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Does anyone know if the Kindle Fire TV is compatible with any of the Harmony remotes?
Bama29 said:
Does anyone know if the Kindle Fire TV is compatible with any of the Harmony remotes?
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You would need to add and IR Reciever like a FLIRC or there are reports of this item working as well.
I can't post links, so search amazon for Ortek-Windows-Infrared-Receiver-Ultimate
rickdm said:
You would need to add and IR Reciever like a FLIRC or there are reports of this item working as well.
I can't post links, so search amazon for Ortek-Windows-Infrared-Receiver-Ultimate
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Thank You Rickdm!
some of the newer harmony remotes have bluetooth. It might be possible to use them.
I use my harmony smart to control my HTPC through blutooth using the ps3 profile... if we can get a ps3 controller to pair with the firetv (requires root) then we may be able to use the remote as well.
I can confirm that the Ortek-Windows-Infrared-Receiver-Ultimate I purchased from Amazon does indeed work with my Harmony One and the Fire TV.
How about using a phone app for the keyboard and mouse to control the fire TV. Is this possible?
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For those trying to get the Harmony up to speed...
To emulate the Back button on the Fire TV remote assign the clear key from the ORtek.
To emulate the Home Button on the Fire TV remote assign the Browser command from the ORtek. It is also the upper left key on the remote. The "e" with a circle around it.
On my Harmony One I assigned Home to the Menu key and Back to the Exit key. Neither were being used for the ORtek device.
Does anyone know if the Logitech Harmony One remote with the Logitech PS3 adapter will work? My Fire TV is rooted, Now the only thing I can come up with is using the SixaxisPairTool I will try later tonight. Any thoughts?
Thanks.
You can use Droidmote to emulate all input devices (mouse, keyboard, virtual controller). Further, my understanding is that if you have a proper cable, you can tether a PS3 controller to your Android device and use the controller that way. I have the parts, but I haven't connected the pieces just yet to confirm Controller.
nooknut said:
You can use Droidmote to emulate all input devices (mouse, keyboard, virtual controller). Further, my understanding is that if you have a proper cable, you can tether a PS3 controller to your Android device and use the controller that way. I have the parts, but I haven't connected the pieces just yet to confirm Controller.
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The Ps3 adapter doesn't have an USB port, I tried to pair, the app states that's its compatible but I can't go any further.
Flirc
I use a dongle called Flirc plugged into my AFTV with my Harmony One. Instructions here:
http://forum.flirc.tv/index.php?/topic/1116-using-flirc-with-amazon-firetv/
I was under the impression that the Harmony One could now connect via Bluetooth. http://support.myharmony.com/en/article.htm?faqid=s-m-4058
I have an older 520 that I love and use the Ortek infrared receiver: http://www.amazon.com/Ortek-Windows-Infrared-Receiver-Ultimate/dp/B00224ZDFY
It can be setup to do everything EXCEPT the contextual menus AKA the Menu button or the one one with three horizontal lines.
If someone could figure that out I would send them cash!
No Cash Required
Read the link above. Buy Flirc on Amazon for $30. Follow the guide. The Menu Key is programmed from the command line. If you have an H1, my posted config file might work. My H1 does everything but the microphone as it ain't got one.
I added a USB hub. Have Flirc (a keyboard emulator), an MS Entertainment KB/mouse, and USB stick attached.
Also Droidmote, Play Store, client/server, $3, is a great phone/tablet based remote.
The Harmony One does not do BT. Per Logitech, "Harmony remotes without Harmony Hub cannot control Amazon Fire TV." Are you confusing the H1 with the $300 Ultimate?
schneid said:
Read the link above. Buy Flirc on Amazon for $30. Follow the guide. The Menu Key is programmed from the command line. If you have an H1, my posted config file might work. My H1 does everything but the microphone as it ain't got one.
I added a USB hub. Have Flirc (a keyboard emulator), an MS Entertainment KB/mouse, and USB stick attached.
Also Droidmote, Play Store, client/server, $3, is a great phone/tablet based remote.
The Harmony One does not do BT. Per Logitech, "Harmony remotes without Harmony Hub cannot control Amazon Fire TV." Are you confusing the H1 with the $300 Ultimate?
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Yep, I was confusing the one with the ultimate...Sorry. This is why I stick to the old school 500 series.
Thank you for the correction.
Spelvin said:
Yep, I was confusing the one with the ultimate...Sorry. This is why I stick to the old school 500 series.
Thank you for the correction.
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The remote uses standard keystokes. The Menu key is the one between the right Win and right Ctrl on a standard win KB. You need to teach it that key.
