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[Q] Note 2 or S4

Hi All
At the moment I am using HTC Sensation but am due for upgrade (3UK) Dont like HTc at the moment had lots of problems so thought I would give Samsung a try.
I have never had a Samsung phone so am undecided about which to go for. I like the screen size on the Note 2 and from what I have heard the battery is great (HTC Crap) I use it for internet a lot and email ,when i have my Tablet I would use it to tether if this is possible with the note. Watch some video nd use word documents.
I can get either the Note 2 or S4 as free upgrade so any advice would be appreciated as to which is best. My main requirement is battery, the HTC I had to carry two batteries to last the day...
Thanks all.

Battery - undoubtedly go for Note II. No second thoughts there. Hands down has the best battery life of all phones except Droid Razr (which lacks quite a few features of N2).
If you like the screen size, and battery life is your priority, it's a no brainer IMO.

tuxonhtc said:
Battery - undoubtedly go for Note II. No second thoughts there. Hands down has the best battery life of all phones except Droid Razr (which lacks quite a few features of N2).
If you like the screen size, and battery life is your priority, it's a no brainer IMO.
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I've just had to make the sane decision as you. I'm also in 3 and I decided on the note 2 for screen and battery and after a week I made the right choice. After it being off charge since 7am this morning it's now 8 at night and I have 52% left.

I just made this decision, went with N2. It's already ready to go development wise and you don't have to worry about new phone hiccups or wait a long time for a proper portfolio of accessories. Plus the bigger screen, s pen, and most likely better battery make it worth it to me.
But if you're a stock ROM guy, really want 1080p res, or want the new CPU architecture, then S4's the way to go.

Buy a note 2...no contest here. Its got nice screen, big screen, big battery, s pen and just about all s4 software features are coming.
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kjt57 said:
Hi All
At the moment I am using HTC Sensation but am due for upgrade (3UK) Dont like HTc at the moment had lots of problems so thought I would give Samsung a try.
I have never had a Samsung phone so am undecided about which to go for. I like the screen size on the Note 2 and from what I have heard the battery is great (HTC Crap) I use it for internet a lot and email ,when i have my Tablet I would use it to tether if this is possible with the note. Watch some video nd use word documents.
I can get either the Note 2 or S4 as free upgrade so any advice would be appreciated as to which is best. My main requirement is battery, the HTC I had to carry two batteries to last the day...
Thanks all.
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How did you miss my thread? The note 2 is all you need for 2013 and beyond till the note 3
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I was also a HTC addict. But was really disappointed with their take on battery and storage. I was tempted by the s3, no s4 in January, but I wanted the big screen. Believe me every day I'm so glad I got the note 2. If I had to choose today between the s4 and the note 2 is still choose the note.
As long as you are happy with size pick the note.
Enjoy.

skyelm said:
Buy a note 2...no contest here. Its got nice screen, big screen, big battery, s pen and just about all s4 software features are coming.
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3vo3d said:
I was also a HTC addict. But was really disappointed with their take on battery and storage. I was tempted by the s3, no s4 in January, but I wanted the big screen. Believe me every day I'm so glad I got the note 2. If I had to choose today between the s4 and the note 2 is still choose the note.
As long as you are happy with size pick the note.
Enjoy.
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My words exactly!

3 UK have now discontinued the Note 2 on their website........

I've had this same question roaming around my mind for a bit now. Since T-Mo is ending contrancts if you want to end and go on your own. My wife and I are eleigible for an upgrade in June.... not free but if we get a new phone T-Mo is making changes where we would be paying about $20 a month to pay off whatever phone we choose, and that will actually still be cheaper then our plan now. I was thinking about waiting it out for the note 3 but I honestly don't have the patience for that. Went in a T-Mo store yesterday and dude told me it won't be until November most likely until the Note 3 get dropped. I can't wait that long..... I'm getting the Note 2 over S4 and probably sell it in September or October and use that money to get the Note 3.
Notes are big, almost too big but from what I have read peeps love them. Probably take some time to get used to them but I'll learn

Yeah, the size was initially scaring me too, but I got used to it real quick and now would definately miss the screen estate on a smaller device.
Actually the S4 felt like a small toy when I tried it in a shop (also due to low weight).

