I just loaded the new kodi helix and so far I dont see much of a difference other than that it can update itself in the future. I also noticed that most of the skins are not compatible. I currently use the latest spmc and I think i'm probably gonna stick with it. What does everyone else thing.
I run both. Comparing SPMC to the last Helix RC, I would say that SPMC does a slightly better job of playing high bitrate 1080p content. Also SPMC has more compatible skins.
no problems whatsoever with Kodi final - happy with it. (Aeon Nox skin), update from 13.2 was painless
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Spmc?? Beyond xbmc??
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sideloaded spmc and runs beautiful with all addons; ie Navi X, Mashup, etc...
replaced an I7 desktop with my fire tv for my HTPC, love it
spmc !
For my short experience and trying to play with it for sometime, SPMC is the winner.
Gotham 13.2 didn't play 1080p TV streams from a Hdhomerun properly; SPMC does. That's about the only difference ive noticed between the two.
Gotham 13.2 has been rock solid for me. Haven't had a single issue in weeks.
Using Gotham 13.2 and have no complaints. I did not see any benefit of using SPMC now that all the FireTV related bugs have been ironed out from the XBMC main branch.
Gotham 13.2 for me as well too. Loaded up hubwizard and everything working perfect for a couple weeks for me as well. No stutters, buffering, sound or video issues.
I have a fire TV stick and wanted to clear a couple of things before setting up kodi. Ideally I want to set it up once and then only update when there is a stable release later on.
I like the "ace" skin and have been using it on my htpc with gotham and I know that it has not added support for helix. When I updated my HTPC, it automatically moved all my settings in the old xbmc app folders to kodi app folders and things worked fairly smoothly. So my questions are :
1) Would it be possible to upgrade to helix when a stable version and skin support comes out later if I go with a gotham 13.2 on fire TV and the apk during installation will pick up and move all the required files or do I have to do all the configuring from scratch?
2) Is there any performance difference between the gotham and helix beta/nightly on fire TV if skin support is disregarded?
Any one? I was hoping some one here went updated from gotham to helix and found out?
Just curious what everyone uses and why. I have been using spmc since my first fire tv simply because I noticed a glitch in genesis when I have autoplay turned on it will split the screen into six sections sometimes randomly and I have to reboot. This is really my only reason for not using the standard xbmc gotham I don't really see any advantages or disadvantages other than that.
danknasty said:
Just curious what everyone uses and why. I have been using spmc since my first fire tv simply because I noticed a glitch in genesis when I have autoplay turned on it will split the screen into six sections sometimes randomly and I have to reboot. This is really my only reason for not using the standard xbmc gotham I don't really see any advantages or disadvantages other than that.
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XBMC Gotham 13.2 with Amber skin.
I use Amber since I need to have Netflix on the main menu and I like how it can send Movies directly to files (but in library mode.)
I personally have tried lots of nightlies and have stayed at SPMC 13.3.2 version. One below the latest of spmc. Spmc is a variant of xbmc and is made by the devs of xbmc. it has the firetv's power options built in. I like spmc 13.3.2 is because it can play all files well including .ts and also works with elmero's firetv confluence ++ skin well.
The only next version that plays files well is the helix but then helix lacks the confluence ++ skin from elmero. The version of the skin available now for helix has spacing issues with the tiles and the power options are missing. Besides for me helix does not have anything over and above what I have with spmc.
The only one issue I see with spmc 13.3.2 is that it crashes on startup occasionally, but that is not a big issue as I can start it up again with the xbmc icon which has replaced ikono.tv through the lama options on adbfire.
hope this helps.
I've used the last beta of Kodi on my Fire TV Stick and it runs really well. The remote is fully supported.
compacho said:
I've used the last beta of Kodi on my Fire TV Stick and it runs really well. The remote is fully supported.
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Do you use a custom skin with Kodi?
I'm running Helix RC-1 currently and using Aeon Nox 4 (modified for Helix).
unrooted uk box.
Sbmc latest version
confluence custom skin, it is functional, but is easy on remote time...
I don't load xbmc to doddle, I load it for a few items or "slink" back to Prime for music.
SPMC 13.3.2, the only version that works with Live TV (HD channels, TvHeadend backend, no transcoding).
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SPMC 13.3.2, the only version that works with Live TV (HD channels, TvHeadend backend, no transcoding).
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I am using spmc 13.3.3 running some live tv channels. Using simple pvr is 13.3.2 better for this? Sometimes channels don't work for me.
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I am using spmc 13.3.3 running some live tv channels. Using simple pvr is 13.3.2 better for this? Sometimes channels don't work for me.
