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Question about streaming.

I am looking for a cheap emulator box but primarily will Ouya as a replacement for my ATV1 streaming device.
I stream video from certain XBMC addons and was wondering if anyone can provide feedback from streaming video through XBMC on a Ouya?
Thank you.

So far (past week or so) my experience has been very impressive, I have been streaming my personal movie collection via local network) however for some reason (think I remember reading they screwed something up in their firmware update) the ouya crashes and hangs via ethernet, I was starting to get really peed off, read that, pulled the plug; all good!? DTS currently doesn't work (someone please correct and enlighten me if I'm wrong), which is a pain in the yaris, but is apparently "in the works", the ouya team seem like a bunch of active awesome people though, so I have full confidence they will work with the XBMC dudes fully to get that sorted! I was previously using a sumvision cyclone nano slim plus mk3 (1GB RAM version) with an adapted XBMC 12.0 version for the Pivos Xios (same beast essentially) which was flawless! I am yet to venture down the route of plugins though, so my response may be useless!)
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mikeone33 said:
I am looking for a cheap emulator box but primarily will Ouya as a replacement for my ATV1 streaming device.
I stream video from certain XBMC addons and was wondering if anyone can provide feedback from streaming video through XBMC on a Ouya?
Thank you.
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I successfully use 1Channel / SportsDevil / TVcatchup / Twitch.tv on my two Ouyas. I've recently set up a Google Music addon that works great too.
This is both using the original sideloaded XBMC and the one available in the Discover menus.
I stream a lot of MP4s across my home network, thogh it seems to struggle a bit with XVids for some reason.

I use it to watch movies and shows from mashup, 1channel, sportsdevil, icefilms and few others. Everything works really well and I only have buffering when everyone in the house is using the WiFi. Even then its not bad. May happen once or twice a show if that.
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[Q] KODI with 24hz somehow?

Got my FTW today with the latest actual firmware - so no point in downgrading.
I just installed the latest KODI nightly (helix based) within FTV. There's no chance in selecting 1080 @ 24hz, because the resolution-options are greyed out. Also SPMC is not able to select those setting. So - is this version not able to select resolution options at all? Is there ANY way to force XBMC/KODI to use [email protected] constantly? With 60 (or 50) native 24hz movies are nearly not smootly watchable.... stutters every few secs

fattymcdirty said:
Got my FTW today with the latest actual firmware - so no point in downgrading.
I just installed the latest KODI nightly (helix based) within FTV. There's no chance in selecting 1080 @ 24hz, because the resolution-options are greyed out. Also SPMC is not able to select those setting. So - is this version not able to select resolution options at all? Is there ANY way to force XBMC/KODI to use [email protected] constantly? With 60 (or 50) native 24hz movies are nearly not smootly watchable.... stutters every few secs
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its 60hz only, afaik its not possible to change refresh rates in android.

Android L has auto frame rate switching, so hopefully the Fire TV is updated to that OS. Its not a Kodi thing, but and Android issue which has not supported 24hz till this day

ars_92 said:
Android L has auto frame rate switching, so hopefully the Fire TV is updated to that OS. Its not a Kodi thing, but and Android issue which has not supported 24hz till this day
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Seeing as it's still on 4.2... somehow I doubt that. Custom AOSP builds is a different story though.

Linux May Be The Solution
rbox said:
Seeing as it's still on 4.2... somehow I doubt that. Custom AOSP builds is a different story though.
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Openelec and AmLinux have auto-refresh rate switching. How hard would it be to get a Linux build on the Fire TV?:fingers-crossed:

zahir32 said:
Openelec and AmLinux have auto-refresh rate switching. How hard would it be to get a Linux build on the Fire TV?:fingers-crossed:
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They already have Fedora running on it. But it's more about kernel support and the kernel video driver than the Linux dist.

rbox said:
Seeing as it's still on 4.2... somehow I doubt that. Custom AOSP builds is a different story though.
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The 2013 kindle hdx was updated from 4.2 to 4.4 when the 2014 kindle hdx was launched. So who knows, when the fireTV 2 launches with android L/android TV next year they might just update this device with the identical firmware too. Just trying to be optimistic here lol.
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Hi,
is there any news on this? My Raspberry supports it perfectly, so I would like to get a faster hardware, and the Fire TV seems to be a nice option, but without framerate switching, its worthless

could someone port this script over from another android tv setup to help with the 24p /24hz
http://www.freaktab.com/archive/index.php/t-14440.html

ars_92 said:
Android L has auto frame rate switching, so hopefully the Fire TV is updated to that OS. Its not a Kodi thing, but and Android issue which has not supported 24hz till this day
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My asus cube running google tv was able to output at 24hz.

