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Hi All,
I am quite disappointed with how things turn out at Google I/O event regarding Google announcement of Galaxy S4 device.
First there is nothing wrong with Galaxy S4 but in my country there are no I9505 (Snapdragon variant) available. I 'assume' this to be the device that Google intend to support since it is available in the US. This kinda turn me off purchasing S4. Not sure how many people really care about this but for me it is a deal breaker and I am for one will not purchase S4 octacore device.
I was hoping to upgrade my Galaxy Nexus, not that it urgently needed upgrading, since it is still fast and very usable especially with my current Rom/Kernel setup (Purity 5.4.1 + AK latest nightly) but I was hoping for something with longer battery life. HTC One / Xperia z/ S4 all clocked it at around 3-4+ hours of heavy usage, that is only slightly better than my current GN.
How do you guys feel. Has Google made the right decision to partner with Samsung and not releasing a new device this year?
kcharng said:
Hi All,
I am quite disappointed with how things turn out at Google I/O event regarding Google announcement of Galaxy S4 device.
First there is nothing wrong with Galaxy S4 but in my country there are no I9505 (Snapdragon variant) available. I 'assume' this to be the device that Google intend to support since it is available in the US. This kinda turn me off purchasing S4. Not sure how many people really care about this but for me it is a deal breaker and I am for one will not purchase S4 octacore device.
I was hoping to upgrade my Galaxy Nexus, not that it urgently needed upgrading, since it is still fast and very usable especially with my current Rom/Kernel setup (Purity 5.4.1 + AK latest nightly) but I was hoping for something with longer battery life. HTC One / Xperia z/ S4 all clocked it at around 3-4+ hours of heavy usage, that is only slightly better than my current GN.
How do you guys feel. Has Google made the right decision to partner with Samsung and not releasing a new device this year?
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Nexus 5 is impossible, look at past trends.
And the s4 ge is not a nexus device, it's just AOSP supported..
Correct me if I'm wrong..
What is expected is a updated nexus 7, which did not come out as of today, there is still 2 days of I/o, who knows what will happen..
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I don't think this year's Nexus is functionally the S4. I'm guessing that a real Nexus will come out this year. It's just that the S4 will also run AOSP, unlike what the S line has done in the past. Nexus phones usually come out later in the year. I was kind of expecting a 2nd generation Nexus 7, but oh well.
IO had updates to a lot of existing apps. Hangouts was a little lackluster, but the Books and Music apps got big updates, and it looks like the Maps app will get one soon. And there's the new IDE and the Games framework might be quite nice. So I'm actually not all that disappointed.
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I don't think this year's Nexus is functionally the S4. I'm guessing that a real Nexus will come out this year. It's just that the S4 will also run AOSP, unlike what the S line has done in the past. Nexus phones usually come out later in the year. I was kind of expecting a 2nd generation Nexus 7, but oh well.
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Bingo.:good:
kcharng said:
I was hoping for something with longer battery life. HTC One / Xperia z/ S4 all clocked it at around 3-4+ hours of heavy usage, that is only slightly better than my current GN.
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Me and you both. I'm leaning towards the Note3 unless a better option is available by September.
Just like the g1, ogdroid, hero, g2, g2x, and maybe 1 or 2 other Verizon droid phones....pure Google s4....nothing new to see here.. #stillnotanexus
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the only good things is the S4 with stock android
this the only stock android with expandable memory
hoping for the specs will be the same as the original s4
1080p,13mp octa or snapdragon 600/800 will be very very fast device
this device will probably run 2years or more
If they had a new device to announce they need a new version of android. And if there was a new one they would do it at the highlight keynote. Not during the workshops.
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There's actually something bigger than a new Android version or device in this I/O.
They improve the rest except those I mentioned above.
I actually hoping for the next Android version.