Bama29 said:
I can confirm that the Ortek-Windows-Infrared-Receiver-Ultimate I purchased from Amazon does indeed work with my Harmony One and the Fire TV.
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Is it complicated to set that up. I would love to get this working with my Harmony 700
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Is it complicated to set that up. I would love to get this working with my Harmony 700
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No, it is not very complicated. It has been awhile since I did it but as I recall it did require manually learning a couple of commands. The thing that hung me up to start in the manual learning process was that I was using very deliberate slow key presses. I found out that to manually learn the couple of commands that I needed, only a very quick tap of the desired key was needed.
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No, it is not very complicated. It has been awhile since I did it but as I recall it did require manually learning a couple of commands. The thing that hung me up to start in the manual learning process was that I was using very deliberate slow key presses. I found out that to manually learn the couple of commands that I needed, only a very quick tap of the desired key was needed.
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Will it do the Menu button? i thought only Flirc could pull that off.
The Oretek can do the menu button. I believe its either "Info" or "Guide". Home key is mapped to "Browser".
The issue to look out for is that no Harmony is created equally. Case in point, I use a 900 upstairs with the Oretek. Works fine. Button response a bit slow even with the key delay set all the way to 0ms. But it's useable.
I have a Harmony 890 downstairs with an Oretek. Infuriating! Not only would it not communicate the IR signals properly (had to learn all commands from the Oretek as RAW, but on top of that, with the inter-key delay set to 0 so I didn't get repeat keys AND the key delay set to 0ms, it is still slow as molasses, and I have not found a combo that both delivers the signal correctly AND makes the key presses fast enough to be useable.
Might break down and by a refurb 900. At least I know what I'm getting into with that.
Flirc Update
Flirc has a new Desktop GUI and Firmware update that directly supports AFTV.
Has anybody else had any luck pairing a PS4 controller with the Amazon Fire TV Stick? I saw that with the Amazon Fire TV you hold share and power, and you can then pair them. On the Stick everything seems to go about the same, except then it says 'Unable to pair' when you select Wireless Controller.
Hey i'm having the same problem. I don't have the Fire TV but have read something similar to what you said. If you figure out a method plz let me know.
Same here
Having the same issue here. Can't seem to figure it out;
Any updates guys?
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Any updates guys?
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I tried sideloading Android's settings.apk - and even then it was a no go. Maybe part of their plan of selling it for $20 was counting on some sales of the $40 controller, so they don't want us using other controllers with it anymore.
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I tried sideloading Android's settings.apk - and even then it was a no go. Maybe part of their plan of selling it for $20 was counting on some sales of the $40 controller, so they don't want us using other controllers with it anymore.
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I also tried with the settings apk. My problem was that the controller would not even show up in the Settings.apk Bluetooth menu. On the other hand, it showed up in the Bluetooth controllers options but did not connect.
Other people have had success connecting the Ouya controller thus I think its not that they don't want ANY 3rd party controllers, its just that the Bluetooth driver and/or hardware they're using is different than the Fire TV. Which is really sad because the ONLY reason I bought the Fire TV stick was because I read PS4 controller works out of the box with FireTV.
Same issue for me and I'm really bummed. Any other things to try besides the settings.apk? I have a feeling this is a cut cost hardware issue.
same issue
I have just spoken with amazon and according to them the PS4 controller is not compatible. I too saw an youtube video where someone was able to pair it, if anyone has a solution to this issue please let me know, I really don't want to wait for the playpad pro that is optimazied for amazon since its back ordered
I finally got it to pair, but the performance is pretty terrible, you can see the process here: http://youtu.be/jF3ExA3qzbc (no root required) to keep this from being a 'shameless plug' I'll post the brief instructions, so you can skip the video if you want.
'adb shell' into your fire stick
Get your mac address with this command: settings get secure bluetooth_address
Download and install sixaxisPairToolSetup-0.3.0
Connect your controller via usb to your pc, run the tool, and change the master address to your fire stick's address
Put your dualshock4 in pairing mode and scan for bluetooth controllers with your fire stick
As soon as "wireless controller" shows up on the list DO NOT SELECT IT.
Turn off your controller by holding the (ps) button
Select "wireless controller" on your fire stick
Turn back on the controler
It should now be connected, and it will be greyed out in the list.
if it did not connect try the pairing process again, but this method worked for me on the first try.
