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I updated to Jelly Bean 4.1.1 using Eftrant's method and did a complete wipe, re-installed and setup every application/game from the market but I've noticed that when I access places like Apps under Settings menu, using programs like Quick App Manager, the phone freezes or hangs. This problem was pretty bad in 4.1 but 4.1.1 seems to have improved it just a bit (not freezing/restarting as much). I thought that this was an application specific problem but doesn't look like it. Anybody having the same issue and have a solution/workaround?
Just to be clear, when I was running ICS the phone did not have a single instance of Freeze or Restart, I've been using this phone since January, so, it is not a problem with my phone either, just with the Jelly Bean update and the issue doesn't happen all the time only sometimes.
Have you tried doing a factory reset and running it without very many apps to see if it helps?
I have the same problem with Stock 4.1.1. Nothing helps (Full Wipe, No own Apps installed, Wipe cache, etc.). It randomly occurs in Settings/Apps. The Phone freezes and needs 1 Minute - Then "Settings isn't responding. Do you want to close it?"
To reproduce the problem: Slide in Settings/Apps from "DOWNLOADED" to "RUNNING" to "ALL" and back - a few times. Sometime the phone freezes.
Does it freeze at all with no apps installed? Can you pinpoint the freezes to a certain type of thing you're doing?
martonikaj said:
Does it freeze at all with no apps installed? Can you pinpoint the freezes to a certain type of thing you're doing?
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No, unfortunately not. With absolutely no apps installed the problem occurs less times but it is not gone. I think there is a bug.
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Can anyone try to reproduce the issue? It seems to occur only after a full wipe and some apps installed.
Slide in Settings/Apps from "DOWNLOADED" to "RUNNING" to "ALL" and back - a few times. Sometime the phone freezes.
It also happens when you try to clear data/clear cache of a certain application like Browser, Gmail, Gallery, or any of the stock apps. A mentioned earlier the frequency of the phone freezing reduces if there are no applications installed. This definitely seems to be a bug that occurs when a lot of data about all the applications is being pulled at once. You can replicate the issue if you install an app like Quick App Manager which scans all apps when the app is started.
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It also happens when you try to clear data/clear cache of a certain application like Browser, Gmail, Gallery, or any of the stock apps. A mentioned earlier the frequency of the phone freezing reduces if there are no applications installed. This definitely seems to be a bug that occurs when a lot of data about all the applications is being pulled at once. You can replicate the issue if you install an app like Quick App Manager which scans all apps when the app is started.
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Thank you for the Info!
It was happening on my GN too. But now it's fine.
I used to flash 4.0.4 factory image and OTA to 4.1.1 many times(more than 6). It was fine without any app installed from google play. After about 60 apps, freeze in setting-apps. Jump in an app detail, back, in another, freeze.
Now it' OK. But unfortunately, I don't know which setting fixed it. I try a lot.
Do you use flipboard? Or any large number of fragment files in sdcard/android/ ? Try to clean. Set flipboard to use internal storage.
If freeze again, er.....the last method. wipe cache, factory reset, flash 4.0.4, install apps and then OTA 4.1.1. Instead of OTA 4.1.1 and then install apps.
hope you can understand my English, and this can help you.
bynature said:
It was happening on my GN too. But now it's fine.
I used to flash 4.0.4 factory image and OTA to 4.1.1 many times(more than 6). It was fine without any app installed from google play. After about 60 apps, freeze in setting-apps. Jump in an app detail, back, in another, freeze.
Now it' OK. But unfortunately, I don't know which setting fixed it. I try a lot.
Do you use flipboard? Or any large number of fragment files in sdcard/android/ ? Try to clean. Set flipboard to use internal storage.
If freeze again, er.....the last method. wipe cache, factory reset, flash 4.0.4, install apps and then OTA 4.1.1. Instead of OTA 4.1.1 and then install apps.
hope you can understand my English, and this can help you.
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"install apps and then OTA 4.1.1. Instead of OTA 4.1.1 and then install apps" fix the problem but i want to use a Custom ROM....
The Issue is listed on: code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=35101
It's weird. Such an easy freeze and so few reports about it.
bynature said:
It's weird. Such an easy freeze and so few reports about it.