And I'm still hoping they'll surprise us in the middle of another event. Hahaha. This is a silly hope, but who knows?
elnitrox said:
the only good things is the S4 with stock android
this the only stock android with expandable memory
hoping for the specs will be the same as the original s4
1080p,13mp octa or snapdragon 600/800 will be very very fast device
this device will probably run 2years or more
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Nexus/Google Dev devices before the Nexus S have expandable storage.
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Nexus/Google Dev devices before the Nexus S have expandable storage.
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And those devices (Nexus 1) had practically very very small amount of usable space for apps anyway. I don't see this as a valid argument.
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And those devices (Nexus 1) had practically very very small amount of usable space for apps anyway. I don't see this as a valid argument.
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Ntm who's going to run out and buy a legacy device lol
I've been waiting for I/O to see what I want to do about my upgrade. I've been eligible for one since last August. Currently on Verizon so I was also hoping for a cdma nexus 5 or something. Not really into the S4. I mean it's nice, but the price tag is a little high for me personally. I get paid the day after tomorrow and I'm seriously considering picking up a Google nexus 4 on a straight talk plan. Then again if they do announce something new (maybe even later this year?) Like a new CDMA nexus I will be pretty upset I cancelled and lost my grandfathered unlimited data.
I love my gnex, but playing newer games or heavy multitasking, you kinda realize how old it is.... What do you guys think?
Why would anyone in their right mind expect a nexus 5 at I/o every nexus phone to date has been released in October, and it is still only 6 months since the nexus 4 was released.
I was, however, a little disappointed not to see a nexus 7 upgrade and android 4.3, but given all the leaks, it seams 4.3 simply got delayed and we'll probably see it at some point this summer.
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Ntm who's going to run out and buy a legacy device lol
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I would say that depends heavily on if you're a collector of all things Google or not
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RoyJ said:
I've been waiting for I/O to see what I want to do about my upgrade. I've been eligible for one since last August. Currently on Verizon so I was also hoping for a cdma nexus 5 or something. Not really into the S4. I mean it's nice, but the price tag is a little high for me personally. I get paid the day after tomorrow and I'm seriously considering picking up a Google nexus 4 on a straight talk plan. Then again if they do announce something new (maybe even later this year?) Like a new CDMA nexus I will be pretty upset I cancelled and lost my grandfathered unlimited data.
I love my gnex, but playing newer games or heavy multitasking, you kinda realize how old it is.... What do you guys think?
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Hang in there. There's still hope Motorola will come through with something unlocked, stock, and hot for all carriers. And no, I'm not talking about the XFON, that was revealed to have mid-grade specs. Perhaps it's big brother though, which is rumored to be launching for all carriers with similar specs to that of the newer super phones.
I'm in the same boat as you, have been sitting on my upgrade since December hoping for some news or acknowledgement of things for come for our CDMA network...
#FingersCrossed
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Saw some speculation on Android Central that Google may be moving in the direction of annual update cycles now that Android has achieved a degree of maturity and polish. I am a little dubious. Part of what has made Android great up to this point has been the fact that we don't have to wait a year for updates. Two or three updates annually keeps things fresh. I would speculate that it also helps to keep the development community involved since there is always a new challenge to be tackled, but not necessarily at the expense of all of the hard work that went into the previous iteration. Just my 2ยข.
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And those devices (Nexus 1) had practically very very small amount of usable space for apps anyway. I don't see this as a valid argument.
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There is no arguments over here, just correcting misinformation. Unless you are trying to tell me Nexus One is not a nexus device, then fine.
Beamed from my Maguro.
It was a pretty blah I/O from our consumer standpoint. It looks decent from a Developer one.
I wanted to see a N5 and updated tablets also. The S4 at $650 does not interest me at all. My GN can still do everything I want it to well.
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It was a pretty blah I/O from our consumer standpoint. It looks decent from a Developer one.
I wanted to see a N5 and updated tablets also. The S4 at $650 does not interest me at all. My GN can still do everything I want it to well.
