[Q] lte vs wifi only - Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Im leaning towards the 8.4 version, since i think the 10.5 and 8.4 all have the same processors. Im trying to decide between lte and wifi only based on two factors : performance and lte usability.
i did some research but i cant seem to find a consensus on which processor is better, the wifi only exynos or the lte qualcomm.
I have at&t and i get free hotspot on my phone. I also have a big discount so an lte tablet would only be 5 dollars a month on my plan, but of course the lte tablet costs more. Will there be an internet speed performance difference in using a tablet with built in lte vs just using wifi off of my samsung note edge? I know lte gets up to 50mbps, so what quality connection do i get on wifi when using an lte smartphone as my source? Would both connections give me identical lte performance? Im just trying to figure out if there is a point at all in paying those 5 dollars a month.
thanks all for your help.

Well I do know that WiFi on the tab s can pick up WiFi signals that are very far. I have the wifi T800 and sometimes use my computer hotspot and it works fine. I haven't tryed it on a phone though but I have not seen any speed differences on my network and its always a steady 2mbps ( how fast my WiFi is lol). The exynos chipset on the WiFi tab s lags here and there but not much. I haven't seem much snapdragon or anything else but that might be better then exynos.
To answer your questions and make things easy here.
As from my experience there's no speed performance difference in using a tablet with late or WiFi coming from an hotspot. So what ever speed is putting out is mostly the same with the tab s.
Depending on lte speeds, it may be slow or fast depending on where you go. But 10 Mbps should be fine if the speeds are somewhat slow. But idk if your plan is unlimited data, so using hotspots will use a lot of data when using a hotspot.
You can try the WiFi one first and maybe (not sure) if of doesn't work out for you.
All the best!

my plan isnt unlimited. Are you saying that the tablet will use more data out of my plan while piggybacking off of a hotspot than having its own lte connection?

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my plan isnt unlimited. Are you saying that the tablet will use more data out of my plan while piggybacking off of a hotspot than having its own lte connection?
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From my guess, I think hotspots will use more data since a device is connected and the phone is feeding out internet/WiFi to the tab s with it being connected. From what I heard hotspots use more data vs an lte itself. That's my best guess and hope this helps! How much data does 5 bucks a month get you?

^^^^ hes correct. Hotspots or any kind of tethering use a ton of data. More so then LTE. Without a unlimited plan I wouldn't recommend it as your going to hit your data cap quite fast.

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Coming from T-Mobile G2x

I'm switching plans from T-Mobile in hopes that Sprints unlimited data will be able to serve as a home internet out in the middle of no where. Knightsen, CA if you have to ask.
With the 5GB of data not being enough and I can hit that in a matter of a few days of my average data use. Let alone I have the $30.00 prepaid plan now that gives me 100 minutes, unlimited text and data(lies imo).
I just would like a few questions answered before I finally make the switch:
Is this phone easy to root? Super One click?
Roms doing well? I'm using EaglesBlood with Faux123 kernal with the messed up battery readings that are driving me nuts sometimes but get alot of hard use out the phone.
I somewhat use the HDMI mirroring but the phone will go to my wife. Will I have any issues with the screen vs the G2x having some LCD bleeding?
All in all I just want this phone for unlimited calling now for work, unlimited data from home and just want a cheap phone with a low plan.
I was reading about having to pay for a hotspot plan but would I just need to root the phone to be able to turn it into a hotspot for free? Or would I have to use a app like this: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.USB&hl=en
if you pay for the hotspot your data is not unlimited. That is all I am going to tell you. The rest of the information you are looking for is here for you to read.
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Paid hotspot is not unlimited, however the hacked hotspot that comes in many roms and mods is.
Easy enough to root, run the one-click-root and you're set.
Can't really comment on battery life/screen quality, as I've never seen the T-Mo variant to compare it to, but based on my own usage, there's no screen bleeding and the battery life is excellent, especially when compared to another 4G device
As a home internet connection do some investigation about sprint data speeds in your area. Most places aren't sufficient enough lol
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As a home internet connection do some investigation about sprint data speeds in your area. Most places aren't sufficient enough lol
Tmobiles is faster regardless if your covered.
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I live in San Jose, a few hours away from OP. There is pretty good 4G coverage here, which I tend to depend on since 3G is VERY slow.
I made the switch from T-Mo to Sprint the day the Epic Touch was released and be prepared for slow data speeds. On my Samsung Vibrant, I was averaging ~330KBps down on 3G (not even HSPA+ that they now have available), with Sprint I get about 50KBps down with 3G..
4G wimax speeds are much better (tops out at a 1MB/s down for me, ~400KBps near my house) BUT coverage is spotty and possibly non-existent where you live OP. Not to mention that due to the frequency of wimax, it doesn't penetrate buildings very well so I tend to get the best 4G signal outdoors.. I would seriously contemplate sticking with T-Mo for the time being. There is no guarantee that unlimited data will stick around when Sprint upgrades to LTE this year BUT Sprint 3G speeds should improve drastically from what I've read. I just wanted to give you a heads up before making the switch, good luck!
This phone is pretty easy to root. Method I recommend is sfhub's auto root script to obtain root and install cwm recovery (see 2 videos below). Once you follow both videos you have full root and CWM but a stock kernel and rom... with the ability to flash any ROM/kernel currently available if you wish to change.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be2evusAwOM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZRnH-_XZmM
I would highly recommend checking coverage for your areas before making the change just to make sure you will have decent service in your area.