[/LIST](the youtube video is more detailed, and has all the links, but with this post and a quick google search, you should be able to find everything you need)
(this is a copy of a redit post I made, but I just put it here, so you can find it as well)
BOBdotEXE said:
I finally got it to pair, but the performance is pretty terrible, you can see the process here: http://youtu.be/jF3ExA3qzbc (no root required) to keep this from being a 'shameless plug' I'll post the brief instructions, so you can skip the video if you want.
'adb shell' into your fire stick
Get your mac address with this command: settings get secure bluetooth_address
Download and install sixaxisPairToolSetup-0.3.0
Connect your controller via usb to your pc, run the tool, and change the master address to your fire stick's address
Put your dualshock4 in pairing mode and scan for bluetooth controllers with your fire stick
As soon as "wireless controller" shows up on the list DO NOT SELECT IT.
Turn off your controller by holding the (ps) button
Select "wireless controller" on your fire stick
Turn back on the controler
It should now be connected, and it will be greyed out in the list.
if it did not connect try the pairing process again, but this method worked for me on the first try.
[/LIST](the youtube video is more detailed, and has all the links, but with this post and a quick google search, you should be able to find everything you need)
(this is a copy of a redit post I made, but I just put it here, so you can find it as well)
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Can this same process be followed for a PS3 remote?
binary01 said:
Can this same process be followed for a PS3 remote?
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I don't believe so, the ds4 acts as a generic bluetooth controller,
the ds3/sixaxis dose not.
but feel free to try, I do not have any with me at the time, so I can not check.
have there been any updates to this? the Settings.apk is not working for me, it closes out when I attempt attach a bluetooth controller. I am trying to connect my ps4 controller through bluetooth for a lag free experience. So far after connecting it I get a ton of lag on the controller.
the steps given by BOBdotEXE in this thread worked for me it even works the main amazon screen too its not working for all games but seems ok with the emulators though
MrWolfman said:
the steps given by BOBdotEXE in this thread worked for me it even works the main amazon screen too its not working for all games but seems ok with the emulators though
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unfortunately according to the link there still is lag when inputting commands (1 month ago), I am hoping someone can find a workaround for the lag issues because games are unplayable through bluetooth using a ps4 controller
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unfortunately according to the link there still is lag when inputting commands (1 month ago), I am hoping someone can find a workaround for the lag issues because games are unplayable through bluetooth using a ps4 controller
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my lag isnt that bad at all tbh, i can play sonic 1 no problems, i can play nintendo emulator no problems, i think the lag may be due to the distance from the stick to the controller, my distance is about 2 metres from the stick maybe just over, if you live in a BIG house with over 5 metre distance then yes there would obviously be lag
If you need an alternative controller I have a thread for that Here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/aftv2-best-compatible-apps-accessories-t3269267
I haven't managed to get the ds4 paired via Bluetooth as yet but whilst trying I connected it to a powered usb hub which is connected to the stick which is rooted and has OTG enabled.
It worked immediately wired.
As soon as I pulled the cable though the stick rebooted. But if your desperate, rooted and have an OTG cable you can connect your ds4 to you fire stick.
FYI My old wired xbox 360 (afterglow) didn't work when that was connected.
Hello all. Sorry to bump this ancient thread but its the first google result when looking for help. So i had problems using my ps4 controller on my firetv myself as it appears amazon has cut support for game controllers on firetv. Lucky enough there is an easy fix.
Simply download and install Easy Fire Tools onto a smartphone.
Easy Fire Tools - Apps on Google Play
Install your favorite apps on FireTv and other android devices
play.google.com
Then download and install Bluetooth Pair
Bluetooth Pair - Apps on Google Play
Bluetooth pairing - automated. Simply turn on Bluetooth and connect!
play.google.com
Then just sideload Bluetooth Pair app to firetv and use it to connect to game controller.
This method works to where you dont need to pair the remote every time you want to use with firetv. Simply turn on and it will connect.
Cheers!
I'm having the same issue. Although I do not own a Fire TV, I have read something that sounds similar to what you have described. Please let me know if you come up with a solution.
Hi
I have managed to install the btsports.apk via cmd "adb install" cmd to my firestick. The application loads up, but I am unable to get into the login or password text box to enter my credentials. I am only trying this to get a Enhanced picture through the app, rather than chromecasting at a standard picture (which is fine, but could be clearer).
I have tried sideloading the app from my phone in the past with AGK fire application, but this just completes instantly and doesn't install.
I have tried the Remote mouse for Firestick and also the Wukong Remote, as this has a feature to use as a mouse, so i can get a pointer on the screen, but it still won't click into the text boxes.
I would be most appreciated if anyone knows a way around this. I was contemplating adding the login within the apk if i can reverse engineering it, but don't think i should.