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The s4 costs $848 here so consider yourself lucky you get it for $650, i don't think s4 will outsell iPhone 5 at that price, well at least not off contract, s4 looks just like my friends s3 an its already been said that its a measly upgrade from the s3 an not worth upgrading to s4 if you already own a s3, kind of like gnex to lg n4 , if your looking for something completely new i suggest waiting out for the next nexus an hoping it delivers
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The s4 costs $848 here so consider yourself lucky you get it for $650, i don't think s4 will outsell iPhone 5 at that price, well at least not off contract, s4 looks just like my friends s3 an its already been said that its a measly upgrade from the s3 an not worth upgrading to s4 if you already own a s3, kind of like gnex to lg n4 , if your looking for something completely new i suggest waiting out for the next nexus an hoping it delivers
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The S3 to S4 is a fairly large upgrade compared to the GNEX to N4. The S4 improved on virtually every aspect of the device and even shrunk the dimensions while increasing the screen size. They improved the screen, battery, camera, processor, GPU, ergonomics and added features. How is that a measly upgrade...?
I find it hard to understand that people want a complete overhaul of the devices looks in order for it be considered an "upgrade".
If they were to radically change up the overall look of the S5 people would make a million threads *****ing about the changes...
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Hi everybody,
I am entering uni soon (engineering major) and I need a device to write quick notes and equations I know the note series are perfect for that.
But the question is should I wait for note 3 or buy note 2
(I can wait, but if you encourage me to buy the note 2 I will buy it)
P.s- my course starts at 15 september
You will not be disappointed with the Note 2. It depends on your financial situation I guess. The Note 2 can be had for quite a reasonable price at the moment, and the Note 3 will be considerably more expensive at release. It's also not likely to be readily available by the time you start your course.
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My suggestion if you can shell out money wait for note 3 initially it would b expensive thats y.
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Note 3 is going to have a bigger screen between 5.7 to 5.9, release date is rumoured as August end or Oct. Its going to be a octacore with 3gig ram so definetly going to be expensive. If note takin is your objective go for Note 8.
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Note8.0 is better choice.
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If you primarily want the thing for writing notes, then get the Note 2 now. The Note 3 won't be any better at "writing notes". Save your money, you won't regret it.
Note 2 is still a damn good valid device! It's not old or slow or anything.
Note 3 will be better, as usual, but with that comes a hefty price tag.
Note 8 is larger and is probably better suited for note taking as the Note 2 / 3 are primarily phones and then pen oriented. So while they can take notes VERY well, to use it as a note taking device? I don't know... I would rather have a dedicated device to take notes at the university. Plus 5.5 inches isn't too much space to be taking notes...
Depends. If you really need a phone. Go for it. But if you can wait a few more months, wait for Note III. I just bought a Note II a couple of days ago and I'm really happy with it.
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Depends. If you really need a phone. Go for it. But if you can wait a few more months, wait for Note III. I just bought a Note II a couple of days ago and I'm really happy with it.
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I think it would be four month at least until he get an opportunity to put hands on Samsung Galaxy Note 3. Depends from the country he is living.....
So, I agree with you. If you need a phone just go and buy. Note 2 still a GREAT, GREAT superphone.
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Thealshear said:
Hi everybody,
I am entering uni soon (engineering major) and I need a device to write quick notes and equations I know the note series are perfect for that.
But the question is should I wait for note 3 or buy note 2
(I can wait, but if you encourage me to buy the note 2 I will buy it)
P.s- my course starts at 15 september
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You will not be able to put hands on Samsung Galaxy Note 3 when your course stars at 15th of September. Moreover, it would be very pricey when they start selling Note 3 in October or November.
So, if you have money go and buy Note 2. Still a great superphone.
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I don't think the Note 2 will be outdated for a while. And for the price it is now, with all the advantages like screen size, stylus, massive battery and speedy performance, it's a no brainer. Go for it.
I'm actually in the same situation. Got an s2 but wanna upgrade to Note. But I'm in Australia and may be very late in year before it comes out. So I think the Note 2 is more value for money at this stage.