Phone is awesome, and so are our developers.
I switched from the g2x, myself, but I was very happy with the g2x -- just hated tmo and their bs policy about throttling (I agree with the idea of throttling, just not to 8kbs speeds!).
The E4GT is an excellent phone that you'll love. I, too, use it for home internet, and where I am, my coverage is acceptable. I get about 4mbps download, maybe 300kbps upload, but there's only one spot in my house that gets reliable 4g reception. Please note that there's a hack available to allow your phone to get better 4g reception, and you'll definitely want to do that if your area's coverage is spotty: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265990.
Best of luck, and enjoy your new phone!
To cds0699 and Erislover I would like to thank so much for the posted info. I'll look into those 3 things before and after I get the phone.
As for the spotty coverage I think I should be ok as there is a data tower about 2 miles away. http://maps.google.com/ mapped it out
Even if I only get 3g and its not as fast as my t-mobile I am still only getting about 500kbps.... which is so horrid it takes for ever to even download some few MB apps.
After the issues of using the phone for internet and even if it was the same speed as my T-Mobile I would still want unlimited minutes + true unlimited data when I'm running around at work.
Plus I can get the E4GT for $80.00 that is a steal!!!
Awesome, sounds like you've done your research
One last thing I can think of is that the micro usb port on the bottom is an MHL port. What that means is you can get an MHL adapter (I think they're like $10-$15) and use that with an hdmi cable for hdmi out. I haven't personally used this because that's not something I would use, but I have heard of others doing it without a problem.

y does every1 use wifi

y is every1 on wifi everytime i see screen shots ppl have there phones on wifi...u have 4g! my 4g tends to be faster then wifi lol ...do ppl use it just to conserve battery or is there another reason behind it that i dont no about
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y is every1 on wifi everytime i see screen shots ppl have there phones on wifi...u have 4g! my 4g tends to be faster then wifi lol ...do ppl use it just to conserve battery or is there another reason behind it that i dont no about
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I use wifi on my laptop... because its connected to my phone... via wifi hotspot
But yeah, I never turn on wifi and I have 0 use for wifi calling.
I don't know about you, but my Wifi at home is on a 110mbit cable modem. Beat that with your "4G" HSPA+
Wifi also uses less battery, and anything you do on wifi doesn't chew up your monthly Gigabyte allowance.
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I don't know about you, but my Wifi at home is on a 110mbit cable modem. Beat that with your "4G" HSPA+
Wifi also uses less battery, and anything you do on wifi doesn't chew up your monthly Gigabyte allowance.
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i dont have a monthly gig i have unlm. so im good money...idk my wifi is mad slow but even so...im not home all that much ...idk i guess its a personal preff
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i dont have a monthly gig i have unlm. so im good money...idk my wifi is mad slow but even so...im not home all that much ...idk i guess its a personal preff
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hahaha! you really think your unlimited. your probably capped a 5 gb once you go over its throttle time
raduque said:
I don't know about you, but my Wifi at home is on a 110mbit cable modem. Beat that with your "4G" HSPA+
Wifi also uses less battery, and anything you do on wifi doesn't chew up your monthly Gigabyte allowance.
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That is true, i use it like that but if im on the bed or something at home. So i dont use up my 5gb, i use it real quick. Plus if people are at home why not use a laptop
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wifi is free
mightymike889 said:
y is every1 on wifi everytime i see screen shots ppl have there phones on wifi...u have 4g! my 4g tends to be faster then wifi lol ...do ppl use it just to conserve battery or is there another reason behind it that i dont no about
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your wifi is slow not because of the fact that youre on wifi, but because your own ISP's provisioned line is slow - thus, you have a slow internet package with your provider, either that or your having intermitten speed issues with the line. and there is no "100%" unlimited data on 4g/hspa+, max is 5gbs then youre throttled to be on edge. but really, i have the 2gb on 4G package and i can barely use a gig on a monthly basis from usual web browsing. i guess i shall start streaming some movies on the phone..
mightymike889 said:
y is every1 on wifi everytime i see screen shots ppl have there phones on wifi...u have 4g! my 4g tends to be faster then wifi lol ...do ppl use it just to conserve battery or is there another reason behind it that i dont no about
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Most of the time I'm at college and wifi is free so why not use it? Besides here the max down is 3mbs and wifi is 10. At home we don't have a dedicated internet connection so I tether to all my devices there.
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My Wifi is faster than my data.
Wifi is faster than my data. I dont want to get throttled because of how much data i use. Data uses more vattery because its onstantly searching and switching from hspa+, gms ,etc.
Message relayed from the dark side.
My wifi is faster than 4g. Also, my block has terrible service (previously had Verizon, it was horrible, my neighbors have sprint, it sucks too), so I use wifi calling because my wifi signal strength acts as my signal, so I get all calls, texts & don't drop calls.
the white unicorn.
It's typically better to use WiFi whenever it's available at your leisure.
