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I got my Nexus LTE on Wednesday, had it replaced on Friday, and now VZW wants to take it back all together. They are saying that Samsung is working on a fix on the phone, but now Verizon thinks its a Network issue?
Does any one have a Nexus that isn't dropping Data constantly? Is it a bad Batch of phones? Does anyone know what is going on?
The ones with data drops are the most vocal...
I, for one, find my GNex's signal to be COMPLETELY comparable to my Droid X.
I still get the same slightly-spotty service at work (center of a hospital...surrounded by lead to protect from the X-Ray Machines' radiation). Excellent service literally everywhere else I've been.
I'm also not experiencing ANY 4.0.4 deep-sleep related drops as many are.
Bad Batch
So, is there just a bad batch of phones out there? Because this seems that this has to be a hardware issue.With a certain amount of phones that went out.
Mine is working great, I had to have it warrantied twice before I got one that didn't drop signal randomly.
Seems like the ones made in Korea are your best bet for better signal. My China ones were horrible.
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I think my wife and i may both be having this issue with random signal drops while on 4G. 3G is solid as a rock. 4G drops and reconnects about every 3 minutes. Does that sound like hardware?
How do you tell where the phone is made?
i really think verizon hates this phone and doesnt really want to sell a nexus to people...
Talked to Verizon
So we are trying this one more time...
I talked to Verizon today, and the Tech person had the same phone and lived in my area and said she was not having any issues, which led her to believe it was Hardware and Software. She also said some razors are having the same issue, and if I switch phones I could have the same issue again. So, I am going to swap it out again and see what happens?
I have had 5 of these phones and they all have this problems.
Vzn just sucks!!! I can't wait until I can afford to break the contract!!!! and I thought sprint was bad!!! T-Mobile was heaven compared to this garbage service!!!!
siberslug said:
I have had 5 of these phones and they all have this problems.
Vzn just sucks!!! I can't wait until I can afford to break the contract!!!! and I thought sprint was bad!!! T-Mobile was heaven compared to this garbage service!!!!
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Did you just blame Verizon for a phone it sells?
They didn't touch the hardware or software of the device....
adrynalyne said:
Did you just blame Verizon for a phone it sells?
They didn't touch the hardware or software of the device....
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Lol so Verizon apps magically appeared?
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Lol so Verizon apps magically appeared?
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Just because they are included in the CDMA/LTE version for Verizon, doesn't mean they touched anything on the OS side.
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Just because they are included in the CDMA/LTE version for Verizon, doesn't mean they touched anything on the OS side.
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I believe that the radios, and maybe a few other driver packages, are developed by verizon and only distributed by google when they package their releases. That's what the tiff a few months back was with the CDMA phones being "dropped" by AOSP, a licensing conflict with anything that interacts with the CDMA tech being tied down and not open source. The actual Android code is google's game, true, but it's not the only thing the phones run on.
So there's room for Verizon to screw up the way the phones run in the OTA packages.
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I have had 5 of these phones and they all have this problems.
Vzn just sucks!!! I can't wait until I can afford to break the contract!!!! and I thought sprint was bad!!! T-Mobile was heaven compared to this garbage service!!!!
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Just cause you're having issues with Verizon doesn't mean it's the same for everyone. Have fun being throttled on T-Moible's "4G" after you hit 2GB .
I've had nothing but exceeding standard service from Verizon reps. Only thing I hate is that it took Verizon forever to come out with this phone. And the updates take longer than GSM ones, but still, its faster than any other phone.
I actually don't mind the 2 apps they pre installed. I actually use My Verizon and I used to use Backup Assistant, a lot of people still use it.
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I got one that works
On my 3rd try i got a phone that works, at least I think it works. The agents said that it can't be a lot number on the phones, because the same lots give out good and bad phones. They also said the Razor is having the same issues. They just told me to keep this one on 3G only until the update Samsung is supposed to be sending comes out.
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On my 3rd try i got a phone that works, at least I think it works. The agents said that it can't be a lot number on the phones, because the same lots give out good and bad phones. They also said the Razor is having the same issues. They just told me to keep this one on 3G only until the update Samsung is supposed to be sending comes out.
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Glad to hear it worked out for you and you can finally enjoy the phone.
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i really think verizon hates this phone and doesnt really want to sell a nexus to people...
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Even when I was getting my Sim and activating it, the rep didn't seem to happy about it lol
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VZW customer service is amazing
I have never had an issue where VZW customer service DIDN'T immediately suggest "let me send you a new phone" when I called with an issue. The only phone I've ever had with VZW where I didn't warranty replace a phone (in Droid X's case, FIVE TIMES before they finally sent me an X2) was my old Blackberry 8703e. I'm on my 2nd GNEX (after a bad screen/battery life/overheating issue with my first) and I can't imagine every having someone other than VZW. I mean, I get 20Mb/s D/L on 4G LTE and 10-15 upload...and no matter how much bandwidth I use (with my husband and I playing MMOs via my GNEX) we do not get throttled. It really isn't VZW's fault if there is some widespread hardware issue in some of the phones that shipped.
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I believe that the radios, and maybe a few other driver packages, are developed by verizon and only distributed by google when they package their releases. That's what the tiff a few months back was with the CDMA phones being "dropped" by AOSP, a licensing conflict with anything that interacts with the CDMA tech being tied down and not open source. The actual Android code is google's game, true, but it's not the only thing the phones run on.
So there's room for Verizon to screw up the way the phones run in the OTA packages.
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Nah. Even if every verizon file and app was bad, it would only have the effect of broken verizon apps.
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Lol so Verizon apps magically appeared?
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Let me say it again.
Verizon did not touch the software or hardware in this device.
Did they supply Google with some apks and libs? Sure they did. Do they affect ANY PART of operation?
Heck no.
Verizon outsources their app development, by the way. If Verizon had modified anything built by Google, it would have broken signatures. Guess what? Google signs our otas and they stay signed (otherwise we couldn't install them).
