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Desire to use PC's internet

Is there anyway I can have my desire use my PC's internet when it is connected via usb?
At this stage I dont have wifi at work and cant use that method.
Essentially I want to reverse the direction of tethering when the phone is connected to my computer.
Thanks, Dean

Unfortunately, reverse tethering or connecting the phone through computer's Internet connection (through an ad hoc wifi) is not possible, which is quite annoying. It would be nice if this type of feature, although highly unlikely, could be incorporated an upcoming ROM update for example.

That is annoying, especially since I could do this with my old WM - although thanks for the reply and info.
I wonder if it could be done through an app perhaps.
Cheers, Dean

dwphoto said:
That is annoying, especially since I could do this with my old WM - although thanks for the reply and info.
I wonder if it could be done through an app perhaps.
Cheers, Dean
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Yes it's extremely annoying. I had this on my HD and HD2, but i really don't know why HTC could not incorporate this with the Desire. Afterall, it's a desirable (excuse pun) feature.

it has nothing to do with your phone, since it all depends on the host computer. On mac: you can do it easily by sharing your internet connection in system preferences.

MasDroid said:
Unfortunately, reverse tethering or connecting the phone through computer's Internet connection (through an ad hoc wifi) is not possible, which is quite annoying. It would be nice if this type of feature, although highly unlikely, could be incorporated an upcoming ROM update for example.
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maybe i misunderstood you, but its perfectly possible to make an adhoc wifi network, and connect to the internet on your desire
pina_ said:
it has nothing to do with your phone, since it all depends on the host computer. On mac: you can do it easily by sharing your internet connection in system preferences.
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it has everything to do with your phone. If the phone has no interface for it, it won't work.
Can't say whether it works or not, just saying that it does not depend solely on your computer

ziao said:
maybe i misunderstood you, but its perfectly possible to make an adhoc wifi network, and connect to the internet on your desire
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I dont think so ... I have tried and also read that it doesnot work!

rackspace said:
I dont think so ... I have tried and also read that it doesnot work!
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odd, because i use it nearly everyday

So does this mean I can do it or not ?
Do I need and ad-hoc wifi network - what exactly is this ?
Thanks

dwphoto said:
So does this mean I can do it or not ?
Do I need and ad-hoc wifi network - what exactly is this ?
Thanks
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If your computer has a wifi card (laptops usually do, desktops don't) you can create a local network and connect your desire to it.
No idea if it's possible over a wire

You don't need to create an ad-hoc network, just download connectify and use it as a hotspot on your laptop, then connect the Desire to the hotspot you just created and that's it.

neur0x said:
You don't need to create an ad-hoc network, just download connectify and use it as a hotspot on your laptop, then connect the Desire to the hotspot you just created and that's it.
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Ahh that is handy!
Thanks for the tip

I created an adhoc network following this: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/networking/setup/adhoc.mspx
The host laptop itself can see the adhoc network, but desire cannot.
Any ideas?

Maybe I'm wrong but AFAIK Desire can't 'see' ad-hoc networks, only access points. You can get internet from PC, but only using Connectify under Windows 7 or by using advanced magic under Linux.
Am I right or something has changed lately?
BTW: does anybody share internet from Linux? Any suggestions?

As far as i know, you can only see an ad-hoc network if you have the desire rooted and change some files somewhere (can't remember which ones...), either way the next best thing is to use some kind of software that creates an Wifi Access Point.

I don't get it: why would you want to connect to the internet via your PC instead of directly connecting to your WiFi router ?

Maybe when you only have a LAN-connection?

Or Maybe when your in Work and only have a Lan Setup
and want to access / download things on your phone,
Reverse USB tethering would be AMAZING!!!!!

Flaggie said:
Maybe when you only have a LAN-connection?
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Stupid me, just hadn't realized that still not everyone has a WiFi capable router nowadays...

The problem with ad-hoc internet sharing is that your host PC still needs a WiFi connection. You can't use internet through USB. I've tried it yesterday at work (yes, for the Froyo update ), but no succes.
Having a smartphone in a country with high mobile data costs is like having a Ferrari to do your local grocery shopping Fortunately I'll have unlimited mobile internet next week. So I can finally use my Desire as intended.