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Well I have the same problem. It generally happens to me after I delete apps via settings...apps.
enough to make me quit cell phones
Happens on my nexus constantly. Verizon has sent me two replacements, which I sent back because they did the same thing, with or without any apps installed. All have had 4.1.1. This problem does not occur on 4.0.4, which I have flashed to the devices after upgrading to 4.1.1 just to run some tests. There is clearly a bug in the vzw 4.1.1 update. It is very, very frustrating and happens regardless of the apps we try to force close, clear cache, etc. They do not have to be google apps as someone has posted. I can easily duplicate the issue and it has been witnessed by two different corporate locations across four reps. I hope we can get a flashable 4.1.2 update soon, I've tried a 4.1.2 rom briefly and have not had the phone freeze at all.
Happens to me. I re flashed the rom and all went wrll
Swyped on my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP with Franco Kernel
Logcat/dmesg or it didnt happen.
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Logcat/dmesg or it didnt happen.
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Funny.
Though it seems that logcat doesn't even log the problem, the phone is frozen solid for a couple minutes when it does freeze. I'll pull a logcat.
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And dmesg?
You people think its easy to troubleshoot these "freezes", and come in here without anything other than "i've tried a few roms and it still happens"
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Hi guys,
I've been using Cyanogenmod 7, and it was going very slow. I decided to completely wipe the phone and SD card and start from scratch with Andromadus Mimicry ROM. It is much faster I find but I still get the random slowdowns.
My biggest problems seem to be with the Facebook app, it slows down the phone incredibly. even when you exit the app, unless you force close it, the whole phone goes to a crawl.
I also find even if I uninstall the facebook app, I get lots of random slowdowns, like random times during the day I'll go to read my SMS and it takes FOREVER to load (go sms app)
any ideas?
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Hi guys,
I've been using Cyanogenmod 7, and it was going very slow. I decided to completely wipe the phone and SD card and start from scratch with Andromadus Mimicry ROM. It is much faster I find but I still get the random slowdowns.
My biggest problems seem to be with the Facebook app, it slows down the phone incredibly. even when you exit the app, unless you force close it, the whole phone goes to a crawl.
I also find even if I uninstall the facebook app, I get lots of random slowdowns, like random times during the day I'll go to read my SMS and it takes FOREVER to load (go sms app)
any ideas?
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Are your partitions ext4? Did you debug and follow the steps in the Mimicry OP?
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4EXT is paid software eh? don't really want to pay for it if I can avoid it, any other way of checking??
Wheres the debug steps?
4ext is a free custom recovery, there is an app similar to rom manager that is a paid app. if you don't want to support the developer for whatever reason your choice, but you can still flash the 4ext recoverey via fastboot or a pc10img
can you get a logcat? if your slowdowns are easily duplicated then plug phone into computer, and run a logcat through adb when you are experiancing this
*facebook apps is terrible* (so is facebook)
study the op of mimcry, search the threads for similar problems.
just an fyi - mimcry is one of the best ics roms for the vision and if you are having strange slowdowns then either a bug needs to be reported or you did something wrong
(didn't fully wipe, still in ext3, etc)
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thanks man, I tried android market and can only find a paid app called 4ext. I use clockworkmod recovery as thats what cyanogenmod 7 recommended, I have not activley done anything to setup ext4 though as there was nothing in mimcry instructions for this.
i cant easily duplicate the issue as it happens totally at random.
i fully wiped and reset to factory defaults before installing mimcry also
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thanks man, I tried android market and can only find a paid app called 4ext. I use clockworkmod recovery as thats what cyanogenmod 7 recommended, I have not activley done anything to setup ext4 though as there was nothing in mimcry instructions for this.
i cant easily duplicate the issue as it happens totally at random.
i fully wiped and reset to factory defaults before installing mimcry also
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go into tsubus' ilwt cm7 thread, there you will find a link to superwipeg2+ext4, this will wipe all and change format of everything but sd card to ext4
don't check the market for custom recoveries, you go there for apps, look for the 4ext thread in the dev section or just google it
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okay thanks for your help! i got 4ext installed and checked info, so my system partition is ext4, data and cache are ext3... sd card is fat32
so I need to wipe and redo it with ext4 for all of them?
