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Hey HTC one owners

I just added a line to get the blue model from best buy and my other phone is an s4 rooted and unlocked. I know this one isn't but so far this one beats my s4 by responsiveness and smoothness. Barely any lags which my s4 had quite a bit. Love this phone.
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We need a thread for this?

Seriously. It doesn't even make sense in English.
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Some people just like to communicate with others of similar interests and feel that a forum is the perfect place for this.

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Until a public root tool is available, I'm cool with almost any form of communication in this cell phone forum haha
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curly9 said:
I just added a line to get the blue model from best buy and my other phone is an s4 rooted and unlocked. I know this one isn't but so far this one beats my s4 by responsiveness and smoothness. Barely any lags which my s4 had quite a bit. Love this phone.
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I did the same exact thing. Same exact phones. Really glad I got the One.

Yes I love it. It's fast smooth. I love the aluminum feel of the phone. I love the external speakers. And beats
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As solid as this phone is, compared to the S4, I felt I didn't need a case for that phone and could toss it around, with the htc one it's like a baby, I am very gentle, just ordered a cruzerlite case, gotta love amazon points, $16 item shipped for $1.46

Just finished setting everything up, migrating from a Galaxy Nexus.
Phone is rock solid however all the bloatware + HTC Sense is killing this device.
Can't wait for root, I really really hate Verizon's crapware!

Glad to have you guys here in the community!
S-OFF is coming alive thanks to Sonic, hoping to get a card myself to help the remainders and those not willing to ship phone as far.
I just don't want to take a $1,300 loss...

andybones said:
Glad to have you guys here in the community!
S-OFF is coming alive thanks to Sonic, hoping to get a card myself to help the remainders and those not willing to ship phone as far.
I just don't want to take a $1,300 loss...
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Those cards are that ... wallet thumping? Good lord, either way there's got to be some way to jack it aside from the card. I mean, look at crApple products like the iPod and iPhone, even those can be modified (even if it's next to pointless anyways). I remember a couple years back they said that the HTC HD7s wouldn't ever be "unlocked" but alas it was. And some of those modifications to the Windows based OS were really cool. Aside from all that though; if you're close to me I'd drive there and get it done and drop a few bones your way for the service of course. But I believe someone out there has at least figured out a little bit. There's got to be something, if we can "hack" the PSP, we can sure "hack" this phone. lol

Yeah man I read that the prices were high for a 500-credit card, which can do 250 S-Offs at 2 credits a piece. Still that's brain-cramp inducing. I'd buy a couple credits to get mine S-Off'ed but I can't be without my phone for what will wind up being about 10 days between shipping and waiting for it to be processed. Kind of wish I'd hung onto my RAZR M for a couple weeks. lol
I can't be without my phone. I got a One without there being a known unlock because I can live with Sense. Swapped my Galaxy S4 for one when Amazon marked the Droid MAXX as "we don't know if we'll get this in stock again or not". Bleah. Anyway I love the One, way more responsive than the S4 I returned. Gonna hang onto this baby for a while.

I might buy a card and set a day to have everyone close meet at like a Starbucks in NYC, it would save stress, time, money (shipping to and from) you also not without your phone for 4-10 days and it never leaves your sight, you can watch me do S-OFF.

About ready to ditch Samsung...(darn it)

My current phone is a Note 4. I've been a Sammy user since Galaxy was introduced (started with Captivate, as I"m on AT&T.)
So, interestingly, I"m not very happy with the Note 4:
AT&T issue - Not rootable. (I don't care any longer for custom ROMS, but miss some capabilities that root offers)
I have several little crazy issues, but 2 main ones are: Google voice prompt speaker whistles with feedback when first say 'OK Google' (Got a replacement and same issue on it); Can't get any app to consistently read texts over BT while driving.
I think the bloatware is causing some performance problems for me. I have disabled several and it did help.
I have a LOT of apps installed. Always have. Counting bloatware that may not be disabled, I have around 150.
Oh, also, I have lots of problems with Pandora on this phone. When the accessory is launched from my car, often it fails. When I play Pandora app, it often quits playing if it is not the front/active app. Very annoying.
If multitasking, it definitely has strong lags.
So I was thinking that the Note 5 would be my final phone for a while (actually thought that about this one). But I read that the 4GB is half used up on initial boot. So, I'm thinking I need to move to something less bloated. I don't have any confidence that the Note 5 would be rootable, I did have confidence that it would be eventually on the Note 4...but it's taking a long time.
Given my large app list, I'm thinking thatI should not settle for less than 4GB . Less bloat may help that issue...look at a pure Android experience maybe. (Of course chasing that via a custom ROM may be an alternative...but we know the status of that on the Note 4. Plus, in the past I've tried a lot of different ROMS, including popular 'stable' ones, and they ALL have bugs.)
I'm hoping to get something that works much better hands free. Haven't had much luck with that with any of my Android phones. I had much better luck with that way back when I was on Microsoft's phone OS, before Windows phone...with Microsoft's Voice Command.