I admit that it's slightly (again, slightly - and I've not got the biggest of hands either) awkward to hold at times, but the positives by far outweigh the cons for me. I'm a big time reader (mostly comics ) and watch movies on my device. My hands get tired like hell while using tablets and my eyes hurt while using the tiny sized devices - Note II hits the sweet spot for me And I don't have to camp near a recharge socket either.

Bought a s4 for my wife yesterday and played with for 30 min.
Just 1 thing: note2 is better believe me BUT s4 has a good camera tbh xD
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WTF?!
These kinds of thread just won't die

Note 3.
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I do not love intermediate solutions, so I have the Note II to be complete everytime, but I need a small phone in my pocket, to be available, it is not possible with S4, S4 and Note II, so I have the Acer Liquid Gallant, not expensive and with acceptable performances for me...
Two is better than one, Note II, waiting for Note 3...

Note 2 no doubt.
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[Q] Is the note 2 still worth it

Hi everybody,
I am entering uni soon (engineering major) and I need a device to write quick notes and equations I know the note series are perfect for that.
But the question is should I wait for note 3 or buy note 2
(I can wait, but if you encourage me to buy the note 2 I will buy it)
P.s- my course starts at 15 september

You will not be disappointed with the Note 2. It depends on your financial situation I guess. The Note 2 can be had for quite a reasonable price at the moment, and the Note 3 will be considerably more expensive at release. It's also not likely to be readily available by the time you start your course.
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My suggestion if you can shell out money wait for note 3 initially it would b expensive thats y.
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Note 3 is going to have a bigger screen between 5.7 to 5.9, release date is rumoured as August end or Oct. Its going to be a octacore with 3gig ram so definetly going to be expensive. If note takin is your objective go for Note 8.
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Note8.0 is better choice.
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If you primarily want the thing for writing notes, then get the Note 2 now. The Note 3 won't be any better at "writing notes". Save your money, you won't regret it.

Note 2 is still a damn good valid device! It's not old or slow or anything.
Note 3 will be better, as usual, but with that comes a hefty price tag.
Note 8 is larger and is probably better suited for note taking as the Note 2 / 3 are primarily phones and then pen oriented. So while they can take notes VERY well, to use it as a note taking device? I don't know... I would rather have a dedicated device to take notes at the university. Plus 5.5 inches isn't too much space to be taking notes...

Depends. If you really need a phone. Go for it. But if you can wait a few more months, wait for Note III. I just bought a Note II a couple of days ago and I'm really happy with it.

BTechTalk said:
Depends. If you really need a phone. Go for it. But if you can wait a few more months, wait for Note III. I just bought a Note II a couple of days ago and I'm really happy with it.
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I think it would be four month at least until he get an opportunity to put hands on Samsung Galaxy Note 3. Depends from the country he is living.....
So, I agree with you. If you need a phone just go and buy. Note 2 still a GREAT, GREAT superphone.
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Thealshear said:
Hi everybody,
I am entering uni soon (engineering major) and I need a device to write quick notes and equations I know the note series are perfect for that.
But the question is should I wait for note 3 or buy note 2
(I can wait, but if you encourage me to buy the note 2 I will buy it)
P.s- my course starts at 15 september
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You will not be able to put hands on Samsung Galaxy Note 3 when your course stars at 15th of September. Moreover, it would be very pricey when they start selling Note 3 in October or November.
So, if you have money go and buy Note 2. Still a great superphone.
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I don't think the Note 2 will be outdated for a while. And for the price it is now, with all the advantages like screen size, stylus, massive battery and speedy performance, it's a no brainer. Go for it.

I'm actually in the same situation. Got an s2 but wanna upgrade to Note. But I'm in Australia and may be very late in year before it comes out. So I think the Note 2 is more value for money at this stage.
Does anyone know if it's worth getting the Note 2 NT 7105 LTE model rather than 7100? Thanks too
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Just went for the note 2 myself, it is proven to be reliable and great!

mrtzong said:
I'm actually in the same situation. Got an s2 but wanna upgrade to Note. But I'm in Australia and may be very late in year before it comes out. So I think the Note 2 is more value for money at this stage.
Does anyone know if it's worth getting the Note 2 NT 7105 LTE model rather than 7100? Thanks too
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I considered the same question, and decided against the LTE version. For one, I'm not out and about downloading heavily. The non-LTE Note 2 I have has Speedtested at around 14mbps at times, which is plenty for me. And being a tinkerer, the 3G version has FAR more ROMS and kernels available than the LTE version.