all but sd card should be ext4
sd card should be fat32
sdext (if you have it) should be ext4
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you're great help thanks heaps.
so now I've got 4ext and i ran superwipeg2+ext4, then reinstalled my mimcry rom, just reinstalling all my apps i want now, will see how it goes
checked info and everything is now ext4 apart from sd card which is fat32. hope this makes a good difference!
damnit, no improovement still slow as fawk, just started up endomondo and signed in, now have a black screen and a crashed phone for the last 5 mins... oh wait now it loaded... grr
Please read the FAQ in the Mimicry OP. You need to find the apps causing the slowdowns and either uninstall them or wipe their data if you're restoring app data from Titanium backup.
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I am having a very hard time finding which apps are causing this, and none were restored, all were installed totally fresh from market after fresh install of the ROM.
I've read everything in the FAQ and can't seem to find any answer
m1k30rz said:
I am having a very hard time finding which apps are causing this, and none were restored, all were installed totally fresh from market after fresh install of the ROM.
I've read everything in the FAQ and can't seem to find any answer
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Install watchdog, or view wakelock use with betterbatterystats. Better yet, use logcat and grab a log of the slowdowns as they happen.
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Thanks, I am happy to get a log using logcat, do you have some basic instructions for me to do this? I already have android SDK installed, is it a matter of just running adb logcat and waiting or?
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Thanks, I am happy to get a log using logcat, do you have some basic instructions for me to do this? I already have android SDK installed, is it a matter of just running adb logcat and waiting or?
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Yep, though I would use Watchdog first to see if it alerts on any high cpu processes.
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Sounds good man, just installed watchdog and will see how it goes thanks for your advice
strangely enough watchdog has not found a single problem yet even though my phone keeps slowing down every now and then, seems to be slightly less frequent now after all the apps have settled in I guess? still certainly doing it though
also one other issue I found is a program I use called AirDroid stops working properly through its web interface if the phone locks, which I didnt have this problem on CM7
Mind if i but in, but this problem is discussed and handled well in the AOKP nik3rs rom EliteMod & EliteKernel ICS* (which I highley recommend!)
But Its seems one of the problems that can cause this is bcuz you some people still have there apps backed up from there GB rom with their account and switching to ICS rom will only install the GB forms of the app from the market its highley recommended to backup data from apps in Titanum, and Install all new apps to your account and then restore data from Titanium.
Also I have alsot noticed that in 4ext sometimes Superwipe isn't always the answer Try Using the "Format All (except SDCARD)" option in 4ext it seems to clear away alot more bugs then superwipe! hope that helps..
Also try elitemods dataswap and sdext patch if you stay on mimicry!
Thanks man might have to give that ROM a try. And once again I fully wiped and loaded the ROM and I installed each application freshly from the google play store. nothing was backed up or restored so thats not the problem
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damnit, no improovement still slow as fawk, just started up endomondo and signed in, now have a black screen and a crashed phone for the last 5 mins... oh wait now it loaded... grr
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Maybe I should have been more clear in my last post, Are you using SD-EXT? or data swap? and The way I have to flash is sometimes is after dalvike/cache ofcourse
1- Factory/data reset
2.-Then apply the zip superwipe (let it reboot)
3.-Then apply the FORMAT ALL EXCEPT SDCARD option in 4ext
....and just to note you are mounting everything before you wipe right?
Hope this can help.
And if not I would again highly recommend the EliteMod Rom its the best!!
Hi guys. I flashed a new rom this morning. I went from a 4.3 to a 4.3 rom, so no problems right? I checked the checksums, and the rom was fine. Everything went well and I started my titanium backups. It froze. It rebooted and then I kept getting android.process.acore has stopped. it comes up immediately after I hit ok and doesn't let me do anything. So I went back to my backup. Same thing happens here. I wiped, it, installed new roms, Everything I do gives me this. Factory reset, new rom flash, ect.
The google answer seems to be clear the data out of the contacts in app manager, but I can't even get there.
any insight would be appreciated.
thanks.