Bluetooth tether to tablet

Sorry if this has been brought up already but for some reaskn i cannot do a search on the forums. Trying to Bluetooth tether to my transformer tablet to share the internet connection from my epic touch.. I am on caulkins el29 from. I get them both paired but the two never connect, just says paired but not connected. Is there a way to do this to get it to work or is this something sprint disabled?

Not sure about bluetooth but why not use the regular hotspot if you're just using it for internet access?

nobrakes said:
Not sure about bluetooth but why not use the regular hotspot if you're just using it for internet access?
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nobrakes said:
Not sure about bluetooth but why not use the regular hotspot if you're just using it for internet access?
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Guess I figured the Bluetooth might be harder for sprint to track but I suppose the experts here at xda have taken care of that with the hot spot mod.

jhcomputerguy said:
Guess I figured the Bluetooth might be harder for sprint to track but I suppose the experts here at xda have taken care of that with the hot spot mod.
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yeah, but, if you want to be extra sure use the 'wifi tether' app....
....but I wouldn't worry about it either way.
I didn't know Android devices could connect as a BT-DUN client....I know you can be the server with certain apps, but, the client thing is news to me...not that I ever looked into it, lol.

[Q] Fake Wifi connection when on Ethernet

Howdy folks, I am looking to find out if there is a way to have Wifi show as active and the primary network connection when the FireTV is actually connected via Ethernet. Many apps, specifically streaming apps, require a wifi connection and will not run without it. I prefer to run my FireTV via Ethernet due to the environment mine is in.
This type of hack or workaround would also be useful for the Ouya and any other android device that has an Ethernet port.
To sum up, I am looking for a hack or workaround that will present the Ethernet connection as Wifi to the OS or applications.
I found this document, and page 30 reference what I am looking to do:
http://www.elinux.org/images/9/98/Dive_Into_Android_Networking-_Adding_Ethernet_Connectivity.pdf
Thoughts?
Thanks!

This would benefit our android phones as many apps won't work over carrier network to avoid data overages. I got unlimited data and get better speeds from Verizon than I do at home. If it was an app, xposed module, or some other mod, I would pay for it.
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A better way would be contacting the developers of that particular app and having them fix it, so that Ethernet is treated the same way as Wi-Fi.

Chahk said:
A better way would be contacting the developers of that particular app and having them fix it, so that Ethernet is treated the same way as Wi-Fi.
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It is only an assumption, but I am guessing that apps such as the Xfinity TV app by Comcast are setup that way so that people can not use devices such as the FireTV and the Ouya as a replacement for renting a set top box from them. Yes, I can get around this issue by going on wifi, but why use an worst connection method when there may be another way around it? Also Androids open environment is supposed to encourage the creation of alternative ways of doing things.
Looking through other threads, there appears to be a desire for an app that spoofs wifi for people who are also only on 4G or other wireless methods. Having an app on android that could spoof a wifi connection when you are 3G or 4G wireless would be just as useful for some people.

Spelvin said:
Looking through other threads, there appears to be a desire for an app that spoofs wifi for people who are also only on 4G or other wireless methods. Having an app on android that could spoof a wifi connection when you are 3G or 4G wireless would be just as useful for some people.
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I can see the usefulness of such an app, but it would probably require a rooted device. As far as I know, Fire TV has not been rooted yet.

It has been rooted. But the method has not been shared yet. I believe he said it wasn't ready for release yet. Something along those lines. At any rate it will be eventually
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Since Fire TV is rooted how do we go about faking WiFi when wired?

Looks like it actually exists!
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.lemonsqueeze.fakewificonnection
You need Xposed installed to run it.
Enjoy!