Does anyone know if it's worth getting the Note 2 NT 7105 LTE model rather than 7100? Thanks too
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Just went for the note 2 myself, it is proven to be reliable and great!
mrtzong said:
I'm actually in the same situation. Got an s2 but wanna upgrade to Note. But I'm in Australia and may be very late in year before it comes out. So I think the Note 2 is more value for money at this stage.
Does anyone know if it's worth getting the Note 2 NT 7105 LTE model rather than 7100? Thanks too
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I considered the same question, and decided against the LTE version. For one, I'm not out and about downloading heavily. The non-LTE Note 2 I have has Speedtested at around 14mbps at times, which is plenty for me. And being a tinkerer, the 3G version has FAR more ROMS and kernels available than the LTE version.
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I considered the same question, and decided against the LTE version. For one, I'm not out and about downloading heavily. The non-LTE Note 2 I have has Speedtested at around 14mbps at times, which is plenty for me. And being a tinkerer, the 3G version has FAR more ROMS and kernels available than the LTE version.
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Yeah thanks for that advice. I'm a little of a tinkerer too and am erring towards the non LTE version. Any good and stable rom suggestions?
mrtzong said:
Yeah thanks for that advice. I'm a little of a tinkerer too and am erring towards the non LTE version. Any good and stable rom suggestions?
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Try em all and decide, 'good' differs from person to person Nandroid is great for that.
Probably the biggest decision is going with a Touchwiz/Samsung based ROM, or an AOSP based ROM. There are pros and cons of each type (specifically stylus and multi-window functions related to framework changes). A quick search on this subforum will net you all the information you need.
I tried a bunch of TW ones, and a bunch of AOSP ones, and settled on Slimbean. Simple and functional, with very minimal memory/space overhead, a bit how I've setup my PC (using XFCE). Good luck with it all.
SenK9 said:
Try em all and decide, 'good' differs from person to person Nandroid is great for that.
Probably the biggest decision is going with a Touchwiz/Samsung based ROM, or an AOSP based ROM. There are pros and cons of each type (specifically stylus and multi-window functions related to framework changes). A quick search on this subforum will net you all the information you need.
I tried a bunch of TW ones, and a bunch of AOSP ones, and settled on Slimbean. Simple and functional, with very minimal memory/space overhead, a bit how I've setup my PC (using XFCE). Good luck with it all.
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Yeah thanks. My main reason of upgrading from the galaxy s2 is for the stylus and note taking etc. So I'll have a look around
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mrtzong said:
I'm actually in the same situation. Got an s2 but wanna upgrade to Note. But I'm in Australia and may be very late in year before it comes out. So I think the Note 2 is more value for money at this stage.
Does anyone know if it's worth getting the Note 2 NT 7105 LTE model rather than 7100? Thanks too
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Think you made a good call there mate. The Note 3 will be expensive until some point midway through next year and the N7100 is still one of the best devices out there.
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In India. . There is a smart upgrade offer. .. easily can save 10000 rupees .. (I bought for 36000.rupees 8 months back. ....now note 2 is available for 26000 rupees if you exchange with an old phone)
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I have been thinking about getting the s5 since I am on the jump program but I'm not so sure it's a better phone than my note 3.
Do you guys have any good reasons to switch or not switch ?
I'm in the same boat, I can jump in a week and am looking at both those same phones.
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I'm thinking the new Sony
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Exfex21 said:
I have been thinking about getting the s5 since I am on the jump program but I'm not so sure it's a better phone than my note 3.
Do you guys have any good reasons to switch or not switch ?
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The S5 is not an upgrade from our device at all, less RAM, slightly better CPU, not enough of an upgrade to jump to that device. now if you were on a s3 then yeah it would be.
None of these newer phones have any must have features or much improved specs compared to the note 3. Depending on how much improved the note 4 is to the note 3 (majorly looking at larger internal storage options and hopefully android 4.5 or 5.0) I might even just wait til note 5 comes out. The note 3 is still "the real phone" to contend with and has lots of staying power.