XBMC/SPMC/Kodi crashes on Amazon FTV !!! ( Solved )

I have tried Xbmc Gotham, Spmc and Kodi alpha on Amazon Fire TV.
But every time i found the same problem of crashing, i just wonder is it really a problem or just something wrong with my AFTV ?. It happens very often so i can not conclude that when exactly it crashes. Even i have not rooted my device. and nothing is installed except XBMC.
Also somebody would like to answer is there any way to update librtmp without root ?
Any suggestions would be appreciated !
Thank

arif01 said:
I have tried Xbmc Gotham, Spmc and Kodi alpha on Amazon Fire TV.
But every time i found the same problem of crashing, i just wonder is it really a problem or just something wrong with my AFTV ?. It happens very often so i can not conclude that when exactly it crashes. Even i have not rooted my device. and nothing is installed except XBMC.
Also somebody would like to answer is there any way to update librtmp without root ?
Any suggestions would be appreciated !
Thank
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Did you try the KODI forum? Mine crashes every fourth selection, no matter what section or add-on I am in.

What addons do you have enabled?
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captainjapan said:
What addons do you have enabled?
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1Channel
Crackle
ESPN Video
HD-Trailers.com
Icefilms
IGN.com
Revision3
YouTube
Plus WMC.PVR
Doesn't matter which one I'm using, crashes just as I select the fourth video, even when changing channels in PVR.

that is not normal behavior.. I've been running pretty solid since April. You need to produce a log and see what's happening could be so many things.

BigB42078 said:
1Channel
Crackle
ESPN Video
HD-Trailers.com
Icefilms
IGN.com
Revision3
YouTube
Plus WMC.PVR
Doesn't matter which one I'm using, crashes just as I select the fourth video, even when changing channels in PVR.
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Have you tried running without addons installed? Try only one installed at a single time to root out the cause. I only have Icefilms on two devices and have yet to experience a crash.

Set decoding method to "Hardware accelerated", fixed crashing for me.
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BigB42078 said:
Did you try the KODI forum? Mine crashes every fourth selection, no matter what section or add-on I am in.
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Sorry for late reply as i was on vacation.
NO i haven't tried there, i thought i will get quick response/solution here instead
mastafunk said:
that is not normal behavior.. I've been running pretty solid since April. You need to produce a log and see what's happening could be so many things.
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File is attached , if possible please explain me the error information
Now i have removed the file as the problem is solved (23Oct2014)
verboten said:
Have you tried running without addons installed? Try only one installed at a single time to root out the cause. I only have Icefilms on two devices and have yet to experience a crash.
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I have only installed one addon
V8vroom said:
Set decoding method to "Hardware accelerated", fixed crashing for me.
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By default it is selected
Thanks all for resonses

Now the working/solution part
This solution will ONLY solve problem for those who are using Live tv, (at-least as I do). Both, SPMC and official XBMC crashed on Live tv (or any Live Stream addson) but not when playback from local contents. Now my fire tv runs quit smoothly with no crashed issues.
These are the following steps which needs to be done :
1. Turn off both filters (mediacodec and libstagefright) under hardware acceleration.
(goto System->Settings->Video->Acceleration>disable both filters MediaCodec and Libstagefright)
2. Change hardware acceleration to software. (when there is no filter activated it will automatically work as software, so basically Decoding method can be leave as Hardware accelerated as well)
3. Enable 'Allow multi thread software decoding' (optional if you changed DecMtd to Sofwre)
For those user who are not using LIVE TV but they have the same problem while using any other addson or streaming media from local server.
ONLY turning off Mediacodec could stabilize the system. Also bare in mind everything works fine with software rendering but sometimes cpu can be exhausted so try to put the device in open area where air can easily circulate, haven't notice so much heat but its better to be prepare.
With Mediacodec disabled, it also notices that XBMC runs little slower while watching movies and for example navigating the menus. That could also be cachemembuffersize, if experiences the lagging issue increase the cachemembuffersize.
Now i simply request to our respected developers to make some adjustments/fix to the media library so it can smoothly support Fire TV hardware.
Thanks all folks for helping each other.