I learned the Stratosphere II existed like a week ago and I've been researching this phone like crazy. Seems like a better version of the Glide. Is this essentially an unofficial update of the Glide? The specs seem to match up, with the only thing lacking on the Strat's side is the megapixels (the Glide has 8, the Strat 2 has 5) and the Strat 2 having a dual 1.2GHz CPU compared to Glide's dual 1.0GHz CPU.
I've been looking to get a Glide for a long time. I've been keeping up with this board for updates and everything. And while it seems like an awesome phone, the GPS problems worry me. But, there are plenty of guides here so when I finally get a Glide, I can see if the GPS solutions here work.
But the Stratosphere II...I mean its so new I don't think anyone has figured out how to root it yet. So no custom roms for the time being, but I'm sure it would be coming as more people learn of its existence and start working on it.
My main cause of concern is the GPS, as I travel to Mexico alot. I already have service there that I maintain here (Movistar) by going to a tienda every three months and putting a few dollars on it. While you can't root the Stratosphere II, I could at least slap the SIM card in there and use it (apparently if I buy it outright Verizon can/should/will unlock the GSM functionality for me) until that magical moment does come when a root guide finally pops up online. And I could be wrong but I think there's no GPS issues with the Stratosphere II.
So that's where I am. Get the Glide for pretty cheap ($225 online), with the ability to root and flash roms but with shaky GPS (and apparently no Jelly Bean?), or get the Stratosphere II for not pretty cheap ($445 directly from Verizon) with no ability to root or flash roms, but, great (as far as I know) GPS? Thoughts, comments, suggestions?
I knew about the original Stratosphere but not the 2. It looks like a nice device. Personally I wouldn't buy a device without root, let alone some sort of dev community. I can pretty much confirm your GPS worries about the Glide. It blows and there is no nicer way to put it. I have tried tweak apps, modding files myself, even copying the conf files right from my N7 to it. It still takes like 2 minutes to get a lock and loses it rather easily. Compared to my N7 which takes under 10 seconds.
The Glide is a good phone though. Our dev community kind of sucks, being so small and relying on key people to do most of the work. But at least we have one and a pretty decent JB builds.
I'm not sure what to suggest. If you can live on stock without root and such, the Strato 2 looks nice. But after having my Glide for nearly a year, I still really like it. But I don't use GPS much with it either.
I sell for all carriers so I'll give you my thought.
Glide is an older device with a tegra 2 processor and operates on GSM. It has an older touch wiz on it meaning the skin and other tweaks Samsung applied to the gs3 isn't all their.. The strat 2 is a well built phone slightly smaller than its older brother. But had newer touch wiz along with newer things Samsung threw in. I'm not going to go into a lot of tech specs of the two phones since u can do that but if I had a choice it would be the strat 2 because of the newer touch wiz which is faster and nicer to look at. Plus the over all look and feel much nicer on the strat 2.. the glide is pretty bulky you really must consider who you want to pay monthly and who has better coverage Verizon or AT&T?
Good luck Bud.:beer:
My battery is dead now.. Have fun!
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I knew about the original Stratosphere but not the 2. It looks like a nice device. Personally I wouldn't buy a device without root, let alone some sort of dev community. I can pretty much confirm your GPS worries about the Glide. It blows and there is no nicer way to put it. I have tried tweak apps, modding files myself, even copying the conf files right from my N7 to it. It still takes like 2 minutes to get a lock and loses it rather easily. Compared to my N7 which takes under 10 seconds.
The Glide is a good phone though. Our dev community kind of sucks, being so small and relying on key people to do most of the work. But at least we have one and a pretty decent JB builds.
I'm not sure what to suggest. If you can live on stock without root and such, the Strato 2 looks nice. But after having my Glide for nearly a year, I still really like it. But I don't use GPS much with it either.
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Thanks for the advice. I have a rooted Epic 4G (hence my name), so I know the joys of having a rooted phone. But I want to switch to a GSM device (more on that below in dincdoes.me), but unlike you would rely on the GPS a lot.
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I sell for all carriers so I'll give you my thought.
Glide is an older device with a tegra 2 processor and operates on GSM. It has an older touch wiz on it meaning the skin and other tweaks Samsung applied to the gs3 isn't all their.. The strat 2 is a well built phone slightly smaller than its older brother. But had newer touch wiz along with newer things Samsung threw in. I'm not going to go into a lot of tech specs of the two phones since u can do that but if I had a choice it would be the strat 2 because of the newer touch wiz which is faster and nicer to look at. Plus the over all look and feel much nicer on the strat 2.. the glide is pretty bulky you really must consider who you want to pay monthly and who has better coverage Verizon or AT&T?
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The thing is, I want to go to Net10, do their BYOD program, and basically have AT&T service through Net10. Why? Net10 has that international coverage plan, its like $60-$65 a month, and I can call my friends in Mexico (via an 800 number I believe) and talk as long as I want (well as long as THEIR minutes will allow). And it makes no difference if its to a landline or a cell phone. Also when I go TO Mexico, just swap out the Net10 sim card for my Movistar one.
Also, at least in NC, the AT&T coverage is second only to Verizon. Definitely better than Sprint, and T-Mobile might as well not even exist with its shaky coverage.
The GPS function is VERY IMPORTANT to me, especially in Mexico, and I have seen my friends in Mexico's Androids use GPS (Google Maps) to find stuff just fine. So...I may have to go ahead and get the Strato 2 and just live with it being unrooted for a while.
That's a tough decision. If time wasn't a factor, I would wait a month or two to see what happens with the i415 (Stratosphere) within the XDA community. Unfortunately for qwerty keyboard lovers, the phones we want don't get as much hype and publicity as the candybar phones. Otterbox and CyanogenMod barely acknowledged our phones. We happened to get VERY lucky getting this much support for the i927 (Captivate Glide) as the early stages were definitely desperate.
I'm currently running the Vanilla Rootbox rom and even though there are still a few bugs, the essentials work well enough for me not to upgrade. I heavily use GPS as I have a memory of a fish and it works flawlessly.
Long story short, after watching the i927 go from a simple request in a Captivate forum to it's own forum with no devs to what it is today, I would go with the Captivate Glide. Who knows if the i415 will get also get lucky with support or not? After all, qwerty phones are a dying breed.
