Hi everyone,
I've been following near field communication since I got the rugby pro last April, hoping to ultize it for contactless payments and a possible means of a transist fare option. The problem I faced was the OS (4.1.2 and 4.2.2) did not offically support NFC for these purposes (long story about ISIS/Softcard, Google Wallet, Simply Tapp and the secure element). Recently I aqquired an S5 active since Kit Kat and above support host card emulation (in addition a software emulation of the secure element). While looking on youtube, I came across this intresting video.
http://youtu.be/d4NmYdMAAHU
In a nutshell, the modern readers that HID Global has the abilty to reconize mobile devices, and via a backend (and what could be assumed as a tokenization) allows access control.
Within the last couple months, the corsponding apps appeared on the play store and the iTunes store. This may end up being the kick that NFC needs
Thought it was worth mentioning here.
Joe
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hey guys, i'm having trouble with finding a program like mobiledit or jeyo that allows you to SMS and have phone priveleges on a pc. my netbook has windows 7 starter and i can't find anything that works with windows 7 starter or with wp7 or with both. anyone know something i could use? this is a necessity with me. if i can't find something, i'll be migrating away from wp7 and my samsung focus. even samsung's own pc studio software does not support the focus.
all my controls would be via bluetooth.
there isn't a program at present to do this as the phone is locked down quite a bit and APIs would need to be written to get this going (or phone needs to be hacked up for it, which i don't see happening any time soon).
The Gate Keeper said:
there isn't a program at present to do this as the phone is locked down quite a bit and APIs would need to be written to get this going (or phone needs to be hacked up for it, which i don't see happening any time soon).
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that seems so odd to me. windows 7 starters automatically answers incoming calls and allows me controls of my phone's zune playback (forward/backwards, stop/pause) while connected to the phone via bluetooth, so you would think since windows has already got the functionality of partially controlling the phone, they would go ahead and add the texting and the "answer/ignore/dial" functionality as well.
there are some serious functionality problems with the wp7 in these regards. you go look at mobiledit's list of working phones and it is just about every phone made except the windows phone 7. any ideas on if this could happen in the next year?
i would suggest hitting up social.microsoft.com about this. that is more of a direct source. MS could provide more ideas as to what they're doing at the MWC next week, but i doubt it would be detailed enough down to particular featuresets.
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today i saw this on google play
anybody khows anything ?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dsi.ant.usbservice
It's something related to collect and transfer sensor data
Usually used by sport or health monitoring devices
Fyi, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANT%2B :laugh:
off-shore ting
It is interfacing code you need to interface apps writen for phones with built in ANT support that allows you to use them on phones with USB Host mode and an ANT USB stick plugged in. There was an anouncment about it on the thisisant website earlier in the week. I updated my cyceling computer app IpBike to add support yesterday, just a matter of rebuilding with an updated version of the ANT Android API. It's a fairly cool adition from my point of view as the number of phones with built in ANT support was fairly limited. I have put some more details on my site at iforpowell.com
You can find pictures and a description of my set up here:
http://www.nfcbrief.com/2012/07/acr122-and-galaxy-nexus-connected-via.html
Basically, ACS released an application called Smart Biz Card that allows you to read and write contact NFC tags with the popular ACR122 connected via USB host. The application is only for tablets, so it will look strange on phone screens, but this can be fixed by entering tablet mode.
I'm sure many of you viewing this sub-forum also have a ACR122, so maybe this application will provide some clues as to unlocking more advanced features through external readers?
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You can find pictures and a description of my set up here:
http://www.nfcbrief.com/2012/07/acr122-and-galaxy-nexus-connected-via.html
Basically, ACS released an application called Smart Biz Card that allows you to read and write contact NFC tags with the popular ACR122 connected via USB host. The application is only for tablets, so it will look strange on phone screens, but this can be fixed by entering tablet mode.
I'm sure many of you viewing this sub-forum also have a ACR122, so maybe this application will provide some clues as to unlocking more advanced features through external readers?
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hi good job but i don't see the point ?? Nexus for example already have NFC so why connect ACR 122 ??
Bardamuz said:
hi good job but i don't see the point ?? Nexus for example already have NFC so why connect ACR 122 ??
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My thinking was that this sort of thing would be ideal for NFC hacking. The documentation for the ACR122 states that it can do card emulation (but everyone seems to be having trouble with it). If we could somehow get the drivers for the ACR122 working fully with Android, it would provide a good alternative to trying to access our phones' secure elements for card emulation.
This could also have some more practical uses, e.g. for event ticketing on a small scale?
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My thinking was that this sort of thing would be ideal for NFC hacking. The documentation for the ACR122 states that it can do card emulation (but everyone seems to be having trouble with it). If we could somehow get the drivers for the ACR122 working fully with Android, it would provide a good alternative to trying to access our phones' secure elements for card emulation.
This could also have some more practical uses, e.g. for event ticketing on a small scale?
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i some point i agree with you, but i think will be (maybe) simpler to use the ACR122 in pc (mac/winbooze) and transfer it in some Android apps
but at least you are right card emulation it's a problem currently
ACS USB NFC reader
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Have you actually had this working on a tablet? I have tried with a Samsung Galaxy tab 10.1 (2) and the reader is not recognised. Some other readers which have chipsets Samsung support are recognised and show up as an HID. But the ACR122U doesnt appear.