I have Kodi already installed with the syk build, but the picture is not 1080, so not clear enough, as chromecast is clearer.
Cheers
I was messing with this myself over the weekend, I had to use a Bluetooth mouse to click inside the login boxes in order to input my details.
padlad said:
I was messing with this myself over the weekend, I had to use a Bluetooth mouse to click inside the login boxes in order to input my details.
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Excellent news, thanks, I'll give that a go
good to have the toggle mouse app......you can activate when you need with play/pause button and disactivate after.....also flying 2.4gz remote connected trough usb port
Thanks for the above information.
But what if you don't have Bluetooth mouse, is there any other work around this??
Thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/remote-mouse-wukong-stopped-t3264175/page2
Hey!
I can't for the love of god be able to pair my Amazon FireTV Remote, Shield TV does not want to detect it while my macbook detects the remote without any problem.
I hold the "Home button" on the FireTV remote to put it in pairing mode, my macbook detects the fire remote without any problem and the shield never shows it while looking for bluetooth devices...
I tested my bluetooth speaker to see if shield's bluetooth was working and it detected the speaker without any problem, I don't understand why it never "sees" the firetv remote.. any ideias? plz halp!
Hello,
which Version do you like to pair? The Amazon Fire TV 1 or 2 remote? I have a Fire TV 2 Box and i was able to pair the remote with the Shield. The Version 2 is not bluetooth! You have to pair it as original Stuff.
Greetings
Can you use the Amazon Fire TV remote off/on button to turn off or make the Shield sleep?
Turn on does work with every key. But turn off you have to use the shutdown menu. But at this time i use a Logitech Remote + Hub + Flirc.
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Hello,
which Version do you like to pair? The Amazon Fire TV 1 or 2 remote? I have a Fire TV 2 Box and i was able to pair the remote with the Shield. The Version 2 is not bluetooth! You have to pair it as original Stuff.
Greetings
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What do you mean by pair it as original stuff? I have a fire tv voice remote 2nd generation and can't seem to pair it with the shield.
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What do you mean by pair it as original stuff? I have a fire tv voice remote 2nd generation and can't seem to pair it with the shield.
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I believe he (or she) means you need to pair it as a Shield accessory rather than as a bluetooth accessory.
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I believe he (or she) means you need to pair it as a Shield accessory rather than as a bluetooth accessory.
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Absolutely right. The remote 2nd generation is not a bluetooth. You have to pair it as original remote in the menu.
Regards
I have the first generation, it's bluetooth, but the shield doesn't detect it.
efegue said:
I have the first generation, it's bluetooth, but the shield doesn't detect it.
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I had the same Problem. I own a Amazon Fire TV gen1 bluetooth voice remote and I can not connect it with my nvidia shield tv pro.
I hope this is not caused by the firmware update version 352.
Any hint out there? I can not find the ES File Explorer too.
Greetings by Idijt
I didn't have to do any pairing to make it works.
But for few days, voice research doesn't works anymore.
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Can you use the Amazon Fire TV remote off/on button to turn off or make the Shield sleep?
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Which on/off button?
The Fire TV remote does not have such a button.
I_did_it_just_tmrrow said:
I had the same Problem. I own a Amazon Fire TV gen1 bluetooth voice remote and I can not connect it with my nvidia shield tv pro.
I hope this is not caused by the firmware update version 352.
Any hint out there? I can not find the ES File Explorer too.
Greetings by Idijt
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I have the Amazon Fire TV Gen 1 voice remote too and cannot pair it to my Nvidia Shield TV? It can't see it even though I've tried both ways to put the remote into discovery mode:
1) Hold HOME button for 5-10 seconds
2) Take batteries out and put them back in
I like this remote better because it has all the buttons I actually need to use. I think someone at Nvidia tried to make their remote too simple that it hurt its basic functionality.
Assuming the v1. Voice is anything like the v2 Voice...
You'll need to give it more like 20s! This is also true for the FireTV2 itself. 10s, just isnt nearly long enough.
i have the shield tv (2017) and the firetv4k remote
when trying to pair as shiel accessorie i press the home button for abt 10-20 sec and then i see that the shield moves to the next step of pairing...however after some waiting time it fails and gives a failure message
any idea what else i could try?
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i have the shield tv (2017) and the firetv4k remote
when trying to pair as shiel accessorie i press the home button for abt 10-20 sec and then i see that the shield moves to the next step of pairing...however after some waiting time it fails and gives a failure message
any idea what else i could try?