SenK9 said:
I considered the same question, and decided against the LTE version. For one, I'm not out and about downloading heavily. The non-LTE Note 2 I have has Speedtested at around 14mbps at times, which is plenty for me. And being a tinkerer, the 3G version has FAR more ROMS and kernels available than the LTE version.
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Yeah thanks for that advice. I'm a little of a tinkerer too and am erring towards the non LTE version. Any good and stable rom suggestions?

mrtzong said:
Yeah thanks for that advice. I'm a little of a tinkerer too and am erring towards the non LTE version. Any good and stable rom suggestions?
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Try em all and decide, 'good' differs from person to person Nandroid is great for that.
Probably the biggest decision is going with a Touchwiz/Samsung based ROM, or an AOSP based ROM. There are pros and cons of each type (specifically stylus and multi-window functions related to framework changes). A quick search on this subforum will net you all the information you need.
I tried a bunch of TW ones, and a bunch of AOSP ones, and settled on Slimbean. Simple and functional, with very minimal memory/space overhead, a bit how I've setup my PC (using XFCE). Good luck with it all.

SenK9 said:
Try em all and decide, 'good' differs from person to person Nandroid is great for that.
Probably the biggest decision is going with a Touchwiz/Samsung based ROM, or an AOSP based ROM. There are pros and cons of each type (specifically stylus and multi-window functions related to framework changes). A quick search on this subforum will net you all the information you need.
I tried a bunch of TW ones, and a bunch of AOSP ones, and settled on Slimbean. Simple and functional, with very minimal memory/space overhead, a bit how I've setup my PC (using XFCE). Good luck with it all.
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Yeah thanks. My main reason of upgrading from the galaxy s2 is for the stylus and note taking etc. So I'll have a look around
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mrtzong said:
I'm actually in the same situation. Got an s2 but wanna upgrade to Note. But I'm in Australia and may be very late in year before it comes out. So I think the Note 2 is more value for money at this stage.
Does anyone know if it's worth getting the Note 2 NT 7105 LTE model rather than 7100? Thanks too
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Think you made a good call there mate. The Note 3 will be expensive until some point midway through next year and the N7100 is still one of the best devices out there.
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In India. . There is a smart upgrade offer. .. easily can save 10000 rupees .. (I bought for 36000.rupees 8 months back. ....now note 2 is available for 26000 rupees if you exchange with an old phone)
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[Q] Do i get this phone?!

Hello guys, i know this is more of a question type thread, but i just need to know this. Should i get this phone? i can get it for free on a £21 a month contract, is it still very fast and snappy? also, is the screen good? i would appreciate your feedback! thank you!

No one can really answer that question for you.
However, imo its still fast, snappy and I love the screen. I thought I would get the note 3 but it hasn't done enough to woo me.
I might be tempted to look at the lg g2 if I had no phone. But I do so I won't.
I hope that helps in some way.
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I'd say the Note 2 is worth getting if your budget doesn't allow for a newer, fancier handset. How long is the contract? If it's 24 months then you might want to look at a slightly newer one, or consider selling the Note 2 half-way into the contract. I got the Galaxy S2 on a 2 year contract 2 years ago (the contract ended yesterday - I'm finally free!), but unlocked it and sold it about 14 months into the contract and bought the Note 2 outright. The Note 2 has a nice size, a better than average screen and commendable internal hardware.

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I'd say the Note 2 is worth getting if your budget doesn't allow for a newer, fancier handset. How long is the contract? If it's 24 months then you might want to look at a slightly newer one, or consider selling the Note 2 half-way into the contract. I got the Galaxy S2 on a 2 year contract 2 years ago (the contract ended yesterday - I'm finally free!), but unlocked it and sold it about 14 months into the contract and bought the Note 2 outright. The Note 2 has a nice size, a better than average screen and commendable internal hardware.
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Thank you! It is a 24 month contract, I was considering the nexus 5 but it is the same as my nexus 7 in design and software, so I will most likely go for the note 2. Or, I could wait till the end of my current contract and get a better phone cheaper on upgrade because at the moment I am paying £90 to cancel my current contract. Is it still worth getting the note 2 when it runs out in June?