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That's a tough decision. If time wasn't a factor, I would wait a month or two to see what happens with the i415 (Stratosphere) within the XDA community. Unfortunately for qwerty keyboard lovers, the phones we want don't get as much hype and publicity as the candybar phones. Otterbox and CyanogenMod barely acknowledged our phones. We happened to get VERY lucky getting this much support for the i927 (Captivate Glide) as the early stages were definitely desperate.
I'm currently running the Vanilla Rootbox rom and even though there are still a few bugs, the essentials work well enough for me not to upgrade. I heavily use GPS as I have a memory of a fish and it works flawlessly.
Long story short, after watching the i927 go from a simple request in a Captivate forum to it's own forum with no devs to what it is today, I would go with the Captivate Glide. Who knows if the i415 will get also get lucky with support or not? After all, qwerty phones are a dying breed.
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Thanks for the advice. Well...what I am considering is getting the Glide (the Rogers version, which it appears that you have) and just root and put a rom on it (I would like one that mimic's the Jelly Bean, but if the Vanilla Rootbox you're using is fine, I may try that), and use that until more development pops up for the Stratosphere II. If you have the Rogers Glide, and your GPS problems are nil...I don't know, I'm considering it. I probably should have mentioned if I get the Glide it would be the Rogers version (somehow its cheaper than the AT&T version, which costs more than the Stratosphere II! ).
I could do that, or just get a Strato 2 and live without root/flashed roms for a while (but if it already has Jelly Bean may not need it). Thinking, thinking...
Is time a factor? Well I plan on going to Mexico sometime in April, so kinda sorta. But since I plan on making regular trips, not really, I guess.
5-row keyboard!
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That's a tough decision. If time wasn't a factor, I would wait a month or two to see what happens with the i415 (Stratosphere) within the XDA community. Unfortunately for qwerty keyboard lovers, the phones we want don't get as much hype and publicity as the candybar phones. Otterbox and CyanogenMod barely acknowledged our phones. We happened to get VERY lucky getting this much support for the i927 (Captivate Glide) as the early stages were definitely desperate.
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If all other things were equal, and they're not (in terms of development progress here on xda), I would go for the 5 row keyboard. One of the things I found very irritating very early on with the glide is that every time you type a number, you have to hit Alt first. Given the number of characters and numbers in text these days, this gets really old, really fast.
If I had had more patience, and thought more deeply at the time, I suspect I would have preferred to wait.
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If all other things were equal, and they're not (in terms of development progress here on xda), I would go for the 5 row keyboard. One of the things I found very irritating very early on with the glide is that every time you type a number, you have to hit Alt first. Given the number of characters and numbers in text these days, this gets really old, really fast.
If I had had more patience, and thought more deeply at the time, I suspect I would have preferred to wait.
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I forgot the Glide only had four rows. As much as I've been using my Epic 4G...well it would be a learning curve to go from 5 rows to 4.
Stratosphere II has a locked bootloader and hasn't even been rooted yet. Also, while I haven't seen any reports yay or nay, it probably suffers the same domestic GSM lock all other Verizon phones have. It is possible to counter this, but not without a lot of dev support and root.
I switched from Captivate Glide to the Galaxy S Relay 4G. It has 5 rows, supports AT&T and a few other odd UMTS frequencies (Wind Mobile for instance) and has a fairly decent (but small) dev community with a working unofficial cyanogenmod 10.
The other choice is the Motorola Photon Q for Sprint, which comes comes with GSM capabilities, but you have to remove the pre-soldered SIM chip and add a SIM card adapter. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1929143 I have seen no information on whether it is locked domestically for GSM. It can be reflashed to Cricket and PagePlus on the CDMA side as well, and there is a CM 10 for it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1929143
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Stratosphere II has a locked bootloader and hasn't even been rooted yet. Also, while I haven't seen any reports yay or nay, it probably suffers the same domestic GSM lock all other Verizon phones have. It is possible to counter this, but not without a lot of dev support and root.
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Thanks for your reply. That no one has tried to root or unlock or even just manipulate the settings on this phone, which to me appears to be the true [yet unofficial] successor to the Epic 4G...blows my mind. Is there just no interest, or people don't know that it exists...I just don't understand.
I switched from Captivate Glide to the Galaxy S Relay 4G. It has 5 rows, supports AT&T and a few other odd UMTS frequencies (Wind Mobile for instance) and has a fairly decent (but small) dev community with a working unofficial cyanogenmod 10.
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Well my gameplan was to have a phone I can use both in the US and in Mexico...in Mexico it wouldn't be a big deal, but here any GSM (like from Net10) will go straight to the T-Mobile network since its a T-Mobile phone. And T-Mobile sucks and doesn't appear to be getting any better. I don't know how good or bad the 4G functionality is, but its not enough to have me go back to T-Mobile. That was a year of hell, not just from the almost non-existent coverage but the idiotic customer service as well. My uncle still has them and he complains about them all the time, but he's with them for a reason (something about coverage in Canada, I forget).
The other choice is the Motorola Photon Q for Sprint, which comes comes with GSM capabilities, but you have to remove the pre-soldered SIM chip and add a SIM card adapter. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1929143 I have seen no information on whether it is locked domestically for GSM. It can be reflashed to Cricket and PagePlus on the CDMA side as well, and there is a CM 10 for it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1929143
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I'm not good at soldering. Plus if I mess up, gotta buy another phone.
Dang. Looks like I'll have to stick with the Glide for now. Well, I'll have to GET the Glide, then stick with it for now.
Um, I hate to break it to you, but your gsm service depends on which sim card you have. I am using the Galaxy S Relay just fine on AT&T.
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Um, I hate to break it to you, but your gsm service depends on which sim card you have. I am using the Galaxy S Relay just fine on AT&T.
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Not the way Net10 worded it, and I've spoken to them many times. They said it depends on the phone itself, as far as the BYOD program goes.
QWERTY Geek here
I've had the following QWERTY phones:
OG Droid
Stratosphere 1
Stratosphere 2 (current phone)
And my wife had the Captivate Glide until she dropped it recently.