arif01 said:
Now the working/solution part
This solution will ONLY solve problem for those who are using Live tv, (at-least as I do). Both, SPMC and official XBMC crashed on Live tv (or any Live Stream addson) but not when playback from local contents. Now my fire tv runs quit smoothly with no crashed issues.
These are the following steps which needs to be done :
1. Turn off both filters (mediacodec and libstagefright) under hardware acceleration.
(goto System->Settings->Video->Acceleration>disable both filters MediaCodec and Libstagefright)
2. Change hardware acceleration to software. (when there is no filter activated it will automatically work as software, so basically Decoding method can be leave as Hardware accelerated as well)
3. Enable 'Allow multi thread software decoding' (optional if you changed DecMtd to Sofwre)
For those user who are not using LIVE TV but they have the same problem while using any other addson or streaming media from local server.
ONLY turning off Mediacodec could stabilize the system. Also bare in mind everything works fine with software rendering but sometimes cpu can be exhausted so try to put the device in open area where air can easily circulate, haven't notice so much heat but its better to be prepare.
With Mediacodec disabled, it also notices that XBMC runs little slower while watching movies and for example navigating the menus. That could also be cachemembuffersize, if experiences the lagging issue increase the cachemembuffersize.
Now i simply request to our respected developers to make some adjustments/fix to the media library so it can smoothly support Fire TV hardware.
Thanks all folks for helping each other.
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Changing these settings worked for me too! Only on Live Tv my Premium channels would freeze and just keep playing audio(DIY, Lifetime, History, Animal Planet, Fox News, All HBO, SHOWTIME etc...) BUT now the problem is the picture has a lag to it, without he accelerations enabled they lag, I am using the new fire tv 2015, any other ideas to fix this or is Amazon Fire Tv just no good for Kodi? I will say I tried Kodi 14.2, 15.2, 16, and I have a paid subscription for iptv, my same settings work perfect on my windows machine.
Thanks

Video Issues w/ Side Loaded Kodi

So I decided to pick up AFTV a week ago after reading so many good reviews about the device and how well it runs Kodi, but I am having an issue running certain MKV files with dual audio. When I try to play the videos Kodi either crashes to the FTV menu or restarts the whole device. I tried to disable the accelerators in settings and the video starts to play with stuttering and no audio. Anyone know what could be the cause of this and is there a fix available.
BTW I'm running Helix 14.0

hyelife said:
So I decided to pick up AFTV a week ago after reading so many good reviews about the device and how well it runs Kodi, but I am having an issue running certain MKV files with dual audio. When I try to play the videos Kodi either crashes to the FTV menu or restarts the whole device. I tried to disable the accelerators in settings and the video starts to play with stuttering and no audio. Anyone know what could be the cause of this and is there a fix available.
BTW I'm running Helix 14.0
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I had the same issues with both XBMC 13 and 14.. After lots of searching I found
I cant post links yet, but google "Work in Progress - Experimental simple deinterlacing" and you will get the Kodi forum that has an updated kodi for the issue.
Hope this helps

Try SPMC. I had problems of somekind with all versions of XBMC that I have tried on the Fire TV til I installed SPMC. I have not had one problem with SPMC and could instantly tell a difference in the smoothness of streams and video playback.

I think i've tried them all.
porkenhimer said:
Try SPMC. I had problems of somekind with all versions of XBMC that I have tried on the Fire TV til I installed SPMC. I have not had one problem with SPMC and could instantly tell a difference in the smoothness of streams and video playback.
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My problem with any version of XBMC whether it be SPMC or KODI is that 720p MPEG-2 always stutters. I've tried everything I think including.
SW only
Listagefright only
Mediacodec only
Listagefright and MediaCodec
SPMC 13.4 & 14.2 (I think these are the final versions i used)
KODI 13.4 & 14.2 & 15.1 (I think those are the final versions)
My next try was going to be to use MX player and the playercorefactory.xml but so far I haven't been able to get that to work. It just flashes really quick and does nothing when I click on a channel.
BTW....I have comcast so everything is in MPEG-2 and I use an HDHOMERUN prime that feeds a windows 7 machine with WMC running serverWMC and Plex (w/ serverWMC plex plugin). I also have an xbox 360 and that works perfectly but the only way I can get fire tv stick to work reliably is by transcoding to h.264. But this adds at least 10 seconds to a channel change and It really complicates the setup and maintenance. I would really like to not have to transcode and use KODI on the firetv stick as my front end. However, without mpeg2 720p support I can't.