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Yea no other device holds my interest besides the note 4. Unless the next nexus device is made by Samsung. Hell even a better idea, Google should make the note devices their nexus devices. Killer specs for eons. Here's to hopes and dreams
The Note 3 is my last Samsung phone for a while. The S5 looks great but it'll be KNOXed and the device tree will lag phone release by many months due to Samsung's anti-developer stance, we'll be fighting Samsung for any progress at all. So despite the best 5" display in a phone and huge battery it's only for the TW crowd.
OTOH HTC's M8 comes in developer edition, no bootloader lock, has prob 80% as good display, sdcard like Samsung, and far better camera too. They don't hate developers iirc. I'd rather support HTC esp considering none of these are cheap hardware.
If you have a Note 3 keep it and enjoy the best phone. If you have a S4 then upgrade to M8. S5 isn't worth it.
The 'All New' HTC One doesn't look as nice as the old one, in my opinion. The original One looked classy, this one just looks kinda regular. Also, the specs really aren't better than even the Note 3, let alone the upcoming Note 4.
As for the S5 (and the One), I don't think I could ever go back to a phone that small. My last phone was the original Note, and now with the Note 3, i've kind of settled into jolly green giant territory and will never leave.
If The next Nexus device were at least 5.5", I might be tempted to switch, but i'm not sure. Probably not gonna happen though.
No newly released, soon to be released, or later this year appears better than my Note 3. Only a Note 4 can make me upgrade at this time.
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Concur... nothing interests me... my Note 3 works great.
HTC will never be in these hands. They suck
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HTC will never be in these hands. They suck
TWEAKED N3
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I dunno man, if they bring a "max" version of it out I might think about it.
S5 is like am S4+. Htc one the camera sucks. I'll be honest, if the One had a better camera I might have just gotten it. But now I'm just going to wait for the Note 4.
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HTC are for women they make "maxi" pads.
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Galaxy s5
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Limeybastard said:
I dunno man, if they bring a "max" version of it out I might think about it.
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I was looking at HTC one m8. Looks sexy but a 4megapixel camera. Really? I just dunno what they was thinking. The max looks nice but let's see how the screw us over.
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I also am eligible for an upgrade on the Jump plan next week.
The only current phone that interests me is the Sony Z2, and it does not look like TMO will get it soon, if at all.
Kind of hate to "waste" the 6 month Jump. May just get the S5, then I'll have another free upgrade in time for the Note 4.
BTW, I confirmed with TMO that if you have the legacy 6 month Jump upgrade program, you will continue to be eligible to upgrade every 6 months for as long as you have Jump.
Not sure yet what I will do next week....
I think I'll buy it but still keep my note 3.
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I also am eligible for an upgrade on the Jump plan next week.
The only current phone that interests me is the Sony Z2, and it does not look like TMO will get it soon, if at all.
Kind of hate to "waste" the 6 month Jump. May just get the S5, then I'll have another free upgrade in time for the Note 4.
BTW, I confirmed with TMO that if you have the legacy 6 month Jump upgrade program, you will continue to be eligible to upgrade every 6 months for as long as you have Jump.
Not sure yet what I will do next week....
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This. The whole reason I got jump was to jump around and try different phones. I will probably get the m8. If I don't like it,no big deal I will jump again in 6 months to the note 4 or nexus.
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dipole said:
This. The whole reason I got jump was to jump around and try different phones. I will probably get the m8. If I don't like it,no big deal I will jump again in 6 months to the note 4 or nexus.
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I thought the same thing. If we're paying for jump, we should at least use it. I'm jumping to the M8. Seems nice. Then, maybe the Note 4. But if they increase the size on the new note by a lot, don't think I'll get it. Note 2 was big enough, note 3 is bare able. A bigger version would be to much for me
When are we expecting this to drop for our device? Ready for our device to be more snappy as my old n5 with 5.0 is much faster than my Note 4.
