearing keyboard since. I call fail on this thread.
Haven't had any issues with disappearing keyboard since 8107, although it was frequent prior.
for some reason, it took two updates for my keyboard to stay. I did an update last week...and for whatever reason, i had another update last night, which appeared to be the same one I did earlier that week...don't know why.
but since, i've had no keyboard issues.
I second the one who said this thread is fail.
The method you gave is a way to force the page to refresh, so as soon as the page (or in this case the app or Bing search) loads with the keyboard, the background agents from the opened app causes the page you are in to refresh as well, thus the keyboard disappears.
The incident before, is when you are already typing a message for 10 seconds or so, then the keyboard will suddenly disappear for no apparent reason. In some occasions, it disappears again when you type on the message box as if the keyboard is doing a "double take" disappearing action = annoying.
That's exactly what I said. He's purposely trying to type while data/agents/pieces of the app are still loading or refreshing. Obviously the keyboard is going to disappear once its done. Go to a website on the phone, and start typing in a text box before it fully loads. Once it fully loads, it'll disappear. This is common knowledge and happens on every platform I've ever used...
Thanks for pointing up that this is intended. I thought it would be odd if an app in the Background could hide the Keyboard in a completely diffrent active app. But it seems as this behaviour is a Feature and not a bug.
Rather frustrating issue. Not sure if this is ROM related (I'm using AOKP M5) but I'm constantly crashing when typing in the Google Search widget or Places. It seems to happen more frequently when I type quickly, although it's also happened when typing slowly at times. This happens no matter if I use stock keyboard or SwiftKey.
Also, when entering the keyboard's number layout, it won't stay in the numbered layout. Will usually default back to the lettered layout while I'm typing. I'll have to fight with it to try and quickly enter in an address, but then it'll crash.
I don't get any force close errors for either google search widget or places, it just crashes to the homescreen. It doesn't happen anywhere else, not messages or any other search section, just google search widget and places.
Any ideas?
I've cleared data/cache for all related google apps including the keyboard apps and still the same thing. It's rendered those apps completely useless.
It could be not an issue with the ROM. I was having the same problem, but I was hitting the Home button accidentally.
It happens because the spacebar is right above the Home Key. You will need to adjust the way you type to prevent your fingers from pressing the Home key rather than the space button.
Actually, that's not the case at all. I've spammed typing various letters and it reproduces the crash. I don't have to be anywhere near the spacebar/home softkey for this to occur. This also doesn't explain why the numbered layout won't stay in numbered layout (will always switched to lettered mode after two numbers are typed).
I think if it were that easy of a mistake, it would be replicated everywhere, but it only occurs when I'm typing in Places or Google Search Widget.
Actually, now that I think of it, I used to get similar errors on my D2, so I stopped using it altogether. It's only just now that I have a layout on my Gnex where it's convenient for me to use, only it doesn't work! lol
Is there a way to hide the on-screen board when using a Bluetooth keyboard?
I'm interested in this also..
It does not work for every app, but you can do the same as you do on you phone or tablet, hold down on the text area for a second and the little spacer will popup, then stop holding on the text area and you can enter text without the keyboard popping up. When I say hold down on the text area I mean to press the left button on your mouse in the text area. Again, It does not work on every app, but it does on most. I probably type 90%-95% of the time on the Fire TV without the keyboard ever popping up by using this method. Btw, when you use this method you have to hit the onscreen button after typing instead of just hitting enter on the keybard or the keyboard will popup. Example, on my browser I can type in the search bar and hit enter and it searches, but in other apps the keyboard will popup if I hit enter after typing so I just got used to clicking the onscreen buttons after typing so the keyboard wouldn't popup.
no solution yet?
why does keyboard appear in case bluetooth keyboard already is connected?
I guess this should not happen when using bluetooth keyboard.
is it because of apps or fire tv itself?
should I ask amazon to fix this?
Null Keyboard - can install but not activate
For those of us with bluetooth keyboards, this Amazon "popup keyboard" snafu is a real nuisance.
On an generic Android TV box, I can install the NULL Keyboard app, go into Settings > Input and change the default to NULL Keyboard. This leaves a small icon at the bottom right of the screen to switch back to a popup keyboard, if necessary.
