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Hi,
Great to have a super-cheap Android Tablet now I've got Google apps and Market working, however the standard Amazon settings app leaves out a lot of the goodness, where can I get the 'standard' settings app?
Also has VPN support been removed from the Fire? (1vpn doesn't work) Is it possible to restore it?
I believe its missing tap/tun. At least thats what it tells me when I install OpenVPN.
spyz88 said:
I believe its missing tap/tun. At least thats what it tells me when I install OpenVPN.
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tun.ko is missing. when we get kernels going we'll be okay
death2all110 said:
tun.ko is missing. when we get kernels going we'll be okay
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Cool. I'm in Australia, and due to a locked router I can't get VPN through my home wireless to fool Amazon into thinking I'm in the US. Not sure where to go from here... a cheap USB wireless dongle and set-up an ad-hoc wireless connection with VPN on my PC?
mclad said:
Cool. I'm in Australia, and due to a locked router I can't get VPN through my home wireless to fool Amazon into thinking I'm in the US. Not sure where to go from here... a cheap USB wireless dongle and set-up an ad-hoc wireless connection with VPN on my PC?
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I honestly don't see why that couldn't work.
You can use http://unblock-us.com/ to get you around that issue.
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tun.ko is missing. when we get kernels going we'll be okay
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19645614
If anybody wants to play around with it, there you go.
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I honestly don't see why that couldn't work.
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It does work - I've used my iPhone with PPTP (and LPTP), and then enabled hotspot. Turn off location services though, some sites seem to be able to pick your real location if you don't.
death2all110 said:
I honestly don't see why that couldn't work.
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Thanks - it should work but apparently android (or at least 2.3 which the kindle is based off) is set to ignore adhoc wireless networks. I know, as I've tried with a USB wireless transmitter on my PC and my laptop's wireless, the Fire doesn't see the networks but my phone, running cyanogenmod, does. There are some files that need modded but I haven't been able to get it working.
If anyone can help in the threads below it would be appreciated
[Q] Will Adhoc WIFI be possible with software patching?
[Q] Kindle won't pickup adhoc wireless my phone will??
Wifi tethering to Kindle fire
ajq said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19645614
If anybody wants to play around with it, there you go.
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No progress in that thread yet, a couple of people have tried the tun.ko file.
There is another thread in general about VPN: How to access android.net.vpn.SETTINGS?
Both those threads need some Dev's working on them, not just noobs like me in the General forum - VPN is very important for anyone travelling or residing outside the US!!
bump. need VPN
just tried to share my PC's VPN (HMA pro) using connectify.me which makes a wireless hotspot rather than an adhoc network, but for some reason connectify drops out when the VPN is active, dammit.
VPN on the Fire itself would be so much easier...
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You can use http://unblock-us.com/ to get you around that issue.
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How to use it ? Can you guide us ?
Hi,
I'm in France and trying to set up a VPN client on the Fire TV.
The only decent I've found on the store is VPNroot which won't connect and display a "socket address family" error.
I'm using Boxpn service which works great on my desktop/mobiles.
Anyone succeeded in setting a VPN client on the ftv ?
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c0mm0n said:
Hi,
I'm in France and trying to set up a VPN client on the Fire TV.
The only decent I've found on the store is VPNroot which won't connect and display a "socket address family" error.
I'm using Boxpn service which works great on my desktop/mobiles.
Anyone succeeded in setting a VPN client on the ftv ?
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Not yet. I have tried HMA and vyprVPN the apps crash when connecting to a server. You could do what I did and install DD-WRT on your router, granted your router is compatible. It works great for me and a have everything behind that router protected by the VPN
Yes i'm working on the router side too, but still thinks it'd be great to have the client running on the FTV itself.
c0mm0n said:
Yes i'm working on the router side too, but still thinks it'd be great to have the client running on the FTV itself.
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Yeah, it would be cool to take it anywhere with you and just fire up the VPN app and get all the content without having to worry about carrying a router with you. ill keep looking into it. will update if find anything
Tun.ko with droidvpn works.
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Proxydroid with socks5 algo works.
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I'm afraid, Fire TV OS is not particularly receptive to VPN usage however, if your router supports DD-WRT firmware, it's a good news because DD-WRT has the option of selecting different VPN configurations like: PPTP, L2TP or OpenVPN and Once configured, users on the network don’t need to enter a log in process when they need to activate the VPN. It just starts automatically, so any device connects automatically and easily, giving you all the benefits of using a reliable VPN service.