Thinking of switching to Tmobile. Trade in the Note 4 for a Moto X style. Great specs for $399. It'll be easy to pay off. Service monthly payments will be cheaper then att.
But I've invested money in a gear vr and cases. Still deciding and looking at other devices.
Also most Samsung phones on Tmobile are or at most times get root.
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I'm waiting for the official launch of the Note 5, and if it doesn't have the expandable memory as its being reported, then I'm a definite bye-bye Samsung. And no matter what, never again AT&T.

DARKCHYLDX101 said:
Thinking of switching to Tmobile. Trade in the Note 4 for a Moto X style. Great specs for $399. It'll be easy to pay off. Service monthly payments will be cheaper then att.
But I've invested money in a gear vr and cases. Still deciding and looking at other devices.
Also most Samsung phones on Tmobile are or at most times get root.
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I actually considered purchasing a TMobile one when I got this one. Could still sell/change...but I've lost confidence in the Samsung brand working. I hear good things about the Moto phones. I'm considering the Pure...but given my penchant for a lot of apps (none of them games), I'm thinking I need 4 GB RAM.
I don't want to change to TMobile due to less coverage. I have considered moving to Verizon to bet better data speed in my area (St. Augustine, FL), but they would cost me more than AT&T, and I'm not sure I would get better data speeds.
Kamau54 said:
I'm waiting for the official launch of the Note 5, and if it doesn't have the expandable memory as its being reported, then I'm a definite bye-bye Samsung. And no matter what, never again AT&T.
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Sounds pretty much for sure it won't have the SD. But even if it does, in my case, I'm just ready to move away from Samsung. Of course, I could find I have as much trouble getting what I want it to do with any of them.
I checked on the Moto site, and it says we can test for 14 days and return for free if not happy. I may just give that a whirl.

There is no expandable memory on the Note 5

Kamau54 said:
I'm waiting for the official launch of the Note 5, and if it doesn't have the expandable memory as its being reported, then I'm a definite bye-bye Samsung. And no matter what, never again AT&T.
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I used the note 5, it's the same memory as the s6, you shouldn't be surprised. And you should have no hope for root or an unlock on any att or verizon phone. Seriously, you all know what to expect, but the phone from tmobile or the international version.

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There is no expandable memory on the Note 5
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Yup, as I said, that's what is being reported.
thanitos said:
I used the note 5, it's the same memory as the s6, you shouldn't be surprised. And you should have no hope for root or an unlock on any att or verizon phone. Seriously, you all know what to expect, but the phone from tmobile or the international version.
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No surprise to me. That's part of why I'm ditching Samsung. Maybe my posts haven't been quite clear about that though.

I got to see and hold the note 5, just confirming the reports of no expandable media.

The point of this thread is .... ?

I feel you big time. I also love big ole sammy, but bloat is a huge problem. I have been using the GS6 edge for the last week and I will say I love it. My note 4 is sooooo sssluuggish. Its gets frustrating. I also have a lot of app.s. Maybe that is the problem. I got this to be my everyday device. A phablet. But I am really leaning the direction of just having my nexus for reading/gaming and a phone for social. That has really been working for me this past week. The GS6 Edge is very snappy and the less bloat on these new phones help a lot. I aloso disabled a bunch and put on nova on and call me speedy gonzalez because I am flying.

Yep me too! My next phone will definitely have to be the One plus Two or Moto X 2015. It all depends on what I can get my hands on first. I love Samsung, but if I can't have my freedom on what I wanna do with my phone, there's no point of having an android version of an iPhone. Because if those were my only two options, iPhone would be my first choice. I choose Android because of Root, and customization. Not stupid Knox and carriers locking the bootloader crap. I wish I would've kept my jailbroken iPhone if I knew that were the case. So yeah definitely One plus Two, maybe Moto X if it's unlockable and rootable

Since some Notes are locked down and others not,shouldn't everyone's anger be placed on the carrier? Obviously AT&T and Verizon are the ones at fault. If you like the Note series buy unlocked or go for the guaranteed unlocked Nexus. I have both so when I want to mess around I have the Nexus and sometimes it's nice to trade off to the full featured Note. It really is the best way to go and keeps my anger to a minimum. I have to say with the Nexus you never have these back and forth games and you can do whatever you want without worrying about an update locking you out for the long term.
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This is general discussion about att note 4. This is what op is doing. Please be more kind to people.