Amazon prevents users from getting into Settings > input
This is a disservice to the very large number of Fire TV users who use keyboards.
[Guide] [FTV2] Change Keyboard Based on App Using Tasker and Settings.apk
Is anyone else getting an invisible cursor on the default launcher? The cursor appears for me inside all apps, but becomes invisble on the home screen of the default launcher.
I also just realized that the cursor will also disappear if any system menu pops up. Example, if I try to install an apk the first menu pops up and I can use my mouse to click install, but when the next menu pops up that says next/install, the cursor disappears. The cursor does not become disabled, it just becomes invisable, but its kinda useless if you can't see it. I hope this is just a bug and not amazons way of saying they do not want us to use a mouse. Like I said, it still works in apps, but not on the home launcher or system menus.
A lot of people have looked at the thread, but nobody has replied so either I did not explain well enough or nobody is having the same problem. I'll explain again. When I updated to the latest firmware my cursor is now a smaller blue ring, is this normal? Also the cursor no longer appears on the default launcher or any system menus. If I go to home the cursor simply disappears, is this normal on the latest update? My cursor always appeared throughout the OS on past updates. This happens with my USB mice and my bluetooth mouse so its not the mice causing this to happen. The mouse cursor does appear on the home screen if I use wukong, but its a different cursor then the default cursor. Will someone please let me know if their cursor is also invisible on the default launcher after the latest update so I will know if this is normal or if something is wrong?
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A lot of people have looked at the thread, but nobody has replied so either I did not explain well enough or nobody is having the same problem. I'll explain again. When I updated to the latest firmware my cursor is now a smaller blue ring, is this normal? Also the cursor no longer appears on the default launcher or any system menus. If I go to home the cursor simply disappears, is this normal on the latest update? My cursor always appeared throughout the OS on past updates. This happens with my USB mice and my bluetooth mouse so its not the mice causing this to happen. The mouse cursor does appear on the home screen if I use wukong, but its a different cursor then the default cursor. Will someone please let me know if their cursor is also invisible on the default launcher after the latest update so I will know if this is normal or if something is wrong?
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It disappears for me too, using a K400 for mouse duties.
porkenhimer said:
A lot of people have looked at the thread, but nobody has replied so either I did not explain well enough or nobody is having the same problem. I'll explain again. When I updated to the latest firmware my cursor is now a smaller blue ring, is this normal? Also the cursor no longer appears on the default launcher or any system menus. If I go to home the cursor simply disappears, is this normal on the latest update? My cursor always appeared throughout the OS on past updates. This happens with my USB mice and my bluetooth mouse so its not the mice causing this to happen. The mouse cursor does appear on the home screen if I use wukong, but its a different cursor then the default cursor. Will someone please let me know if their cursor is also invisible on the default launcher after the latest update so I will know if this is normal or if something is wrong?
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Well I tried it with k400 and yes the cursors changed to blue inside screen I was currently on (Netflix) But its not appearing on homescreen. You say invisible but I can't seem to get anything to click there. But, in fairness, I hadn't used the k400 much up to this point.
Anyways, you're not the only one experiencing this.
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Well I tried it with k400 and yes the cursors changed to blue inside screen I was currently on (Netflix) But its not appearing on homescreen. You say invisible but I can't seem to get anything to click there. But, in fairness, I hadn't used the k400 much up to this point.
Anyways, you're not the only one experiencing this.
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I say invisible, cause the mouse is still functioning even thought you cannot see it. I have the app store apk instlled so all of my apps are on the home screen and I can still click on them with the mouse, but its pointless to open apps not knowing which app you are clicking on. I also have Dock4Droid installed and can activate it by using the mouse even though the cursor cannot be seen, so its clear the cursor is becoming invisible for some reason. I am sure this can be fixed on rooted devices, but I am not rooted. There are other devices where the manufacture has made the cursor invisible on certain parts of the OS. Now that I know its happening to others I am inclined to think Amazon has done this to force people to use the remote. If it still happens after the next update then it will be clear that amazon doesn't want us to use a mouse to click on system menus and wants us to use the remote instead. Its kinda weird that they would add support for bluetooth devices like mice, but take away the ability to use a mouse on system menus, but maybe that was the reason they didn't have support for bluetooth devices in the past. Hopefully its just a bug. Not being able to use a mouse throughout the OS has ruined the experience for me since the last update.