Is there going to be an development for this device in time? I know it is tough for some Devs to get their hands on these phones so I didn't know if that was why there is basically nothing, or if there is some other reason.
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When are we expecting this to drop for our device? Ready for our device to be more snappy as my old n5 with 5.0 is much faster than my Note 4.
Is there going to be an development for this device in time? I know it is tough for some Devs to get their hands on these phones so I didn't know if that was why there is basically nothing, or if there is some other reason.
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I haven't been keeping up with Lolipop release dates or anything so I couldn't say when that will come out. But I look forward to it... I hope. LOL
There's several reasons for the lack of dev's for our Sprint Note 4 and that has been discussed already here in the forum. The speed difference between the Note 4 and the Nexus 5 could very well be due to the lack of software overlay and features on the Nexus device compared to the Note 4 which leaves plenty of processing/memory resources available to run a much lighter software. This is a given. But in reality I don't see much any lag on the Note 4 so I'm perfectly fine with it. I would literally get depressed and panic if I had a vanilla Nexus device because I've come to love all the features and advantages of the Note series phones. It's a good thing we have a choice in the Android world!
Note 4 wont see it until early 2015.
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Note 4 wont see it until early 2015.
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For the Korean or international version. The Sprint variant will probably get it in q2.
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For the Korean or international version. The Sprint variant will probably get it in q2.
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With it being a Sprint push, most likely
My guess is middle of february.
So outside of the material design language and project Volta (think I got that right), what else are we missing from 5.0?
IMO...feels like another push just to get the latest version of Android but due to TW, I don't think we'll see much difference.
Judging from what I have seen on my old n5 as far as the difference in responsiveness and snappiness, this will be a huge update, TW or not. 5.0 is about twice as smooth as 4.4.4 on my n5.
Fair. I was rocking the developer preview on my N5 before I got rid of it.
Just as others have said, Ive read the same on sam mobile early 2015.
and by then Google will announce Android 5.5 Lolita
Been a long time Samsung user up until a few months ago when my Note 5 bricked and needed a new phone. Decided to grab a 6P and it turned out to be a neat little phone. But I dunno, I feel like I miss Touchwiz and most of its features and currently looking at the Note 7. Was curious if anyone else is considering or has made a similar choice.
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PearsonDKA said:
Been a long time Samsung user up until a few months ago when my Note 5 bricked and needed a new phone. Decided to grab a 6P and it turned out to be a neat little phone. But I dunno, I feel like I miss Touchwiz and most of its features and currently looking at the Note 7. Was curious if anyone else is considering or has made a similar choice.
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Yup I have a 6P now. I left from TouchWiz on the Note 4 and decided to see what all the hype was about for Nexus devices and so far it's OK. Good Rom support and root ability but the hardware is lacking compared to a monster like the Note 7. I'm really wanting to come back but waiting to see if bootloader is locked or not. Not sure if a phone that can't be rooted is possible for me.
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Yup I have a 6P now. I left from TouchWiz on the Note 4 and decided to see what all the hype was about for Nexus devices and so far it's OK. Good Rom support and root ability but the hardware is lacking compared to a monster like the Note 7. I'm really wanting to come back but waiting to see if bootloader is locked or not. Not sure if a phone that can't be rooted is possible for me.
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I'm definitely on the fence about the whole bootloader thing, but I don't think it's gonna be a huge deciding factor for me. Actually reserved a Black Onyx version already haha.
PearsonDKA said:
Been a long time Samsung user up until a few months ago when my Note 5 bricked and needed a new phone. Decided to grab a 6P and it turned out to be a neat little phone. But I dunno, I feel like I miss Touchwiz and most of its features and currently looking at the Note 7. Was curious if anyone else is considering or has made a similar choice. [/URL]
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I've had the Note 3, 4, 5, S7 Edge etc... I switch phones alot... Had a bunch from HTC, all the iPhones etc...
The 6P's main strength is the software - mainly the unlocked bootloader and the quick updates.
Although I preferred some of Samsung's software features like camera and gallery and some of TouchWiz's aesthetics.