Ted
Basically, ACS released an application called Smart Biz Card that allows you to read and write contact NFC tags with the popular ACR122 connected via USB host. The application is only for tablets, so it will look strange on phone screens, but this can be fixed by entering tablet mode.
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tedhurlock said:
Have you actually had this working on a tablet? I have tried with a Samsung Galaxy tab 10.1 (2) and the reader is not recognised. Some other readers which have chipsets Samsung support are recognised and show up as an HID. But the ACR122U doesnt appear.
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I would guess they are missing the mandatory drivers to use them. Btw, are you sure they are recognized as HID? They actually should be recognized as CCID, if I remember correctly. Can you confirm they actually work?
ACR122 on Galaxy
I have no idea where I would get drivers. ACD who produce the device have only given a lava library for access which seems to use direct USB calls. And it seems to have been broken with ICS.
Tjis Android world looks quite muddy from my first experiences
Damastus said:
I would guess they are missing the mandatory drivers to use them. Btw, are you sure they are recognized as HID? They actually should be recognized as CCID, if I remember correctly. Can you confirm they actually work?
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Can anyone point me in a good direction for getting started working with NFC between an android phone an an arduino? I'm thinking of starting a project using a phone and google authenticator (or similar OTP system) to send the one-time password to an arduino based system via NFC. I only recently bought a NFC capable phone and I've just started playing with NFC tags very recently. I'm very interested in more data I/O applications of NFC, not just having tags perform actions.
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Can anyone point me in a good direction for getting started working with NFC between an android phone an an arduino? I'm thinking of starting a project using a phone and google authenticator (or similar OTP system) to send the one-time password to an arduino based system via NFC. I only recently bought a NFC capable phone and I've just started playing with NFC tags very recently. I'm very interested in more data I/O applications of NFC, not just having tags perform actions.
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You'll want to read up on LLCP (to negotiate the connection) and SNEP (to transfer data). Beam will work for this without an issue. You'll likely have to implement your own firmware for the arduino nfc shield (negotiating the connection via LLCP and sending / receiving data).
I have a 1st generation XBox that only has an Ethernet port. Is there a way to connect it to the Fire TV to get it access to my network through WiFi?
When Ethernet port is plugged in it disables wifi connectivity. after that a bunch more work making wifi the default gateway with routing... if it is possible. . prolly worth your time to just spend the $30 on an adapter for it or install dd-wrt on an old router you have laying around. . I had a similar request where I wanted to know if my firetv can double as a coffee maker but no-one has solved where to put the k-cup.
Its not so much the device in this case that is unfit for the purpose (well - unless it is, as described above.. ) - it is, that the minds that are interested in and forming around solving those problems are working on much better (reputation) and wider known projects - AND the devices they support cost anywhere from 10-30 bucks used already. So dont tell them why you bought a Fire TV instead.
I know that current "technophiles" see the world as app based solutions that will come to them if they ask around often enough - but really, we already are at the minimal knowledge and minimal cost stage - and they are in essence complaining about convenience.
I have a problem - and see the solution in this one ethernet port another device I bought already has. Let the internet work out the rest, I am waiting for my app - its already rooted, how hard could it be.
And thats not how this works.
First of - why should they be working on an app based solution? A functionality layer if you will - if they dont have control over the entire ecosystem and networking, I heard has something to do with security. Sometimes. And with devices that have to work longterm - quite unlike the little plastic box that currently sits under your TV. And that today is rooted but tomorrow might not be - because, well its not yours to decide. Entirely.
dd-wrt and openwrt are what you are looking for - but that was already mentioned by the person posting before me.
I'm just here to explain why the "asking for a service" mindset ultimately breaks, when it comes to open source movements. Especially when your demands get more and more specific. ("I have bought a...")
I can say all this, because I currently use ddwrt to service some of my needs and it works perfectly well, creating all kinds of synergies I actually actively use - many of which actually are real enablers for owners of Android based Kodi boxes.
Well - then again, it might actually work already... (Turn off WLAN in the gui, then enable it via the shell (maybe that way both can be set active at the same time) and start configuring iptables).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444004
But understand that this would be very much a hack. So usability, interfaces, security concerns are not on the forefront of peoples minds. Also - have fun configuring ports that way (ftp mostly I suppose.. ) - if you dont want everything to be open.
Google and 2 minutes - btw.
When you read through the thread you start to recognize - that what you are actually looking for is implementation and support (Hence dd-wrt or openwrt). Also - it becomes very clear why this probably never will become an app (needs root, needs to install a new library (think of stuff only busybox does as a core function on android - this has to be vetted not to cause unexpected problems), still only circumvents Androids core functions (either ethernet OR wlan), isnt fully featured, and most of all - most technically inclined people who actually need the functionality simply buy into the dd-wrt or openwrt ecosystem and its all there already).
So to break it down to a few sentences - if you get a person willing to establish a very specific function for his/her own purpose against prior design on an open source OS, you are golden. But, you wont get them by randomly asking around for help on an internet forum. And dont expect to get entire featuresets or usability options alongside it. If you want those - and you do - go with the communities that are known for solving those problems and buy into the devices/ecosystems they use. 10-30 USD should be well worth it.
But if you are in a hacking state of mind - go for it and make those devices work like you want them to.