Because when i play modern combat 3 online it requires wifi
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- wifi uses less battery
- its free.. doesnt use up my monthly 5gb so i dont get throttled
- ground level apartment doesnt get good service ..sometimes no service.. so wifi + wifi calling is almost necessary
- wifi is faster than 4g (unless you have crappy internet like OP must have)
- Having my phone on the same wifi network as my Samsung TV ( with built in wireless ) allows me to use my phone as a remote control for the TV and also i can send pictures , music, videos , whatever from my phone wirelessly to my tv
When did wifi become free? Am I missing something here? If your at home and your using a wireless router to use the wifi off, then is it really free. I can understand being out and using it but at home your paying your ISP and tmobile. I agree data speeds at home are usually faster but I get 12 and sometimes 16mb at home on tmobile. Currently tethering on my plan and it beat my ESP in downloads. Keep in mind my old plan with Comcast was 12mb and my most recent was only 1-1.5mb.
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your wifi is slow not because of the fact that youre on wifi, but because your own ISP's provisioned line is slow - thus, you have a slow internet package with your provider, either that or your having intermitten speed issues with the line. and there is no "100%" unlimited data on 4g/hspa+, max is 5gbs then youre throttled to be on edge. but really, i have the 2gb on 4G package and i can barely use a gig on a monthly basis from usual web browsing. i guess i shall start streaming some movies on the phone..
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actually Tmobile has a10gb package for the extreme users..at the end of my Billing cycle Im usually at 4.5GB of use so I downgraded from the 10 GB package. I have average download speeds of 13mb and 4mb up with this phone way better then the 3 down and.50 up my sensation got in the same place.
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I use wifi when available. Doesn't count against my data plan and my home internet is much faster then my home 4g data connection.
Why would anyone use 4g when wifi and a fast internet connection is available?
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When did wifi become free? Am I missing something here? If your at home and your using a wireless router to use the wifi off, then is it really free. I can understand being out and using it but at home your paying your ISP and tmobile. I agree data speeds at home are usually faster but I get 12 and sometimes 16mb at home on tmobile. Currently tethering on my plan and it beat my ESP in downloads. Keep in mind my old plan with Comcast was 12mb and my most recent was only 1-1.5mb.
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Yes , it's free. I have a fast internet connection for my home network and it doesn't cost me any more to use wifi for my phone and tablet. I'm paying for the internet connection any way so why not take advantage?
i use wifi every chance i get! more stable and saves more energy.
Really OP? I get 20mb down at home and 15+ when at bdubs or starbucks or any similar place. It's 2012 man, who doesn't love free interwebs without eating at our data plans?

Does anybody here use AT&T or Straighttalk on there T989 ?

Hello
as far as I know this phone can handle the att 3g/4g frequencies if unlocked ..
Does your straigttalk SIM(the att compatabile one) or true att SIM work well with it if anybody is using them ?
What about data speeds ?
Thanks
Please no 2 words answers
Thanks again
me.. me .. i do.. i do lol
Hello. I have great news for anyone that wants to use the Tmobile GalaxySII with a better prepaid service.
I bought the T989 new and then bought a Tmobile Sim card for about $15 from StraightTalk.com
I put the new sim in and changed the APN to StraightTalk apn. It works fabulous.
I get full 4g speeds all day 24/7 and the best thing is I get no throttle.
Tmobile turned me on with there prices but I didnt notice that they throttle there bandwidth to a stupid slow 2g speed after a certain bandwidth usage.
WHY would any company throttle the internet speed with the purpose to have a smart phone is fast internet? The speed went from 4g to 2g. Not 3g. We are talking 56k modem speed. This pissed me off so bad, I went with StraightTalk just 2 weeks after I activated the T989 with Tbobile using there prepaid. Well, not only is Tmobile prepaid $5 more than the StraightTalk service, But the Tmobile service, as I said is very inferior to StraightTalk.
No Im not a representative of either of these companies.
I did allot of research about using this phone with any sim I wanted and compared price vs performance of what I get for the money.
I can tell you that you will not find any prepaid service cheaper and with unlimited everything when using with the T989.
Ive compared ATT, Verizon, Virgin, Boost, Net10. All of um I could find. None were cheaper and none offered so much. I ended up sticking with Tmobile service cause of the speed they use vs ATT. I couldnt even use the phone with other services due to the technology they offered. Some services are not compatible with this particular Gs2 model. I suggest you use it with Tmobile towers to get the full performance of the internet. Tmobile uses a specific technology to get full internet speeds, which I think is better than ATT. .
I really wanted to stay with Tmobile, but I gotta tell ya, they sucked. MANY people complain about getting just edge speed when using the Tmobile prepaid service. No kidding! Its cause they purposely throttle the speed! Look at teh small print on there advertisements! They have a few different so called unlimited plans. The price goes stupid high to like $70 just to get full bandwidth speeds to decent usage. With StraightTalk its always full bandwidth and the kicker is that they use Tmobile towers! They dont throttle the speed at all. I dont get anything lower than 9mb down and 3.5 to 4 gb up.
Its $45 a month.Vs anywhere from 50 to $70 depending on the useage for internet you want.
Why did I choose this phone vs other cool phones ?
Well.
THIS phone , when properly setup with apps or a certain rom, can tether wirelessly to your laptop with NO additional tether charges ( which Tmobile charges I think $15 extra ). SO if you are in an area where you have no wifi and need to use your laptop for internet, do what I do. use the GS2 at a wireless router and get very fast internet speeds! Its no extra charge and a quick solution to no wifi.
Just remember to use the FOXFI appto do this no extra charge tethering. No special rom or hacks needed.