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I've tried all flavors, only 13.3.2 runs smooth. Be sure to JUST enable "mediacodec". All HD channels run smooth now.
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I've tried all flavors, only 13.3.2 runs smooth. Be sure to JUST enable "mediacodec". All HD channels run smooth now.
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Are you using actual cable for your pvr or just links online.
TVMC
I'm using TVMC with Aeon Nox skin
It works actually faster and smoother than Gotham/Kodi/XBMC Ouya or SPMC...at least on my fire tv. + it has all addons set up for you
So far so good..
SPMC fails to load
Hello, I have downloaded the latest version from http://spmc.semperpax.com/ and installed but it fails to load. I see a black screen for a while and then goes back to menu. Probably I'm doing something wrong? just got but firetv and still learning some stuff. Thanks
SPMC FTW!!!
We're using Gotham (the updated version - forgot which one) on Confluence skin.
SPMC. Here is my setup for anyone interested.
Ok, so how do I setup live TV on my fire TV?
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navigates said:
I personally have tried lots of nightlies and have stayed at SPMC 13.3.2 version. One below the latest of spmc. Spmc is a variant of xbmc and is made by the devs of xbmc. it has the firetv's power options built in. I like spmc 13.3.2 is because it can play all files well including .ts and also works with elmero's firetv confluence ++ skin well.
The only next version that plays files well is the helix but then helix lacks the confluence ++ skin from elmero. The version of the skin available now for helix has spacing issues with the tiles and the power options are missing. Besides for me helix does not have anything over and above what I have with spmc.
The only one issue I see with spmc 13.3.2 is that it crashes on startup occasionally, but that is not a big issue as I can start it up again with the xbmc icon which has replaced ikono.tv through the lama options on adbfire.
hope this helps.
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Do you boot directly to xbmc or is at an 'app' on the main screen?
do you have fire tv box or stick?
jeep364 said:
Do you boot directly to xbmc or is at an 'app' on the main screen?
do you have fire tv box or stick?
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spmc is an app. ikono.tv is the sacrificial app with the icon changed. I boot to AFTV and use lama profiles to boot spmc on startup. firetv rooted latest with rbox. I like to have the aftv menu vs direct xbmc
SPMC 13.3.3 with Amber skin. Freaking best setup I've had!
Actually, I regret loading Mucky Ducks Wizard cause it took forever to load. But seems to be good now after I uninstalled half of the add-ons.
So I decided to pick up AFTV a week ago after reading so many good reviews about the device and how well it runs Kodi, but I am having an issue running certain MKV files with dual audio. When I try to play the videos Kodi either crashes to the FTV menu or restarts the whole device. I tried to disable the accelerators in settings and the video starts to play with stuttering and no audio. Anyone know what could be the cause of this and is there a fix available.
BTW I'm running Helix 14.0
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So I decided to pick up AFTV a week ago after reading so many good reviews about the device and how well it runs Kodi, but I am having an issue running certain MKV files with dual audio. When I try to play the videos Kodi either crashes to the FTV menu or restarts the whole device. I tried to disable the accelerators in settings and the video starts to play with stuttering and no audio. Anyone know what could be the cause of this and is there a fix available.
BTW I'm running Helix 14.0
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I had the same issues with both XBMC 13 and 14.. After lots of searching I found
I cant post links yet, but google "Work in Progress - Experimental simple deinterlacing" and you will get the Kodi forum that has an updated kodi for the issue.
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Try SPMC. I had problems of somekind with all versions of XBMC that I have tried on the Fire TV til I installed SPMC. I have not had one problem with SPMC and could instantly tell a difference in the smoothness of streams and video playback.
I think i've tried them all.
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Try SPMC. I had problems of somekind with all versions of XBMC that I have tried on the Fire TV til I installed SPMC. I have not had one problem with SPMC and could instantly tell a difference in the smoothness of streams and video playback.
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My problem with any version of XBMC whether it be SPMC or KODI is that 720p MPEG-2 always stutters. I've tried everything I think including.
SW only
Listagefright only
Mediacodec only
Listagefright and MediaCodec
SPMC 13.4 & 14.2 (I think these are the final versions i used)
KODI 13.4 & 14.2 & 15.1 (I think those are the final versions)
My next try was going to be to use MX player and the playercorefactory.xml but so far I haven't been able to get that to work. It just flashes really quick and does nothing when I click on a channel.