Well, I can enter 1 keystroke between error messages. I went through the initial setup 1 keystroke at a time. When it was finished logging into google, it just started over again with the samsung account.
Sounds like leftover data causing your issues. Follow these instructions http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50335424. You will also want to delete two folders from your external sdcard android and data if they exist. Now that your phone is totally clean you should have no more problems.
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Thanks,. I have started down that road. I'm not sure if the sd card is the culprit, as I tried it without it as well.
OK, so I know... lousy first post... But, I just want a bit of overall guidance because I think I might be doing something fundamentally wrong and I'm hoping to fix that. So first let me say thanks for all the awesome ROMS and lot of cool fixes and ideas, I always check here first and appreciate the work you guys are doing!
I have had no fear in installing ROMs, I rooted as soon as my warranty was void at verizon. I love my old DInc! But, I can only install like 20 total apps now, and I think I've done something wrong or am doing something wrong.
Here's the history of what I've been doing.
Stock, Virtuous, CM6, CM7.2, CM7.2... It was here where I started to run into the low memory. All the forms said for this I should ext4all the dalvik cache. so I grabbed that file and installed it. The memory warning went away, but things got really ugly choppy and slow with a bunch of FC's. So I decided to change things up, and went to try an ICS ROM (I think albinoman) and installed a couple times... and I didn't wipe the dalvik cache before doing this. though I did wipe the factory data and cache. After this I noticed that a lot of things remained on my phone (wifi passwords, pictures, etc... like I hadn't erased any data). Soon after finding some bugs that drove me crazy, I upgraded to a CarbonRom (Thanks zachf714!) I loved it, but it seemed like I couldn't install as much as I used to on CM7.2... and maybe I can't... But I'd run into low memory things again and again, and eventually got it down to basically google apps, facebook, and a couple podcast/radio and the essential video apps for chromecast. Well, I wanted to try kit kat out, and I had started to run out of memory again, so I went in and grabbed the new CM11 and installed it, This time I wiped dalvik, factory data, and cache before install. It was amazing like a brand new phone... Only this time 2 of my previous apps were unable to install because I had "insufficient storage available". So I pushed as much as I could to the SD card, and that still didn't help eventually it was so out of space that the launcher would crash immediately after reboot. So I tried to reinstall everything, wiped all three, installed the rom, ext4all, then GAPPS... This time facebook ran out of space before it could even install. So I went back and tried again but without the ext4all... and now facebook and google voice run out of space before I can get htem installed...
So I guess the question is, what the heck am I doing wrong in my clear? I seem to constantly be shrinking the available space on my phone for apps. I know that it's a limited thing and has been a problem for the DInc, but how do I fix this? Do I just go into the file system and start rm-rf in the file structure? I don't even have (nor can I try) to install games at this point, and I fear logging into apps in fear that I'll shrink the space even more. And by all means feel free to point me to the "installing a custom ROM, You're doing it wrong!" thread that is in front of my nose and I'm missing. I've got 5Gb of space on my SD and ~3GB of free space on the phone itself... So I'm at a loss and that's why it's acting this way, and that's why I'm asking for help. Would I be better off going back to CM7.2 or trying to keep going with the newer ROMS?
Thanks again for any help and advice you have.
OK well let me ask something differently then and maybe I can get some help. Being that I'm new I need 9 new posts before I can go to the devs page and ask there anyway...
Does anyone know what folders/files are critical to keep on the device? I can nuke the rest and try again.
Would starting with a blank SD card make difference?
Thanks again.
Well not really the external sd card is only for apps moved to sd card. You should just fully flash and start over. That is what I have had to do. I hope this helps you out.
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bluesmantj said:
OK, so I know... lousy first post... But, I just want a bit of overall guidance because I think I might be doing something fundamentally wrong and I'm hoping to fix that. So first let me say thanks for all the awesome ROMS and lot of cool fixes and ideas, I always check here first and appreciate the work you guys are doing!
I have had no fear in installing ROMs, I rooted as soon as my warranty was void at verizon. I love my old DInc! But, I can only install like 20 total apps now, and I think I've done something wrong or am doing something wrong.