Check my other thread about the roms Ive used.
nickcaper said:
Hello. I have great news for anyone that wants to use the Tmobile GalaxySII with a better prepaid service.
I bought the T989 new and then bought a Tmobile Sim card for about $15 from StraightTalk.com
I put the new sim in and changed the APN to StraightTalk apn. It works fabulous.
I get full 4g speeds all day 24/7 and the best thing is I get no throttle.
Tmobile turned me on with there prices but I didnt notice that they throttle there bandwidth to a stupid slow 2g speed after a certain bandwidth usage.
WHY would any company throttle the internet speed with the purpose to have a smart phone is fast internet? The speed went from 4g to 2g. Not 3g. We are talking 56k modem speed. This pissed me off so bad, I went with StraightTalk just 2 weeks after I activated the T989 with Tbobile using there prepaid. Well, not only is Tmobile prepaid $5 more than the StraightTalk service, But the Tmobile service, as I said is very inferior to StraightTalk.
No Im not a representative of either of these companies.
I did allot of research about using this phone with any sim I wanted and compared price vs performance of what I get for the money.
I can tell you that you will not find any prepaid service cheaper and with unlimited everything when using with the T989.
Ive compared ATT, Verizon, Virgin, Boost, Net10. All of um I could find. None were cheaper and none offered so much. I ended up sticking with Tmobile service cause of the speed they use vs ATT. I couldnt even use the phone with other services due to the technology they offered. Some services are not compatible with this particular Gs2 model. I suggest you use it with Tmobile towers to get the full performance of the internet. Tmobile uses a specific technology to get full internet speeds, which I think is better than ATT. .
I really wanted to stay with Tmobile, but I gotta tell ya, they sucked. MANY people complain about getting just edge speed when using the Tmobile prepaid service. No kidding! Its cause they purposely throttle the speed! Look at teh small print on there advertisements! They have a few different so called unlimited plans. The price goes stupid high to like $70 just to get full bandwidth speeds to decent usage. With StraightTalk its always full bandwidth and the kicker is that they use Tmobile towers! They dont throttle the speed at all. I dont get anything lower than 9mb down and 3.5 to 4 gb up.
Its $45 a month.Vs anywhere from 50 to $70 depending on the useage for internet you want.
Why did I choose this phone vs other cool phones ?
Well.
THIS phone , when properly setup with apps or a certain rom, can tether wirelessly to your laptop with NO additional tether charges ( which Tmobile charges I think $15 extra ). SO if you are in an area where you have no wifi and need to use your laptop for internet, do what I do. use the GS2 at a wireless router and get very fast internet speeds! Its no extra charge and a quick solution to no wifi.
Just remember to use the FOXFI appto do this no extra charge tethering. No special rom or hacks needed.
Check my other thread about the roms Ive used.
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are u sure u get 4g ? on they website only say 3g
Is it possible to use the straighttalk via At and T? I have a tmobile phone but it has been blocked on their network (bought from craigslist) . I was wondering if it can be salvaged and used on at and t.
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Is it possible to use the straighttalk via At and T? I have a tmobile phone but it has been blocked on their network (bought from craigslist) . I was wondering if it can be salvaged and used on at and t.
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does it have the proper at&t bands or an at&t radio from the equivalent phone ...
if so you choose at&t compatible when you get the sim/apn from their website
Yeah, say that to your account getting terminated next week. Congratulations.
StraightTalk has a cap of 2GBS!!!! it depends on your luck, but if u get more than 4GBS, you will be suspended in the upcoming days.. T-mobile's monthly4g plans are the only way to get 5GBs for only $30.....
Have fun getting terminated.
There's a big thread about this in the galaxy nexus forums. I own both devices so I hop back & forth between the 2. It is common knowledge that straight talk does not publish their data cap, but rather they kick you off the network. Streaming more than a couple of YouTube videos/day violates their terms of service. This being said, if straight talk is working out for you, good for you. It is a much cheaper alternative. Also, you mention a $5 more T-Mobile plan.... you do realize that the $50 tmo plan includes only 100mb at 4g speeds & then throttling... tmo does offer $60 unlimited talk/text & 2gb of 4g data...
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I've got t mobile's $30 with 5GB & a bunch of texts, enough for Mr anyway, but only 100 minutes. But I don't talk much
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I got T-Mobile 5g for $20 on android prefered plan. I thought 5g was $25.
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Couldn't find it. What are the details?
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I just called they don't do it anymore.
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Oh that sucks. Np tho, I still have 5gb for $30, which you can't get anywhere else.
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Look folks. Seriosuly. All this crap about Tmobile being better is bull****.
I know first hand cause I tried Tmobile with the GS2 then used it with Straight talk.
I still have it on Straighttalk. I installed a data counter. I can see the data I use on 4g vs wifi. I keep the useage down on the phone. I use about 2g a month. Wifi is much more. BUT the speeds is what is most important. Lets do a comparison.