BTW....I have comcast so everything is in MPEG-2 and I use an HDHOMERUN prime that feeds a windows 7 machine with WMC running serverWMC and Plex (w/ serverWMC plex plugin). I also have an xbox 360 and that works perfectly but the only way I can get fire tv stick to work reliably is by transcoding to h.264. But this adds at least 10 seconds to a channel change and It really complicates the setup and maintenance. I would really like to not have to transcode and use KODI on the firetv stick as my front end. However, without mpeg2 720p support I can't.
I currently have kodi 14.2 installed, but HD Videos are a little choppy. Definately watchable, but still a little annoying. I don't know where the prolem lies exactly because the CPU is only at about 30% load and there are no dropped and skipped frames.
So i thought maybe someone can recommend a version of kodi that works better on the FTV stick.
Any suggestions?
Try using SPMC 14.2. SPMC is basically tailored to Android devices like the Fire TV and works great.
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I currently have kodi 14.2 installed, but HD Videos are a little choppy. Definately watchable, but still a little annoying. I don't know where the prolem lies exactly because the CPU is only at about 30% load and there are no dropped and skipped frames.
So i thought maybe someone can recommend a version of kodi that works better on the FTV stick.
Any suggestions?
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its probably the fact your watching 24hz videos at 60hz... huge downfall of the fireTV imo.
Thanks guys. I thought SPMC is specifically for RockChip devices. I will give it a try on my FTV Stick.
And about the 24hz vs. 60 hz thing: Is there a way to circumvent this?
So i installed SPMC today.
Unfortunately the only difference i saw was that it uses more than double the amount of CPU load than official kodi.
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So i installed SPMC today.
Unfortunately the only difference i saw was that it uses more than double the amount of CPU load than official kodi.
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did you try the nightlies of Kodi? I moved out of SPMC back and forth and now am at one of the recent nightlies with my backup which has the root enabled for suspend / etc. I do like Kodi but its getting a little dated and crashes very often. specially when live streaming from a website.
I've been using SPMC 14.2 on my new fire stick without issue and have it on my AFTV also. I've never had any issues with it.
Run any version of Kodi you want for a week to get used to it, then switch to SPMC, the results will be noticed quickly. Thats what I did and within seconds of playing live streams from my favorites list I realized that SPMC was the only version of XBMC/Kodi for Android that played every stream format smoothly. Every version of XBMC/Kodi I have ever used on android never played all stream formats without having some problem on certain formats, except for SPMC.
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Run any version of Kodi you want for a week to get used to it, then switch to SPMC, the results will be noticed quickly. Thats what I did and within seconds of playing live streams from my favorites list I realized that SPMC was the only version of XBMC/Kodi for Android that played every stream format smoothly. Every version of XBMC/Kodi I have ever used on android never played all stream formats without having some problem on certain formats, except for SPMC.
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That was precisely my experience when I switched to spmc last summer on aftv. Some said it was placebic because from Gotham on there shouldn't be any real reason spmc runs faster than kodi. But after a couple of weeks I moved back to kodi because I found similar glitches. Maybe I should've given it another try?...probably not for my boxes because they generally run well and its a pain amending file paths for advanced settings among other minor reasons, but you've got me intrigued about using it on the stick. Helix 14.2 isnt running optimally.
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That was precisely my experience when I switched to spmc last summer on aftv. Some said it was placebic because from Gotham on there shouldn't be any real reason spmc runs faster than kodi. But after a couple of weeks I moved back to kodi because I found similar glitches. Maybe I should've given it another try?...probably not for my boxes because they generally run well and its a pain amending file paths for advanced settings among other minor reasons, but you've got me intrigued about using it on the stick. Helix 14.2 isnt running optimally.
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When I first tried SPMC, I had the official XBMC installed. I installed SPMC, copied my addons and userdata folders. Then I tried the same exact streams from the same exact favorites.xml and they played so much smoother with SPMC than with the official build. It was very noticable. The official build did not have problems with every stream format, but it did with some, while SPMC has had no problems with any format. I ran them side by side on the same device and SPMC had better results so I ran with it instead of the official build. Like I said the official build is fine too, I just got tired of watching channels that made every movement look robotic and SPMC does not make any streams look robotic so for me its better.
Fire TV user here.
I really don't like SPMC's skip steps feature that it's backported from Isengard. It's even worse in every Isengard build I've tried.
Plus how it exits back to the Amazon home screen if you hold down the back button. That's really annoying.
Helix 14.2 gets my vote.
I've been using TVMC without issue. Wonder if I should make the switch to something else. Not really sure what I'm missing though.
Well I installed SPMC and copy/paste the appropriate folder to keep my settings/add-ons.
Performance seems the same except that now spmc is listed on recent apps.