^^ Macuser just mentioned the tun.ko vpn module got it working. Theres a tun.ko installer by droidvpn in the playstore that some of u guys may want to mess with.
i tried to follow Rose Ab's idea
i found an old router with dd-wrt on it, i now have to networks: one local and one connected via vpn which has the AFTV on it.
it works great
lanfeust said:
i tried to follow Rose Ab's idea
i found an old router with dd-wrt on it, i now have to networks: one local and one connected via vpn which has the AFTV on it.
it works great
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Care to share how you configured the two networks? I'm thinking about doing the same thing, but can't find a reliable guide to do so.
I have two routers - both configured with dd-wrt. I find that when I plug my second router (w/vpn) into the first's LAN port, I can never get a connection to pass through. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Care to share how you configured the two networks? I'm thinking about doing the same thing, but can't find a reliable guide to do so.
I have two routers - both configured with dd-wrt. I find that when I plug my second router (w/vpn) into the first's LAN port, I can never get a connection to pass through. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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actually, i have one router for my "usefull" network wich is configured as a gateway (you can use your internet box too). The other is configured as a vpn connected client, connected on the first, making a network for devices that need to be connected to the USA. I use purevpn and they have good tutorials for tomato or ddwrt and other kind of routers.
I also have a NAS with two ethernet ports... each connected on a different network, so it can be available from the fire tv and my computer
lanfeust said:
actually, i have one router for my "usefull" network wich is configured as a gateway (you can use your internet box too). The other is configured as a vpn connected client, connected on the first, making a network for devices that need to be connected to the USA. I use purevpn and they have good tutorials for tomato or ddwrt and other kind of routers.
I also have a NAS with two ethernet ports... each connected on a different network, so it can be available from the fire tv and my computer
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Thanks for clarifying. I think I got it working on my end by configuring the 2nd router to use the first router's IP address as the gateway and local DNS server. Still not my preferred option (waiting for the PIA android app to function by itself), but it will work for now. Cheers.
wouldnt it be better to just load up DDWRT on a router and configure your vpn from there?
macuser said:
Tun.ko with droidvpn works.
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Can you tell us a little more about how you got this working?
Thanks
The best option avalaible is proxydroid.
Droidvpn is too slow.
Knowing this, if you still prefer using a vpn just let me know.
macuser said:
The best option avalaible is proxydroid.
Droidvpn is too slow.
Knowing this, if you still prefer using a vpn just let me know.
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Can you explain the settings on the router side? I have dd-wrt
OpenVPN running both natively and on router
justin6162 said:
Can you explain the settings on the router side? I have dd-wrt
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There is a thread on reddit that explains both using the OpenVPN client directly on FireTV or split-routing setup.
Here is the link to use the OpenVPN client natively on FireTV:
reddit.com/r/fireTV/comments/2b4hlh/finally_got_vpn_working/
Here is the link to use OpenVPN on the router and selectively route traffic over the tunnel for the FireTV:
reddit.com/r/fireTV/comments/2b4hlh/finally_got_vpn_working/cjwup38
I'm sure you can adapt the instructions to suit dd-wrt. And if you can't, maybe you should switch over to OpenWRT.
P.s. I'm a lurker so I cannot generate links until I've posted 10 times. Maybe a mod can do it, or someone else can repost it, or better yet, transcribe the instructions.
snappywan said:
There is a thread on reddit that explains both using the OpenVPN client directly on FireTV or split-routing setup.
Here is the link to use the OpenVPN client natively on FireTV:
reddit.com/r/fireTV/comments/2b4hlh/finally_got_vpn_working/
Here is the link to use OpenVPN on the router and selectively route traffic over the tunnel for the FireTV:
reddit.com/r/fireTV/comments/2b4hlh/finally_got_vpn_working/cjwup38
I'm sure you can adapt the instructions to suit dd-wrt. And if you can't, maybe you should switch over to OpenWRT.
P.s. I'm a lurker so I cannot generate links until I've posted 10 times. Maybe a mod can do it, or someone else can repost it, or better yet, transcribe the instructions.