Tmobile 50$ plan gets you *First 100MB at up to 4G speeds then goes to 2 g. There 60$ pan gets you ***First 2GB at up to 4G speeds. This plan is the same data you will get using StraightTalk but $15 more. And for 70$ with Tmobile you get ****First 5GB at up to 4G speeds. WHich is 25$ more and I must say when yoiu are on a budget it does make a difference. Now, I have done several speed tests and compaed my results to 4g and 3G. Then I compared it to my Wifi. Here are the results. My Wifi results show I get 20mb down and 2mb up. This is pretty accurate for what I pay for with my home internet. using just the phone and not wifi I get 4.5mb down and 1.7mb up. I use the speed.net Android app. Just do a search for speed test in android market. It looks like a big speedometer. I get no throttles. And Actually sometimes I get faster speeds on my cell 4g. Ive gotten upto 9mbs! No joke. Most people are getting at most around 2.1mb down on 4g networks. If youre lucky you will get really high 20mb down. WHat people dont understand is that Tmobile has a special channel they use for there data that provides better speeds. Called HSPA+ where at ATT and Verizon use LTE which they claim is faster but no sorry it aint. Do youtube searches and you can see for yourself. So if you use a Tmobile phone on any other network, you wont get the fastest speeds possible. Sure Tmobile and ATT use the same network but NOT the same channels ( frequencies ) So What I did was I choose to get a Tmobile sim card to use the HSPA+ channel. That enables my phone to work at full network speeds. Problem with Tmobile prepaid vs StraightTalk is that Tmobile throttles. SO lets say I get just 3g speeds like some of you keep saying. Well its still a whole lot better than 2g with Tmobile ( look at the price and data useage on Tmobiles cheapest plan ) For example. Lets say we use at most 2g monthly data. Tmobile will cost you $15 more for the same speed and data amount that Straight Talk offers. So WHY use Tmobile? Go check out this video youtu.be/7IBCtS0jmag
I wouldnt bull**** you . I got the phone in my hand and know what Im talking about. BTW I had a Nokia E71 and used it with StraightTalk and always got HsPa speeds which is way up there past 3G. The phone wasnt 4G capable but It would show 3.5G on the screen. The vid I just asked you to watch explains all the speeds. I am infact getting 4 G with StraighTalk.
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Yeah, say that to your account getting terminated next week. Congratulations.
StraightTalk has a cap of 2GBS!!!! it depends on your luck, but if u get more than 4GBS, you will be suspended in the upcoming days.. T-mobile's monthly4g plans are the only way to get 5GBs for only $30.....
Have fun getting terminated.
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Dude you got a bad attitude. Im telling you all this for YOUR benefit.
I been having this phone now for 3 months. No problems at all.
Before this phone I had a Nokia E71 using the ATT sim and got 3.5G speeds. All this crap about only getting 3G is hearsay. Hey if you wanna whine and complain do it in the mirror. I know what Im getting.
You may get something different depending on your area. All I know is that the straighTalk plan is cheaper.
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does it have the proper at&t bands or an at&t radio from the equivalent phone ...
if so you choose at&t compatible when you get the sim/apn from their website
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i double checked it does have the proper at&t bands and radio. Tmobile galaxy s2 with att sim should be able to get 3g speeds. My biggest question is, does tmobile and ATT share blacklist. If they do this means phone will be blacklisted even after unlocked. If not then phone will be able to be used with ATT sim
oh brother
nickcaper said:
Look folks. Seriosuly. All this crap about Tmobile being better is bull****.
I know first hand cause I tried Tmobile with the GS2 then used it with Straight talk.
I still have it on Straighttalk. I installed a data counter. I can see the data I use on 4g vs wifi. I keep the useage down on the phone. I use about 2g a month. Wifi is much more. BUT the speeds is what is most important. Lets do a comparison.
Tmobile 50$ plan gets you *First 100MB at up to 4G speeds then goes to 2 g. There 60$ pan gets you ***First 2GB at up to 4G speeds. This plan is the same data you will get using StraightTalk but $15 more. And for 70$ with Tmobile you get ****First 5GB at up to 4G speeds. WHich is 25$ more and I must say when yoiu are on a budget it does make a difference. Now, I have done several speed tests and compaed my results to 4g and 3G. Then I compared it to my Wifi. Here are the results. My Wifi results show I get 20mb down and 2mb up. This is pretty accurate for what I pay for with my home internet. using just the phone and not wifi I get 4.5mb down and 1.7mb up. I use the speed.net Android app. Just do a search for speed test in android market. It looks like a big speedometer. I get no throttles. And Actually sometimes I get faster speeds on my cell 4g. Ive gotten upto 9mbs! No joke. Most people are getting at most around 2.1mb down on 4g networks. If youre lucky you will get really high 20mb down. WHat people dont understand is that Tmobile has a special channel they use for there data that provides better speeds. Called HSPA+ where at ATT and Verizon use LTE which they claim is faster but no sorry it aint. Do youtube searches and you can see for yourself. So if you use a Tmobile phone on any other network, you wont get the fastest speeds possible. Sure Tmobile and ATT use the same network but NOT the same channels ( frequencies ) So What I did was I choose to get a Tmobile sim card to use the HSPA+ channel. That enables my phone to work at full network speeds. Problem with Tmobile prepaid vs StraightTalk is that Tmobile throttles. SO lets say I get just 3g speeds like some of you keep saying. Well its still a whole lot better than 2g with Tmobile ( look at the price and data useage on Tmobiles cheapest plan ) For example. Lets say we use at most 2g monthly data. Tmobile will cost you $15 more for the same speed and data amount that Straight Talk offers. So WHY use Tmobile? Go check out this video youtu.be/7IBCtS0jmag
I wouldnt bull**** you . I got the phone in my hand and know what Im talking about. BTW I had a Nokia E71 and used it with StraightTalk and always got HsPa speeds which is way up there past 3G. The phone wasnt 4G capable but It would show 3.5G on the screen. The vid I just asked you to watch explains all the speeds. I am infact getting 4 G with StraighTalk.
