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Has anybody come up with simpler rooting methods for the Ouya?

The main reason I ask this is because after every firmware update the root/su access disappears. I just wonder if there's some way to make it easier to quickly root again after these updates. I'm not saying having to go into adb to root is a major pain, it just gets tedious to have to do it after every simple update the Ouya gets. I was hoping an internal method of rooting would have been discovered or developed by now.

I would think OTA RootKeeper would work:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper&hl=en

NssOne said:
The main reason I ask this is because after every firmware update the root/su access disappears. I just wonder if there's some way to make it easier to quickly root again after these updates. I'm not saying having to go into adb to root is a major pain, it just gets tedious to have to do it after every simple update the Ouya gets. I was hoping an internal method of rooting would have been discovered or developed by now.
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Probably the easy thing to do is wait for custom rom's to be developed. Currently the one I'm working on has OTA updates redirected to a server in my control, what this would do is stop OTA updates from OUYA and allow us to keep root as long as the ROM supports it.

No, they can't if you keep posting questions in the developer section.

pitcherj said:
I would think OTA RootKeeper would work:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper&hl=en
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No, it wont. OTA rootkeepers work by either setting the immutable bit for the su file so not even root is allowed to modify/delete it from the filesystem, or they leave another suid binary on the filesystem so if su gets borked, their backup one is still there. All the Ouya updates format the /system partition. Neither a file with the immutable bit set or a backup suid binary would survive if they were on the /system partition.

gianptune,
Ah, I see.
Well, it was a thought anyway.
pitcherj

You could make an update zip that only flashes the su binary that you want.

Could always write a quick batch file or script that would automatically do the steps. Probably someone that knows more than I do that would have a better way of doing it, but that was my thought after seeing the update come down today.
If i put something together & anyone is interested i'll post it just so it will be a quick file to run after each update (I have my OUYA right next to my computer so it's always connected via USB).

I'm working on an all-in-one su/recovery/wifi adb/backup program right now.
Hold tight.

foil said:
I'm working on an all-in-one su/recovery/wifi adb/backup program right now.
Hold tight.
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Same here. I've already done a little script for wired and wireless sideloading, now im trying to add rooting into it.
Although by the time i figure out how to implement the adb shell su commands into a batch script, theyll be releasing OUYA2.

dully79 said:
Same here. I've already done a little script for wired and wireless sideloading, now im trying to add rooting into it.
Although by the time i figure out how to implement the adb shell su commands into a batch script, theyll be releasing OUYA2.
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Keep trying! I know it's silly, but it is so annoying too have to keep doing this.
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TadeoNYC said:
Keep trying! I know it's silly, but it is so annoying too have to keep doing this.
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Ive figured it out it.
i was using
Code:
adb shell su "<command>"
instead of
Code:
adb shell "su <command>"
Ill update my script shortly after ive added a couple more options.

Root

http://download.chainfire.eu/631/CF-Root1/Root-Nexus-Player-fugu.zip

Thanks. Looks to have worked flawlessly.

Works great! Thanks!

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http://download.chainfire.eu/631/CF-Root1/Root-Nexus-Player-fugu.zip
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Works great. As a thank you I used my play credit from the NP Promo to upgrade to SuperSU Pro. hopefully you see that money!

Chainfire said:
http://download.chainfire.eu/631/CF-Root1/Root-Nexus-Player-fugu.zip
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Thank you. Simplest root evar I will also buy SU Pro

Worked perfectly, of course. Thanks as always.

Just saw this today but had already used the other root method here to get it. Either way, thanks for all the hard work you do on everything

Chainfire said:
http://download.chainfire.eu/631/CF-Root1/Root-Nexus-Player-fugu.zip
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Is this assured to work with both LRX21M and LRX21V?

Worked perfectly, and now StickMount is working too. Just played a video off USB in XBMC.

Does anyone know a way to remove the su app from showing in the leanback launcher. Can't find it in the settings anywhere.

Pardon my ignorance, but what does this do exactly? ...aside from the obvious "gives you root"...I mean how, what does it do to the system?

Boblank said:
Does anyone know a way to remove the su app from showing in the leanback launcher. Can't find it in the settings anywhere.
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Well be in next version, if you set icon to invisible, it will also disappear from leanback launcher.

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volwrath said:
Thank you. Simplest root evar I will also buy SU Pro
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Do you just download to phone or PC and put the extraction on the Nexus Player to gain root?

Boblank said:
Does anyone know a way to remove the su app from showing in the leanback launcher. Cant find it in the settings anywhere.
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Are you referring to the launcher settings or SuperSU settings there should be an option in SuperSU settings to set the SuperSU icon to invisible.