Here's the history of what I've been doing.
Stock, Virtuous, CM6, CM7.2, CM7.2... It was here where I started to run into the low memory. All the forms said for this I should ext4all the dalvik cache. so I grabbed that file and installed it. The memory warning went away, but things got really ugly choppy and slow with a bunch of FC's. So I decided to change things up, and went to try an ICS ROM (I think albinoman) and installed a couple times... and I didn't wipe the dalvik cache before doing this. though I did wipe the factory data and cache. After this I noticed that a lot of things remained on my phone (wifi passwords, pictures, etc... like I hadn't erased any data). Soon after finding some bugs that drove me crazy, I upgraded to a CarbonRom (Thanks zachf714!) I loved it, but it seemed like I couldn't install as much as I used to on CM7.2... and maybe I can't... But I'd run into low memory things again and again, and eventually got it down to basically google apps, facebook, and a couple podcast/radio and the essential video apps for chromecast. Well, I wanted to try kit kat out, and I had started to run out of memory again, so I went in and grabbed the new CM11 and installed it, This time I wiped dalvik, factory data, and cache before install. It was amazing like a brand new phone... Only this time 2 of my previous apps were unable to install because I had "insufficient storage available". So I pushed as much as I could to the SD card, and that still didn't help eventually it was so out of space that the launcher would crash immediately after reboot. So I tried to reinstall everything, wiped all three, installed the rom, ext4all, then GAPPS... This time facebook ran out of space before it could even install. So I went back and tried again but without the ext4all... and now facebook and google voice run out of space before I can get htem installed...
So I guess the question is, what the heck am I doing wrong in my clear? I seem to constantly be shrinking the available space on my phone for apps. I know that it's a limited thing and has been a problem for the DInc, but how do I fix this? Do I just go into the file system and start rm-rf in the file structure? I don't even have (nor can I try) to install games at this point, and I fear logging into apps in fear that I'll shrink the space even more. And by all means feel free to point me to the "installing a custom ROM, You're doing it wrong!" thread that is in front of my nose and I'm missing. I've got 5Gb of space on my SD and ~3GB of free space on the phone itself... So I'm at a loss and that's why it's acting this way, and that's why I'm asking for help. Would I be better off going back to CM7.2 or trying to keep going with the newer ROMS?
Thanks again for any help and advice you have.
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but the idea of what is happening here is not making sence I do not get why a full wipe and full reflash would not fix your issue here if you are doing it all right.
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From terminal:
df /data/data
df /data
And tell me what they report.
The Inc has a small /data/data partition so that could be the problem. But if a full wipe doesn't fix it I don't know. Maybe the hardware is going bad but I'm not sure.
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tiny4579 said:
From terminal:
df /data/data
df /data
And tell me what they report.
The Inc has a small /data/data partition so that could be the problem. But if a full wipe doesn't fix it I don't know. Maybe the hardware is going bad but I'm not sure.
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Looks like it's time to get a new phone then huh... So What I've got free is:
/data size 748M Used 496.4M Free 251.6M
/data/data 149 118.4 and 30.6
So I guess I'm just running out of room and need to pick my apps a little more wisely then huh?
Thanks for your help!
bluesmantj said:
Looks like it's time to get a new phone then huh... So What I've got free is:
/data size 748M Used 496.4M Free 251.6M
/data/data 149 118.4 and 30.6
So I guess I'm just running out of room and need to pick my apps a little more wisely then huh?
Thanks for your help!
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Do you have chrome installed? It's an app data hog.
When /data/data fills up or gets close to doing so there start to be issues and that might be the cause of your issue.
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tiny4579 said:
Do you have chrome installed? It's an app data hog.
When /data/data fills up or gets close to doing so there start to be issues and that might be the cause of your issue.
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No I don't have chrome installed... right now all I can keep on it are 24 apps (If you want the list I'll message it to you)
I can't even get Google+ or facebook to fit anymore
bluesmantj said:
No I don't have chrome installed... right now all I can keep on it are 24 apps (If you want the list I'll message it to you)
I can't even get Google+ or facebook to fit anymore
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Can you do a factory reset from recovery (backup if you want to keep your apps for any reason) and then run the commands again? I'm curious if there's an issue with the partitions and they're not clearing. It seems weird that 24 apps would fill up 130MB of /data/data and 500MB of /data. Oh, contact storage and calls/text messages use up /data/data as well.