Here are my thoughts:
1. Out of this list of phones, the Stratosphere 2 is best, no question. It's slightly faster than the Captivate Glide, has NFC, has a 5 row keyboard, has Verizon LTE, and has Bluetooth 4.0. There's hardly anyone even talking about this phone, much less getting dev/root work going. Sucks, too, since this is basically a Galaxy S3 Lite w/ QWERTY. Everything about this phone is solid.
2. The Captivate Glide GPS's sucked. And the ICS upgrade was an utter disaster. The new ICS upgrade isn't as bad, but the GPS on this phone is definitely much worse than any other phone on the above list. My wife stopped using it altogether and would just use Google Maps like I did back in the iPhone 3G days.
3. I liked the Captivate Glide's keyboard, but my wife hated it. She preferred the Stratosphere 1's keyboard and then the Strat 2. And in case you are wondering, I was barely surviving on the Strat1 when I upgraded in January... a 1GHz single core 512MB RAM phone just doesn't hold up any more, and battery life was awful (about 10 hours with light use, 16-20 hours with no use).
4. A Jellybean (4.1) update just came out for the Strat2. I've been holding back on upgrading due to my wife's horrible experience with ICS. In researching it, I discovered that FoxFi would apparently be broken and 4.1/4.2 has issues with a lot of N-only routers. I've been happy with the Strat2 and ICS, so I won't upgrade. But I so wish Cyanogen would pick up the slack.
5. Are we sure the Strat2 has a locked bootloader? My understanding is that Samsung phones have an unlocked bootloader but switch a flag if you change the ROM so warranty can be denied. Can someone verify?
Thank you very much for the note, some good and interesting stuff in here.
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1. Out of this list of phones, the Stratosphere 2 is best, no question. It's slightly faster than the Captivate Glide, has NFC, has a 5 row keyboard, has Verizon LTE, and has Bluetooth 4.0. There's hardly anyone even talking about this phone, much less getting dev/root work going. Sucks, too, since this is basically a Galaxy S3 Lite w/ QWERTY. Everything about this phone is solid.
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Any comments, Glide vis a vis Galaxy S Relay 4G? [e.g. you say Stratosphere 2 is basically a Galaxy S3 Lite w/qwerty - I've yet to come across a similar 'rating' for the 4G. I believe Glide would be S2 (Sii). I don't know what the 4G is.]
For me LTE vs anything else doesn't matter - I don't do data. Wi-fi, yes, so the N only issue is biting me. (Which I think is a phone hardware, not a software, issue. Guessing.) Much the same for Bluetooth - most any bluetooth, and within, say, 10', does what I need it to do. Can you say what Bluetooth 4 brings to the party?
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2. The Captivate Glide GPS's sucked. And the ICS upgrade was an utter disaster. The new ICS upgrade isn't as bad, but the GPS on this phone is definitely much worse than any other phone on the above list. My wife stopped using it altogether and would just use Google Maps like I did back in the iPhone 3G days.
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New ICS upgrade? (Link?)
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4. A Jellybean (4.1) update just came out for the Strat2. I've been holding back on upgrading due to my wife's horrible experience with ICS.
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Can you comment on that horrible experience? I've yet to upgrade from Gingerbread to something ICS here, so looking to be forearmed with (your) forewarning, here.
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In researching it, ... 4.1/4.2 has issues with a lot of N-only routers.
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I'm now wondering if this explains what I'm seeing on a certain router - across multiple phones and laptop. It's becoming a PITA. At home I get around some problem by setting a static IP.
Is this a common experience for people, across hardware - be it phones or laptops?
The Galaxy S Relay 4G looks like it basically has the tech of the Strat2, so I'd expect them to be equivalent. It looks like it has a physical mashup of the Captivate Glide and Strat2. Assuming you like the keyboard, the S Relay 4G looks like a better phone than the Captivate GLide. I have no experience with this phone.
Bluetooth 4 lets you use super low power bluetooth devices. StickNfind.com (I bought 6) is the first one I know of, but there will definitely be more over the next year or two. Lots of workout type devices and other sensors will start using it. It first arrived in phones in the iPhone 4s.
The Captivate Glide's original ICS upgrade was over Kies and was pulled due to horrendous user response. You can read threads all over by googling. Here's a taste: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1879432
Basically, GPS went to completely useless, phone app crashed constantly, contacts app crashed constantly, keyboard backlight never lit up, text messages coming in 15 times even though only sent once, and more. Most were fixed in a latter OTA update, though the text message thing still happened. The GPS also would sometimes go in and out of lock and wasn't really dependable.
Until the OTA update came out, I was about to have my wife take the phone back to the ATT store to exchange for a Gingerbread model under warranty. Incidentally, a month ago she dropped it and broke the screen and I replaced it with an LG Escape, which she LOVES (no qwerty). She never liked the Captivate Glide keyboard and considers the LG Escape's software keyboard to be just as good and it resolved all her other problems.
The router problem I'm seeing is only on phones that were working fine with ICS and then were upgraded to Jellybean. Here's a couple links:
https://community.verizonwireless.com/message/950253
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=34786
What you are experiencing sounds like a poor/dying router. It's definitely not normal. A firmware update may resolve the problem or you may try installing ddwrt.
Oh, here's a thread about rooting the Strat2 with no success yet:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2078615
Incidentally, I just tried to root the Samsung Stratosphere II i415 via SRSRoot, which claims it can root that phone. Unfortunately, after 3 attempts, I have nothing but failure. It tries to use root4, 4b, and 5 regardless of whether all root options or smartroot is selected.
Sucks because now VZ is forcing the JB update down. My options were simply to install now or defer 5 days. I chose the defer option, but from what I'm reading, that's a one time deal. So if I can't get rooted in the next 4 days and stop it, I'm going to be running JB whether I like it or not.
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does the samsung stratosphere ii 2 work with gsm in the United States? What about internation gsm?
JoeFresco said:
Incidentally, I just tried to root the Samsung Stratosphere II i415 via SRSRoot, which claims it can root that phone. Unfortunately, after 3 attempts, I have nothing but failure. It tries to use root4, 4b, and 5 regardless of whether all root options or smartroot is selected.