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I think the purpose is more obvious than your contribution to the thread.
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This is general discussion about att note 4. This is what op is doing. Please be more kind to people.
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Yup, generate discussion. I think it's been pretty successful at doing that.

May try T-Mobile Note 4 - Root...
Before I abandon Samsung, I may try abandoning the AT&T version of the Note 4.
I haven't been interested in putting on ROMS (did that a lot on previous phones, and I find even for those that are touted as 'solid', there are always one bug or another), but maybe that is what I should do. Been reading on various ROMS over on the T-Mobile forum.
So, if I do this, next I need to decide whether to abandon TW (I do like some of the features...), then if not, whether to install a KitKat or LP ROM. I may try one or both of those options, then if not happy, try AOSP.
Then if not happy, maybe by then there will be reviews out on others I'm considering...although the Nexus has to arrive. From what I'm seeing, it'll be October before that gets out.

My anger is with ATT for being locked down and even more so Samsung. Their greed is borderline criminal IMHO. There is absolutely no reason why the Note 4 and Edge cannot have the updated Touchwiz. Wish I had stuck with my Nexus 6, but only gave up on it because it didn't take advantage of the big screen and Android M took care of that. Been trying to trade my Edge for a G4 or N6 for weeks now.

Still seriously confused why some st**id carriers locked down phones? Should have make some research before trading my trustworthy Note 3 for Note 4 at&t. I don't see this device having unlocked bootloader soon G4 callling

I had faith they would break it and be able to root it. Seems that the developers for Samsung or AT&T is finally getting ahead of our developers and winning that battle.
I no longer have faith the AT&T will get rooted.
In fact, it's starting to feel like the leanings are headed to no root more and more.

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I had faith they would break it and be able to root it. Seems that the developers for Samsung or AT&T is finally getting ahead of our developers and winning that battle.
I no longer have faith the AT&T will get rooted.
In fact, it's starting to feel like the leanings are headed to no root more and more.
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Lol also 2nd ur opinion. I gave up on this phone been root able, deal is the phone is fast still so I don't have the need to root lol but I do have a gear s from att?which I would like to one day install a Droid port but sucks is att and locked. Stupid carrier

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Still seriously confused why some st**id carriers locked down phones? Should have make some research before trading my trustworthy Note 3 for Note 4 at&t. I don't see this device having unlocked bootloader soon G4 callling
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The locking of bootloaders is to exponentially increase security in order to gain military, government and corporate contracts...which they did. Verizon and AT&T Samsung devices were rated highest in security in today's market. T-Mobile and Sprint chose not to most likely because they do not have the coverage country-wide to encourage those sales.

AT&T Note 5 unable to root

http://www.idigitaltimes.com/samsun...d-features-att-and-verizon-models-wont-468357
Looks like the Note 3 will be my last Samsung phone

glad I left too..

Had no desire to root my note 4, and have no desire to root the 5. Besides for some bloat (that can mostly be disabled), I don't see a need for it.
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I won't buy a phone that cant' be rooted. I refuse to go back to having ads on the internet and deal with the samsung bloat.

Root, at least for the latest Generation of phones, in my personal opinion is a bit over rated. The phones run quite nicely, granted not the biggest fan of seeing Ads and the phones bloatware which I would love to strip out so I could recover some space. Still not the biggest deal breaker considering how well it works.

so, if your ATT was able to be rooted, are you saying you would not root it?

Package Disabler Pro app on Play Store will allow you to disable most apps and services.

Disabling the apps isn't the same as actually deleteing them. We all know that with root, when you debloat, the phone runs even smoother, more freed RAM and faster start ups. I hate not having root. I can live without an unlocked bootloader and having custom Kernels and ROMs but root is a need for me. I have so many root apps, xposed is always nice, Lucky Patcher is fun to have, DPI change is amazing for these big, high PPI displays and the main reason, debloat.
I'm sure the devs will figure something out. I have faith in them.

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Looks like the Note 3 will be my last Samsung phone
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I agree. Will be taking this one off the list of phones I might upgrade to. Due to trade in my g3. Shopping now. I think I should just wait and see the new nexus devices.

the note 4 on ATT is still unrootable....