Sounds similar to me. I can only fit about 30 apps. Most are small but I do have chrome. I swear I had more before jumping to 4.x. That is why I was considering a datamedia build but I haven't had time lately to play with it.
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tiny4579 said:
Can you do a factory reset from recovery (backup if you want to keep your apps for any reason) and then run the commands again? I'm curious if there's an issue with the partitions and they're not clearing. It seems weird that 24 apps would fill up 130MB of /data/data and 500MB of /data. Oh, contact storage and calls/text messages use up /data/data as well.
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Sorry this took forever for me to get around to, just been short on time recently thanks again for the help!
Ok factory reset from phone complete.
into recovery
wipe dalvik
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache
wipe dalvik again (just for good measure)
install cm11
install gapps... I'll report back as issues come around.
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Sorry this took forever for me to get around to, just been short on time recently thanks again for the help!
Ok factory reset from phone complete.
into recovery
wipe dalvik
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache
wipe dalvik again (just for good measure)
install cm11
install gapps... I'll report back as issues come around.
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Well... Everything looked nice and fresh on the first go... Then one app hung on install, so I restarted the phone. When I did my old wallpaper returned, so I quickly went to check the gallery and look for the photos that should have been erased in the factory wipe... But they are all still there like nothing happened.
So even though it's currently installing apps... I have zero faith that I get through all of them before I run out of usable space again.
bluesmantj said:
Well... Everything looked nice and fresh on the first go... Then one app hung on install, so I restarted the phone. When I did my old wallpaper returned, so I quickly went to check the gallery and look for the photos that should have been erased in the factory wipe... But they are all still there like nothing happened.
So even though it's currently installing apps... I have zero faith that I get through all of them before I run out of usable space again.
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You didn't run the commands I asked you to after the factory reset and reboot.
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tiny4579 said:
You didn't run the commands I asked you to after the factory reset and reboot.
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Riiiight... those commands.... guess I just read that wrong sorry.
Right now I have
/data size 748M Used 625.2M Free 122.9M
/data/data size 149M Used 103.4M Free 45.6M
This is after all the apps restored themselves... this time though I did manage to get G+ and Facebook up, but I havent' logged into all the apps yet, so I'm assuming they stay at base size until log in (such as maps, netflix, hbogo, etc...). I did a couple things different, I am no longer syncing all the contacts from my 3 google accounts, and I eliminated an app that I probably won't use as much anymore.
I don't have time again right now to re-wipe the phone but I'll try that right after a wipe in the next couple days. Just so I don't mess up again, I should factory wipe, cache wipe, dalvik wipe, install cm11 and gapps, but then as soon as terminal emulator loads back up run those commands to see if it actually cleared things, or should I stop all the restore from google and pull only terminal emulator for this? What's going to be the most diagnostic?
Do you think switching from clockwork recovery to TWRP make a difference? Do you have a preference in one over the other?
bluesmantj said:
Riiiight... those commands.... guess I just read that wrong sorry.
Right now I have
/data size 748M Used 625.2M Free 122.9M
/data/data size 149M Used 103.4M Free 45.6M
This is after all the apps restored themselves... this time though I did manage to get G+ and Facebook up, but I havent' logged into all the apps yet, so I'm assuming they stay at base size until log in (such as maps, netflix, hbogo, etc...). I did a couple things different, I am no longer syncing all the contacts from my 3 google accounts, and I eliminated an app that I probably won't use as much anymore.
I don't have time again right now to re-wipe the phone but I'll try that right after a wipe in the next couple days. Just so I don't mess up again, I should factory wipe, cache wipe, dalvik wipe, install cm11 and gapps, but then as soon as terminal emulator loads back up run those commands to see if it actually cleared things, or should I stop all the restore from google and pull only terminal emulator for this? What's going to be the most diagnostic?