gman88667733 said:
Thank you! It is a 24 month contract, I was considering the nexus 5 but it is the same as my nexus 7 in design and software, so I will most likely go for the note 2. Or, I could wait till the end of my current contract and get a better phone cheaper on upgrade because at the moment I am paying £90 to cancel my current contract. Is it still worth getting the note 2 when it runs out in June?
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It depends on the price of the Note 2 vs the Nexus 5. It seems to me that the Nexus 5 would be a better value upgrade than the Note 2, because it is much newer and overall the hardware is better (1080p screen, 2.3 Ghz Krait CPU etc). Over here in Australia, the price of a brand new Nexus 5 is about the same as a second hand Note 2 so if I had a choice of either phone now, I'd pick the Nexus 5 over the Note 2.

I really think the GN2 is worth it... As far as price goes it is definitely cheaper than any of the new handsets out... As far as screen goes it is very well off when it comes to quality, yes it isn't premier in comparison but any noticeable difference is subtle at most... As far as battery life one could easily argue that the GN2 is still the best... As far as firmware upgrades (if you decide to go custom) the GN2 is about as good as it gets... Already have a flashable 4.4 thanks to OmniRom (although not stable enough to use as a daily driver it is worth mentioning to show the speed of development with the device)... As far as speed goes... There really isn't anything better than the quad core functionality of the GN2. Even though some device offer octo-core processors they really don't use more than 4 at any one time and so speeds are barely noticeable at best... Ultimately the GN2, IMO was a head of its time and still has at least 2 years of fully reliable, upgradable usage left
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Agree with everything that Phx said.
I'm one year in to my 2 year contract with the Note 2 and it's the first phone I've ever owned that I haven't been desperate to sell mid-contract.
It's very very fast, zero lag, great screen and fantastic battery life. 4.3 OTA update is due very soon with 4.4 already in development so you should have no worries about updates.
The Note 2 was way ahead of its time. The only thing it lacks compares to recent handsets is 1080p resolution, but on a phone screen the difference is barely noticeable.

Thank you guys, this has really helped, I have decided to wait until June and then get the GN2 then, i think it will probably be cheaper then anyway, also, what does IMO mean?
p.s I used my friends note 2 that he just got and it is very speedy and the screen looks very good. I am coming from a samsung galaxy ace, so anything would be better!

gman88667733 said:
Thank you guys, this has really helped, I have decided to wait until June and then get the GN2 then, i think it will probably be cheaper then anyway, also, what does IMO mean?
p.s I used my friends note 2 that he just got and it is very speedy and the screen looks very good. I am coming from a samsung galaxy ace, so anything would be better!
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IMO = In My Opinion... I would also keep an eye out for Black Friday/Holiday sales (Xmas and New Years) as you might get a better deal during those time frames... Also check consistently as I was able to nab 3 Nexus 4s for 50 bucks a pop in March (online only) ---
---will add that though the Note 2 will always seem bulky to your peers... After 2 weeks you really grow accustomed to its size and will look at almost every other phone as tiny and hardly usable
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gman88667733 said:
Thank you guys, this has really helped, I have decided to wait until June and then get the GN2 then, i think it will probably be cheaper then anyway, also, what does IMO mean?
p.s I used my friends note 2 that he just got and it is very speedy and the screen looks very good. I am coming from a samsung galaxy ace, so anything would be better!
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Coming from a Galaxy Ace, the Note 2 would be a great upgrade. Personally, I've grown to prefer AOSP over Touchwiz - maybe that's why I'd prefer the Nexus 5 over the Note 2. But that's if I didn't have either phone right now; I love the Note 2 on AOSP-based firmware. It beats the Nexus 5 just with its expandable storage alone!

As you like aosp it is worth mentioning the note 2 had a good selection of custom roms, aosp, aokp, stock and hybrid. Omni rom had just released an (almost) stable kit kat 4.4 rom. Thus offering a lot of what the nexus 5 offers
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colsecomb said:
As you like aosp it is worth mentioning the note 2 had a good selection of custom roms, aosp, aokp, stock and hybrid. Omni rom had just released an (almost) stable kit kat 4.4 rom. Thus offering a lot of what the nexus 5 offers
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I'm using RootBox v4.2 (as seen in my signature) and I love the flashy window animations and scroll effects. It's still based on 4.2.2 though - because 4.3 uses TRIM, it needs a full wipe so I haven't really been bothered to look for another ROM.
Do you know any 4.3/4.4 ROMs that have rather fancy animations?

