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[Q] Is now a bad time to buy?

I'm in the market for a new phone. I've been looking between the Note 2, SGS4 and the HTC One. I'm kind of leaning towards the Note 2 but I'm concerned that it might not be the best time to buy one of these. Thoughts/suggestions?

why would now be a bad time to buy the best phone on the market?

I'm concerned how well the phone will hold up over the next two years. I don't want to get left out in the cold because I decided to buy the Note 2 instead of the SGS4

it hasnt been out for 2 years, so no one can answer that question...

OK, let's simplify this. You were up for renewal, choice is a Note2 (assuming you dont own one) or an SGS4. Which would you choose?

My vote.. wait till note 3 to make ur decision

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My vote.. wait till note 3 to make ur decision
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I would love to, the problem is that I am currently phone-less and I can't really go without a cellphone for an unknown # of months until the Note 3 comes out.

Use google voice on your computer to communicate for now and see if you can enjoy phonelessness!

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Use google voice on your computer to communicate for now and see if you can enjoy phonelessness!
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Unfortunately that doesn't help when I'm on the road for work

note 2 no contest...

I couldn't wait and got the gnote2 a couple of weeks ago. I sold my gnote first and that covered the cost with the 2 year contract. So I'm happy.
I got it at Walmart since it was a lot cheaper than at&t store or online and just 10 more tjan amazon and I didn't have to wait 5 days even with amazon prime, weekend I guess.
My thinking was the s4 might drop the price of the note2 a bit but the note1 is stikl 200 at at&t store.
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It all depends on your budget and your need. If you're on the road constantly then the Note would be best for you because of the big battery. Again it all is dependent on your type of usage as well as budget. If money is not an issue I'd say the s4.
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It all depends on your budget and your need. If you're on the road constantly then the Note would be best for you because of the big battery. Again it all is dependent on your type of usage as well as budget. If money is not an issue I'd say the s4.
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In my current situation, the S4 is actually *cheaper* than the Note 2.

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In my current situation, the S4 is actually *cheaper* than the Note 2.
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Then if u don't need the s pen and don't mind half inch smaller screen go for that
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I'm going to recommend the Note 2. I just installed CM 10.1 and have underclocked to 900Mhz and the device still runs as smooth as I need it to day in and day out. Keep in mind that 900Mhz is nearly half of what the processor is capable of.
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Until concrete numbers are in I'm going to say the Note 2 just on battery size. Lets face it doesnt matter what ohone you have, with no juice it's ni good. Note 2 has 3100 mah and S4 has 2600 mah. Biggest difference for battery comsumption is screen but the difference in battery size doesnt make up the difference.

2600 for a 5" LTE phone is terrible; my wifi SGP 5.0 was "ok" with 2500; my original AT&T Note kinda ok with an aftermarket 2700. Bleh.

It's always a bad time to buy a new phone.
There will always be a new one coming out or just around the corner. ..
Your on the Note II forum. ..so expectations and answers to be more positive for it than any other.
Right now. ..this phone is still the best for those who want a big screen. .fast cpu..plenty of new roms/themes/add ons and have a Spen to use.
Others have their own strength and weakness as well. .so figure out what you really want. ..and go from there.
Being stuck with this phone for 2 years isn't a problem. ...if it has what you want and need really. ..it's just not going to be the latest version out soon. ...BTW plenty of folks still use their Note 1's....
Ask yourself what you need. ..as opposed to what the companies are promoting as the next big great thing...because this is how they rope folks into always wanting something new.
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Would you still buy a Note 2?

Hi all,
I sold my Note 1 last week, since it was dying on me constantly and I needed a new one. Of course I couldn't simply downgrade to a smaller phone, and I've received a good offer for my Upgrade. I was going to get the Note 2 for £23 a month for the next two years.
Now I know the Note 3 has just come out, but at it's current price tag (£42 a month +) I just couldn't afford it.
Would it still be a good choice to upgrade to the Note 2 for the next two years? All I want is a solid productive phone with a great battery life, something my Note 1 didn't have.
Thanks in advance!