Do you think switching from clockwork recovery to TWRP make a difference? Do you have a preference in one over the other?
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If you're worried about that time to restore after a wipe you can take a backup and wipe and run those commands from terminal emulator before signing into google. Then after getting the needed info restore your backup.
Clockwork vs TWRP comes down to personal preference. They both implement the same recovery commands and probably also use the same exact wipe commands internally. So there's no real difference other than ui. TWRP has had some funky builds on the inc though so I recommend clockworkmod for the Inc.
Fyi factory reset clears dalvik and cache too so no need to do those separately.
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tiny4579 said:
If you're worried about that time to restore after a wipe you can take a backup and wipe and run those commands from terminal emulator before signing into google. Then after getting the needed info restore your backup.
Clockwork vs TWRP comes down to personal preference. They both implement the same recovery commands and probably also use the same exact wipe commands internally. So there's no real difference other than ui. TWRP has had some funky builds on the inc though so I recommend clockworkmod for the Inc.
Fyi factory reset clears dalvik and cache too so no need to do those separately.
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Oh cool, never thought of that, I've only ever upgraded as a result of running out of space or things slowing down so I've never really wanted to back up and restore those before.
Right... So factory wipe
install cm11/gapps
only terminal emulator installed...
/data size 748M Used 109.8M Free 638.2M
/data/data size 149M Used 29.3M Free 119.7M
Although this is a huge decrease...
connecting as USB shows that basically all of the files on the phone itself remain, so the factory reset essentially doesn't wipe any of the data from the phone?????
Thanks again!
When I did the restore, it brought back things for me, but caused a severe amount of instability and everything force quit on me. lost my launchers can't get to apps... and it keeps auto quitting google media services every 5 seconds... not sure if this is indicative of a different problem or just how precarious everything is on my device. Anyway, factory reset, and now back to the google restore...
Oh... a couple more questions.
1) when I factory restore this way it should wipe out other data like my set up wifi networks? (it doesn't)
2) what about other app data? things like my sonos app after the factor reset didn't even need to be set up again... I find this odd
bluesmantj said:
When I did the restore, it brought back things for me, but caused a severe amount of instability and everything force quit on me. lost my launchers can't get to apps... and it keeps auto quitting google media services every 5 seconds... not sure if this is indicative of a different problem or just how precarious everything is on my device. Anyway, factory reset, and now back to the google restore...
Oh... a couple more questions.
1) when I factory restore this way it should wipe out other data like my set up wifi networks? (it doesn't)
2) what about other app data? things like my sonos app after the factor reset didn't even need to be set up again... I find this odd
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If you factory reset, you should have zero apps aside from the apps built into the Rom and gapps and all your settings reset. If that's not that case something is wrong.
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tiny4579 said:
If you factory reset, you should have zero apps aside from the apps built into the Rom and gapps and all your settings reset. If that's not that case something is wrong.
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Well.. that's good to know, looks like I won't be able to just factory reset and pass the phone along when I'm done with it... Gonna have to take a hammer and giant magnet to it! Did the memory look better on the reset though?
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Well.. that's good to know, looks like I won't be able to just factory reset and pass the phone along when I'm done with it... Gonna have to take a hammer and giant magnet to it! Did the memory look better on the reset though?
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putting a magnet to a piece of flash storage does not destroy it, also from that used info it looks like it is just the data from the gapps... Try going into recovery and doing an advanced wipe, then checking everything but external sd and swiping to wipe
So it seems like we never really came to a solution here.
Has anyone tried increasing the sizes of these partitions. The /data/data only being 150mb is really limiting. Facebook likes to take 50mbs on it's own. I wondered if it would be possible to increase the storage of the internal partition and that /data/data folder. For most of us the purchasing of a large SD card for storing music and pictures and stuff is no big deal, if I could devote more of the internal storage to applications that would be awesome.
I've used sultanxda's cm 13 rom since it's inception and only stayed there because of xposed. Since the official xposed was released, I decided to upgrade and have had nothing but problems.
To start with, I upgraded with TWRP by wiping (system/cache), flashing new fw by sultan, flashing the new sultanxda cm14 rom, flashed gapps, flashed magisk, wiped cache, and booted. After it booted it up, a lot of FC and apps staying on their splash window and closing.