[Q] Any of you switching to the new htc one or GS5?

I have been thinking about getting the s5 since I am on the jump program but I'm not so sure it's a better phone than my note 3.
Do you guys have any good reasons to switch or not switch ?

I'm in the same boat, I can jump in a week and am looking at both those same phones.
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I'm thinking the new Sony
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Exfex21 said:
I have been thinking about getting the s5 since I am on the jump program but I'm not so sure it's a better phone than my note 3.
Do you guys have any good reasons to switch or not switch ?
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The S5 is not an upgrade from our device at all, less RAM, slightly better CPU, not enough of an upgrade to jump to that device. now if you were on a s3 then yeah it would be.

None of these newer phones have any must have features or much improved specs compared to the note 3. Depending on how much improved the note 4 is to the note 3 (majorly looking at larger internal storage options and hopefully android 4.5 or 5.0) I might even just wait til note 5 comes out. The note 3 is still "the real phone" to contend with and has lots of staying power.
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Yea no other device holds my interest besides the note 4. Unless the next nexus device is made by Samsung. Hell even a better idea, Google should make the note devices their nexus devices. Killer specs for eons. Here's to hopes and dreams

The Note 3 is my last Samsung phone for a while. The S5 looks great but it'll be KNOXed and the device tree will lag phone release by many months due to Samsung's anti-developer stance, we'll be fighting Samsung for any progress at all. So despite the best 5" display in a phone and huge battery it's only for the TW crowd.
OTOH HTC's M8 comes in developer edition, no bootloader lock, has prob 80% as good display, sdcard like Samsung, and far better camera too. They don't hate developers iirc. I'd rather support HTC esp considering none of these are cheap hardware.
If you have a Note 3 keep it and enjoy the best phone. If you have a S4 then upgrade to M8. S5 isn't worth it.

The 'All New' HTC One doesn't look as nice as the old one, in my opinion. The original One looked classy, this one just looks kinda regular. Also, the specs really aren't better than even the Note 3, let alone the upcoming Note 4.
As for the S5 (and the One), I don't think I could ever go back to a phone that small. My last phone was the original Note, and now with the Note 3, i've kind of settled into jolly green giant territory and will never leave.
If The next Nexus device were at least 5.5", I might be tempted to switch, but i'm not sure. Probably not gonna happen though.

No newly released, soon to be released, or later this year appears better than my Note 3. Only a Note 4 can make me upgrade at this time.
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Concur... nothing interests me... my Note 3 works great.

HTC will never be in these hands. They suck
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HTC will never be in these hands. They suck
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I dunno man, if they bring a "max" version of it out I might think about it.

S5 is like am S4+. Htc one the camera sucks. I'll be honest, if the One had a better camera I might have just gotten it. But now I'm just going to wait for the Note 4.
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HTC are for women they make "maxi" pads.
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Galaxy s5
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I dunno man, if they bring a "max" version of it out I might think about it.
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I was looking at HTC one m8. Looks sexy but a 4megapixel camera. Really? I just dunno what they was thinking. The max looks nice but let's see how the screw us over.
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I also am eligible for an upgrade on the Jump plan next week.
The only current phone that interests me is the Sony Z2, and it does not look like TMO will get it soon, if at all.
Kind of hate to "waste" the 6 month Jump. May just get the S5, then I'll have another free upgrade in time for the Note 4.
BTW, I confirmed with TMO that if you have the legacy 6 month Jump upgrade program, you will continue to be eligible to upgrade every 6 months for as long as you have Jump.
Not sure yet what I will do next week....