ShahinTehShiz said:
Hi all,
I sold my Note 1 last week, since it was dying on me constantly and I needed a new one. Of course I couldn't simply downgrade to a smaller phone, and I've received a good offer for my Upgrade. I was going to get the Note 2 for £23 a month for the next two years.
Now I know the Note 3 has just come out, but at it's current price tag (£42 a month +) I just couldn't afford it.
Would it still be a good choice to upgrade to the Note 2 for the next two years? All I want is a solid productive phone with a great battery life, something my Note 1 didn't have.
Thanks in advance!
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go for note2 if your budget does not permit a lot is expected with the official 4.3 update and then kitkat rolling soon next year

Let's see, I always brought my Note II with me at work.
And the working hours are 8:30am to 1pm and 2pm to 5:30pm
At the end of my work I still have 70 to 80 battery percent with Mobile Data turned on all day.
So yeah, I would still buy Note II if I had Note I and couldn't afford Note III.
But if you're someone who's itching to try out Note III, sometime along the way you'll be like "I wish I bought Note III"
Anyway, Note II is a good phone, actually almost perfect. You can survive the whole day with this guy.
Aside from battery, it's very responsive and fast.
Plus, it's never bad to upgrade hehe.
Assuming you're not a gadget/phone hungry guy, go for Note II bro.
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The note 2 is the best mobile ive ever used... yes the note 3 has better specks n stuff but youd hardly notice any difference in real life using plus you on a budget. The note 2 is a beast. Dont think twice :
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110% for note2..its perfect in every aspect..
But if u have money plant growing in ur backyard than go for note3
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I agree, the Note 2 is still an excellent phone. I strongly recommend to buy the LTE version (N7105).
On the other hand, if you don't like Samsung's monopolist tendency (like I don't), the LG G2 seems to be a great, affordable option. Could be my next phone (or the Nexus 5 once it's available).
Good luck

Yes
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Buy a note 2 now. It's as cheap as it will get. Note 3 does not bring much to the table, you still can't see pixels in 720p and you can scale your UI however you like it using a launcher so 1080p on small devices is pretty much useless.
Battery life is ridiculously long comparing it to any other smartphone.
May not be as beautifuly crafted even as a HOX but at least they work.
It's a cheap phone that's very powerful and also does the job of a 7" tablet well. Also there's a neat stylus that does all sorts of cool stuff. Also new update soon including most of note 3's new software.
Get a note 2
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Go for it, the prices have dropped to reasonable levels too.
You had a Note, so the size will be a non issue.
The only minor regret I have, is that looks and aesthetics matter to me more than I thought it did.
Slap the official protective cover, and I love it again

Thanks for all of your responses guys!
I've decided to take the plunge and have ordered the Note 2
Looks like I'll be rooting it as soon as I get my hands on it

Looks like I've received the 4G Note 2 (GT-N7105)..
Anyone know if there is any disadvantages to this? I don't mind the 4G, but I really do not want battery life to be affected, mainly because I'll be using Wi-Fi and don't have a 4g plan anyway.
Any ideas on whether I should give it back for an N7100?
Thanks!

No way should you give it back. I have the 7105 and don't have a 4g plan either but will maybe get one on my next contract.
Imo the 7105 will be worth more in trade in and your still going to use it non lte so the battery issue is not an issue.
As long as you don't want fm radio keep and enjoy what you got.
Let us know how you get on.
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I wouldve recommended the Note 3 if not for that ugly looking bezel.
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My two cents:
I have an Xperia Z and a Note 2, and recently bought an S4, after mulling a bit over the Note 3. I found that my Note 2 betters the S4, and beats the Xperia too. The Note 3 for me did not offer any thing new that I could find interesting. The Note 2 is still an awesome device, and I won't be letting it go for a while.
The main plus the N3 has over N2 (for me) is a better display. For my everyday use (office stuff, light gaming, music) the N2 is great, the battery rocks, and the 8mp camera is decent enough (and better than the Xperia's in many aspects - not kidding! ). I would recommend this phone any day! :thumbup:
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Thanks for the replies guys, decided to keep the N7105

ShahinTehShiz said:
Thanks for the replies guys, decided to keep the N7105
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Good choice.
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[Q] Do i get this phone?!

Hello guys, i know this is more of a question type thread, but i just need to know this. Should i get this phone? i can get it for free on a £21 a month contract, is it still very fast and snappy? also, is the screen good? i would appreciate your feedback! thank you!