Sucks because now VZ is forcing the JB update down. My options were simply to install now or defer 5 days. I chose the defer option, but from what I'm reading, that's a one time deal. So if I can't get rooted in the next 4 days and stop it, I'm going to be running JB whether I like it or not.
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I'm more interested in flashing it to another service like Cricket. I think its possible, not 100% sure. People barely know this phone exists, let alone have taken the time to hook it up to QPST to see what happens.
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does the samsung stratosphere ii 2 work with gsm in the United States? What about internation gsm?
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That's the question. Like I said, except for the nice fellow in this very thread, no one else really has it, so so far no one has bought it and taken it abroad to see if the GSM works. I would think its locked out the box, though. Verizon refuses to give me a straight answer, and I think its kinda obvious why: its impossible to be unlocked abroad yet locked here, meaning its unlocked all the way or not at all. Meaning if they unlock it, I could just buy it and take it to AT&T.
My guess (heck the Verizon folks are guessing if not outright lying) is that the CDMA functionality works in tandem with the GSM functionality, if you use the phone in the US. It kinda has to, since the GSM slot is also the 4G LTE slot and how you'd get the 4G functionality. Abroad, the CDMA functionality will both detect the 4G LTE SIM isn't there (you'd have to remove it to put in the international SIM from the carrier of your choice while abroad, like Telcel or Movistar in my case) and that you're not in the US, thus giving you "permission" I guess you'd say to let it be unlocked for the duration of your visit. Once you return, however, Verizon will say "Ah you're back in the US" (the CDMA will detect an active Verizon network and account) and lock it right back so you'd have no choice but to replace your international SIM with the 4G LTE sim.
Basically, Verizon through the CDMA functionality can lock or unlock the GSM functionality, merely through network detection (if you're in the US) and by itself using the GSM (4G).
So if you buy the phone outright, you'd never have to worry about the CDMA part since you never had an active service with Verizon through that phone. Without an active CDMA, its merely...a GSM phone, meaning it can be unlocked and can be used on any GSM network. Hence Verizon's reluctance to say yay or nay to whether the GSM can be unlocked. They can't stop you from buying the phone outright, but they don't have to help you unlock the GSM part and potentially take it to another carrier, either. I've heard more or less "Well by law..." yes, but they either don't know the law or count on you not knowing the law. And even pointing it out to them can simply result in "well we don't know how to unlock it, so..." Which would be BS, but there being a law won't make them do anything. They'll just find ways around it. Plausible ways.
All guesswork, and I could be 100% wrong. But hey, that's what it seems like. If I'm right, at least it could potentially be used as a GSM phone at least abroad until someone figures out how to root it.
Go for the Strat 2.
1. Faster CPU
2. Better GPS.
3. Jelly Bean Released on it.
4. 4 row keyboard, I hate having to hit ALT to hit a number. Use excel a lot and that is really annoying.
5. I think it has more internal memory as well. Glide has only 4GB useable internal memory. (they say it is an 8GB phone)
Don't get me wrong GLide is a great phone but it is stating to show its age. Unfortunately I have a 3 year contract, so still have another year and a half on it.
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Go for the Strat 2.
1. Faster CPU
2. Better GPS.
3. Jelly Bean Released on it.
4. 4 row keyboard, I hate having to hit ALT to hit a number. Use excel a lot and that is really annoying.
5. I think it has more internal memory as well. Glide has only 4GB useable internal memory. (they say it is an 8GB phone)
Don't get me wrong GLide is a great phone but it is stating to show its age. Unfortunately I have a 3 year contract, so still have another year and a half on it.
JB
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Seems unrootable, but I'm wondering if its unflashable. I would like to buy it, flash it to Cricket, and just wait till someone roots the sucker. Flash it to Cricket and also unlock the GSM for use abroad. :good: That's my dream anyway. :fingers-crossed:
I'm pretty set on getting the 10.5 S. I'm currently running an ATT LTE Note 8.0 but the lack of updates is way past annoying, especially with the input freezing bug. I like having LTE, I certainly don't want to be completely without it. I'm also still locked in a contract on the Note for another year, the good news is it only costs $10/month so its a minimal issue. So my plan at the his point is to buy the wifi only 10.5 S and keep my note 8 and basically use it as a hot spot. To purchase a hotspot would cost me $20/month so it does make sense to just keep it and use it that way. That can certainly cut down on some portability but I really only use my tablet on LTE in my truck during work so keeping the Note there for for hotspot use is no biggie. And if I do want to take a tablet with me I can always just take the Note 8. Oh, and I cannot use my phone as a hotspot because its a work phone and is locked from doing so.
I guess my point in all of this is that I dont want to enter into another LTE tablet with potential problems that will never be fixed by the cell provider and be handcuffed with a locked bootloader in the community. Atleast when you go wifi only you know Samsung is going to take care of issues and you will stay closer to the front of the line of Android development.
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I'm pretty set on getting the 10.5 S. I'm currently running an ATT LTE Note 8.0 but the lack of updates is way past annoying, especially with the input freezing bug. I like having LTE, I certainly don't want to be completely without it. I'm also still locked in a contract on the Note for another year, the good news is it only costs $10/month so its a minimal issue. So my plan at the his point is to buy the wifi only 10.5 S and keep my note 8 and basically use it as a hot spot. To purchase a hotspot would cost me $20/month so it does make sense to just keep it and use it that way. That can certainly cut down on some portability but I really only use my tablet on LTE in my truck during work so keeping the Note there for for hotspot use is no biggie. And if I do want to take a tablet with me I can always just take the Note 8. Oh, and I cannot use my phone as a hotspot because its a work phone and is locked from doing so.
I guess my point in all of this is that I dont want to enter into another LTE tablet with potential problems that will never be fixed by the cell provider and be handcuffed with a locked bootloader in the community. Atleast when you go wifi only you know Samsung is going to take care of issues and you will stay closer to the front of the line of Android development.
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Personally I'm just going to get the wifi version since there will be wifi at the places I mainly go to and in worst case scenario I can tether using my S4. I really don't see a need to get the LTE version and pay more monthly (unless when the devs here find a way to make calls with this and you want to make calls and stuff?)
