I don't wont to trip any counters...
kingo would be the easiest way. install the program on your computer, connect your device, click a couple times, let it do its thing and you'll have instant root. nothing else changes and nothing is lost. there was some bad feedback about the app but its been cleared up since then.
many people have used it.
www.kingoapp.com
rlee008 said:
kingo would be the easiest way. install the program on your computer, connect your device, click a couple times, let it do its thing and you'll have instant root. nothing else changes and nothing is lost. there was some bad feedback about the app but its been cleared up since then.
many people have used it.
www.kingoapp.com
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Seconded. It probably won't even trigger your Knox flag (I have rooted several times with Kingo and my Knox flag is still 0x0)
thompsos said:
Seconded. It probably won't even trigger your Knox flag (I have rooted several times with Kingo and my Knox flag is still 0x0)
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Why would we not want to trigger that, does that make Knox useless? Reason I ask is because I do use this phone for work with an exchange account and have been curious about this. If I use Knox to just try it out will that screw anything up?
ilogik said:
Why would we not want to trigger that, does that make Knox useless? Reason I ask is because I do use this phone for work with an exchange account and have been curious about this. If I use Knox to just try it out will that screw anything up?
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I tripped knox and never looked back I guess I'll figure out what I can do when my jump comes up
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ilogik said:
Why would we not want to trigger that, does that make Knox useless? Reason I ask is because I do use this phone for work with an exchange account and have been curious about this. If I use Knox to just try it out will that screw anything up?
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Tripping KNOX may make the phone incompatible with certain enterprise scenarios. Using kingo wont trip the counter so it shouldnt matter in your case.
ilogik said:
Why would we not want to trigger that, does that make Knox useless? Reason I ask is because I do use this phone for work with an exchange account and have been curious about this. If I use Knox to just try it out will that screw anything up?
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Check out this thread which is linked in the FAQ sticky here.
There is one person claiming Kingo tripped his Knox flag despite MI7, so unless we figure exactly why, I would be careful and maybe wait a little.
pete4k said:
There is one person claiming Kingo tripped his Knox flag despite MI7, so unless we figure exactly why, I would be careful and maybe wait a little.
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I don't know about that other person, but I had the same issue, I'm still on MI7, I used Kingo to rood my Note 3, everything was fine until it asked me to install an app called MtkCamera, which I declined, then Kingo kind of frozed and then it restarted. When I checked the Knox counter it was tripped ...so, I would suggest caution with this.
Well, first of all I would ask why do you want to root to begin with and secondly is that reason more important than using it for work. At least In theory Knox was developed for people like you, who have one phone for work and personal use, by providing secure environment for sensitive data. Even if your job doesn't use Knox yet, they may in the future. If I was doing banking or CC transactions on my phone I would seriously consider Knox as well, albeit I have no idea if it would actually serve it's purpose well. If you just test Knox you would need to download some extra software from Samsung, Samsung is aware of security holes and already patched them in the latest bootloaders, so Knox flag will trip when rooting for sure, so I wouldn't be surprised if those security updates wouldn't be the first downloaded as part of Knox suite, when installing it. So here I would speculate, since I have not tried it myself, that you should either root and take your chances, or use Knox and forget about rooting. I wonder if PTJunkie didn't play with Knox, or somehow manage to get Samsung security update, to get his flag tripped, where others didn't. I actually disabled updates to make sure I don't get any new enhancements from T-mo or Samsung.
If you have used Odin before,
root de la vega is easy.
http://www.android.gs/root-t-mobile...-root-de-la-vega-tool-knox-flags-not-tripped/
I root because i have a lot of apps that required root like titanium explorer and root explorer .
Moreso, I need to freeze all the bloatware like google now and s voice.
Dattack said:
If you have used Odin before,
root de la vega is easy.
http://www.android.gs/root-t-mobile...-root-de-la-vega-tool-knox-flags-not-tripped/
I root because i have a lot of apps that required root like titanium explorer and root explorer .
Moreso, I need to freeze all the bloatware like google now and s voice.
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I have 2 quick questions:
1. root delavega uses att rom, att phones don't have wifi calling, is wifi calling still working as usual on rooted, t-mo phones? or in general Is there anything T-mo specific that breaks after root?
2. I assume bringing the phone back to original would require reflashing original T-mo ROMS? Anything else needs to be flashed?
I haven't flashed back to tmobile stock yet. I still have wifi calling and I make sure to disable my tmobile account because they can tell if you are rooted.
Yeah, when you run that system check, but what can they do? Even if they cared, I'm not sure if they do, if your phone is stock with no flags tripped, I would argue and play stupid if needed return, or repair. Also I wonder if this check could be somehow disabled all by itself, for example by taking away some permissions.