[Q] Fire TV Wirless/Hotspot

Hi, I currently have my FTV connected to my router using a wired connection. I tried to make a wireless hotspot using FTV by using the Wifi Tether Router app. It works fine. I can see the access point and I can connect my laptop and my IPhone to it and surf the internet without any issues.
The problem starts when I connect FTV to my router using the build in wireless card. At this point, if I enable the router (through the app), it disconnects my outgoing wireless connection from FTV to my outside router. The hotspot is ON and working, I can connect to it fine with my laptop, but of course, its useless as there is no outside connection.
My question is, is this possible? Using the internal wireless infrastructure in FTV to both act as a software router (through the app or any other app) and also use it for my outgoing connection to the WAN. Can it do both simultaneously? If possible, does anyone have any suggested settings for this app (Wifi Tether Router)
If no one has any experience with this app, is there other app that makes this possible, paid or free? Thanks.

You only have one radio which can either be used as a client or access point.. But not both at the same time.
This works on phones as it uses the GSM or CDMA radio for the wan and the WiFi for lan.

Ok, thanks. If it helps, I have a USB hub connected to FTV. My wireless keyboard and mouse combo is hooked to that and works. I have a Wireless USB adapter from CompUSA (the kind you plug into a desktop to get wireless capability) which I can use by attaching to the USB hub. Can that somehow be used to accomplish this? I know I can always buy a Wifi as WAN router like CradlePoint, but curious if this can be done through FTV.
Edit: In a way, the next logical question is, can an external USB wireless adapter be used with FTV for its outgoing WAN? If so, how? I have the StickMount loaded and I can browse through another storage USB through ES File Manager. Probably not related, but thats the setup I have now.

dbdoshi said:
Ok, thanks. If it helps, I have a USB hub connected to FTV. My wireless keyboard and mouse combo is hooked to that and works. I have a Wireless USB adapter from CompUSA (the kind you plug into a desktop to get wireless capability) which I can use by attaching to the USB hub. Can that somehow be used to accomplish this? I know I can always buy a Wifi as WAN router like CradlePoint, but curious if this can be done through FTV.
Edit: In a way, the next logical question is, can an external USB wireless adapter be used with FTV for its outgoing WAN? If so, how? I have the StickMount loaded and I can browse through another storage USB through ES File Manager. Probably not related, but thats the setup I have now.
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Doubt there are drivers for a USB WiFi dongle.
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which tethering app did you use exactly?

The Wifi Tether Router. I can't post links yet.

dbdoshi said:
Edit: In a way, the next logical question is, can an external USB wireless adapter be used with FTV for its outgoing WAN? .
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This is what I'd try. I'd look to see if other Android STBs can run an external wireless card and if so, try to find the cheapest one with the same wifi chipset.
The problem is going to be in telling the OS to use one adapter for uplink and one for hotspot duty. In theory it's possible, in practice - well, keep the cost of the second dongle below 30 bucks and tell us your findings.
Here's a device some Ouya folks use http://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-WNCE2001-Universal-Internet-Adapter/dp/B007CO5DZ4
that link is to the refurb, new they're just north of 50. Here's a similar one that goes new for 25-35
http://www.amazon.com/IOGEAR-Universal-Ethernet-Adapter-GWU627/dp/B004UAKCS6/ref=pd_cp_pc_1
Basically, you configure it (connected to a PC) then you connect the device to the ethernet port on your fireTV, it acts as a bridge to the wifi network over the ethernet, so potentially you could then use the wifi onboard as your access point.
Probably you could, actually - you've described doing just that already but using a whole cable run, right?

IMHO if your gonna drop $ might as well by an access point.. They can be had for cheap and you won't be tying up your firetv handling network traffic.

roustabout said:
Probably you could, actually - you've described doing just that already but using a whole cable run, right?
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Thanks for the suggestions, I will give it a shot in the near future.
I am sorry, I missed the last line, don't understand what you are saying there... Thanks.

dbdoshi said:
Thanks for the suggestions, I will give it a shot in the near future.
I am sorry, I missed the last line, don't understand what you are saying there... Thanks.
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Just that in your initial post, you describe running ethernet to your fire and also getting the wifi to work as a hotspot.
Since you'll still be delivering network to the fire ethernet port, this setup will look to the fire as if you've run ethernet to it all the way from your router, and it ought to work just the same.