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I was able to get a split tunnel up and running on an ASUS RT-N66U router running Merlin Firmware. The VPN in Merlin is basically a port of OpenVPN in the tomato firmware implementation. The first step is to create the VPN tunnel and then you can setup the separate routes. For Private Internet Access (PIA). I used the following instructions to setup the tunnel:
https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/forum/index.php?p=/discussion/110/updated-tomato-setup-for-newer-branches-including-tomatousb/p1
Next I followed the instructions on this page for setting up a separate route for my FireTv. With this configuration my AFTV goes through the VPN tunnel and everything else goes through the normal Wan to my ISP. I followed the following instruction. Look at page 2 of the post for the instructions by WIZIN
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9311&highlight=split
This is tailored for ASUS routers, but the idea should not be too difficult to implement on and dd-wrt o tomato firmware.
For me this is a much cleaner solution than running something on the AFTV. It starts up and shuts down with the router, so I don' have worry about restarting it when I reboot on the AFTV or it using CPU and memory on the AFTV.
Please help
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I'm afraid, Fire TV OS is not particularly receptive to VPN usage however, if your router supports DD-WRT firmware, it's a good news because DD-WRT has the option of selecting different VPN configurations like: PPTP, L2TP or OpenVPN and Once configured, users on the network don’t need to enter a log in process when they need to activate the VPN. It just starts automatically, so any device connects automatically and easily, giving you all the benefits of using a reliable VPN service.
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I have a fire tv and would like to have a backup to connect to the office. I have a Asus N900 which has asuswrt fimrware. How do I setup the client to connect I am getting bad config on mine when trying to connect. IPCP -timeout sending config-requests.
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I seem to have hit a bit of bad luck.
I have ATT Uverse with their 3800HGV-B Gateway, and a Netgear WNDR4300 behind it. As Uverse gateway wouldn't block the amzdigitaldownloads.edgesuite.net, softwareupdates.amazon.com domains, I "blocked" them on the Netgear router, and AFTV is connected via Ethernet to the Netgear box.
I ordered AFTV from Staples and was lucky to get a rootable version (v620), the above blocking was not effective and v820 got downloaded but didn't autoinstall. I went ahead and Rooted it using AFTV Utility, and made a mistake!! of not disabling OTA updates on AFTV. I was make a mistake and clicked in the OTA menu and lost all root
I tried another AFTV box, and this installed OTA and went straight to v520. I have used AFTV Utlity to block further updates hoping it might be easier to get Root on this version than v820.
My "blocking" on Netgear router is clearly not working.
I MAY give this another try w/ a new AFTV order but need to know how to block the sites using Uverse Router. I would really like to get a Rootable AFTV, as I want to have XBMC assessable via the home page, pair my Wii Remotes, etc.
Is there anyway to determine the stock FW version based on AFTV DSN Number.
Any guidance would be most appreciated.
I really want the Root
Umm, ~200 views and no replies. I hope soem guru chimes in
First off, you should ask questions in the q&a forum. You get better results. But hold on, let me find my spoon...I don't use a netgear router so I can't tell u exactly what to do but you can probably Google it. On the router, you would need to look for parental controls or firewall areas. Use key word blocking or url blocking and block the required sites. They are listed around this forum somewhere. Then before you even power up your firetv, use your computer and try and download the software updates from Amazon. If you have your router set up correctly it should give you an error and not let you get them.
Edit: quick Google search turned up this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760884
Thanks for taking the time to post a reply. The issue I have is wrt the interaction of UVerse Gateway and the 2nd Netgear Router behind it. As DNS is still handled by Uverse, (I think) Netgear router is not able to block it. I have that part configured. I will try and block the additional URL in the thread. Thanks again.
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Thanks for taking the time to post a reply. The issue I have is wrt the interaction of UVerse Gateway and the 2nd Netgear Router behind it. As DNS is still handled by Uverse, (I think) Netgear router is not able to block it. I have that part configured. I will try and block the additional URL in the thread. Thanks again.
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I don't use UVerse but I have a similar setup with a router behind a gateway. Can't you disable DNS on the gateway and configure the router to handle DNS?
I can't offer specifics on UVerse as I don't use it but on mine I just turn off DNS on the gateway and let my router handle it.
The easy way to do it is to open a free account on opendns.com and block from there. After root, follow this guide: http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-block-ota-update-for-amazon-fire-tv-and-keep-root-access/
Do you have DD-WRT installed on your Netgear? If so, I have the same setup (except I have a Time Warner cable in place of Uverse). Using the the DNSMasq on my Netgear does prevent DNS lookups. I can confirm that with my setup. The Netgear does not need to pass through the DNS look-up further upstream if you properly set up your Masq options in DD-WRT. I have used 2 routers with DD-WRT setup and both have worked as intended.