I just happened to check my system today and had the OTA update from LRX21M to LRX21V waiting. I tried installing it but Recovery stopped halfway through the install with an Error. I got back into Android with a power-cycle, so things are fine, but it's still on 21M.
I'm guessing this was due to having rooted the device. Is there a proper way to remove SuperSU to allow for a system update? I see there are 3 different options for cleaning up; does it particularly matter which one I choose? I could just pick one and try it but I'm kind of curious what the differences are between the options. Anybody know?

Update: I tried the second and third cleanup options (new superuser app and full unroot) and neither got me into a state where the OTA was successful. So I just downloaded the factory image and flashed the system.img from it, then reapplied the original root process.

xBIGREDDx said:
Update: I tried the second and third cleanup options (new superuser app and full unroot) and neither got me into a state where the OTA was successful. So I just downloaded the factory image and flashed the system.img from it, then reapplied the original root process.
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probably a full unroot and flashing the stock boot.img would fully unroot, I wonder when LRX22C (5.0.1) will hit the nexus player

The root is fundamental in all devices for many things, and thanks to Chainfire and others independent developers we can consider Android a semi-open platform. (semi-open because not all is open source)
We don't want Android like the Apple walled garden, but we are not even against the sale of the software, we just want a common garden in which the user can choose and is not obliged.
For example with the root, it was easier to start this project:
Nexus Player with a Full Version of Android Lollipop https://plus.google.com/103019026671039069038/posts/V5XaLxK3vN8
This is just the base rom with all hardware components working, on this base that is very usable, i want add many other options. like external usb webcam and mic, improving the audio part that have fixed volume and many other things useful for the use in TV.
Nexus Player is not just Android TV, but is the first Nexus device with an intel cpu. Is a milestone in the evolution of Android.
This is just the start and I am very open to sharing and collaboration on this project.
Thanks Chainfire for the root and for your "How-To SU" guidelines.

Out of interest will rooting prevent OTA updates from installing in the future?

Chainfire said:
Well be in next version, if you set icon to invisible, it will also disappear from leanback launcher.
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I did this, despite the warning it gave me. Now although I still get permission dialogs etc, I can not run the main program to delete apps etc from SU access. Is there anyway to go back to the main screen? I went to the apps sections of the NP and unlike other apps it didnt have an open command.
To get it back do I need to uninstall and then re-CFroot?
Thanks. I should pay better attention to dialog boxes but its not a huge deal.

Is there a way to install google play store on rooted fire tv without adb?

Just as the title dictates. I am trying to walk a friend through installing google play on his rooted fire tv, I emailed him all the necessary files and he installed via es file explorer which apprently did not work as it just gives him a white screen. Is this only able to function if it is installed via adb?

Did you guide him through the xposed framework installation as well?

Yes

danknasty, maybe have your friend read the guide. Why would you not use Adb? and you have to install the xposed framework along with the module for google play to function. And to top it off to make it work perfectly fine, you need to use market helper 2.0 beta.

navigates said:
danknasty, maybe have your friend read the guide. Why would you not use Adb? and you have to install the xposed framework along with the module for google play to function. And to top it off to make it work perfectly fine, you need to use market helper 2.0 beta.
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Yea it's an older person so i was trying to make it as "friendly" as possible. He's able to navigate within es file explorer and can stick a usb stick in... adb fire i just feel is gonna be a lengthier and more difficult talk but it may come to that. I have recently installed it via es file explorer myself jsut to test and it seems to work fine so ill have him give it go.

danknasty said:
Yea it's an older person so i was trying to make it as "friendly" as possible. He's able to navigate within es file explorer and can stick a usb stick in... adb fire i just feel is gonna be a lengthier and more difficult talk but it may come to that. I have recently installed it via es file explorer myself jsut to test and it seems to work fine so ill have him give it go.
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You mentioned Rooted. i have a solution for you. Get him to install quicksupport and start it up. Then use teamviewer on your home pc and connect to it using the number quick support generates. Note: the first time the person will have to accept access to root privs. From that point on you'll have full control of his firetv from your PC. I do that all the time for my parents who live remotely.
I also connect to their PC so I have their PC and their firetv and can do adb install or what ever I need. Hope it helps.

navigates said:
You mentioned Rooted. i have a solution for you. Get him to install quicksupport and start it up. Then use teamviewer on your home pc and connect to it using the number quick support generates. Note: the first time the person will have to accept access to root privs. From that point on you'll have full control of his firetv from your PC. I do that all the time for my parents who live remotely.
I also connect to their PC so I have their PC and their firetv and can do adb install or what ever I need. Hope it helps.
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I actually just sent over the team viewer apk. Seems pretty cool can you transfer files with that as well.

danknasty said:
I actually just sent over the team viewer apk. Seems pretty cool can you transfer files with that as well.
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Yeah,. and if he is rooted and has google play which he dosen't as thats what you are trying to install. Then you could install it for him automatically through google any app he needs. Good luck. Let us know how it goes.
One other thing to note is that if he gets the prompt for root grant, you know there is a timer of 15 seconds and he has to accept it in that time. I know i have a hard time explaining that too to my parents.