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Dude you got a bad attitude. Im telling you all this for YOUR benefit.
I been having this phone now for 3 months. No problems at all.
Before this phone I had a Nokia E71 using the ATT sim and got 3.5G speeds. All this crap about only getting 3G is hearsay. Hey if you wanna whine and complain do it in the mirror. I know what Im getting.
You may get something different depending on your area. All I know is that the straighTalk plan is cheaper.
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jeez.i had a nokia e71 on straight talk a couple of years ago,the speed was fair,but it isn't even capable of hspa.
i went over the data limit one month,i got no warning,no throttle.
at the end of the month my account was banned.
i am on month 8 of tmobile's 5 gb 100 minute plan.i recommend it highly.
in fact i added a second account i like it so well.
i make calls over wifi using bobsled calling,does not count against your minutes,and has good sound quality.that has been my experience,i'll refrain from any disparaging comments.
I am on ATT with Unlimited $30 iPhone plan. My main is iPhone 4S yet I just love my T989 and sometimes I switch. Here is what I can say about data. IT is fast and it's 100% not EDGE yet I think for some reason it's not as fast as my 4S (data wise) If needed I can provide speedtest.net test results from same location with 4S and T989 and you'll see that T989 is slightly slower, I'd say I'll get solid 250KB/sec download and about 100KB/sec upload with T989 and about 340/150 with iPhone. Also in Games like Order and Chaos I see iPhone performs a bit better latency wise (now that kinda make no sense but oh well) So here is my 2 cents
wilson pickett said:
jeez.i had a nokia e71 on straight talk a couple of years ago,the speed was fair,but it isn't even capable of hspa.
i went over the data limit one month,i got no warning,no throttle.
at the end of the month my account was banned.
i am on month 8 of tmobile's 5 gb 100 minute plan.i recommend it highly.
in fact i added a second account i like it so well.
i make calls over wifi using bobsled calling,does not count against your minutes,and has good sound quality.that has been my experience,i'll refrain from any disparaging comments.
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100 minutes might be fine if you sit at home all day with a wifi connection but what about people on the go?
So far i havent been banned or blacklisted.
Ive tried the Tmobile service and its great but again, the throttle is what sux. WHY do they even bother doin that? Im sick of the greedy things these companies do to make money. Its suppose to be unlimited BUt, And you have a smart phone but cant fully use it unless..... its always some bull****.
As for Nokia, yea I got 3.5g all the time. Said it right there on the phone.
BTW. I cant wifi on the T989 cause I dont use Tmobile. Only Tmobile service enables wifi calling.
All they gotta do is take that throttle bull**** off and Ill go with them.
If Straight talk can do it and do it cheaper then why cant Tmobile do it?
There loss.
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I am on ATT with Unlimited $30 iPhone plan. My main is iPhone 4S yet I just love my T989 and sometimes I switch. Here is what I can say about data. IT is fast and it's 100% not EDGE yet I think for some reason it's not as fast as my 4S (data wise) If needed I can provide speedtest.net test results from same location with 4S and T989 and you'll see that T989 is slightly slower, I'd say I'll get solid 250KB/sec download and about 100KB/sec upload with T989 and about 340/150 with iPhone. Also in Games like Order and Chaos I see iPhone performs a bit better latency wise (now that kinda make no sense but oh well) So here is my 2 cents
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Man that is some really slow speeds.
Rememeber, the T989 s meant to work with HSPA+ not LTE.
Using the T989 on anything other than Tmobile may yield slower speeds that you would usually get. The phone works with totally different frequency channels. Although you will get data it wont be as fast. The data frequency on the T989 is not compatible with the ATT data frequency. They arent the same. So people get slow speeds when using the T989 on ATT service. Tmobile uses 1900mhz for HSPA+ which is 4G. The 1900Mhz channel ATT uses only gives HSPA not HSPA+. HSPA is just 3G. In 2013 Tmobile will start using the 1700/2100mhz channels for LTE but your T989 will still only be setup for 1900Mhz HSPA+. ATT uses 1700/2100mhz channels for 4g. As you can see these 2 companies uses different channels to get 4g speeds.
So again, if you have a T989 Always always use a Tmobile sim card with StraighTalk or use Tmobile as your service. If you dont, the phone will not receive proper 1900Mhz data frequencies and wont get high internet speeds.
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I used to own a G2X for the tomobile network and now I have a galaxy s2, but the thing I remember going on in the g2x forums was that there was a hack to make it so that your phone wouldn't get throttled if you went over the cap limit on tmobiles network. I don't know if such a thing exists for our gs2 but if it doesn't might not hurt to ask the dev guys for help on this being a possibiltu for our phones.
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100 minutes might be fine if you sit at home all day with a wifi connection but what about people on the go?
So far i havent been banned or blacklisted.
Ive tried the Tmobile service and its great but again, the throttle is what sux. WHY do they even bother doin that? Im sick of the greedy things these companies do to make money. Its suppose to be unlimited BUt, And you have a smart phone but cant fully use it unless..... its always some bull****.
As for Nokia, yea I got 3.5g all the time. Said it right there on the phone.