roustabout said:
Just that in your initial post, you describe running ethernet to your fire and also getting the wifi to work as a hotspot.
Since you'll still be delivering network to the fire ethernet port, this setup will look to the fire as if you've run ethernet to it all the way from your router, and it ought to work just the same.
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Yep, got it, thanks!!

mastafunk said:
You only have one radio which can either be used as a client or access point.. But not both at the same time.
This works on phones as it uses the GSM or CDMA radio for the wan and the WiFi for lan.
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Not doubting this on FTV, but the matricom mx2 boxes can be used as a wireless hotspot as long as you have it on ethernet.
Once you have an unlocked bootloader, you might have acess to traditional android settings like the mx2 with a custom rom. Just an idea...

byrdcfmma said:
Not doubting this on FTV, but the matricom mx2 boxes can be used as a wireless hotspot as long as you have it on ethernet.
Once you have an unlocked bootloader, you might have acess to traditional android settings like the mx2 with a custom rom. Just an idea...
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He's already done that.. Said so in first post.. He is looking to do a hotspot and get internet both from WiFi.

mastafunk said:
He's already done that.. Said so in first post.. He is looking to do a hotspot and get internet both from WiFi.
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Lol... I must have read it fast and not paid attention

mastafunk said:
He's already done that.. Said so in first post.. He is looking to do a hotspot and get internet both from WiFi.
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That is correct. Works beautifully with ethernet WAN. Works so well that it seems to have a higher broadcast power than my oldish Netgear router. They both sit side by side in my bedroom. As soon as I walk to my garage, my IPhone loses the router, but with FTV it stays connected, with 2 semi circle bars. Also, it chugs along even when FTV goes into sleep mode.

roustabout said:
This is what I'd try. I'd look to see if other Android STBs can run an external wireless card and if so, try to find the cheapest one with the same wifi chipset.
The problem is going to be in telling the OS to use one adapter for uplink and one for hotspot duty. In theory it's possible, in practice - well, keep the cost of the second dongle below 30 bucks and tell us your findings.
Here's a device some Ouya folks use http://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-WNCE2001-Universal-Internet-Adapter/dp/B007CO5DZ4
that link is to the refurb, new they're just north of 50. Here's a similar one that goes new for 25-35
http://www.amazon.com/IOGEAR-Universal-Ethernet-Adapter-GWU627/dp/B004UAKCS6/ref=pd_cp_pc_1
Basically, you configure it (connected to a PC) then you connect the device to the ethernet port on your fireTV, it acts as a bridge to the wifi network over the ethernet, so potentially you could then use the wifi onboard as your access point.
Probably you could, actually - you've described doing just that already but using a whole cable run, right?
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Instead of a dedicated device you could purchase a chameleon type of device like this.
http://www.amazon.com/802-11b-Porta...r=1-1&keywords=mini+portable+wifi+router+asus

I would love to make my Fire TV an access point. I have a 1st gen and it is also connected via an ethernet cable. Can you tell this newbie how to do it? You mentioned Wifi Tether Router.

WiFi tethering

I might not be in the right area so if someone can point me to it I would appreciate it.
I remember a few years ago my phone the EVO I hadn't root it yet but I wanted to use my phone as a hotspot (at the time I didn't have that feature included in my plan) so j searched the internet and was able to find FoxFi wifi tethering which allowed me to use my mobile data as a hotspot.
I'm faced with that issue now on my Note 10+ and I'm looking for something similar to that so I can use my mobile data as a hotspot for my fire stick. Does anyone have any suggestions? I tried the FoxFi and pdanet in the app store but it doesn't seem to be working

Did you try Settings>Connections>Mobile Hotspot and Tethering?

mzsquared said:
Did you try Settings>Connections>Mobile Hotspot and Tethering?
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I did but Sprint only offers 50GB of hotspot

sonny82 said:
I did but Sprint only offers 50GB of hotspot
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I have Sprint and I use about 500GB a month with PDANet with all modes, USB, Bluetooth and WiFi tethering. Works flawlessly with my Vizio smart TV, Asus ROG laptop and desktop. Where are you running into trouble?

elogikal said:
I have Sprint and I use about 500GB a month with PDANet with all modes, USB, Bluetooth and WiFi tethering. Works flawlessly with my Vizio smart TV, Asus ROG laptop and desktop. Where are you running into trouble?
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Don't know where to begin..