Android is becoming the same as the iPhone cat and mouse game. People are afraid and want more secure phones so carriers are locking stuff down. I'm all for unlocked devices, in fact I still have my Nexus 6 also but I can only imagine how many devices a carrier or manufacturer get returned because someone that doesn't know what they are doing is returned. We see it all day long on xda. Get a Nexus and swap between a locked phone when you want stable. If you feel like messing around hack your Nexus.
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"Android" is becoming like Apple? Google/Android does nothing to lock down the phones. That is the manufactuers and more importantly carriers that request it. You want someone to blame for this? Blame AT&T. Even Samsung phones with Knox are rootable out of the box, it just throws a permanent flag so that they know if you try to warranty it. The carriers are to blame for the phones being locked down and no one else.

This will be the worst forum for a phone yet!

Anyone thought about putting up a bounty? I could care less about a custom recovery but I REALLY miss root. Enough to put a few bucks into a pot for anyone who figures it out.

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Anyone thought about putting up a bounty? I could care less about a custom recovery but I REALLY miss root. Enough to put a few bucks into a pot for anyone who figures it out.
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From what I understand we need firmware first with the "anti-root" buzzing around the phone would be disabled tell it came out making it almost pointless to try tell then. I got dm-variety verification failed and my phone wouldn't turn on just from a failed and upload from the sdk.

Such a useless thread.
Don't want it. Don't buy it.
Go fish for a one plus invite .

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Nope the AT&T Note 4 forum has this beat....for now.

They have had a year to get it that way... Give this one some more time for the butthurt to settle in.
It is amazing how many tasker tasks I had that needed root... Oh well, it does have a nice camera...

I bought a international version in gold and couldn't be happier, no lock crap on it, flies on cricket which as we know is AT&T

Bought this phone. Now I am sad because no root. Maybe switch it with a LG G4.

Trying to make the best of a bad situation (root)

I have been hanging around on my Sprint Note 3, for quite a while looking for my next phone. I was thinking about waiting for the new Nexus 6, especially since I have a Google Fi invite. My girlfriend decided to surprise me by trading in my note 3, and adding me her at&t mobile value share. I am happy to be off Sprint, but my girlfriend didn't realize the downsides to the phone she got me. Battery, SD card is a little annoying, but of course no root. Yikes.
I'm going to attempt to keep the phone because it is a gift. But, for those on the note 5 bandwagon,have you found passable solutions to any of the things we always use.
Whether it's proper adblocking, disabling all the bloatware, or even being to completely remove what I don't want on my phone.
Has anyone found anything that can even help recreate the functions of root we all miss.
I like the phone a lot, but rooted would make me love it. Or gladly throw in a few hundred to a thousand dollar's to members researching over the new Knox subsystem.

Keep in mind root negates android pay and samsung pay I believe. The latter is Mr favorite feature.
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Keep in mind root negates android pay and samsung pay I believe. The latter is Mr favorite feature.
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I don't get the Samsung pay thing and why people are so enamored with it.
It looks like it takes twice as much effort as whipping out my card, and you still have to manually enter the pin anyway. Why is everybody so Snake Charmed with this?

Pin? I use cc and at places that don't have nfc.
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You could have easily found an answer to all your questions on the first page of the sub-forums in this sub. There is Package disabler pro to disable all your bloatware, and adguard (not in appstore) for adblocking. As far as features we all miss from root? You may need to be more specific, this is the first phone I have not rooted and installed custom roms on, and I am not really missing anything. As far as not liking this phone for not having a microsd and removable battery. The Nexus 6p you were interested in does not have any of those features either.

How many considering returning it back to Verizon?

We know that Verizon has gimped this device. We know Verizon has sold app space on our device storage to the highest bidder. Yes we could disable apps and get around a lot of things. But Verizon has literally treated as FOOLS. Is it all worth it?
We have a 14 day return policy. In my case I have 90 days thru Costco (I believe).
How many if you are seriously considering returning it?
I have until Friday Sept 2nd for my 14 days.
It's amazing how much I had enjoyed the OP3. Now I'm seriously considering throwing the phone back in Verizon's face (figuratively of course).
How many of you are considering returning?

Why return when you can Odin TMO or AT&T firmware since the hardware is the same for all carriers? The only feature I wanted was Samsung cloud and that is now doable and working for me. BThe rest of the features disabled are minimal IMHO.
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I bought the device thru Verizon at Costco. If I terminate the line with Verizon I have to give the device back or pay it off.
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I bought the device thru Verizon at Costco. If I terminate the line with Verizon I have to give the device back or pay it off.
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Understood. Was just trying to provide an option otherwise. [emoji4]
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Will it work on Verizon if I flash tmo or sprint thru Odin?
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No, they don't support the same bands I believe. Unless someone finds a way to enable them, you could always go with the N930U when it comes out.