BTW. I cant wifi on the T989 cause I dont use Tmobile. Only Tmobile service enables wifi calling.
All they gotta do is take that throttle bull**** off and Ill go with them.
If Straight talk can do it and do it cheaper then why cant Tmobile do it?
There loss.
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Man that is some really slow speeds.
Rememeber, the T989 s meant to work with HSPA+ not LTE.
Using the T989 on anything other than Tmobile may yield slower speeds that you would usually get. The phone works with totally different frequency channels. Although you will get data it wont be as fast. The data frequency on the T989 is not compatible with the ATT data frequency. They arent the same. So people get slow speeds when using the T989 on ATT service. Tmobile uses 1900mhz for HSPA+ which is 4G. The 1900Mhz channel ATT uses only gives HSPA not HSPA+. HSPA is just 3G. In 2013 Tmobile will start using the 1700/2100mhz channels for LTE but your T989 will still only be setup for 1900Mhz HSPA+. ATT uses 1700/2100mhz channels for 4g. As you can see these 2 companies uses different channels to get 4g speeds.
So again, if you have a T989 Always always use a Tmobile sim card with StraighTalk or use Tmobile as your service. If you dont, the phone will not receive proper 1900Mhz data frequencies and wont get high internet speeds.
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Well in that case if possible explain this. Let's make this simple. There is EDGE that will give you like 10KB sec at most ....then there is 3G that will give you anything from lower 100kb to as high as 8Mbit / sec ( I get easy 8Mbit/sec on Brighton Beach 11235 ZIP CODE) now T989 is not EDGE it's simply too fast for that and you saying it does not have proper band for ATT 3G ..so what does is works on then ? Because in my understanding T989 by TMobile is ONLY SGS2 phone that support all carriers with 3G speeds. I may be wrong but all I know is this. It works not as good as iPhone on ATT but I can listen radio and make Skype calls with video and watch youtube movies when let's say other Tmobile phones and using edge I can hardly get email going with ATT SIM and forget about any multimedia.
I think you are not fully educated on the cell phone technologies.
Cell phones have the capability to work on all old technologies. Or at least most old technologies. In other words, todays cell phones are backward compatible with Edge and 2G and even 3G. The Galaxy S2 is a 4g phone. NOT just 3G. but can work on 3G as well. It gets 4G by using the HSPA+ carrier. Others use LTE like your Iphone.
You should look at the chart again and made a study of it.
Your Iphone you have is manufactured to work with ATT. It has a special radio in it that is specifically setup to work with ATT 4G LTE which is any of the 3 channels in the chart for ATT. The 3 channels ATT uses to get 4G is 700mhz, 1700 and 2100Mhz. 4g goes way up to around 20+mb download. Your ATT iPhone also works on 3G but ATT's 3g channels are 850 and 1900mhz and use the HSPA carrier. NOT HSPA+ which Tmobile uses to get 4G. But Tmobile does some magic and uses the ATT HSPA channels and turns them into 4G by using HSPA+ !!!!
If you look at the TMobile chart you can see that its VERY beneficial to use there network and phones for 2 reasons. First, If you use Tmobile you will get very fast data speeds which many say is the fastest. Second reason is, that Tmobile uses a totally different set of channels to get that data speed PLUS allows you to use your ATT phone on there channels AND get 4G speeds that ATT would only yield 3G! Ill give you the big picture here. MOSt phones right now, that ATT user have are working in the 850mhz to 1900mhz range. That gives the ATT user a 3G speed and they will see around 2.1mb downloads at best. The really cool thing about Tmobile is that if you take your ATT phone and port it over to Tmobile, that same 1900mhz is now running at 4g speeds due to the HSPA+ technology Tmobile uses. And you didnt even have to do anything !!!
Many people have said that when porting over to Tmobile they get faster speeds. This is why.
The only time ATT will be the same speed as Tmobile is when you have an ATT phone like an Iphone 4 that runs on the LTE network. Of course there are other new phones that use the LTE technology on ATT but for most people right now, they are still using the 3G channels because they bought there phones a year or 2 ago and LTE was not out then.
If You are getting high speeds on your Iphone 4 and not on your GS2 then its due to one reason. Reception. The GS2 cant recieve LTE speeds which on paper says its way faster than Tmobile. As I said it can be upto 20+mb download. Many people dont get that but some do. HSPA+ will get 8mb with a very good signal and that is not a bad download at all. Its very good actually. Soon, in 2013 Tmobile will be upgrading to LTE so dont worry about speed. Tmobile will be way up there with ATT and while ATT still has the Iphone, Android is right there coming out with phones that smoke Iphone. Tmobile offers 4G speeds with 3G channels. Noone else does that. Its cause they want people to port over to there service.
I hope you can understand what Im saying now.

T-Mobile throttle

I switched over from Sprint due to their slow 3G speeds (~500kbps). 4G wimax was available (7-9mbps) but I wanted a phone with a 720 screen and those are limited to just 3G speeds.
Concerned about the 2GB throttle speeds with T-Mobile's data plan, I figured I'd max it out before my next bill in a few days and I'm surprised to say that it isn't so bad... IF you switch to 2G after you're throttled.
Regular "4G" speeds were 3mbps-9mbps, fast enough for me.
Throttled speeds are at 60kbps, nothing more.