The reason I can say that it works is that my updates were blocked, but more importantly, any pings to the the blocked addresses from my laptop (hooked to the same Netgear router) results in the bogus IP I put (127.0.0.1). One thing you want to make sure to test your setup is to make sure that you ping it on a computer and make sure that you don't have any static DNS entries for your network adapter on your machine that you are testing with.
If you have DD-WRT installed or plan to install it, please update the thread and I can post some pictures of my setup.
jmerrilljr2 said:
The easy way to do it is to open a free account on opendns.com and block from there. After root, follow this guide: http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-block-ota-update-for-amazon-fire-tv-and-keep-root-access/
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Bingo. I had to do this when my router blocks were not working. Before I even plugged in my FTV, I tested the update web addresses in my browser. If I hadn't of done that, then I would've thought that my router block was working and lost root as soon as I plugged it in. Instead, I saw that my router blocks were eff'd, and signed up for OpenDNS. Confirmed the blocks in my browser...THEN, I plugged in the FTV for the first time.
Anytime you only get one shot at something, you really want to make sure that you get it right and don't miss.
Now that Staples has AFTV down to $84, I will try my luck again and use OpenDNS setup. Hopefully I can get a "rootable" FW version out of the box.
BTW, Uverse Gateway sucks
Legolas2 said:
Now that Staples has AFTV down to $84, I will try my luck again and use OpenDNS setup. Hopefully I can get a "rootable" FW version out of the box.
BTW, Uverse Gateway sucks
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I took a look at a pdf of your 3800HGV-B Gateway modem and it apparently does bridge mode.
Bridge mode will make it act like a modem only, and let your router take care of DNS & all the other settings. It's how I have my home set up (I have comcast though, different hardware), as in my experience the modem/routers you get from your ISP usually sucks.
Might want to take a look into that.
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I took a look at a pdf of your 3800HGV-B Gateway modem and it apparently does bridge mode.
Bridge mode will make it act like a modem only, and let your router take care of DNS & all the other settings. It's how I have my home set up (I have comcast though, different hardware), as in my experience the modem/routers you get from your ISP usually sucks.
Might want to take a look into that.
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Thanks Nyder. I managed to get 3800HGV into bridge mode and was able to block the Amazon sites from my computer. Will get to installing the new Fire TV (hopefully, it is rootable).
I wish AT&T had made this easy, it was PITA to get it working, w/ multiple factory resets needed to get it done right.
I recently got a UK Fire TV so I can't root it, but I still want to block updates just in case.
I'm running a TP-Link WDR3600 with DD-WRT and I have set it to block the three URLs* using the devices static IP and MAC address.
However, when I go to the "check for system update" option it still lists the last check as 'today'.
I did additional tests using firefox on the device itself and it can block URLs (for this test Google) but I'm not sure whether the updates are blocked.
For now I've disconnected it just in case and OpenDNS isn't an option for me as I have a shared IP address.
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firs-ta-g7g.amazon.com
softwareupdates.amazon.com
amzdigitaldownloads.edgesuite.net
from what i read blocking the update URLs is useless, you might as well let it update and wait for a new root procedure.
DEREKTROTTER said:
from what i read blocking the update URLs is useless, you might as well let it update and wait for a new root procedure.
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Not true. Just go to the URL in your browser and see if your router stops you. Mine didn't, so I setup an OpenDNS account. That worked.
OpenDNS also worked great for me as well.
Using a VPN kills the OpenDNS block on the Amazon updates, so make sure you do the internal block if you plan on using a VPN.
retroben said:
OpenDNS also worked great for me as well.
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Thanks for the responses, unfortunately OpenDNS isn't really an option since I live in a flat where we share a connection/IP address.
So I guess I'm just going to have to risk it then or maybe look up alternatives.
In case I do try something, what is the way to tell? Does it just pop up with an error message?
tech3475 said:
Thanks for the responses, unfortunately OpenDNS isn't really an option since I live in a flat where we share a connection/IP address.
So I guess I'm just going to have to risk it then or maybe look up alternatives.
In case I do try something, what is the way to tell? Does it just pop up with an error message?
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If you give the fire tv a static ip address, you have to manually fill in the dns servers.
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If you give the fire tv a static ip address, you have to manually fill in the dns servers.