I think I'll buy it but still keep my note 3.
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sfin54 said:
I also am eligible for an upgrade on the Jump plan next week.
The only current phone that interests me is the Sony Z2, and it does not look like TMO will get it soon, if at all.
Kind of hate to "waste" the 6 month Jump. May just get the S5, then I'll have another free upgrade in time for the Note 4.
BTW, I confirmed with TMO that if you have the legacy 6 month Jump upgrade program, you will continue to be eligible to upgrade every 6 months for as long as you have Jump.
Not sure yet what I will do next week....
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This. The whole reason I got jump was to jump around and try different phones. I will probably get the m8. If I don't like it,no big deal I will jump again in 6 months to the note 4 or nexus.
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dipole said:
This. The whole reason I got jump was to jump around and try different phones. I will probably get the m8. If I don't like it,no big deal I will jump again in 6 months to the note 4 or nexus.
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I thought the same thing. If we're paying for jump, we should at least use it. I'm jumping to the M8. Seems nice. Then, maybe the Note 4. But if they increase the size on the new note by a lot, don't think I'll get it. Note 2 was big enough, note 3 is bare able. A bigger version would be to much for me

Still worth picking up a note 3

Looking for new toy AMD I've always been intrigued by the note 3. Was considering grabbing one from T-Mobile is it still worth it ? Sure they will be announcing the note 4 soon .
I currently have the nexus 5 and like it but crave a bigger screen .
Is there root for the note 3
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You're at the half way point. Have a phone that's been half a year out... or wait half a year for the Note 4. Your call.
Yes, there's root out. It's XDA after all.

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You're at the half way point. Have a phone that's been half a year out... or wait half a year for the Note 4. Your call.
Yes, there's root out. It's XDA after all.
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Not all gave root here on XDA sadly
And from read the note 4 is going to have a wrap around screen
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I have the note 3 and I love it. The galaxy s5 demo unit came into my store the other day and I have no desire to switch to it... don't get me wrong it's REALLY nice. But I wouldn't switch to it. I say go for the N3
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Do yourself a favor and get a note 3 you can thank me later
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Wait for note 4 boot loader / Knox situation . if it's locked and Knox situation has not changed then either get a note 3 or stay away from Samsung all together . note 4 will have that dual WiFi antenna thing which is the only feature worth getting other wise I do t see them slapping 4 g of ram of 64 GB memory . faster CPU is useless and redundant as of now specially the way google is lowering requirement for their OS. The wrap around screen thing is useless to me because my phone is always encased

OP I was in the exact situation as yours. I've been using Nexus 5 and wanting to get a bigger screen, namely a Note. I weighed in the current trend, and am convinced that Samsung isn't gonna make Note 4 super interesting, so i decided to get a Note 3.
So far I am not disappointed. Touch Wiz has matured and there is no need to deviate from stock based ROMs.
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Samsung has been crap this year. I really wouldn't have my hopes up for their next upcoming flagship. After all, it's just a phone. I waited a whole year for the damn s5 and it turned out to be a disappointment. I got the note 3 instead,and I totally recommend it. It will feel huge at first, but you will eventually adapt to the point of no return.After all, it's just a phone.

Just picked up the note 3 ....um wow just wow
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Awww my good friend. Do it, do it, it'll make you feel good good good.
Really, do yourself a favor and get the 3. I did last month and oh boy, everything is great and no you don't really need to root, I did because I can't live without Viper audio and cerberus and remove bloat to clear up memory, ( not just disable them). Using a custom rom, it was wicked but I've changed to hyper drive rom, both fantastic. So long story short get it, and become happy for ever, until next year at lease.

Or do as I did and get the Note 3 and pay the extra $ for Jump! and when the Note 4 comes out switch

CheesyNutz said:
Just picked up the note 3 ....um wow just wow
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Enjoy it bro, the "wow" factor has yet to leave me. Lots of great devs here with great roms and kernel support, as well as nice community that will help you out when in need.
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Had it since day one and there is nothing better out there now. No S5, HTC One (M8) or IPhone can beat this beauty and the beast phone. Only the Note 4 can surpass it when it comes out.
You will not regret getting a Note 3. May want to wait till S5 comes out in case you can get a Gear watch bundled for cheap if interested in it.
Ian B

I kinda agree that there really isn't anything out there better yet. I mean things like 2k display (not needed and bigger battery drain) 2gb ram is a step backwards, and no stylus (if you use it) and the Snap Dragon 801 is only 200mhz faster with the same gpu. So at the minimum I probably wouldn't even look til the 805 SoC came out or 64 bit (which isn't even needed yet).
That not even mentioning someone has to come up with something really innovative or significantly better like the isocell with OIS. At this point, we're really at a point of saturation.