From a hardware perspective though, that phone sucks compared to the Note 5 or any other modern Samsung device. It doesn't feel as premium, bluetooth issues, EMMC, and a bunch of other stuff that bothered me. So I ended up returning it and going back to the Note 5.
Samsung has been getting a lot better with software, as far as TouchWiz - each version continues to get better. Now that their new head of mobile is a software guy, I think it only gets better.
They have also been pretty good in regards to updates - at least monthly security updates. However, the carriers still slow them down due to their idiotic demands regarding updates and testing etc...
Which in turns affects the user and makes us mad at Samsung when really we should be annoyed with our carriers.
In my experience from all these years of owning many many phones from both iOS and Android.
I think the iPhone and Samsung reigns supreme as far as premium quality, premium flagship devices.
I would consider another Nexus somewhere down the line if they made a nice one but I still don't think (unless Google directly is involved in the hardware) that it will compete with Apple and Samsung when it comes to that premium quality device.
i preordered it, i really enjoyed my note 3 before the nexus 6 and 6p. im hoping the note 7 has rom support like my tmobile note 3 did
I'm coming from a N6P and pre-ordered.
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I might get this badboy, pending which versions have an unlocked bootloader, etc.
Using a Nexus 6p and iPhone 6s Plus and going to get the Note 7. It is a beautiful device. Best Buy has them if you want to mess around with one and see if you like it.
galaxys said:
I might get this badboy, pending which versions have an unlocked bootloader, etc.
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Yea same, I DID have it reserved but unreserved it once I read that the Canadians are getting the SD 820 version and not the Exynos like I was hoping. Even Best Buy is saying that its the Exynos version but Rogers and Bell reps are saying its gonna be the SD. Imma wait and see which one it actually is before making a choice.
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Using a Nexus 6p and iPhone 6s Plus and going to get the Note 7. It is a beautiful device. Best Buy has them if you want to mess around with one and see if you like it.
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I'll definitely gonna check out the local one by me and see if they have it.
ZTE Axon 7 here.
Had the note 5, sold it for the N6P, never buying Samsung again.
Go ahead and purchase the note 7 for $800, test its bugs, reboots, memory issues. Then experience some factory resets.
Then you might get an update and within the next 18 moths you will wait for Nugget.
For one note 7 I can buy 2 Axons.
Nexus 6P to P9 Plus to Note 7
I'm kinda on the fence here. I really love my 6p for the unmatched buttery smoothness of the interface and the fact that we'll be on Nougat one of these days already. But honestly I've been missing the gorgeous screen that Samsung offers in their top range products and I also do love the design of the Note 7. I'm a bit afraid though that the interface just won't be as smooth as the 6p and that would definitely start to irritate me. And Samsung's update policy sucks so hard that that's also a factor ...
I wanted to upgrade to the Nexus Marlin by HTC which is due for next month but I don't like the specs too much so far, let alone the design. So not sure yet what I'll do .. But since I'm an update freak I'll probably go ahead and buy the Note 7 one of these days, a year with the same phone is just too boring
borisb said:
ZTE Axon 7 here.
Had the note 5, sold it for the N6P, never buying Samsung again.
Go ahead and purchase the note 7 for $800, test its bugs, reboots, memory issues. Then experience some factory resets.
Then you might get an update and within the next 18 moths you will wait for Nugget.
For one note 7 I can buy 2 Axons.
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Nice. And you'll need 2 Axons. One to use while you're trying to get any kind of in or out of warranty support should the other one need it. Huawei won't even replace a display on the 6P for money - you have to buy a third party warranty. You and I must have had different Note5's. I never had any of the issues you mentioned in a year of using it. You are right about updates but that's more the fault of the U.S. carriers than Samsung.
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Nice. And you'll need 2 Axons. One to use while you're trying to get any kind of in or out of warranty support should the other one need it. Huawei won't even replace a display on the 6P for money - you have to buy a third party warranty. You and I must have had different Note5's. I never had any of the issues you mentioned in a year of using it.