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Don't know where to begin..
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So, for WiFi Direct Hotspot, make sure you have PDANet installed on your computer and right click on the the icon in the system tray and click "Connect to WiFi (your devices name)" and click the WPS button on your phone and you'll be connected in a few seconds. As fas as a device like a smart TV or Fire Stick, at the very top of PDANet on your phone it will say Name: DIRECT-xx-SM-N975U (or something to that effect as it WILL change every time you toggle it on and off) and Password: (upper, lower and numbers) and manually type that into the devices network settings that you are attempting to connect to and it will connect no problem. It's a bit of a pain that you have to redo it every time you toggle it, but, hey, it's free Hotspot. The BT mode on a PC is the same as above except you right click "Connect Bluetooth" and it's noticeably slower but it still functions and USB tether works the fastest in my usage on a PC. Keep in mind that if you don't have the paid version, it will cut you off after about 500MB of throughput and then you have to reconnect. I use my 100GB of Sprint allotted tether for my Netflix, Hulu, Prime, etc... and PDANet for my PC gaming needs and it works just fine. Let me know if this helps or you hit any roadblocks!

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So, for WiFi Direct Hotspot, make sure you have PDANet installed on your computer and right click on the the icon in the system tray and click "Connect to WiFi (your devices name)" and click the WPS button on your phone and you'll be connected in a few seconds. As fas as a device like a smart TV or Fire Stick, at the very top of PDANet on your phone it will say Name: DIRECT-xx-SM-N975U (or something to that effect as it WILL change every time you toggle it on and off) and Password: (upper, lower and numbers) and manually type that into the devices network settings that you are attempting to connect to and it will connect no problem. It's a bit of a pain that you have to redo it every time you toggle it, but, hey, it's free Hotspot. The BT mode on a PC is the same as above except you right click "Connect Bluetooth" and it's noticeably slower but it still functions and USB tether works the fastest in my usage on a PC. Keep in mind that if you don't have the paid version, it will cut you off after about 500MB of throughput and then you have to reconnect. I use my 100GB of Sprint allotted tether for my Netflix, Hulu, Prime, etc... and PDANet for my PC gaming needs and it works just fine. Let me know if this helps or you hit any roadblocks!
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Gotcha. What about for PlayStation or Xbox?

Here you can see my data usage which reflects to PDANet and my actual tethering usage that Sprint can see. Also, that my phone is currently connected to both my laptop and my desktop and showing my data usage as reported to Android.

sonny82 said:
Gotcha. What about for PlayStation or Xbox?
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PS or Xbox, just plug in that info at the top of PDANet in the network settings on your console.

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PS or Xbox, just plug in that info at the top of PDANet in the network settings on your console.
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Ok so I entered the password into my PlayStation and it's asking to either use or not use the Proxy Server when I hit do not use it doesn't work when I hit use it's asking for the address. Would the proxy be my phone's IP address?

sonny82 said:
Ok so I entered the password into my PlayStation and it's asking to either use or not use the Proxy Server when I hit do not use it doesn't work when I hit use it's asking for the address. Would the proxy be my phone's IP address?
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Try Proxy Address 192.168.49.1 Port 8000

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Try Proxy Address 192.168.49.1 Port 8000
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Don't know why it's not working

sonny82 said:
Don't know why it's not working
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Smh

sonny82 said:
Smh
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Probably bc it's a PS4 and not an Xbox seriously, though, change just the port to 8080. If anything else, if you have a PC with WiFi you can always try WiFi sharing in Windows 10. Lmk what other pieces of equipment you have. I'm generally pretty good at figuring out a solution to this kind of thing.