Why not just tether it to your phone? Tethering to another android device usually doesn't count against a tethering limit.
It has tended to be the case in my Samsung tablet experience that there tends to be more options when it comes to rooting and custom ROMs with the wifi varients vs. carrier tied lte variants. A personal example: I first got an lte AT&T Note 8 due to a promotion that they had at the time. That tablet ended up getting stolen, and I replaced it with the wifi version. Looking back, while it sucked shelling out extra cash for a replacement tablet, my experience with the Note 8 was MUCH better due to the ability to easily root it and a couple of really nice custom ROMs that are immeasurably better than the stock ROM, while I don't think there even are any ROMs that can be flashed to the AT&T locked-down version. I think it's rootable, but that's a relatively recent development for a device that's been out as long as the Note 8 (I think, there's a thread on the subject but I haven't looked at it).
Of course, the my take on the matter is really only relevant if you plan on rooting / modifying the device, or at least having the ability to do so, the wifi variant (or international lte version, I guess) seems to generally be the way to go.
I'm lusting hard after the Tab S 8.4, but I'm going to wait a while and keep an eye on this subforum mostly to see how development goes, and a price drop or sale would be nice when that starts to happen for these. If I end up getting this tablet (seems likely, the specs are pretty much exactly what I was hoping for in the TabPro 8.4), I anticipate that I'll end up getting the wifi version, even if I have the opportunity to get the lte version for the same price (I'm on T-mobile now and they had a promotion where they were selling the lte variants of the Samsung tablets that they had (which sucked when I checked it out) for the same price as the wifi variant with 2 GB free data or something, but not sure if that's perpetual). I now have a Note 3 and Note 8, and I really only use the tablet at home, but if I wanted to use it elsewhere I would just tether it to my phone with unlimited data, and all is right with the world
tl;dr IMO the wifi variant is the way to go so that your device isn't tied to any carrier and likely more modifiable, if you care about that. If this was a major decision that you were making that I completely solved and/or you're ridiculously generous, PM me for my address for pre-ordering purposes
I'd wait to see if the devices are rootable. I imagine that if the specs are close enough, I'd go with a Nexus 8 for the dev support. Failing that, go for the GPE version of Galaxy S.
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I'd wait to see if the devices are rootable. I imagine that if the specs are close enough, I'd go with a Nexus 8 for the dev support. Failing that, go for the GPE version of Galaxy S.
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I would love to see a GPE version of the Galaxy Tab S LTE. I don't know why it's so hard to find an Android tablet with LTE that isn't owned by the carriers so I can get decent updates. All the international versions never support the proper LTE bands. The Nexus 7 LTE is the exception. I also have the AT&T Note 8.0 and the lack of updates is more than annoying.
I'm starting to get really disappointed with my brand new Note 4. for several reasons.
Now I've discovered that it does not support voice and data at same time. That is a HUGE HUGE HUGE problem for me - especially if I'm using it as a notspot and miss phone calls. Are there any ROMS that deal with this issue? If not then I need to give up and return the phone before my 14 days is up.
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I'm starting to get really disappointed with my brand new Note 4. for several reasons.
Now I've discovered that it does not support voice and data at same time. That is a HUGE HUGE HUGE problem for me - especially if I'm using it as a notspot and miss phone calls. Are there any ROMS that deal with this issue? If not then I need to give up and return the phone before my 14 days is up.
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Wrong place to ask and no
TechnoHippie said:
I'm starting to get really disappointed with my brand new Note 4. for several reasons.
Now I've discovered that it does not support voice and data at same time. That is a HUGE HUGE HUGE problem for me - especially if I'm using it as a notspot and miss phone calls. Are there any ROMS that deal with this issue? If not then I need to give up and return the phone before my 14 days is up.
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If you are using hotspot you shouldn't miss phone calls. IT will automatically still ring but stop your data. :\
No, no rom can help with this.
You can get an unlocked note 4 that doesn't utilize sprint spark or integrate ur sprint number with Google voice and use calling and texting over data with hangouts. Other than that ur out of luck.
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You're posting in the wrong sub forum.
Take the time to read into things you're looking for.
To answer the ignorant question, no it's hardware limitation.
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No Sprint Spark device will allow calls and data at the same time.
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You're posting in the wrong sub forum.
Take the time to read into things you're looking for.
To answer the ignorant question, no it's hardware limitation.
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I don't think the question was all that ignorant - its not a hardware limitation of the phone - it's the spark network that it's on. Other Sprint phones have this ability - and if you had a way to get your Note 4 OFF the spark network and onto their other one, this problem would not exist. I was wondering if there was a ROM that dealt with this - but I guess not.
If you try using hang outs for calls do I deleted phone.apk?
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I don't think the question was all that ignorant - its not a hardware limitation of the phone - it's the spark network that it's on. Other Sprint phones have this ability - and if you had a way to get your Note 4 OFF the spark network and onto their other one, this problem would not exist. I was wondering if there was a ROM that dealt with this - but I guess not.
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Actually its a spark hardware issue. He's right. Be careful the way you word things. The way you are saying it, makes it seem as though you could just turn off spark and solve the problem. Whereas thats not the issue. Itsba combination if the hardware required for spark and the was spark is setup in our devices.
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If you try using hang outs for calls do I deleted phone.apk?
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Nope just make a call from hangouts or google voice. Leave the phone apk intact.
There are older phones - such as the Galaxy S4 - that you still get 4G data and can talk at the same time - because these phones are not on the Spark network. It would seem logical that one could configure your Note 4 to use the network that these older S4's are using - changing the APNS, making changes to your CSC...etc etc etc. It's not a hardware limitation of the phone - it's a hardware limitation of the spark network - so all you need to do is config the phone to use the other network. Problem of course is that Sprint sure as hell does not want you to figure this out and thus won't do anything to assist you in doing so.
But - at this point - I really don't care. This has me so pissed that I'm giving up and going to try T-mobile. What kind of loooser move is this by Sprint? Have top-tier smart phone that you can't multitask talk/surf at same time? Horrible, horrible move by sprint.