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I never had to deal with Huawei's warranty but I had to deal with Samsung's warranty and quickly learned that with Samsung warranty is only available in the country you buy it ! That might not matter much to most people but it does to people like me who buy overseas. Sucks really hard. But I'll probably take the gamble anyway and buy the 930FD (dual sim) overseas.
You are right about updates but that's more the fault of the U.S. carriers than Samsung.
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Not true. Also the international version has a totally horrible update policy.
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I never had to deal with Huawei's warranty but I had to deal with Samsung's warranty and quickly learned that with Samsung warranty is only available in the country you buy it ! That might not matter much to most people but it does to people like me who buy overseas. Sucks really hard. But I'll probably take the gamble anyway and buy the 930FD (dual sim) overseas.
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It's no secret. It's been that way since I bought my SGS2 gray market in 2011. They really don't want phones sold in one region and imported to another. They won't even repair an international phone in the U.S. if you're willing to pay for it. Some intermediaries (Expansys, Clove, Handtec) will have grey market devices they've sold repaired under warranty on your behalf. For the latter two the warranty is two years. But I agree Samsung's policy is a little Orwellian.
As for service I've been lucky. I dropped my Note5 the same day I got it and shattered the back glass. Samsung's repair center fixed it for $75 and covered the roundtrip shipping and I got it back in a week.
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Not true. Also the international version has a totally horrible update policy.
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I haven't followed it that closely but I was under the impression they got better - at least in major markets like the UK and EU. I know they're awful in smaller markets and can also be flaky with keeping Asian markets in sync. I was thinking of getting a grey market Note7 to be free of AT&T's "customizations" and specifically to get updates directly from Samsung. If I were too I would have bought the UK version specifically for the warranty coverage. I stuck with AT&T because being on Next buying a phone outright made no economical sense.
yup, Nexus 6P after my note 4 spontaneously bricked (about 5 months ago).
I love it, but It's a lot heavier and i *really* miss one hand mode and the stylus...
Preordered the Note7. Currently have the 6P. I had the Note 4 as my personal device before the 6p. For work I have the G5 and had the Note 5 before. I work in the industry and have played around with the Note7 this week. it's a beast.
The hardware on the Note7 is mind blowing (although they REALLY could have bumped up the CPU, RAM, maybe the battery, the DAC, and FF camera). The software on the 6P wins every single time though. Yes, Samsung has a lot more built-in features. But stock Android has a special feel to it that Samsung just can't touch. I could overlook that though, if the Note7 was smoother with its faster hardware - but based on my experience with the S7 Edge, it won't be. The S7E I have, even though de-bloated, lags a lot more often than my 6P does, and that is infuriating and sad. Also, Samsung needs to pull their heads out of their ass and make a way to unlock the phone without having to press or swipe anything. I HATE pressing down the home button to scan my fingerprint. It just sucks compared to placing your finger there. Also, the iris scanner forcing you to swipe the lock screen away (so now we require button press, a swipe, and locking onto your eyes) is a step in the wrong ****ing direction.
I have Note 5 and 6p, in my experience the Note 5 load apps faster and smoother than the 6p, and i have tried both Developer previews and the stock versions. I stopped rooting since the Note 4. I got 6p because of the looks and the front speakers and the first to get fresh android OS, also as i would be traveling soon i will be using the 6p outside the country. Am on the verge of pre-ordering, i like having to be the first to get these phones, but with Samsung it has thought me many lessons to wait for better free bundled gifts, so am hoping i won't miss out this time if i wait November or December.
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if the Note7 was smoother with its faster hardware - but based on my experience with the S7 Edge, it won't be. The S7E I have, even though de-bloated, lags a lot more often than my 6P does, and that is infuriating and sad.
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Yeah I'm quite afraid that the 6P will be a lot smoother than the Note7 indeed, which would make me regret buying it ... But then again, that gorgeous display is so nice ... Really on the fence here