So I tried RR and they fared well, but after a while it started doing the same. I could be not using my phone for a few hours, load whats app, and it would FC.
Backed up data (using TB), did a full wipe (system/data/cache), flashed fw, flashed rom, flashed gapp, magisk, xposed, and flashed the update.zip I created with TB. After boot and restore it did the same thing.
Thinking maybe it's the data, I did the above, but this time I didn't restore the data by TB's update.zip. I did a clean install, booted, waited for google play to restore by downloading all apps, then restored only the data using TB. This seemed to be having the best result and I used it all day with minor issues like whatsapp would not update until I launched it. So if people were sending me messages, I didn't know until I launched whatsapp.
Went to bed and woke up, same deal as the original problems. Lots of apps: Whatsapp, Web video broadcaster, whisper, signal, ring, sc, firetv app, and many more would either give FC or not launch. Only way I figured to fix it is restore the app only using TB.
I even tried reflashing the FW and Open beta FW again, but that did not help.
What is about my phone and nougat that's causing me to have these problems? I had no issue using MM with all of these apps. If they were not compatible, google would have not downloaded them after a clean install.
Anyone else having these issues or know what might be going on? I'm very tempted to go back to my MM backup and update the data for all apps if I cant fix this.
ahb83 said:
I've used sultanxda's cm 13 rom since it's inception and only stayed there because of xposed. Since the official xposed was released, I decided to upgrade and have had nothing but problems.
To start with, I upgraded with TWRP by wiping (system/cache), flashing new fw by sultan, flashing the new sultanxda cm14 rom, flashed gapps, flashed magisk, wiped cache, and booted. After it booted it up, a lot of FC and apps staying on their splash window and closing.
So I tried RR and they fared well, but after a while it started doing the same. I could be not using my phone for a few hours, load whats app, and it would FC.
Backed up data (using TB), did a full wipe (system/data/cache), flashed fw, flashed rom, flashed gapp, magisk, xposed, and flashed the update.zip I created with TB. After boot and restore it did the same thing.
Thinking maybe it's the data, I did the above, but this time I didn't restore the data by TB's update.zip. I did a clean install, booted, waited for google play to restore by downloading all apps, then restored only the data using TB. This seemed to be having the best result and I used it all day with minor issues like whatsapp would not update until I launched it. So if people were sending me messages, I didn't know until I launched whatsapp.
Went to bed and woke up, same deal as the original problems. Lots of apps: Whatsapp, Web video broadcaster, whisper, signal, ring, sc, firetv app, and many more would either give FC or not launch. Only way I figured to fix it is restore the app only using TB.
I even tried reflashing the FW and Open beta FW again, but that did not help.
What is about my phone and nougat that's causing me to have these problems? I had no issue using MM with all of these apps. If they were not compatible, google would have not downloaded them after a clean install.
Anyone else having these issues or know what might be going on? I'm very tempted to go back to my MM backup and update the data for all apps if I cant fix this.
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/using TB is known to brek google push messaging service. Alos when going from something that was on android m to android n, always do a clean flash (formatting both caches, system and data) When backing up, make sure to only back up and restore user data. Not a single piece of system info should ever be restored.
zelendel said:
/using TB is known to brek google push messaging service. Alos when going from something that was on android m to android n, always do a clean flash (formatting both caches, system and data) When backing up, make sure to only back up and restore user data. Not a single piece of system info should ever be restored.
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right, that's what I did this last time I reflashed everything. backed up all important apps, flashed everything, let google restore the apps, and restore only the data to the non-system apps.
would that have an effect of every other app though? I could not use web video caster even thought it was a fresh install, no restored data, because it would just FC.
ahb83 said:
right, that's what I did this last time I reflashed everything. backed up all important apps, flashed everything, let google restore the apps, and restore only the data to the non-system apps.
would that have an effect of every other app though? I could not use web video caster even thought it was a fresh install, no restored data, because it would just FC.
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The best thing you can do is grab matlog from the play store and run a logcat. The post it in the roms thread.