But if you switch to 2G/Edge, the speed actually is faster than the throttled speeds at 120-150kbps which is perfectly fine for web browsing.
How are eveyrone else's experience with being throttled?
How do you switch to 2G/Edge?
I'm on the 2GB plan, but rarely do I ever go over, I'm always near WiFi.
You have to go into mobile data settings and check the box that says use 2g only.
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Being throttled is pretty bad. I haven't been throttled in a while, but I remember the speeds being around 30-80 kpbs. T-Mobile claims it's EDGE speeds, but it's still much slower than EDGE.
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I broke my 5GB cap the other day and got throttled. Couldn't stand it so I upgraded plans for this month only. Expensive jump from 5GB to 10GB. I was in between homes and locations this month so no home internet connection. I did a lot of tethering with big downloads this month, etc... I usually don't go over 2GB. But to answer the point, I HATE THROTTLED SPEEDS. Horrible.
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I switched over from Sprint due to their slow 3G speeds (~500kbps). 4G wimax was available (7-9mbps) but I wanted a phone with a 720 screen and those are limited to just 3G speeds.
Concerned about the 2GB throttle speeds with T-Mobile's data plan, I figured I'd max it out before my next bill in a few days and I'm surprised to say that it isn't so bad... IF you switch to 2G after you're throttled.
Regular "4G" speeds were 3mbps-9mbps, fast enough for me.
Throttled speeds are at 60kbps, nothing more.
But if you switch to 2G/Edge, the speed actually is faster than the throttled speeds at 120-150kbps which is perfectly fine for web browsing.
How are eveyrone else's experience with being throttled?
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Everyones experiences should be the exact same, as they hard cap your download speeds to 60kbps once you're "throttled". As you say, switching to EDGE ("2G networks only"), you'll see faster speeds, but higher ping times.
Its really not that bad. As long as you're not trying to stream movies or download large files, EDGE is quite acceptable. If you don't mind waiting for the ping times, web browsing is even acceptably fast imo. You can use apps w/ background data and all push services still as well.
I'll take a full speed + throttle system over a cap + overage system. At least with throttles, you have the option to pay more if you choose.
Can anyone verify if this still works? My family is thinking of switching from AT&T to T-Mobile. None of us have a Galaxy Nexus, but I'm assuming this trick would work on other phones as well. Personally I have an AT&T Galaxy SIII I-747.
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Can anyone verify if this still works? My family is thinking of switching from AT&T to T-Mobile. None of us have a Galaxy Nexus, but I'm assuming this trick would work on other phones as well. Personally I have an AT&T Galaxy SIII I-747.
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it would work, but i dont think your phone has the bands to support tmobile's AWS bands so you wouldnt have 3g/HSPA+

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So my work phone is a full unrestricted plan. Yes I know att doesn't theoretically have unlimited data. But my question is would that sim give me LTE connectivity in my tablet. Or is there a special tablet package that needs to be enabled on the sim that costs more?
TLDR; Can i use my att LTE sim that i use for my cell phone in my Nexus 7 tablet?
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So my work phone is a full unrestricted plan. Yes I know att doesn't theoretically have unlimited data. But my question is would that sim give me LTE connectivity in my tablet. Or is there a special tablet package that needs to be enabled on the sim that costs more?
TLDR; Can i use my att LTE sim that i use for my cell phone in my Nexus 7 tablet?
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Here is how it works in Germany (and I assume that is how it works everywhere).
You have a SIM Card which is on a GPRS Plan (normal data connection) and if you buy a special option for LTE you account will be upgraded and the SIM-Card which was running on GPRS is now able to connect to an LTE Network.
So in essence, you need an special LTE Plan, which cost more money. AND you need to be in an area where LTE is available, otherwise you pay more but the data speed is as slow as without LTE.
And DO NOT BELIEVE that you are getting 100 or more MBit/s, that is the maximum speed for that LTE Channel in the optimum distance.
If there is another LTE User with you on that channel, the speed drops. Last seen here in Munich at the Octoberfest where 30 or more people tried to connect to one particular LTE Access-Point and the system slowed down to a crawl.
On the other hand, if you have an LTE enabled phone/pad, you are getting normally a better speed performance out of an GPRS connection.
And yes I can be wrong because I am human, laugh. But based on my experience I am not.
J. :good:
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Here is how it works in Germany (and I assume that is how it works everywhere).
You have a SIM Card which is on a GPRS Plan (normal data connection) and if you buy a special option for LTE you account will be upgraded and the SIM-Card which was running on GPRS is now able to connect to an LTE Network.
So in essence, you need an special LTE Plan, which cost more money. AND you need to be in an area where LTE is available, otherwise you pay more but the data speed is as slow as without LTE.
And DO NOT BELIEVE that you are getting 100 or more MBit/s, that is the maximum speed for that LTE Channel in the optimum distance.
If there is another LTE User with you on that channel, the speed drops. Last seen here in Munich at the Octoberfest where 30 or more people tried to connect to one particular LTE Access-Point and the system slowed down to a crawl.
On the other hand, if you have an LTE enabled phone/pad, you are getting normally a better speed performance out of an GPRS connection.
And yes I can be wrong because I am human, laugh. But based on my experience I am not.
J. :good:
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My phones Sim is a LTE enabled sim. What i need to know if theres a special TABLET option that needs to be enabled on the sim for it to work in the tablet. Theres mixed answers around the web.

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