No one can really answer that question for you.
However, imo its still fast, snappy and I love the screen. I thought I would get the note 3 but it hasn't done enough to woo me.
I might be tempted to look at the lg g2 if I had no phone. But I do so I won't.
I hope that helps in some way.
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I'd say the Note 2 is worth getting if your budget doesn't allow for a newer, fancier handset. How long is the contract? If it's 24 months then you might want to look at a slightly newer one, or consider selling the Note 2 half-way into the contract. I got the Galaxy S2 on a 2 year contract 2 years ago (the contract ended yesterday - I'm finally free!), but unlocked it and sold it about 14 months into the contract and bought the Note 2 outright. The Note 2 has a nice size, a better than average screen and commendable internal hardware.

vantt1 said:
I'd say the Note 2 is worth getting if your budget doesn't allow for a newer, fancier handset. How long is the contract? If it's 24 months then you might want to look at a slightly newer one, or consider selling the Note 2 half-way into the contract. I got the Galaxy S2 on a 2 year contract 2 years ago (the contract ended yesterday - I'm finally free!), but unlocked it and sold it about 14 months into the contract and bought the Note 2 outright. The Note 2 has a nice size, a better than average screen and commendable internal hardware.
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Thank you! It is a 24 month contract, I was considering the nexus 5 but it is the same as my nexus 7 in design and software, so I will most likely go for the note 2. Or, I could wait till the end of my current contract and get a better phone cheaper on upgrade because at the moment I am paying £90 to cancel my current contract. Is it still worth getting the note 2 when it runs out in June?

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Thank you! It is a 24 month contract, I was considering the nexus 5 but it is the same as my nexus 7 in design and software, so I will most likely go for the note 2. Or, I could wait till the end of my current contract and get a better phone cheaper on upgrade because at the moment I am paying £90 to cancel my current contract. Is it still worth getting the note 2 when it runs out in June?
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It depends on the price of the Note 2 vs the Nexus 5. It seems to me that the Nexus 5 would be a better value upgrade than the Note 2, because it is much newer and overall the hardware is better (1080p screen, 2.3 Ghz Krait CPU etc). Over here in Australia, the price of a brand new Nexus 5 is about the same as a second hand Note 2 so if I had a choice of either phone now, I'd pick the Nexus 5 over the Note 2.

I really think the GN2 is worth it... As far as price goes it is definitely cheaper than any of the new handsets out... As far as screen goes it is very well off when it comes to quality, yes it isn't premier in comparison but any noticeable difference is subtle at most... As far as battery life one could easily argue that the GN2 is still the best... As far as firmware upgrades (if you decide to go custom) the GN2 is about as good as it gets... Already have a flashable 4.4 thanks to OmniRom (although not stable enough to use as a daily driver it is worth mentioning to show the speed of development with the device)... As far as speed goes... There really isn't anything better than the quad core functionality of the GN2. Even though some device offer octo-core processors they really don't use more than 4 at any one time and so speeds are barely noticeable at best... Ultimately the GN2, IMO was a head of its time and still has at least 2 years of fully reliable, upgradable usage left
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Agree with everything that Phx said.
I'm one year in to my 2 year contract with the Note 2 and it's the first phone I've ever owned that I haven't been desperate to sell mid-contract.
It's very very fast, zero lag, great screen and fantastic battery life. 4.3 OTA update is due very soon with 4.4 already in development so you should have no worries about updates.
The Note 2 was way ahead of its time. The only thing it lacks compares to recent handsets is 1080p resolution, but on a phone screen the difference is barely noticeable.

Thank you guys, this has really helped, I have decided to wait until June and then get the GN2 then, i think it will probably be cheaper then anyway, also, what does IMO mean?
p.s I used my friends note 2 that he just got and it is very speedy and the screen looks very good. I am coming from a samsung galaxy ace, so anything would be better!

gman88667733 said:
Thank you guys, this has really helped, I have decided to wait until June and then get the GN2 then, i think it will probably be cheaper then anyway, also, what does IMO mean?
p.s I used my friends note 2 that he just got and it is very speedy and the screen looks very good. I am coming from a samsung galaxy ace, so anything would be better!
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IMO = In My Opinion... I would also keep an eye out for Black Friday/Holiday sales (Xmas and New Years) as you might get a better deal during those time frames... Also check consistently as I was able to nab 3 Nexus 4s for 50 bucks a pop in March (online only) ---
---will add that though the Note 2 will always seem bulky to your peers... After 2 weeks you really grow accustomed to its size and will look at almost every other phone as tiny and hardly usable
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gman88667733 said:
Thank you guys, this has really helped, I have decided to wait until June and then get the GN2 then, i think it will probably be cheaper then anyway, also, what does IMO mean?
p.s I used my friends note 2 that he just got and it is very speedy and the screen looks very good. I am coming from a samsung galaxy ace, so anything would be better!
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Coming from a Galaxy Ace, the Note 2 would be a great upgrade. Personally, I've grown to prefer AOSP over Touchwiz - maybe that's why I'd prefer the Nexus 5 over the Note 2. But that's if I didn't have either phone right now; I love the Note 2 on AOSP-based firmware. It beats the Nexus 5 just with its expandable storage alone!