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I have same issue, it shows Shield controller but then stops process
after the upgrade to nougat i had the same problem... pairing the amazon remote took forever and ended in a failure notice. try to pair the game controller first and than the fire tv remote. after pairing the game controler and orignal shield remote the amazon remote paired just fine.
Anyone found a solution? None of those solution works, amazon fire voice remote worked with my old tv shield, but it won't pair with 2017 model.
It dose show a picture of old shield tv game controller, after a while say faild.
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Anyone found a solution? None of those solution works, amazon fire voice remote worked with my old tv shield, but it won't pair with 2017 model.
It dose show a picture of old shield tv game controller, after a while say faild.
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Is it possible that this is a Android 7 Nougat bug with bluetooth? I found something similar with a short google query.
At common:
Perhaps there is a chance to use adb or another script to add bluetooth firetv remotes.
I found some adb cpommands but missed the importand ones: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41594707/adb-shell-bluetooth-commands
This is looking nice too and seems to have some code on github: http://www.londatiga.net/it/program...ally-pair-or-unpair-android-bluetooth-device/
We shoukd be able to find out the mac of the remote on a working FireTV-Device with adb enabled.
I am currently not at home to try it it out, can somebody try it?
Greetings by Idijt
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2nd gen fire tv remote:
voice search was working perfectly till the last update. now it will start searching on button up and down so the results cant be shown because of the new search action
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Hello Developers!
I got a problem and I hope some of you can help me (if not you then i don't know who). I have Fire TV stick 2 gen for about 2 years and recently my remote stopped working. I installed amazon TV app on my cellphone to get back control of the stick. Then I tried everything I was able to find on the Internet (new batteries, hold home button for 5-10-20 sec, find new BT device from the settings menu, etc.) to bring back to life original remote but there was no luck. So I decided to reset the stick back to factory settings (bad idea). As you can guess now I have the stick that is asking me to pair my (probably dead) remote with it (!).
I don't have friends with amazon TVs and I don't want to pay $20 for the new remote ( when the new stick with remote is like $30 ) I'm ok to use the app.
So I have three questions for you guys:
1) Is there any way to skip the first step (initiation of remote)? Maybe I can find some kind of firmware that I can change a little bit
(put my wifi settings and tell to skip 1st step) and flash it into my stick? IDK...
2) As I understand the original remote works on BT not on WIFI so Is there any app that uses BT and can be recognized as an amazon tv remote on that 1st step. Two apps I've tried (amazon tv app and CetusPlay) use WIFI.
3) Is there any way to check if my remote still live or completely dead? (Again I have no friends with amazon TVs)
Thanks for any input!
No ideas guys? Any?
I think you actually need a remote for first time boot :/ I don't think there is any app out there that emulates the remote, I could be wrong but have you tried this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amjs5hGXqbs
I have exactly the same issue. I don't know if my remote is working or not.
I managed to connect a usb keyboard and stupidly reset the thing to defaults - disabling developer mode in the process.
Now I have a firestick that keeps asking me to "pair the remote..."
Is there any way to enable adb ?
in this thread.. ( https://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/development/unlock-fire-tv-stick-2nd-gen-tank-t3907002 ) I remember reading about shorting a pin inside the unit to ground, would this allow adb access?
tbird635 said:
I have exactly the same issue. I don't know if my remote is working or not.
I managed to connect a usb keyboard and stupidly reset the thing to defaults - disabling developer mode in the process.
Now I have a firestick that keeps asking me to "pair the remote..."
Is there any way to enable adb ?
in this thread.. ( https://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/development/unlock-fire-tv-stick-2nd-gen-tank-t3907002 ) I remember reading about shorting a pin inside the unit to ground, would this allow adb access?
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I want to say I'm fairly certain I was able to skip the pairing with a USB keyboard. Although I don't remember what key I pressed.
My remote stopped too. I stretched out the springs and reinstalled the batteries. Works great now.
Did you have any luck solving this Bartyman?
with a usb keyboard i was able to use play button to bypass
I reset my device using TWRP, and cannot get pass the "pair remote" screen! Help!? Would buying a otg cable and using a usb keyboard help? or is that a waste of money?
KINDLE FIRE MURDERER said:
I reset my device using TWRP, and cannot get pass the "pair remote" screen! Help!? Would buying a otg cable and using a usb keyboard help? or is that a waste of money?
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buying a OTG is very useful, almost any keyboard/mouse will work. makes TWRP easier also. holding down the home button for about 10 seconds has worked for me when trying to pair the remote. I dont know if you can do anything to get by it with CEC using the TV remote.