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The problem is not how I'd set it up but that it could cause other issues, for example, if someone else uses opendns to block something which I want.
tech3475 said:
The problem is not how I'd set it up but that it could cause other issues, for example, if someone else uses opendns to block something which I want.
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Can you guys not talk to each other to figure out a plan that works for all?
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Can you guys not talk to each other to figure out a plan that works for all?
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No, it would be impractical if not impossible where I am.
In the end I decided to give it a shot anyway, just have to hope I'm the only one using opendns.
So far so good.
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from what i read blocking the update URLs is useless, you might as well let it update and wait for a new root procedure.
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I did a lot of tests to day (UK fire tv)
you get different IP for that URL depending on what DNS you use unblockus,google,isp etc etc
so im not sure I think its all in the lap of the gods
I am so poised on smashing this thing up :¬) I will enjoy it
tech3475 said:
I recently got a UK Fire TV so I can't root it, but I still want to block updates just in case.
I'm running a TP-Link WDR3600 with DD-WRT and I have set it to block the three URLs* using the devices static IP and MAC address.
However, when I go to the "check for system update" option it still lists the last check as 'today'.
I did additional tests using firefox on the device itself and it can block URLs (for this test Google) but I'm not sure whether the updates are blocked.
For now I've disconnected it just in case and OpenDNS isn't an option for me as I have a shared IP address.
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firs-ta-g7g.amazon.com
softwareupdates.amazon.com
amzdigitaldownloads.edgesuite.net
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All settings on DD-WRT:
Go to Settings. Under that make sure your tab is again "Settings".
Under the subsection DNSMasq, put these options.
DNSMasq: Enable
Local DNS: Disable
No DNS Rebind: Enable
Additional DNSMasq Options: Copy these 4 lines and paste into that textbox.
#block amazon firetv update
address=/amzdigitaldownloads.edgesuite.net/127.0.0.1
address=/softwareupdates.amazon.com/127.0.0.1
strict-order
Also, refer to the PDF file. Look at the section "Network Setup". Within that look at "Router IP" and "DHCP". Change your private subnet to whatever you wish to use, mine is 192.168.5.0/24.
Once you have the setup, reboot your router. Next, reboot your computer and ping one of the above DNS address. You should get a reply back from "127.0.0.1". Next reboot your FTV and verify.
I have the same setup and works for me.
NOTE: MY TIME WARNER MODEM/ROUTER IS IN BRIDGED MODE. Meaning, it is a simple pass through and all router related functionality is disabled. Works solely as a dumb modem.
NOTE: Simple URL blocking is not sufficient. That ONLY blocks HTTP access, not HTTPS.
Thanks, that seems to have done the trick.
I following this article on AFTVnews to block url string "montoya-ota" on my router, but my FireTVstick still found and installed the latest update 54.1.1.0 .......... and yes, I have verified with other url string that this blocking method does work on my router.
So now I have the latest FireTVstick firmware installed, not really a big deal but just wonder if other blocking methods still works, if so, let me know which as I'd still like to have control on if I want an update from Amazon or not
I used this part of that same guide
"If your router is capable of blocking access to specific domains, set it to block the following 3 domains:
amzdigitaldownloads.edgesuite.net
softwareupdates.amazon.com
updates.amazon.com"
And that blocks updates to my Fire TV Stick and Fire TV.
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I used this part of that same guide
"If your router is capable of blocking access to specific domains, set it to block the following 3 domains:
amzdigitaldownloads.edgesuite.net
softwareupdates.amazon.com
updates.amazon.com"
And that blocks updates to my Fire TV Stick and Fire TV.
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Thanks, I will configure my router to block those 3 URL's
Are there any side-effect with blocking those ? Like any problems with upgrading Apps and/or playing Amazon Prime movies, etc ?
lowbee said:
Thanks, I will configure my router to block those 3 URL's
Are there any side-effect with blocking those ? Like any problems with upgrading Apps and/or playing Amazon Prime movies, etc ?
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I haven't ran into any problems.
lowbee said:
I following this article on AFTVnews to block url string "montoya-ota" on my router, but my FireTVstick still found and installed the latest update 54.1.1.0
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Sorry guys, false alarm. I figured out what was wrong.
My router was blocking URL string "montoya-ota" for non-VPN traffic OK; however, I just realized that the router isn't blocking VPN traffic for the FireTV stick where all its data is passing thru a VPN tunnel. Duh :silly: Good thing I used pm disable com.amazon.dcp on my other FireTV boxes.