Thanks I think I lucked out and they hit the permanent root grant option on the unit.

danknasty said:
Thanks I think I lucked out and they hit the permanent root grant option on the unit.
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Is there a permanent root option with the newer firmwares? I didn't know. At least not with supersu. The permanent option used to exist in the older rooted firmwares. The new ones' have to select grant everytime root is requested.

navigates said:
Is there a permanent root option with the newer firmwares? I didn't know. At least not with supersu. The permanent option used to exist in the older rooted firmwares. The new ones' have to select grant everytime root is requested.
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If you select the permanent option when you first root I believe it transfers over. When you update it. That was my understanding correct me if I'm wrong.

danknasty said:
If you select the permanent option when you first root I believe it transfers over. When you update it. That was my understanding correct me if I'm wrong.
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I've done so many roots and have never seen that option. The older firmwares with towelroot had it that way. but when you upgrade from those rooted versions to the new one, you have to constantly grant.

Are you talking about units you've hardware rooted? I just did one not so long ago and in the supersu program there is a choice that says grant always. After upgrade to the latest firmware it still remains.

danknasty said:
Are you talking about units you've hardware rooted? I just did one not so long ago and in the supersu program there is a choice that says grant always. After upgrade to the latest firmware it still remains.
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No. I've never done hardware roots. just the software roots with the ethernet removal trick if you get the right firmware.

navigates said:
danknasty, maybe have your friend read the guide. Why would you not use Adb? and you have to install the xposed framework along with the module for google play to function. And to top it off to make it work perfectly fine, you need to use market helper 2.0 beta.
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Can you provide a link to the guide?

lonny.landry said:
Can you provide a link to the guide?
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Here:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=google+play+aftv+guide

How to get rid of "fire quick start" app???

Is there a way to get rid of this quick start app?
Cheers
Charlie.

On an unrooted device (I assume your device is not modified at all):
- Go to "settings" and look for "Applications'' / "manage applications", select "all", to see every app installed...
- Disable the "Quick Start" app

What does the Fire Quick Start App do?
Does anyone know if there is a run down of all the pre-installed Fire Apps, what they do, and if they're safe to disable?

DePingus said:
What does the Fire Quick Start App do?
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Quick Start (com.amazon.quickstart.apk) - The tutorial that can be watched at first setup and everytime you re-install the OS, can launch the "try Amazon prime" app and the "Amazon retail demo".
DePingus said:
Does anyone know if there is a run down of all the pre-installed Fire Apps, what they do, and if they're safe to disable?
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It's not perfect... but take a look at it: Fire OS App List / Debloat / Factory Images
A few people said it "almost broke their phone", while I had zero problems, go figure...

Bingo Bronson said:
It's not perfect... but take a look at it: Fire OS App List / Debloat / Factory Images
A few people said it "almost broke their phone", while I had zero problems, go figure...
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That's exactly what I was looking for! Thanks!

Kingroot - how to remove it from my AFTV?

Hi.
In the past few month, I have used my AFTV to watch KODI streams.
Now, I have decided to root it ( for USB inputs enablement ).
Problem now, The streams cut off after 20-25 minutes.
one post told me to remove KINGROOT.
I tried to follow youtube regular tutorials, with no help.
I have connected a USB mouse in order to have "free hand" - kingroot options are still don't seems to work.
http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=264089
http://freeandroidroot.com/how-to-uninstall-kinguser-and-unroot-your-android-device/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf2eMZV1OaQ
any help would be grateful

tobenary said:
Hi.
In the past few month, I have used my AFTV to watch KODI streams.
Now, I have decided to root it ( for USB inputs enablement ).
Problem now, The streams cut off after 20-25 minutes.
one post told me to remove KINGROOT.
I tried to follow youtube regular tutorials, with no help.
I have connected a USB mouse in order to have "free hand" - kingroot options are still don't seems to work.
http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=264089
http://freeandroidroot.com/how-to-uninstall-kinguser-and-unroot-your-android-device/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf2eMZV1OaQ
any help would be grateful
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What version of Kingroot have you used? Removal is under settings (top right hand corner):
V4.1
1. Open KingUser and enter "Settings" menu ( top right of home screen)
2. Enter "Root authorization setting " (second one)
3. You can find "Remove Root permission" option (fourth one)
4. Click it, and KingUser will be removed automatically
V4.8
1. Open KingUser and enter "Sittings" menu ( top right of home screen)
2. You can find "Uninstall" option.
3. Click it, and KingUser will be removed automatically

bula1ca said:
What version of Kingroot have you used? Removal is under settings (top right hand corner):
V4.1
1. Open KingUser and enter "Settings" menu ( top right of home screen)
2. Enter "Root authorization setting " (second one)
3. You can find "Remove Root permission" option (fourth one)
4. Click it, and KingUser will be removed automatically
V4.8
1. Open KingUser and enter "Sittings" menu ( top right of home screen)
2. You can find "Uninstall" option.
3. Click it, and KingUser will be removed automatically
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whatever bloat kingroot has added to it, I'm sure the ability to remove more bloat is there with root.