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I say invisible, cause the mouse is still functioning even thought you cannot see it. I have the app store apk instlled so all of my apps are on the home screen and I can still click on them with the mouse, but its pointless to open apps not knowing which app you are clicking on. I also have Dock4Droid installed and can activate it by using the mouse even though the cursor cannot be seen, so its clear the cursor is becoming invisible for some reason. I am sure this can be fixed on rooted devices, but I am not rooted. There are other devices where the manufacture has made the cursor invisible on certain parts of the OS. Now that I know its happening to others I am inclined to think Amazon has done this to force people to use the remote. If it still happens after the next update then it will be clear that amazon doesn't want us to use a mouse to click on system menus and wants us to use the remote instead. Its kinda weird that they would add support for bluetooth devices like mice, but take away the ability to use a mouse on system menus, but maybe that was the reason they didn't have support for bluetooth devices in the past. Hopefully its just a bug. Not being able to use a mouse throughout the OS has ruined the experience for me since the last update.
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yes. Im pretty ticked off if this isnt a bug. Just purchased a keyboard/mousepad specifically for aftv. I might contact them. Theres nothing nefarious about keyboards, but whenever i contact them i get the feeling the rep has no clue.
More i think about it...i doubt its intentional. This was a big update.
KLit75 said:
yes. Im pretty ticked off if this isnt a bug. Just purchased a keyboard/mousepad specifically for aftv. I might contact them. Theres nothing nefarious about keyboards, but whenever i contact them i get the feeling the rep has no clue.
More i think about it...i doubt its intentional. This was a big update.
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I think its intentional, cause I remember this happening on other devices and people having to edit a file to get the cursor to appear on certain part of the OS. It makes sense for them to hide the cursor now that they have given us the use of bluetooth mice etc. Its kind of like they are telling us that we need to use the remote that they supplied with their device. It sucks because installing apks basically has to be done with the remote now, cause as soon as the next/install menu pops up the cursor disappears making it hard to know where to click install. Now I have to pickup my remote everytime I install an app. Also with Dock4Droid I was always able to force close apps from anywhere, but now as soon as the app info menu pops up the cursor disappears, which is crazy, cause if you click the wrong spot you could accidentally uninstall an app. The new update is nice, and I have noticed a slight upgrade that is actually good that I have not heard anyone mention, they made the navigation sounds louder on the home screen. I like that and I like the other upgrades, but the cursor becoming invisible is irking the hell out of me. Now I know why the invisible cursor made everyone mad on other devices. At least the mouse still works just does not appear on any system menus or default launcher. I have a feeling that this problem is here to stay unless someone fixes it for rooted devices. It wouldn't be that big of a problem if we could enable seeing touches, but there is no option for that in the developer options like there is on normal android devices. I am very surprised that nobody else has mentioned this, cause I have a feeling that if enough people do not complain about it then nothing will be done to change it. I want my cursor back on every section of the OS, not just inside apps. I rarely used my remote before, but now I have to use it, which I do not like.
Just updated to the 51.1.5.0_user_515030720 firmware and the cursor is still invisible on the Fire TV Lancher and on system menus. Was hoping it was just a bug, but now I am sure its not a bug and Amazon does not think our cursors should be visible on their launcher or their menus.
OK here is what I got going on.
I am on a rooted fire TV stick and have installed the ime of the leanback keyboard. I have enabled it and am using it fine.
I also using mouse toggle for firetv.
I wanted to go with the leanback keyboard because the stock keyboard darks out the screen so it makes it very annoying when working in terminal or on a web browser like dolphin. Soi have accomplished that but
I want to create a task so that when the keyboard pops up, mouse toggle will toggle off.
The reason for this you ask?
In a web browser for example... Say u click the address bar while mouse toggle is on.. You do this so u can type the web address... But mouse toggle stays on and keyboard pops up so u have to pres play twice and hold briefly on second press, in order to disable the mouse, so u can navigate the keyboard.
If I could task it so that mouse toggle will toggle off on keyboard opening... It would be amazing.
I'm pretty good with these things usually but my issue here is toggling mouse toggle.. As its engaged with the play button on the remote..
That and what to put in for it to watch keyboard popping up.
Any help appreciated