Which kodi version recommended for the FTV Stick?

I currently have kodi 14.2 installed, but HD Videos are a little choppy. Definately watchable, but still a little annoying. I don't know where the prolem lies exactly because the CPU is only at about 30% load and there are no dropped and skipped frames.
So i thought maybe someone can recommend a version of kodi that works better on the FTV stick.
Any suggestions?

Try using SPMC 14.2. SPMC is basically tailored to Android devices like the Fire TV and works great.

DaPhinc said:
I currently have kodi 14.2 installed, but HD Videos are a little choppy. Definately watchable, but still a little annoying. I don't know where the prolem lies exactly because the CPU is only at about 30% load and there are no dropped and skipped frames.
So i thought maybe someone can recommend a version of kodi that works better on the FTV stick.
Any suggestions?
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its probably the fact your watching 24hz videos at 60hz... huge downfall of the fireTV imo.

Thanks guys. I thought SPMC is specifically for RockChip devices. I will give it a try on my FTV Stick.
And about the 24hz vs. 60 hz thing: Is there a way to circumvent this?

So i installed SPMC today.
Unfortunately the only difference i saw was that it uses more than double the amount of CPU load than official kodi.

DaPhinc said:
So i installed SPMC today.
Unfortunately the only difference i saw was that it uses more than double the amount of CPU load than official kodi.
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did you try the nightlies of Kodi? I moved out of SPMC back and forth and now am at one of the recent nightlies with my backup which has the root enabled for suspend / etc. I do like Kodi but its getting a little dated and crashes very often. specially when live streaming from a website.

I've been using SPMC 14.2 on my new fire stick without issue and have it on my AFTV also. I've never had any issues with it.

Run any version of Kodi you want for a week to get used to it, then switch to SPMC, the results will be noticed quickly. Thats what I did and within seconds of playing live streams from my favorites list I realized that SPMC was the only version of XBMC/Kodi for Android that played every stream format smoothly. Every version of XBMC/Kodi I have ever used on android never played all stream formats without having some problem on certain formats, except for SPMC.

porkenhimer said:
Run any version of Kodi you want for a week to get used to it, then switch to SPMC, the results will be noticed quickly. Thats what I did and within seconds of playing live streams from my favorites list I realized that SPMC was the only version of XBMC/Kodi for Android that played every stream format smoothly. Every version of XBMC/Kodi I have ever used on android never played all stream formats without having some problem on certain formats, except for SPMC.
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That was precisely my experience when I switched to spmc last summer on aftv. Some said it was placebic because from Gotham on there shouldn't be any real reason spmc runs faster than kodi. But after a couple of weeks I moved back to kodi because I found similar glitches. Maybe I should've given it another try?...probably not for my boxes because they generally run well and its a pain amending file paths for advanced settings among other minor reasons, but you've got me intrigued about using it on the stick. Helix 14.2 isnt running optimally.

KLit75 said:
That was precisely my experience when I switched to spmc last summer on aftv. Some said it was placebic because from Gotham on there shouldn't be any real reason spmc runs faster than kodi. But after a couple of weeks I moved back to kodi because I found similar glitches. Maybe I should've given it another try?...probably not for my boxes because they generally run well and its a pain amending file paths for advanced settings among other minor reasons, but you've got me intrigued about using it on the stick. Helix 14.2 isnt running optimally.
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When I first tried SPMC, I had the official XBMC installed. I installed SPMC, copied my addons and userdata folders. Then I tried the same exact streams from the same exact favorites.xml and they played so much smoother with SPMC than with the official build. It was very noticable. The official build did not have problems with every stream format, but it did with some, while SPMC has had no problems with any format. I ran them side by side on the same device and SPMC had better results so I ran with it instead of the official build. Like I said the official build is fine too, I just got tired of watching channels that made every movement look robotic and SPMC does not make any streams look robotic so for me its better.

Fire TV user here.
I really don't like SPMC's skip steps feature that it's backported from Isengard. It's even worse in every Isengard build I've tried.
Plus how it exits back to the Amazon home screen if you hold down the back button. That's really annoying.
Helix 14.2 gets my vote.

I've been using TVMC without issue. Wonder if I should make the switch to something else. Not really sure what I'm missing though.

Well I installed SPMC and copy/paste the appropriate folder to keep my settings/add-ons.
Performance seems the same except that now spmc is listed on recent apps.