I cannot press the "Setting" button

tobenary said:
I cannot press the "Setting" button
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download wukong remote, that is what I used

download wukong remote, that is what I used
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Thanks, will try it.
BUT, a regular USB mouse is not enough?

tobenary said:
Thanks, will try it.
BUT, a regular USB mouse is not enough?
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It will not work.

I have not tried kingroot on my stick. However this replaced kingroot with superuser on my ForgeTV
http://www.w0lfdroid.com/2015/05/How-to-Remove-Replace-KingUser-KingRoot-with-SuperSU.html?m=1
Edit: resist temptation, don't try this. May brick device like supersume

goodhur said:
I have not tried kingroot on my stick. However this replaced kingroot with superuser on my ForgeTV
http://www.w0lfdroid.com/2015/05/How-to-Remove-Replace-KingUser-KingRoot-with-SuperSU.html?m=1
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Not sure about this method but replacing kingroot with supersume causes brick.

goodhur said:
I have not tried kingroot on my stick. However this replaced kingroot with superuser on my ForgeTV
http://www.w0lfdroid.com/2015/05/How-to-Remove-Replace-KingUser-KingRoot-with-SuperSU.html?m=1
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I would not try this & like Bula1ca says below alot of people who tried this method have bricked after the first reboot of there device
bula1ca said:
Not sure about this method but replacing kingroot with supersume causes brick.
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deanr1977 said:
I would not try this & like Bula1ca says below alot of people who tried this method have bricked after the first reboot of there device
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Agreed. I didn't know they were bricking, sorry. I would guess they use a similar strategy to delete Kingroot. So it would probably end the same way. If a recovery is in the works I'd wait.

goodhur said:
Agreed. I didn't know they were bricking, sorry. I would guess they use a similar strategy to delete Kingroot. So it would probably end the same way. If a recovery is in the works I'd wait.
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Goodhur plenty have bricked using this on xda, it would be a good idea not to say use this if you haven't used yourself. Even some had said yes It works then later rebooted there device for the first time & posted back again saying I've bricked now.... How do I get out off it? No matter anyway Goodhur, no harm done
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Worked like a charm...

tobenary said:
Worked like a charm...
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And that is?

problems solved with the 20-25 min crashing

tobenary said:
problems solved with the 20-25 min crashing
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I was going absolutely nuts trying to figure out why my build was crashing on my sticks and not my FireTVs.
Going to remove root if I can and test to see if **** is still crashing on the sticks...
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Ok so using 4.8.1 if you didn't enable the protect root optimize feature this works.
If you did the optimize under 4.8.1 I'm not seeing a way to relaunch the app to remove it. It only says Force Stop, Clear Cache, and Clear Data under Kingroot for Applications.
Any ideas?

Ewle said:
I was going absolutely nuts trying to figure out why my build was crashing on my sticks and not my FireTVs.
Going to remove root if I can and test to see if **** is still crashing on the sticks...
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Ok so using 4.8.1 if you didn't enable the protect root optimize feature this works.
If you did the optimize under 4.8.1 I'm not seeing a way to relaunch the app to remove it. It only says Force Stop, Clear Cache, and Clear Data under Kingroot for Applications.
Any ideas?
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On my firestick kingroot tried downloading the newest version.... I just deleted the apk
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su
ps
kill <PID # for com.kingroot.kinguser:service>
kill <PID # for /data/data-lib/com.kingroot.kinguser/ktools>
pm disable com.kingroot.kinguser
pm uninstall com.kingroot.kinguser
Pretty much kills it!

Ewle said:
su
ps
kill
kill
pm disable com.kingroot.kinguser
pm uninstall com.kingroot.kinguser
Pretty much kills it!
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Do you still have root afterwards? Or does this just disable/kill kingroot? & don't get the crashes anymore?
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su
ps
kill
kill
pm disable com.kingroot.kinguser
If I used these would it still have su but kingroot would not update & also wouldn't crash?
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deanr1977 said:
Do you still have root afterwards? Or does this just disable/kill kingroot? & don't get the crashes anymore?
Edit-
su
ps
kill
kill
pm disable com.kingroot.kinguser
If I used these would it still have su but kingroot would not update & also wouldn't crash?
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Nope root is gone after the disable. The uninstall is just clean up. But remember you've already disabled amazon updates so you can always kingroot again if desired.