Yes I understand I could use hangouts to kinda get around this - but it's just worth it - furthermore this problem will still exist when trying to use the phone as a hotspot - and you can't use hangouts to make phone calls while using the phone as a hotspot - so again it's a hole they've dug us into that there simply is no way out of - other than dumping Sprint for ANY OTHER carrier that has the Note 4 - cause none of the other carriers have this issue.
Such a shame.
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There are older phones - such as the Galaxy S4 - that you still get 4G data and can talk at the same time - because these phones are not on the Spark network. It would seem logical that one could configure your Note 4 to use the network that these older S4's are using - changing the APNS, making changes to your CSC...etc etc etc. It's not a hardware limitation of the phone - it's a hardware limitation of the spark network - so all you need to do is config the phone to use the other network. Problem of course is that Sprint sure as hell does not want you to figure this out and thus won't do anything to assist you in doing so.
But - at this point - I really don't care. This has me so pissed that I'm giving up and going to try T-mobile. What kind of loooser move is this by Sprint? Have top-tier smart phone that you can't multitask talk/surf at same time? Horrible, horrible move by sprint.
Yes I understand I could use hangouts to kinda get around this - but it's just worth it - furthermore this problem will still exist when trying to use the phone as a hotspot - and you can't use hangouts to make phone calls while using the phone as a hotspot - so again it's a hole they've dug us into that there simply is no way out of - other than dumping Sprint for ANY OTHER carrier that has the Note 4 - cause none of the other carriers have this issue.
Such a shame.
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Except for the fact that no other carriers has unlimited data and Sprint knows this. So if you want unlimited data you have to pay by Sprints rules. Or go to other carrier, pay twice what you pay now, get 5GB per month and hit for ten bucks for ever gig you go over or get throttled so bad you might as well be using radio service.
tmobile now offers unlimited 4g no cap. in my case the total monthly bill is within 20cents of sprint. and surf and talk same time. choice seems obvious to me.
Simultaneous voice and data is a focus for Sprint and is part of network vision but isnt the top priority. Top is increasing speeds and stability in the network. Eventually it will be a capability.
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tmobile now offers unlimited 4g no cap. in my case the total monthly bill is within 20cents of sprint. and surf and talk same time. choice seems obvious to me.
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Well go to tmobile all ill say .
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Simultaneous voice and data is a focus for Sprint and is part of network vision but isnt the top priority. Top is increasing speeds and stability in the network. Eventually it will be a capability.
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I have a Version Note 4 and a Sprint Note 4 in my hands. Verizon has 2 bars - Sprint has 4 bars. Verizon download speed - around 11mb average. Sprint download speeds - average less than 1mb. So 1/2 the signal yet 10 times the speed on verizon. Tomorrow I will have a Tmobile one and will see how it does - but if Sprint is trying to deal with speed they're sure doing a crappy job of it. I used signal check pro to validate the signals.
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Well go to tmobile all ill say .
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Yep - I have it ordered should be here in 24 hours or so. Of course the next thing is all this has taken so long that now I'm past the 14day no-return policy with sprint - so I expect a battle when I try to return the phone 2 days after the 14th day. If anyone has any suggestions on how to deal with that let me know.
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Yep - I have it ordered should be here in 24 hours or so. Of course the next thing is all this has taken so long that now I'm past the 14day no-return policy with sprint - so I expect a battle when I try to return the phone 2 days after the 14th day. If anyone has any suggestions on how to deal with that let me know.
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Own up and take responsibility for keeping the device longer than the 14day. There is plenty of info here, to search through and make an informed decision.
Lol @ Spark isn't a hardware issue, thats only a half truth. Until we get VoLTE
Guys,
I don't know how many of us are left but I'm sure the numbers are few and I believe this might be the best forum on the interwebs for this. I have a serious question and I want a place I can get some ongoing feedback and interaction and I know you are up to the task!
My Onyx Black Note 7 (bestest/most favortitist phone I've ever held) was summarily hotlined late last month. I was successful in getting it turned back on only to have it happen again 1 week later. SAD. I re-activated my Note 3 and now have two devices I use daily which seems really dumb. I WANT MY NOTE 7 BACK!!! I have been reading about trimming SIM cards down to fit and see that some have had promising results.
I contacted a buddy who works in a Verizon corporate store and he said that trimming my Micro SIM, from my active Note 3, to Nano size and putting it in my Note 7 would work...but not for long. They will eventually hotline me again (darn IMEI).
So...who has done/tried this? How did it go? How long did it last?
After the big trim, my SIM won't work in my Note 3 any longer and I'll have to get a replacement. This doesn't sound like a game I want to play till Fall.
I would like to believe that at some point they might stop the hotline game but it's probably wishful thinking.
Thanks Team.
i kept mine too and it does make a cool little tablet. if i could get it back on verizon's network i most definitely would do so.
but another issue is this: i took the replacement and therefore have the PHE firmware and am unable to root. but even if i could root, who would put together a ROM for such a device? there are only a handful of people who are in this boat. but that said, root for the PHE firmware would be nice to have...
I recently just let my phone go. It isn't worth it in the end, unless you take the phone to another network or really, really want to deal with with the company as a whole. My phone was hot lined, just like everyone else's. I had another rep take the hotline off, and had the note working again for about a week till it was turned off again. After emailing the CEO, and eventually talking to corporate office, the woman over the phone offered me, at best, a free certified S4 with a $20 increase to my line access fee for a 2-year contract. This option would have costed me the price of another Note7 in the end. At that point, going up in the chain isn't going to get you a refund, nor will they allow the phone to work on the network.
In the legal realm, Verizon can't hot line a phone because they "feel like the device is dangerous". They can't hot line a phone because "they want too" either. They can only hot line a phone under whatever clauses warrant it. If you bring this information to a Verizon rep, and ask them to provide prove that the US CPSC specifically is forcing all cell phone companies to hotline the phone...blah blah blah they'll tell you cool get a lawyer and go up the chain. Even mentioning the term "voluntary" recall triggers them. The store i went into, actually just to give someone a hard time over the whole thing, physically stepped away from me when he saw my phone and the look on his face was utter disgust, like what am I still doing with it? But, whatever.