As you like aosp it is worth mentioning the note 2 had a good selection of custom roms, aosp, aokp, stock and hybrid. Omni rom had just released an (almost) stable kit kat 4.4 rom. Thus offering a lot of what the nexus 5 offers
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colsecomb said:
As you like aosp it is worth mentioning the note 2 had a good selection of custom roms, aosp, aokp, stock and hybrid. Omni rom had just released an (almost) stable kit kat 4.4 rom. Thus offering a lot of what the nexus 5 offers
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I'm using RootBox v4.2 (as seen in my signature) and I love the flashy window animations and scroll effects. It's still based on 4.2.2 though - because 4.3 uses TRIM, it needs a full wipe so I haven't really been bothered to look for another ROM.
Do you know any 4.3/4.4 ROMs that have rather fancy animations?

[Q] Any of you switching to the new htc one or GS5?

I have been thinking about getting the s5 since I am on the jump program but I'm not so sure it's a better phone than my note 3.
Do you guys have any good reasons to switch or not switch ?

I'm in the same boat, I can jump in a week and am looking at both those same phones.
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I'm thinking the new Sony
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Exfex21 said:
I have been thinking about getting the s5 since I am on the jump program but I'm not so sure it's a better phone than my note 3.
Do you guys have any good reasons to switch or not switch ?
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The S5 is not an upgrade from our device at all, less RAM, slightly better CPU, not enough of an upgrade to jump to that device. now if you were on a s3 then yeah it would be.

None of these newer phones have any must have features or much improved specs compared to the note 3. Depending on how much improved the note 4 is to the note 3 (majorly looking at larger internal storage options and hopefully android 4.5 or 5.0) I might even just wait til note 5 comes out. The note 3 is still "the real phone" to contend with and has lots of staying power.
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Yea no other device holds my interest besides the note 4. Unless the next nexus device is made by Samsung. Hell even a better idea, Google should make the note devices their nexus devices. Killer specs for eons. Here's to hopes and dreams

The Note 3 is my last Samsung phone for a while. The S5 looks great but it'll be KNOXed and the device tree will lag phone release by many months due to Samsung's anti-developer stance, we'll be fighting Samsung for any progress at all. So despite the best 5" display in a phone and huge battery it's only for the TW crowd.
OTOH HTC's M8 comes in developer edition, no bootloader lock, has prob 80% as good display, sdcard like Samsung, and far better camera too. They don't hate developers iirc. I'd rather support HTC esp considering none of these are cheap hardware.
If you have a Note 3 keep it and enjoy the best phone. If you have a S4 then upgrade to M8. S5 isn't worth it.

The 'All New' HTC One doesn't look as nice as the old one, in my opinion. The original One looked classy, this one just looks kinda regular. Also, the specs really aren't better than even the Note 3, let alone the upcoming Note 4.
As for the S5 (and the One), I don't think I could ever go back to a phone that small. My last phone was the original Note, and now with the Note 3, i've kind of settled into jolly green giant territory and will never leave.
If The next Nexus device were at least 5.5", I might be tempted to switch, but i'm not sure. Probably not gonna happen though.

No newly released, soon to be released, or later this year appears better than my Note 3. Only a Note 4 can make me upgrade at this time.
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Concur... nothing interests me... my Note 3 works great.

HTC will never be in these hands. They suck
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HTC will never be in these hands. They suck
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I dunno man, if they bring a "max" version of it out I might think about it.

S5 is like am S4+. Htc one the camera sucks. I'll be honest, if the One had a better camera I might have just gotten it. But now I'm just going to wait for the Note 4.
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HTC are for women they make "maxi" pads.
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Galaxy s5
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I dunno man, if they bring a "max" version of it out I might think about it.
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I was looking at HTC one m8. Looks sexy but a 4megapixel camera. Really? I just dunno what they was thinking. The max looks nice but let's see how the screw us over.
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I also am eligible for an upgrade on the Jump plan next week.
The only current phone that interests me is the Sony Z2, and it does not look like TMO will get it soon, if at all.
Kind of hate to "waste" the 6 month Jump. May just get the S5, then I'll have another free upgrade in time for the Note 4.
BTW, I confirmed with TMO that if you have the legacy 6 month Jump upgrade program, you will continue to be eligible to upgrade every 6 months for as long as you have Jump.
Not sure yet what I will do next week....