I am apparently one of 3 people who actually use Knox... Is there a way to get root without tripping the Knox counter? There are two methods listed in the One-Stop Shop thread, but it looks like both of them disable Knox. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated!
Edit: Forgot to mention that I am on the latest AT&T OTA (MK6). I have flashed plenty of times before, just trying to keep Knox on this phone since it is fresh from warranty service.
Delete.....
I'm gonna go out on a limb here...and say that the root binary...will be detected by knox....even if the root attempt does not trip the counter...
The rom will detect root and flag you constantly...
And here is the bigger problem in my mind...
If you manage to root...without tripping the knox counter...and you use the device normally...
If/when the day comes you need service....the bootloader flash counter will still show a custom binary flash count even though knox does not...and if you attempt to unroot....you will never be able to return to full stock with the official 4.3 loader....(gasping for air )...LOL
Long story short...
Root and Knox do not get along...and your warranty will be gone even if Knox and it's container remain intact...
Leave it stock...IMHO...g
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Sorry for the noobish question, but I keep hearing about this Knox counter thing on the Root Bounty threads, that people will pay extra if it doesn't trip Knox.
Can someone tell me WHAT Knox is, what it's significance is to the phone and to rooting/flashing?
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Sorry for the noobish question, but I keep hearing about this Knox counter thing on the Root Bounty threads, that people will pay extra if it doesn't trip Knox.
Can someone tell me WHAT Knox is, what it's significance is to the phone and to rooting/flashing?
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I'm not sure... all I know is I learned to fear anything Knox
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Knox is built in security that samsung has created. problem is that when you root, it trips a knox counter so samsung or verizon can simply power the phone into the bootloader and see knox is tripped, and right away know the device is rooted, which voids any warranties.
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jayochs said:
Knox is built in security that samsung has created. problem is that when you root, it trips a knox counter so samsung or verizon can simply power the phone into the bootloader and see knox is tripped, and right away know the device is rooted, which voids any warranties.
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Can Knox be removed somehow? Have other phones with Knox been successfully rooted without tripping it?
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Can Knox be removed somehow? Have other phones with Knox been successfully rooted without tripping it?
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No, knox can not be removed. It also can NOT be reset. Yes, phones have been rooted without tripping knox. I had my Verizon Note 3 rooted and knox was not tripped.
Basically, here's how I explained it to a friend. Think of knox, as a saftey line keeping you from opening your car's hood. Your warranty is fine as long as you don't mess with the engine. You decide to cut that line, and pop the hood. That's tripping knox. If you tried to modify the engine and ended up blowing it up, yeah, you ****ed up! However, if didn't touch the engine, and then later had your car's horn stop working, it doesn't matter. Because you popped the hood, your engine car's warranty is GONE!
I would like to root my tablet that I just picked up today and most likely keep a stock rom that comes with it and just add root to block ads and a few other minor changes to it.
If I do that I know Knox will be tripped as there is not a way to root and not trip Knox.
What features or functions might I loose or should I have any concern about tripping knox on this device?
I know with the S5 if causes the private mode not to work but I am not really concerned with that.
And on the S6 that will most likely cause Samsung Pay not to work.
Would there be any features that stop working after Knox is tripped and device is rooted?
If you don't mind using kingroot you can root without tripping Knox - unless you install xposed or custom recovery. Look for my thread on no tether root in general section.
Hello, after a search on these forums I could not find any topic about my specific problem so here goes.
I purchased a secondhand P605.
When I checked the Knox trigger it said 0x1, which made me wonder if anyone tried to root it before. It is not rooted at the moment, and I am unable to root it because Knox prevents it. I did update it to Lollipop.
So, I took to the Web and tried to disable Knox. This seems impossible, due to the fact that I don't even have permission to enter the Knox container!
Does anyone have any idea how to disable Knox when one doesn't have access to Knox at all?
Thanks in advance.
Airethilien said:
Hello, after a search on these forums I could not find any topic about my specific problem so here goes.
I purchased a secondhand P605.
When I checked the Knox trigger it said 0x1, which made me wonder if anyone tried to root it before. It is not rooted at the moment, and I am unable to root it because Knox prevents it. I did update it to Lollipop.
So, I took to the Web and tried to disable Knox. This seems impossible, due to the fact that I don't even have permission to enter the Knox container!
Does anyone have any idea how to disable Knox when one doesn't have access to Knox at all?
Thanks in advance.
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If you updated to 5.1.1 then you need a modded kernel to root. Install TWRP, then flash new kernel and then flash supersu.
Your P605has definitely been modified either with a kernel or recovery, that's why you have Knox trigger 0x1.
Will try that , thank you.