TBH I always consider returning anything. Then the 14 days comes and goes...
Look, it's only been a week and there's already root. Even if it's a pain in the arse to do, you have it. That may be close to a record.
Compared to the Note 5 which hasn't been touched. Look how long the Note 4 took to get somewhere.
We could only hope for a way to unlock the bootloader.
But until then, at least there is a way to root the device and it's actually a bonafide root. None of this temporary stuff.
I'm sure this cross flashing stuff will get patched in a future release.
But it's always a challenge at first.
I liked the hardware and options when the S7E came out. Then as I used the phone it started pissing me off. That one I regretted keeping past the return. When I got my GearVR (finally got it in June!) I broke out my Note 5 and used it with that. Then I realized how much I missed the Note 5 and started using it again and put the S7E in a drawer.
Now that the Note 7 is here I'm finding it has the features I like in the Note 5 with the features of the S7E minus its shortcomings. (especially the over sensitive screen and edge panels!). I do wish they stuck with the 16MP sensor. HOWEVER, the camera software on the Note 7, particularly in professional mode, is superior to any Samsung device prior. Being able to adjust shutter speed while shooting video rocks!

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No, they don't support the same bands I believe. Unless someone finds a way to enable them, you could always go with the N930U when it comes out.
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Or flash the U firmware on the VZW when it's released like many did on the S7E.
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TBH I always consider returning anything. Then the 14 days comes and goes...
Look, it's only been a week and there's already root.
Now that the Note 7 is here I'm finding it has the features I like in the Note 5 with the features of the S7E minus its shortcomings. (especially the over sensitive screen and edge panels!). I do wish they stuck with the 16MP sensor. HOWEVER, the camera software on the Note 7, particularly in professional mode, is superior to any Samsung device prior. Being able to adjust shutter speed while shooting video rocks!
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I agree. This phone improves upon the S7E. Like you, I always buy with the intention of returning but the Note is a keeper and will be my daily driver. I'll attempt root tomorrow and see how it goes. I like the fact we can always Odin back to stock and maybe I'll try the TMO firmware since I have a TMO sim.
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Actually returned mine day 7. May buy another, but right now I'm sticking with my note 4

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Actually returned mine day 7. May buy another, but right now I'm sticking with my note 4
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What were your reasons for returning?
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Never.. I love this thing.. I really didn't think I would.. But even with them messing with things(i consider them like 5 year old kids that can't leave anything alone), I still like the device. And at this point, I blame Samsung.. They either don't care(which it honestly seems to me to be the case), or simply have no guts..
Either way, there are ways around most of the carrier foolishness.. And it honestly makes me laugh. This is by far the fastest root to have been achieved on a note that I can remember, and I've had all but the 5. The moor they try and lock things down, the better our developers get.. And hire all they want, as it shows, there are plenty in the waking that each generation, are better and more determined than the last.. So I say, to Verizon, who really cares about your bloat and messing.. It will be worked around anyhow..
But no, I wouldn't trade this thing for the world
from note 7

I'm debating on it because I for some reason dont get any better battery life than I do with my 6P. I did a hard reset last night and downloaded the apps manually that I use in a day and gonna try that out today and see how it works. If its still garbage it more than likely will go back

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1. The software settings options Verizon had received. I thought it was funny when one of the threads mentioned the removal of ram and battery options. Some people were pissed cause it was gone and the other side was largely berating them because "programmers were better know and knew what was best to optimize the phone."
I feel that flies in the face of what so many android users want and the xda forum stands for. If I buy a phone, it's my phone, to do with as I damn well please, for better or worse.
2. My job puts my phone in some very tough and tumble situations. Quite frankly, I don't feel there's a case/screen protector combo that will keep it safe. I've previously sworn by iblaison cases, and I'm willing to bet they have survived more abuse than many of you put your phones through.
When they get the case/screen/body protector thing figured out, maybe I'll be back.

Guys... in light of the recall today AND the other issues that I've talked about.. I have returned by Galaxy Note 7. It was fun while it lasted, but the last thing I want is the phone exploding or catching fire (small chance.. but still good enough for samsung to issue a recall and stop the sales).
I returned it back to Costco and got the Moto Z Droid instead. So long guys..