I think I'll buy it but still keep my note 3.
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sfin54 said:
I also am eligible for an upgrade on the Jump plan next week.
The only current phone that interests me is the Sony Z2, and it does not look like TMO will get it soon, if at all.
Kind of hate to "waste" the 6 month Jump. May just get the S5, then I'll have another free upgrade in time for the Note 4.
BTW, I confirmed with TMO that if you have the legacy 6 month Jump upgrade program, you will continue to be eligible to upgrade every 6 months for as long as you have Jump.
Not sure yet what I will do next week....
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This. The whole reason I got jump was to jump around and try different phones. I will probably get the m8. If I don't like it,no big deal I will jump again in 6 months to the note 4 or nexus.
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dipole said:
This. The whole reason I got jump was to jump around and try different phones. I will probably get the m8. If I don't like it,no big deal I will jump again in 6 months to the note 4 or nexus.
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I thought the same thing. If we're paying for jump, we should at least use it. I'm jumping to the M8. Seems nice. Then, maybe the Note 4. But if they increase the size on the new note by a lot, don't think I'll get it. Note 2 was big enough, note 3 is bare able. A bigger version would be to much for me

Still worth picking up a note 3

Looking for new toy AMD I've always been intrigued by the note 3. Was considering grabbing one from T-Mobile is it still worth it ? Sure they will be announcing the note 4 soon .
I currently have the nexus 5 and like it but crave a bigger screen .
Is there root for the note 3
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You're at the half way point. Have a phone that's been half a year out... or wait half a year for the Note 4. Your call.
Yes, there's root out. It's XDA after all.

imaleecher said:
You're at the half way point. Have a phone that's been half a year out... or wait half a year for the Note 4. Your call.
Yes, there's root out. It's XDA after all.
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Not all gave root here on XDA sadly
And from read the note 4 is going to have a wrap around screen
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I have the note 3 and I love it. The galaxy s5 demo unit came into my store the other day and I have no desire to switch to it... don't get me wrong it's REALLY nice. But I wouldn't switch to it. I say go for the N3
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Do yourself a favor and get a note 3 you can thank me later
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Wait for note 4 boot loader / Knox situation . if it's locked and Knox situation has not changed then either get a note 3 or stay away from Samsung all together . note 4 will have that dual WiFi antenna thing which is the only feature worth getting other wise I do t see them slapping 4 g of ram of 64 GB memory . faster CPU is useless and redundant as of now specially the way google is lowering requirement for their OS. The wrap around screen thing is useless to me because my phone is always encased

OP I was in the exact situation as yours. I've been using Nexus 5 and wanting to get a bigger screen, namely a Note. I weighed in the current trend, and am convinced that Samsung isn't gonna make Note 4 super interesting, so i decided to get a Note 3.
So far I am not disappointed. Touch Wiz has matured and there is no need to deviate from stock based ROMs.
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Samsung has been crap this year. I really wouldn't have my hopes up for their next upcoming flagship. After all, it's just a phone. I waited a whole year for the damn s5 and it turned out to be a disappointment. I got the note 3 instead,and I totally recommend it. It will feel huge at first, but you will eventually adapt to the point of no return.After all, it's just a phone.

Just picked up the note 3 ....um wow just wow
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Awww my good friend. Do it, do it, it'll make you feel good good good.
Really, do yourself a favor and get the 3. I did last month and oh boy, everything is great and no you don't really need to root, I did because I can't live without Viper audio and cerberus and remove bloat to clear up memory, ( not just disable them). Using a custom rom, it was wicked but I've changed to hyper drive rom, both fantastic. So long story short get it, and become happy for ever, until next year at lease.

Or do as I did and get the Note 3 and pay the extra $ for Jump! and when the Note 4 comes out switch

CheesyNutz said:
Just picked up the note 3 ....um wow just wow
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Enjoy it bro, the "wow" factor has yet to leave me. Lots of great devs here with great roms and kernel support, as well as nice community that will help you out when in need.
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Had it since day one and there is nothing better out there now. No S5, HTC One (M8) or IPhone can beat this beauty and the beast phone. Only the Note 4 can surpass it when it comes out.
You will not regret getting a Note 3. May want to wait till S5 comes out in case you can get a Gear watch bundled for cheap if interested in it.
Ian B

I kinda agree that there really isn't anything out there better yet. I mean things like 2k display (not needed and bigger battery drain) 2gb ram is a step backwards, and no stylus (if you use it) and the Snap Dragon 801 is only 200mhz faster with the same gpu. So at the minimum I probably wouldn't even look til the 805 SoC came out or 64 bit (which isn't even needed yet).
That not even mentioning someone has to come up with something really innovative or significantly better like the isocell with OIS. At this point, we're really at a point of saturation.