Beyond all the legality, the system itself is auditing accounts with valid ID's. Note7 IMEI's that is. If the system catches one on an active line, the phone will get hot lined. At that point, you have to find a tech rep who will switch it off, or just reactivate the device. Nobody knows how often or how long the system audit will stay on for, but its there and that can not be avoided. With the system in place, AND fighting an entire company who doesn't want another liability issue, its just over.
The two solutions that current work: Fight the system, or bring the phone to a prepaid network. I'm sorry, and I wish I could offer you more help. I mean hell, I was given the device for free and I still fought to keep using it. Long after the whole thing went down with the recall and everything.
Thanks for the replies.
Yeah it sucks.
I pre-ordered mine, spent week setting it up perfectly only to have to return it a month later. I then followed every forum and had every conceivable block in place in the end, to avoid some crippling malady (so far still 100% charging, no nag screen. Did these happen to any Verizon customers?) Then came the dreaded hotline. The first time I was hit, they directed all of my outgoing calls to my personal voice mail message making it impossible to even call customer support. I had to borrow a phone to call in.
And now... it's a gorgeous, joy to hold wi-fi tablet.
My hope is that they will stop this hotline nonsense at some point and I can do the SIM swap. I have read a couple of posts that swapping back and forth isn't all that difficult but even so, sounds like a PITA.
In the end I'm just sad about the whole situation but I'm sure a new and improved Note will lift my spirits and all will be right in my world again.
Cheers
has anyone done the rooting for the note 7 and had it fail in odin process what do i do so i may proceed and get it rooted successfully?
I'm doing the same exact thing as you: Using two devices daily.
I use my cracked Galaxy S4 for call & SMS (which is rarely) and my Note 7 for everything else.
Just waiting till the day I can buy the Galaxy S8 and only have to carry around one device.
My solution for using my VZW Note 7 was to put my tmobile sim in it. I got the Note 7 via work but always used it with my personal tmobile sim. I use my note 7 every damn day and have not been updated, blocked or even charge limited. I love my Note 7. I did get a V20 to replace it but that phone is horrid. I'll never give up my N7.
[A note 3 SIM won't work because it's too big, the chip part is larger than the entire Note 7 SIM. Those that have done this are using Note 4 or later SIMs.
Based on my research, you can successfully trim a Micro SIM down to a Nano SIM. You do have to cut through the metal but it will work.
Now another question; are you going to jump on an S8 (or plus) or wait till the Fall and hopefully a new Note?
Is Verizon's method based on the phone IMEI or build.prop device name? With root it's easy to change the build.prop and with Xposed there's an IMEI change module. Would this work?
I have 3 Note 7's, non are rooted yet. Not sure which updates they have but I'm going to try.
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Based on my research, you can successfully trim a Micro SIM down to a Nano SIM. You do have to cut through the metal but it will work.
Now another question; are you going to jump on an S8 (or plus) or wait till the Fall and hopefully a new Note?
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S8 plus FTW.
As long as it has a headphone jack.
If there's no headphone jack, Samsung is on my sh!t list.
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S8 plus FTW.
As long as it has a headphone jack.
If there's no headphone jack, Samsung is on my sh!t list.
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So S Pen is something you can live without?
I cannot.
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So S Pen is something you can live without?
I cannot.
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Yep absolutely. The S pen is cool and all, but I haven't really used it in months.
I just hope Samsung integrates the GIF maker into the Galaxy S8 plus, that's the coolest function.
I'm still rockin my n7 fully functional... minus the crack on the back glass. So mad. They tried many things but I'm using it right now
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They hot lined me. I turned it back on. They hot lined again. I went to turn back on and sim was zapped. So I clicked the little link to order a new sim for my n7 for free through VZ. It came and n7 works 2 plus weeks. Ordered a backup nano sim too. They'll quit
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They hot lined me. I turned it back on. They hot lined again. I went to turn back on and sim was zapped. So I clicked the little link to order a new sim for my n7 for free through VZ. It came and n7 works 2 plus weeks. Ordered a backup nano sim too. They'll quit
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I hope so!! Please keep us updated ok?
Thanks
Still going strong!
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My solution for using my VZW Note 7 was to put my tmobile sim in it. I got the Note 7 via work but always used it with my personal tmobile sim. I use my note 7 every damn day and have not been updated, blocked or even charge limited. I love my Note 7. I did get a V20 to replace it but that phone is horrid. I'll never give up my N7.
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Exactly what I'm doing. Signed up for T-Mobile one and using their sim. I plan on using it till the note 8 is released
Went the whole month of February suspended, then I activated a s7 and switched the sim over to the n7. Been working since the first. Returned the s7, holding out til the s8 plus has been out awhile before jumping to that.
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The s7 felt so slow and gimped compared to the n7. Can't go backwards in the smartphone world.
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Oyeve said:
My solution for using my VZW Note 7 was to put my tmobile sim in it. I got the Note 7 via work but always used it with my personal tmobile sim. I use my note 7 every damn day and have not been updated, blocked or even charge limited. I love my Note 7. I did get a V20 to replace it but that phone is horrid. I'll never give up my N7.
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Hello Oyeve,
I was hotlined by Verizon and that was the last straw after a dozen years of business with them. I am thinking of doing the same thing as you, but I don't want to scare T-Mobile and run into the same hotline problem. How's it going on T-Mobile with your Verizon Note 7 since your post here?
Thanks,
Egyptmex
Sans SIM, Successful Hard Factory Reset on Note 7
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Hello Oyeve,
I was hotlined by Verizon and that was the last straw after a dozen years of business with them. I am thinking of doing the same thing as you, but I don't want to scare T-Mobile and run into the same hotline problem. How's it going on T-Mobile with your Verizon Note 7 since your post here?
Thanks,
Egyptmex
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After backing up my Note 7 and removing the SIM card, I am pleased to report that the dreaded OTA update I successfully dodged for months when I was a Verizon customer no longer appears after a hard reset (simultaneous press of Home, Power, and Volume Up buttons and then choosing factory reset from menu)!